Tuesday, September 25, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Frank (Ulra)
Elias arrives at 10:44 AM. (Arrival time is 25 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

FRANK: Good morning! Nice to talk to you again.

ELIAS: And you also. How shall we proceed with the adventure?

FRANK: Well, I'd like to start by asking you about some dreams that I've had since we last talked.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: This happened, oh, the first of the month. I had a dream ... well, let me back up and give some background information. I think when we last talked I may have mentioned this, but earlier in August I closed a big deal that should be fairly profitable for me. I had this dream in early September where I dreamt that I was still working at my former employer's company, and I realized, in this dream at least, that I was going to have to give the money that I expected to make on this new business deal to my former employer. This made me disappointed, and that was about all I can remember from that dream. So my question is, what does that mean?

ELIAS: Offer your impression first.

FRANK: The only thing that I can think of is that in actual objective reality, at least for a period of time, some of the income that I made from this deal I will have to give to other people to repay advances that they made in me. I wish I didn't have to do that, but I feel that I do and I certainly will, and I think maybe it has some connection with that.

ELIAS: Partially, but also in actuality you have offered this dream imagery to yourself in validation of your accomplishment. For this offers you the identification of what you had been creating previously in allowing yourself to be directed by other individuals, and the recognition of your accomplishment now that you are allowing yourself to be directing of yourself, and therefore you, in a manner of speaking, reap the benefits of your choices rather than offering that creation to other individuals.

FRANK: Yes, I can see that. Why didn't I think of that? Because it's interesting, had I stayed where I was in terms of my employment - as you may recall, we discussed this way back then - that's probably exactly the way I was feeling.

ELIAS: Quite.

FRANK: Okay, interesting. I think the answer to this is probably no, but I'll ask this question anyway. Was that possibly a view of a different probability?

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: Boy, I can see that now. Interesting; well, that's good.

Let me ask you about the next one then. This one is somewhat more complicated. In the next dream that I had, which was a day or two later, I went to visit a business associate, and in fact the business associate was connected with this previous employer and the deal that I managed to put together earlier this summer. I went to see him in his office, but in this dream his office was an old building that was like a warehouse. In the dream he said that he was short-handed that day because his assistant wasn't in. He was working on an old truck, and he was very proud of the fact that the building had a pit where he could stand under the truck to work on it. Well, the next thing that happened was he sent me out for breakfast and to bring breakfast back. I went out and got the breakfast, but instead of bringing it back to him I went to my hotel to eat it, and my wife and children were there in the hotel. So I sat there and I took a lot of time to eat the breakfast and felt sort of bad or guilty that I had left my business associate for such a long time and hadn't gone right back to him.

ELIAS: Offer your impression.

FRANK: I don't know; this one's got me stumped. I must say, I haven't spent a whole lot of time trying to figure it out either. (Elias chuckles) Yeah, I know.

ELIAS: In this dream imagery, what you present to yourself is an identification of your individual priorities and preferences and the direction in which you are moving.

This dream imagery holds significance, for it is a clear expression of your direction presently and the movement in it. For previously you have directed your attention to your employment or that which you define as your job, so to speak, and in that movement your association was to be offering or providing an expression of security, so to speak, to your family, but in a manner of speaking at the expense of interaction with family. Are you following thus far?

FRANK: I am understanding what you're saying.

ELIAS: Very well. Now; in this dream imagery you offer to yourself the identification quite clearly of the turning of your direction. You incorporate an interaction with an individual associated with job or business, but you also choose to be incorporating more of an expression of interaction with family.

Now; you also incorporate, as you have noticed, the expression of guilt temporarily, for this is your association with responsibility, and that in moving into the unfamiliar direction of incorporating more interaction and focus of attention with these individuals that incorporate family, there is a continued slight association with the "should" concerning the responsibility of family in association with job.

But this dream imagery also is an acknowledgment. It is a communication to yourself, identifying clearly that you have turned your direction, not merely that you wish to be turning your direction.

FRANK: I want to come back to this later. I have a hunch this may take quite a bit of discussion, so let me ask you about a couple of other things first in a different direction.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: After I had that dream - either I had woken up or was sort of going back to dreaming or was just sort of coming out of it - but at any rate, I was laying in bed and I either heard or sensed a little boy who had brown hair and was maybe five or six years old, and he was describing a bad experience with his mother. I think he was telling someone else that he told her "don't hurt me" or something like that. It was sort of like I heard this boy, I sensed him, and at some point in my mind I sort of saw him. I don't think this was a dream, but I'm not sure. So, because it's been awhile and even at the time I wasn't really sure, can you tell me what that was?

