Thursday, October 11, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anjuli (Miranda)
Elias arrives at 10:44 AM. (Arrival time is 27 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

ANJULI: Good afternoon! (Elias chuckles) It's been a very interesting week!

ELIAS: Ah! Do tell!

ANJULI: (Chuckling) Yes! I just told Michael how my family reacted when I ... you know, it is so interesting once you know about the family and alignment and all these things. It is altering the reality, because you have a different perception...

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: ...about the people around you?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And this was really interesting, the reaction of my mother. I just tried to tell her in her terms about the phone session. I told her that she is a healer-soul, and she was radiating with happiness! It was the same feeling I had in the first session, you know, the feeling that you understand me, how I am.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And I saw it in her eyes that she felt the same. Suddenly she felt understood, also about her Ilda alignment and then the other things about my father, and she loved it so much! (Elias laughs) That was great! And I talked with my Vold-sister. That was interesting too!

ELIAS: Ah!

ANJULI: She first said something about the Bible and about dead guys; she tried to warn me a little bit. Then before I could tell her that Christ is a dead guy too, she gave in immediately! (Anjuli and Elias laugh) I was very amused. It was great!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! And you are incorporating much playfulness in all of your movements presently!

ANJULI: Ja! (Elias laughs)

This week was even more filled with insights and changes than the last week. For example, the first session was kind of ... well, of course, it was the first one, and the questions I asked were more about experiences where I felt somehow what they mean, and it was more the desire to hear what you say, like to get them translated into this whole ... into how you ... well, into this everything about you.

ELIAS: And an offering to yourself of clearer understanding.

ANJULI: Yes, yes, yes! And in the second session, I wanted this to be a bit ... I mean, I knew for my inner that I wanted to challenge myself a little bit, not this kind of snuggle-session, more a discovering all aspects or other aspects. You know what I mean?

ELIAS: Yes, and allowing yourself to trust your impressions.

ANJULI: Yes! I still have to work on that! (Both laugh)

Last time I didn't ask for both of my brothers-in-law, because I thought I wanted to talk with the husband of my elder sister first about this. Today I had a phone talk with him, and I presented you and what you say in three minutes to him (laughing), and then I told him a little bit what I felt maybe could be his family and alignment without explaining what the families and alignment are, just for very short. Then he said that he wants me to ask also about him, because so far I have just asked for my sisters.

This time I wanted to discover how to feel into the difference of alignment and family, and so I tried to feel into his present focus and a little bit I tried to feel into his other focuses too, because I still can't feel just into the essence and then feel that. It could be possible that I feel into any essence and then feel the family?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Well, so we thought that his alignment is Tumold, and then about his family. I had a few impressions and I just did not know into what it fits, and then he said, "Ask him about adventures and riding on horses and things like that." Then I thought maybe Ilda, the family. He said he is maybe a warrior-soul, but I do not know what warrior-souls are. We came up with that his family is Ilda and that his alignment could be Tumold. But I also have a few impressions that it maybe was not the only focus in which he was a healer, so I am not sure.

ELIAS: I may express to you, the alignment is Ilda and the family belonging to is Zuli.

ANJULI: Oh! Aha! Then it comes from his Zuli family, these impressions about focuses with kind of strong bodies or adventures or a sailor or something like that?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Then he is the same family as my father. And my father, you said he is Zuli, and I was so surprised that he is Zuli. Now I discovered, when I read again what Zulis are, this thing with form, and my father has this very strongly. He always told us look at that, and this form and this form, a very specific relationship with form. So that is about Zuli, too?

ELIAS: Yes, correct, and appreciation of aesthetic beauty.

ANJULI: Ah, yes! Okay, now I understand why he is Zuli. Ja! What is the essence name of the husband of my elder sister?

ELIAS: Essence name, Xiti, X-I-T-I (ZEE tee).