ELIAS: You are correct; this is not dream imagery. This is a projection of consciousness.

Be remembering that I incorporate a distinction between what you term to be an out of body experience and a projection of consciousness. That which you define as an out of body experience is what I express to be a projection of consciousness. For in actuality, the distinction of what may be termed as an out of body experience is in actuality a movement of the subjective and objective awarenesses away from the physical body consciousness, which you do not engage often. In actuality, that action is expressed quite infrequently or rarely within physical focus, but you do create projections of consciousness quite often. You merely do not necessarily offer yourselves an objective memory of this type of movement.

What you have created in that experience is a frequent spontaneous projection of consciousness, and allowed yourself an objective recall.

FRANK: Where was I projecting to, or when? Was this someone I know? Why this?

ELIAS: You have allowed yourself to be projecting your attention in what appears to be a random choice of viewing of another individual in this time framework, but in actuality it is not random. For what you have allowed yourself to be experiencing is a projection to another location within your physical time framework now and viewing another individual in an experience that they are creating presently. The reason that you have offered this to yourself, in a manner of speaking, is to be easing yourself into an allowance of viewing other focuses of yours that may be uncomfortable in association with your beliefs and experiences of this focus. Are you understanding?

FRANK: Yes, I do.

ELIAS: In allowing yourself to view another individual's experience briefly, you do not necessarily incorporate the same emotional communications that you may in connecting to your own experiences in other focuses.

FRANK: Well, that's good; it sounds great. (Both laugh) So should I expect to make more progress in the near future about viewing other focuses?

ELIAS: I shall express to you, this is your choice; but also I may express to you in most probable probabilities, yes.

FRANK: Next, I want to ask you about a dream I had - gosh, I have no idea when I had it - many, many years ago, and it was very vivid to me at the time. I sort of remembered it until now, although I remember very little of it. But at any rate, I had this dream where I believe I was an American Indian, a Native American. I don't know what the timeframe was, but I saw myself in sort of like a ... well, whatever kind of structure they would be in, and there was an American Indian woman there who was just extremely beautiful. I just remember she had the most gorgeous eyes that I ever saw. For whatever reason, this dream has stuck with me. I'm wondering why that was so significant and if that was someone I'm presently interactive with, and what else might be of note in connection with that.

ELIAS: I may express to you, this is an offering to yourself of viewing another focus of you [which is] interactive with another focus of your partner.

FRANK: Was I the girl or was my partner the girl?

ELIAS: In that focus your partner is the female.

FRANK: Can you tell me when that took place?

ELIAS: Ah! You are accomplishing so very well, my friend. Shall you not investigate?

FRANK: Okay! (Both laugh) Well, that's it for the dreams. (Elias chuckles) But I'm most delighted!

Let's see, where do we go from here? I have many, many things, other things I'd like to ask you about.

ELIAS: Very well.

FRANK: Here's a good one for you. Since we last talked, for whatever reason I've had an urge to read a number of books, fictional books, about military conflicts. Two were about a fictional Korean war. One was about a fictional war in Europe between the United States and the Soviet Union in the mid-eighties, and one was about a sort of revisionist history of the Civil War where the South won the Civil War. That makes four books since the last time we talked, which is a lot of books for me to read in a month. I'm just curious to know what has prodded me in this direction, to be attracted to this literature. Three of these books I've read previously, by the way.

ELIAS: I shall express to you, you are offering yourself another avenue of communication, and in this you are allowing yourself to respond to the communication offered through impulses, which offers you information concerning some of the focuses which you incorporate as military individuals and the probable realities that have been incorporated by you in association with those focuses. Therefore, your direction of exploration and offering of information to yourself is not necessarily concerning the other focuses that you incorporate themselves, but [is] offering you the opportunity to move your attention in a direction of exploring some other probable realities that, in your terms, have sprung from the choices of experiences in those other focuses, that you may also allow yourself to explore some probable realities that you have created in relation to this focus and the choices of experiences that you have chosen in this focus.

You also couple that direction with dream imagery, as you are aware, in allowing yourself to recognize that you have created a probable reality in association with the choice of direction that you incorporated as you chose to be creating your own expression in business.