ANJULI: Interesting! And is he emotional?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Aha, we thought that. He thought that, too. The husband of my younger sister, he too is a medical doctor in this focus, so I too thought about a Tumold alignment. Well, actually I had thought of him to be Zuli/Tumold.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And his essence name? (Pause)

ELIAS: Tamzarr, T-A-M-Z-A-R-R (TOM zarr).

ANJULI: And he too is emotional?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: All emotional except this sister. Then the orientation of my parents and my sisters, they are all common?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And then the husband of my younger sister too is common?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And the husband of my elder sister ... I wasn't sure if he is common too or if he is soft, and if he is common if this is because of something else - his feelings, his experiences and his interest into the inner.

ELIAS: Intermediate.

ANJULI: Oh. I thought that intermediate ... that is interesting! What does this mean for him? The objective is not important for him?

ELIAS: No, this is not the identification of an individual incorporating the orientation of intermediate.

As I have stated, individuals that incorporate this orientation of intermediate do express attention outwardly concerning objective imagery, but the manner in which they process information, so to speak, and the manner in which they perceive their reality is not necessarily focused objectively in the "how" of their creations.

These individuals express inwardly in relation to how they create their reality. For example, an individual incorporating the orientation of intermediate may be addressing to a particular subject matter or issue, so to speak, and within their movement objectively they may be creating what you may express as an accomplishment in moving in what you term to be a successful manner in addressing to a particular subject matter or issue that they may be incorporating in a particular time framework.

Now; in this, they may recognize that they have successfully executed a particular movement; but if you are inquiring of them how they have created that movement, they may quite likely objectively express to you that they do not know. They recognize their movement but objectively their attention is not concentrated upon the "how" of their movement. Their attention is quite directed concerning the "what" of their movement but not necessarily held upon the "how" of the doing. Are you understanding?

ANJULI: Yes, I think I am understanding. It is interesting. I will think about that again and also in relation to how he is. That's interesting.

ELIAS: At times this particular movement that they express becomes frustrating or even concerning to them, for within the mass expressions of individuals, individuals that incorporate the orientations of common and also of soft do focus their attention objectively in discovering the "how" concerning their reality.

Now; as individuals that incorporate the orientation of intermediate view that expression in other individuals and recognize that this is a mass direction or focus of attention, so to speak, at times they view themselves and inwardly within self they express that they should be identifying and recognizing the "how" of their movement.

ANJULI: Aha! Oh, it's very interesting. I think when I give him the tape later he will gain lots of insights, because he is in a kind of change and a little bit sometimes depressed or does not understand some things. It is very interesting!

ELIAS: Correct. Yes, and in this the individual many times discounts themselves for they are expressing an expectation in a "should" concerning the manner in which they perceive their reality. In actuality, the manner in which they direct their attention is quite efficient within themselves, but they attempt to fit themselves into a direction of movement that is associated with the expressions of the other orientations, in which their perception does not fit.

ANJULI: Yes. Ah, it's interesting!

ELIAS: Once allowing themselves the freedom to accept themselves and their individual perception through their individual orientation, they may allow themselves to relax and not push or force their energy to be attempting to identify certain aspects of their reality that matter not.

ANJULI: That is very interesting. Thank you!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

ANJULI: So far I did not ask you if I am a designated final focus because what you say in your sessions fits so much. But I thought it's now time for telling you that I think this is what I am.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: Does it mean that I take all of my physical focuses back, or is it just referring to this physical dimension? No - all of them?

ELIAS: It is in association with THIS physical dimension.

ANJULI: And the other ones, what is going to happen with them?

ELIAS: This designation of final focus is merely a designation of position of an action which is expressed in relation to this one particular physical dimension: your choice as essence to be participating in focusing attentions in this physical dimension and your choice to be disengaging your attentions in this physical dimension, and this is not necessarily what you would term to be affecting of other attentions expressed in other dimensions. For you are all of those attentions also, but the affectingness is of these attentions within this physical dimension.

ANJULI: And with this physical dimension you mean the focuses on Earth or what is for you this physical dimension?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

ANJULI: Oh, then I just have to take a few with me! (Both are laughing) So that was that.