FRANK: Could you repeat that last part one more time?

ELIAS: As you are aware, you have offered yourself the recognition through dream imagery that you have created a probable reality in association with your choice to be discontinuing your previous employment and your choice to be creating your own business presently. In that choice, you created a probable reality in which a probable you continues in the former business.

FRANK: Oh boy. So I could sort of view what happened with that guy?

ELIAS: If you are choosing, yes.

FRANK: That would be fun to know. What do I do?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Allow yourself to view!

FRANK: (Laughing) Okay! Well, that's pretty interesting. Let's go on to another thing here.

ELIAS: In actuality, my friend, allow yourself in this moment to recall the first dream imagery that you offered to myself this day and your recognition.

FRANK: Well, there he is! There I am!

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckling)

FRANK: Oh wow, interesting. Of course, I knew that at the time, too.

ELIAS: Quite!

FRANK: Which I guess gets back to all the things you've been telling all of us about choices and recognizing choices.

ELIAS: And paying attention.

FRANK: Yeah, and paying attention. Boy, there it is. Because really, it's not so surprising. I mean, in fact, very predictable.

ELIAS: Quite!

FRANK: Quite an adventure.

ELIAS: This offers you a clear example of what I expressed to you, that if you are paying attention to this doing and choosing aspect of yourself, you begin recognition that your direction and what you are creating is NOT in actuality hidden from you. It is, in actuality, quite clear and obvious. It is merely a question of directing your attention...

FRANK: Right, which is so hard for us to do.

ELIAS: Quite, for it is quite unfamiliar. You have quite strongly created a definition of attention which is incorrect, associating your attention with thought, and in this you are unfamiliar with what your attention actually is and how to be directing of it and moving it in different directions.

FRANK: Would you like to talk about that a little bit?

ELIAS: As I have stated previously, it may be expressed in the most easily identified manner by allowing yourselves to notice and recognize in the moment what you are actually CHOOSING rather than what you are thinking, for these are both objective obvious actions that you all incorporate. This shall allow you the opportunity to distinguish that your attention is not your thoughts.

FRANK: Let me stop you. When you say by noticing and recognizing what I'm choosing, would that be another way of saying recognizing and noticing what's actually happening?

ELIAS: Yes! What you are actually DOING.

FRANK: What I'm experiencing.

ELIAS: Correct, rather than what you THINK you are experiencing. For there is a difference, my friend. Many times you are doing and choosing, and your thoughts shall be in alignment and translating accurately. But many times you think you are doing or choosing a particular action and in actuality what you are doing and choosing may be different.

Therefore, if you allow yourself to begin noticing precisely what you are actually doing in any particular moment, you shall also in that moment recognize the difference between thought and attention, for you shall experience an actual movement of your attention to the choice, and in that movement the thoughts shall appear to you to be recessive, in a manner of speaking. They shall move to the background, so to speak, of your picture, and the choice shall become the subject matter of your picture, in a manner of speaking. This shall become obvious to you in the moments that you allow yourself to shift your attention.

This shall offer you a clearer understanding of the distinction between attention and thought. This is not to say that your thoughts shall cease, but in a manner of speaking they may become similar to the rhythm or the background sounds within a musical piece. They continue, but they are not the prominent notes.

FRANK: Right, you're aware of it but there are other aspects that are more in your...

ELIAS: You are paying attention to the action, not the thought of the action.

FRANK: Thank you, that's something to ponder. (Elias chuckles)

Here's something else I've created. Since we last talked I redecorated my office, and I ended up painting it in sort of a very flamboyant style, let me put it that way. I'm just curious to know why I did that. Let me also say that I didn't particularly intend to have it come out that way when I started; it just sort of ended up that way.

ELIAS: And your assessment of it now?

FRANK: Until I asked you this question I really didn't ... well, I have a couple ideas. One thing that hit me as I was asking this question is that maybe this is a reflection of the way that you say I express myself in this focus, by creating flamboyant imagery, physical imagery. I think that's part of it. I also think part of it is maybe just the opening of my awareness in some way. I don't know that I can explain how that's connected, but that's just sort of a feeling that I have.

ELIAS: You are partially correct, and also this you have allowed yourself as an expression of your individual freedom.

FRANK: Yes, okay. That's part of what I meant.

ELIAS: Correct, and in this are you offering yourself the experience of pleasure and fun?