Then we come to this dispersed thing, because we discovered something. In the last session I asked for Enapoy something and I asked for Ahmed, and later we talked on email about that because they discovered that they both belong to the same family and the same alignment; everything is the same. We had some fun with that, that I happened to ask for both of them. Then we talked about her experiences of being dispersed and my experiences in a similar way, like when I connect with others sometimes feeling as if I look through them, an easiness in unity or something like that. Ahmed, he has in his own way too the same experiences. We talked about that and about the last session, and I felt into ... because I cannot say that this is a reaction, but I felt a something that is difficult to explain. But I ended up that probably I am dispersed, too.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: And so this is the way how I presented that to myself, just by ... that suddenly Enapoy asked me if I could ask you, and then when I asked you about Ahmed and I said he is probably common and this is something else, then there was a kind of something which I felt in you. This was because he is dispersed, too?

ELIAS: No.

ANJULI: He is not? So it is something else with him?

ELIAS: Incorporating a similar expression but in a different manner. For you incorporate this allowance of yourself to be moving through the energy of other individuals, recognizing the difference of expression of your energy and their energy, and therefore allowing yourself an objective knowing or recognition that you are actually moving your energy through another individual's energy and offering yourself information.

This individual allows a similar type of action but is incorporating that action through engaging the empathic sense.

ANJULI: Yes, Enapoy thought that it could probably be like that. Now that is interesting, because it is a different thing and yet it is the same. This is with many things, when we talk with each other. We do things in a different way and yet we arrive in the same oneness-experiences.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Ah, interesting. (Both chuckle) It is interesting! This was this dispersed thing: does an essence decide at a certain point to want to be dispersed? I mean, there is no time but ... you know what I mean?

ELIAS: The essence chooses this quality, in a manner of speaking, in the moment of fragmentation.

ANJULI: So I fragmented and then...?

ELIAS: No. In the moment that you, for example, choose to be an individual essence and are fragmented of another essence or essences, in that moment in a manner of speaking, you choose to incorporate the quality of being dispersed or not.

ANJULI: So it is like as soon as I was me in this kind of me-ness, started to be this kind of essence...

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Like as if I am born as this kind of essence?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Oh, yes, interesting. I will think about that! (Both laugh)

Because you said that my father is in transition, I read about what you say about transition. Am I in transition? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Did this start quite long ago when I had my out-of-body experience?

ELIAS: No.

ANJULI: No? Then it was later?

ELIAS: Yes. (Pause) In actuality, you have incorporated this action in what you may term to be relatively recent time framework.

ANJULI: Recent, you mean probably a few months ago?

ELIAS: No, within a time framework of one year.

ANJULI: Then this was a few months before I first discovered your material.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Okay, that is interesting too.

I also read about what you said regarding essence names, that they are changing sometimes?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.

ANJULI: I mean, it is not something fixed?

ELIAS: Correct. It is not static.

ANJULI: Like at the beginning you explained your essence name is Rastin or Raz, and then it was Elias?

ELIAS: Correct.

ANJULI: This is the same, the tone is changing sometimes?

ELIAS: Yes.

Now; this also is the choice of the essence, and there are many actions that may be affecting of the tone of the essence. You may be incorporating mergences with many other essences and choosing to be continuing in that action of mergence, which alters the tone of the essence, or you may be choosing different actions within consciousness which may also alter the tone of the essence.

ANJULI: So, is then my essence name still Miranda?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: I did not merge or change or anything like this?

ELIAS: Not in relation to tone, no.

ANJULI: As essence?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, essences are continuously merging with other essences for there is no separation; but there are certain movements in mergence with other essences that may be altering of the tone of an essence. This is also dependent upon the choices of a particular essence and what they choose to incorporate as qualities, and the expression of the individual personality identity of the essence. (Pause)

ANJULI: Regarding tone and words or whatever, in the first session you said that it was an aspect of you which I felt or feel, that I called Inmi.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Why did I choose this specific word or name? Because I tried to feel ... it changed a little bit. There were other names for it, and then it felt very easy for me when I am calling you or your aspect like that. It is an easy connection, or it feels fitting or something.

ELIAS: I am understanding. This is your expression of allowance to be familiarizing yourself with my energy expression, and in that, offering yourself a familiarity with recognizing other energy expressions, not merely that of my essence. You are practicing, in a manner of speaking.

The reason that you choose to be incorporating this naming, so to speak, or your manner of identification of this energy expression, is in recognition of the lack of separation, knowing that you are incorporating another energy, a different energy from your own energy, but also recognizing the lack of separation.

ANJULI: Yes, that's true, because it sometimes ... they got kind of mixed, or it also works for having a clearer connection between essence and focus, my essence?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Sometimes I had the feeling ... like recently, I read a little bit what I had written because I wanted to know how I feel after connecting with you and how I feel about my writings about Inmi and all this kind of things, how I feel about that. And I must say, I read just a little bit and I was quite surprised.

ELIAS: And what have you offered yourself in information concerning this action?

ANJULI: I think I know how ... I can feel into you when you connect with me, or how you are, or some ... as if you are me, too, but different. This is difficult to express.

ELIAS: Correct; you are correct, and this offers you information in relation to yourself, also.

ANJULI: Yes, exactly, that is what I thought, too. I thought that probably I am offering myself a lot of information about myself, and it was always the feeling anyway when I connect with ... I am not usually using this Inmi for the connection because I do not need it anymore, but it is always the feeling ... like when I think all the time of you, which I do automatically, it is not like a thinking of a you-ness. It is always feeling much more me than ever before.

ELIAS: Quite; I am understanding. And this is the point, my friend, to allow yourself objectively to become much more intimately familiar with yourself, therefore offering yourself much more of a freedom of movement.

ANJULI: So I discovered something about how he, how you, how the one I called Inmi is relating or acting with the relationship to this character I called Runi, and I think it is kind of an aspect of myself or something that I identify myself with, or my energies are quite like that?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And their interaction, that is how I present to myself how you are with me and how I am?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: That's beautiful!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And you allow yourself to recognize the ease of the flow of energies together.

ANJULI: Yes. Then in the first session you mentioned lots of things about me, how I am, and I had the feeling that I am for the first time meeting somebody who fully understands me, which is because I start to understand me. That's why this happened.

ELIAS: Yes, you are quite correct.

ANJULI: (Laughing) And there was a tremendous joy about that because that's just a great feeling, and there is a specific insight into how I like to play or explore or ... I don't know if essences have an intent or if the intent is just about focuses, or how I should say, I mean ... yes, you know what I mean.

ELIAS: (Laughs) It is quite simply, my friend, the discovery of you. Which in an expression of consciousness and recognizing that all is consciousness, if you are choosing to create an identification of what may be termed the intent of consciousness, this is a continuous discovery of itself, the vastness of itself; and in that continuous discovery there is a continuous expansion, in a manner of speaking.

What you are recognizing and translating in your emotional communication of happiness is the validation to yourself of your recognition of the gloriousness of freedom and that you actually do incorporate this.

ANJULI: Then I probably may discover many things in my writings about this interaction?

ELIAS: Yes, for you are communicating to yourself. (Pause)

ANJULI: I thought I am just inventing it, and then I thought, but it is just so beautiful. If I just invented it then I can also create it, and now it is suddenly true. (Elias laughs) How did this suddenly come true?

ELIAS: It is not necessarily, my friend, in your terms, that it has suddenly come true. It has always been. You have merely forgotten, and now you are, in a manner of speaking in your movement into the remembrance, you are allowing yourself a new recognition of what you are and therefore also what you incorporate in ability.

This term of "ability" may be viewed as immense, for it incorporates all that you express in potentiality, and this is infinite. (Pause)

ANJULI: So, in my writing she sometimes sees something in him, and I even don't know exactly what she sees. I just can feel it; she also just feels it. There is a certain something.