FRANK: Oh, yes! Absolutely!

ELIAS: And this is the point - your allowance of your own experience of freedom, in which you do incorporate pleasure and fun.

FRANK: You know, it is interesting how other people react to it and how I react to them. Number one, I kind of don't care too much how other people react to it. Number two, I know my brother and my wife think, "Wow, this is really weird," whereas my children think that it is really neat. (Elias chuckles)

It just seems like, as I look at the different personalities involved, the people that don't like it are the ones that are sort of constricted within their own lives, whereas the people that do like it seem more free flowing. I don't know if that's particularly profound, but that's just sort of an impression that I have.

ELIAS: Correct, and this is an interesting expression that you offer to yourself to be noticing.

FRANK: It's funny, because at the time I was doing it, I didn't think about it. After it was done I started to think there's something significant here. I guess I should know, there's always something significant behind whatever occurs physically!

ELIAS: Ha ha! In all that you do, my friend.

FRANK: I try to keep reminding of myself of that, but without discounting myself.

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: Well, let me ask you about a couple other things. I think I told you before, I'm involved in two businesses. One of them we talked about earlier in connection to the dream.

The other one seems to be moving forward steadily, and it seems like it's growing, building, and frankly I'm relatively pleased, somewhat pleased, with the way it's going. We seem to be generating more income and more money. The money that I receive comes through my partner, because he's the one that collects it and he sends it to me. Lately he's been sending me the payments - and he does send it to me on time and I do receive it - but before I receive it, he would call me up and say, "Oh, I don't know if I can make the payroll this month," and then a couple of days later he would say, "Everything is fine," and he sent it along. A couple of days ago, or maybe it was even yesterday, he said the same thing to me, and I'm pretty confident that the money will be here.

So I'm trying to analyze this, you know, what this is a metaphor for. It strikes me that we've sort of got different perceptions about the business and the world, and whereas I am personally in a spot where I'm feeling pretty good about things and pretty confident and comfortable that the money and the income will be there, he's still probably of the perception that things are not going well enough and of a perception of a lack of abundance, for a better choice of words. So is that correct, and is there more there also?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, and this also is an example to yourself that you do hold the ability to generate what you want regardless of the expressions of other individuals. This is a validation to yourself that it matters not what the perception is of another individual or what they generate or what they create. You may continue to generate and create what you want in trusting yourself and your ability, and therefore do allow yourself this trust that you shall create this expression with ease and that it is unnecessary for you to be incorporating doubt. Therefore you relax, and you allow yourself to create regardless of the expressions of other individuals.

You and I have spoken many times of this particular subject matter, and now you offer yourself clear evidence of your accomplishment in this direction. You offer yourself imagery of the perception and expression of another individual, but regardless of the expression of the other individual you create an ease and what you want anyway.

FRANK: I have two things that I want to ask you in connection with this, taking it a little further. Number one, when it first happened, the first time he laid this on me a month or so ago, I found myself sort of moving into a place of fear again, you know, "Uh-oh, what's going to happen to the money? It's going to get shut off." Then I started to think about things, and I said, "Well, something's wrong here." Things are going pretty good and my impression is things are good, so I think that financially everything will be fine and somehow he'll get over it, or whatever. When he expressed this to me just a day or two ago, I sort of had that initial fear but then pretty quickly went into no, things are going to be fine because that's my impression and I create what I'm creating for myself.

So, number two, the question I have is how long can we go on with this dichotomy, where I'm in a place where I think things are moving upward and I'm very positive, whereas he's sort of back in the old mode or fearful mode or whatever?

ELIAS: This is your expression of practice. (Frank laughs)

Now; in this, you are already noticing that in each experience you initially express the automatic familiar response, but you incorporate each time less time framework in which you continue that automatic response and you offer yourself a clearer and stronger expression of trust within yourself and a clearer recognition of your movement and your choice.

Now; as to your question of how long may you continue with this type of action, I may express to you, this is your process and this is your choice. But in this I may express to you that as you continue in this direction you are incorporating an opportunity to allow you to practice to the point in which you discontinue doubt.

FRANK: Okay, I can see that.

ELIAS: And I may also express to you, my friend, at the point that you may be discontinuing doubt the expression of the other individual may or may not alter, but your attention shall no longer be directed to the expression of the other individual. Therefore, it shall matter not.

This also is your choice. For if the expression of the other individual continues in the same manner, you have created that, and if you are creating that at the point in which you are not doubting any longer, you may be incorporating that expression merely as a reminder to yourself of your accomplishment and to not be, in a manner of speaking, slipping into the automatic response, for it is unnecessary. Or you may choose to be discontinuing the expression of the other individual all together, for it is unnecessary. But in either scenario, this is your choice of how you shall be creating the expression of the other individual, for you are creating that.

FRANK: So the doubt that I perceive coming from him is a reflection of what's inside of me to some extent.

ELIAS: Yes. But be acknowledging of yourself, for this is your offering to yourself of an avenue of practice, and it is moving quite effectively.

FRANK: It's a lot better than crashing my car into a pole!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Much less dramatic!

FRANK: Maybe could it be that I've learned it's easier to paint my room in strange colors than to get into a car crash?

ELIAS: (Laughs) And quite efficient to allow yourself the freedom, rather than attempting to eliminate certain expressions within your reality - relaxing and paying attention, rather than eliminating your fishing pole. (Both laugh)

FRANK: Let's bring something else up here. In the past I've felt, well, I guess the best word for it is a slight amount of guilt that I didn't really spend a lot of time working on and developing myself in these directions, whereas now I'm just kind of getting comfortable, kind of letting things go and relax, and kind of have faith that things are going to develop in the best way and all that. So I guess that's a step forward for me, too, huh?

ELIAS: Yes! (Chuckles) It matters not that you assess that you have not afforded yourself a particular type of movement previously, for you have been moving in the expression of your intent, regardless of what you choose to be directing your attention within. Now you choose another direction of exploration, but previous explorations have been no less of an expression of your intent.

FRANK: Okay, but let me ask you about something that's sort of right on point here. The last time we spoke, I expressed an interest in developing more of an objective communication with my essence, and you suggested that I practice projecting, projections, and that this would be a way to ease my ability or to facilitate my ability to communicate better with my essence. I did try that a bit after we first talked, and then I don't know whether I just got distracted or I was living life or I'm lazy or got discouraged because I didn't feel like I had success, but I just didn't do much of it. I must say that in coming into this conversation again I felt a slight amount of guilt - pretty slight, actually - at not having done that, the homework so to speak. So if maybe you could comment on that ... but then I'm also thinking about the fact that I had this projection with the little boy.

ELIAS: You are correct.

FRANK: So are we moving in a direction where my attempt is to develop that ability, and although objectively I'm not perceiving that I'm having any movement in that direction, in actuality I am?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes. I may also express to you that in this particular expression that you have identified and your recognition of this emotional communication of guilt, what you are offering to yourself is an opportunity to examine what your association is in the moment, that creates that particular emotional communication.

I may express to you, the reason that you incorporated this slight expression of guilt is associated with your beliefs concerning your expectation of self and your association with the perception or the expectation of myself, and in both the identification of an anticipation of disappointment - your anticipation of my disappointment in your expression in a lack of accomplishment of a specific perceived directive.

FRANK: Ah, and you would never be disappointed in me, would you?

ELIAS: No. I do not incorporate an expression of disappointment in any of you.

FRANK: I can see that now. It's very interesting.

ELIAS: I recognize that it is your choice to be incorporating suggestions or not. I am not issuing directives to you. I am responding to your questions and offering you suggestions of avenues that you may be incorporating to be accomplishing what you have inquired of. Whether you choose to be incorporating those suggestions or not matters not. This is your choice.

FRANK: I recognize that, but then let me ask you something else here. Why is it that it seems very often when I talk to you about these things and we discuss them I do have movement, progress, but it's not objectively ... it's on a subjective level; it's done subjectively. In other words ... well, do you understand what I mean by that?

ELIAS: This is not entirely correct, my friend. You do move objectively, and this circles round to our conversation concerning attention.

FRANK: Well, I'm not going to let go so easily here! (Elias laughs) Let's put it this way. You suggested to me that I practice projecting, and so after our last session I practiced projecting a few times. For whatever reason it didn't seem to go anywhere and then I stopped. Now, why did I stop? I don't know - I got busy, I got lazy, I got you know distracted, whatever it was. I didn't do it anymore.

ELIAS: But you did - spontaneously.

FRANK: I guess that's the root of the question. Very often it ends up being spontaneous, as you described it, as opposed to...

ELIAS: Intentional.

FRANK: Intentional, right, exactly. That's the word.

ELIAS: But it matters not, for in this you also in this moment allow yourself the opportunity to examine your definitions, your association with practice, your association with my suggestions and your automatic expression that you are now incorporating homework. What is your association with this term?

FRANK: Yuck!

ELIAS: And that you MUST be incorporating this action, and therefore you are not allowing yourself the expression of choice. You are automatically creating an association with a directive, that you have been dictated to a "must" and therefore your choices have been eliminated.

FRANK: So I have to change my perception.

ELIAS: Quite! And I may express to you, my friend, one point! This is the point! This is what I have been expressing from the onset: not necessarily change your perception, but move your perception. This is what we have been discussing continuously in relation to this shift in consciousness in redefining your terms, your terminology, and therefore in the redefining of terms you also redefine your reality. For in the mere action of redefinition of terms, your movement alters. Your interaction with those terms alters and therefore your perception also moves and you perceive differently.

FRANK: Right, so to stay with our example here, if I redefine this activity not as homework but as play...

ELIAS: Correct.

FRANK: ...then everything is going to change.

ELIAS: Correct, for your perception moves in a quite different manner.

FRANK: Well, as you know, this whole perception thing is tough for me and I think for a lot of other people, too.

ELIAS: Yes, I am aware. Perception and attention are two expressions which appear to you to be quite vague and illusive and undefined, and you are quite familiar with absolute definitions of expressions within your reality. You are blurring your reality in this movement of the shift to not be incorporating the absoluteness of all of your reality any longer, which opens tremendous doors of freedom.

FRANK: Our time is short here, so I'd like to ask you about two things. Maybe you can give me quick answers or some direction.

Number one, in the process of redecorating my office, my desk basically fell apart. It's still somewhat functional, but basically it's half way destroyed.

And number two, we had a flood in the basement of our house and lost a lot of carpeting, and I'm just curious to try to see what that imagery is all about.

ELIAS: What is your impression concerning the desk?

FRANK: My impression of the desk is that it is a metaphor for the fact that a lot of my old belief structures are ... perceptions are falling apart and being replaced by new ones.

ELIAS: Now couple that with the imagery of the basement, and express to myself your impression of how that fits with the imagery of the desk.

FRANK: That is a tough question. Well, let me talk about the imagery of something ... I won't be directly responsive, but maybe this will move in the right direction. An interesting by-product of the imagery of the basement is that it actually ended up in a financial windfall, a gain. I received insurance money that was, in my opinion, far in excess of what the loss was, and somehow I feel like that's connected with my beliefs and perceptions regarding money and abundance and things like that. Am I on the right track here?

ELIAS: Partially. These two expressions of imagery are quite connected. In this, you have offered yourself the imagery of the desk to allow yourself a recognition of the familiar and the movement into new expressions, and the imagery with the basement is quite creative in offering yourself an expression of flood which ushers in the new freedoms.

FRANK: Oh, that's like the dream that I had when I was in the car that went into the water!

ELIAS: Yes.

FRANK: It did give me new freedom. Even though it caused me some problems, like I say, I got this financial windfall out of it that will enable us to repair the damage and have extra money.

ELIAS: Correct. This is the flooding in of the new and the allowance of the ushering in of the unexpected, the unfamiliar, but in that unexpected unfamiliar the presentment of new freedom.

FRANK: I never would have thought of that!

One last thing: lately I've been trying to remember my dreams, largely because they present so much food for discussion between you and I, and I'm not for some reason. I would just like to know if you can tell me why I'm not having an awareness of my dreams after I wake up, and if you have any suggestions on how I can change that situation?

ELIAS: You are creating this situation temporarily in response to yourself in redirecting yourself into the objective expression, and in relation to your direction presently in attempting to be paying attention objectively to your attention and to your choosing. Therefore, you have temporarily interrupted your focus of attention upon dream imagery to concentrate your attention in the objective expressions of choice, which is what we have been discussing this morning.

FRANK: All right, that makes a lot of sense. (Pause)

Well, I guess that's it. We're a little bit past our time here. As always, I thank you. It's been tremendously enlightening.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. I shall be anticipating our next adventure.

FRANK: Yes. (Elias laughs) Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. To you as always, my friend, in affection and encouragement, au revoir.

FRANK: Goodbye.

Elias departs at 11:54 AM.

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