ELIAS: And what is your impression of this something? Ha ha!

ANJULI: Well, this is you ... this is some... (Sighs)

ELIAS: This is the familiarity, my friend, the recognition of it, which is also, in your terms, immense for it moves beyond the expression of familiarity of merely two essences but in the expression of familiarity of all essences and all of consciousness.

ANJULI: Yes. I guess I also offer myself information about how you are interacting with the other essences you are active with, this certain kind of how you do that?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes. And this also may be recognized, in a manner of speaking, more clearly through the engagement of your inner sense of conceptualization.

ANJULI: And then what is this ... there is a kind of pattern thing which I try to express in my writings. For example, let's say there are essences which form certain groups and other essences also in some groups, and then there are kind of four essence groups, and then they are, through their focuses, interacting in various, various ways with each other. These are all patterns and within these patterns some kind of new patterns are forming, and also like as if the essences are changing from ... they are all connected, but from one group to another and new patterns. And this is all about some kind of energy and game?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

Now; what you are offering to yourself is information concerning the movement of essences in relation to simultaneous time.

ANJULI: Well, that's nice that we do that! I love that!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! It is, in actuality, quite playful!

ANJULI: Right now I often try to feel how it is to be you. That's interesting! (Elias chuckles) So for example, when you visited me, how was that ... you projected some energy to my focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: How did that feel? I try to imagine how that is.

ELIAS: The translation is different, for you are translating into what is known in association with your physical dimension.

ANJULI: Yes.

ELIAS: Therefore you are associating the projection of energy in relation to feeling; which in association with some areas of consciousness, feeling is not necessarily expressed.

ANJULI: Yes, I felt that. So what is then this something? How would you call that?

ELIAS: It is merely being, and the knowing of being.

ANJULI: So, then what did you do? You did not...?

ELIAS: Now; let me express to you, in projecting energy through layers of consciousness into particular physical dimensions, the energy is translated in what you may term to be accordance with the design of your physical dimension. Therefore in that connection, so to speak, or contact, in your terms, there is a translation of that energy in which it does incorporate that same expression, the feelings. It merely is not necessarily translated in the same manner outside of your physical dimension. But it matters not, for the action is the same.

ANJULI: Yes. So then you can experience every possible dimension, the way things are in that dimension, by doing it like you did when you visited me, just it does not matter where you would have your attention, or what?

ELIAS: Yes, you do and you do not. It is dependant upon the projection and direction of attention. The experience is incorporated in relation to the area of consciousness in which the energy is projected to in relation to the physical dimension; but in the experience of the attention outside of the physical dimension, it is expressed differently.

ANJULI: So then, this what you are doing, I guess this is what we would term to be great fun?

ELIAS: Yes! (Chuckles)

ANJULI: And freedom to do whatever is interesting for you?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And experiencing in all possible ways?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Then I want to do that too!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! Very well, my friend, and you may!

ANJULI: I think the one hour is ... ja, I will think about that. We talked about many, many, many, very, very interesting things! (Elias laughs) And you know, this time I had decided that I really dare to talk about what I feel in my inner desire to talk about a lot.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Very well, my friend, and you may continue to do so!

ANJULI: So then, this has, anyway, nothing to do with the phone? I can do it all the time?

ELIAS: Yes, if you are so choosing and if you are allowing an expression of trust.

ANJULI: Ah, yes, okay! (Elias laughs) Thank you!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. I shall continue to be interactive with you, and I shall continue to encourage your playfulness.

ANJULI: Thank you!

ELIAS: I express to you as always tremendous affection and anticipate our next meeting. To you this evening, my dear friend, au revoir.

ANJULI: Au revoir!

Elias departs at 11:44 AM.

(1) Anjuli's note: the reason for Ahmed's unity-experiences.

©2003 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved

---

Copyright 2001 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved.