Sunday, July 29, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Gillian (Ari)
Elias arrives at 9:46 AM. (Arrival time is 29 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

GILLIAN: Good afternoon, Elias, long time no speak!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And we engage now!

GILLIAN: Yes, we do! (Elias chuckles) I have so many questions for you!

ELIAS: Very well, you may proceed.

GILLIAN: I’m going to ask you some quick questions for a friend of mine first...

ELIAS: Very well!

GILLIAN: ...and get that out of the way, and she doesn’t get left out of it.

ELIAS: Very well.

GILLIAN: The friend’s name is Renate, and she’s offering that she’s aligned with Sumafi, intent Gramada. (Pause)

ELIAS: Sumafi, but the alignment is not Gramada.

GILLIAN: Okay. Can you offer?

ELIAS: The alignment, Sumari.

GILLIAN: Sumari, okay; thanks, Elias.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

GILLIAN: In terms of essence names, her offering is Neptet. (Pause)

ELIAS: This is the impression?

GILLIAN: Is that correct?

ELIAS: This is an identification of a focus naming.

GILLIAN: Can you give me her essence name then, please? (Pause)

ELIAS: Chaumbre (SHAHM bra).

GILLIAN: Could you spell it, please?

ELIAS: C-H-A-U-M-B-R-E.

GILLIAN: Is the first letter P?

ELIAS: B-R-E.

GILLIAN: Okay, Phaumbre?

ELIAS: Correct.

GILLIAN: And her husband’s essence name, please? She offered Ona, O-N-A (OH nah).

ELIAS: Ah! You may be acknowledging; this is correct.

GILLIAN: Oh, goodie! One point for her! She would like to know how many physical focuses she has. She has offered 79. (Pause)

ELIAS: You may express to this individual that I am acknowledging in the interpretation of impression, but alter this total numbering of focuses to 179.

GILLIAN: Oh! Okay, thank you!

ELIAS: You are welcome.

GILLIAN: For myself then, I’m going to go back to something we talked about last time, which was my alcohol and my beautiful mountains.

ELIAS: Very well.

GILLIAN: I’ve been visualizing this mountain, and it’s getting easier now. I was reluctant before because I don’t feel very comfortable with visualization. But I started playing with it, and I see my patterns are changing a bit. Can you tell me what’s happening?

ELIAS: Offer to myself your impression.

GILLIAN: I’m learning to trust myself more, but I also feel that there is a bit of anticipation involved, and so it becomes a little elusive.

ELIAS: I am understanding. In this, I acknowledge your movement that you are allowing yourself to be expressing more of a trust within self, but you also at times move your attention outside of the now. As you project your attention into future expectations, you create this anticipation. In this, in the moments that you are projecting your attention futurely, you are also projecting your attention outside of yourself, so to speak.

Now; as you allow yourself to practice and move your attention to the now and allow yourself to pull your attention to yourself in the now, this expression of anticipation shall dissipate.

GILLIAN: Okay. (Pause) I think I have lost you, Elias.

ELIAS: We continue to be in conversation.

GILLIAN: Also, Elias, in the last session you said that I had not objectively accepted some of the experiences or my choice of experiences. Could you point me in the direction of what I need to look at?

ELIAS: What I am offering to you, my friend, is information that you may allow yourself to become more familiar with yourself and therefore widen your awareness in a manner that allows you to view what you are creating in the now and therefore also what you are experiencing within self.

For this holds significance, my friend. As you allow yourself to be genuinely paying attention to self in the moment, you also offer yourself information with regard to what you are actually creating in that moment; and as you are aware of this movement, you also may become more clearly aware of your experiences.

Experience is not necessarily generated through what you objectively create outside of yourself. You are experiencing movement and choices regardless of what you generate outwardly in objective imagery. This is significant, for I have expressed many times that the objective imagery is abstract and matters not. It is a reflection of what you are creating inwardly in the moment.

Now; as I express to you or to any other individual that you may not be noticing or paying attention to the experiences that you are creating, what I am offering to you is information that you may allow yourself to be noticing the interconnectedness of your objective imagery and what you are creating inwardly. For many times individuals may be briefly noticing their objective imagery, but not necessarily paying attention to that objective imagery and how it is connected to the choices that they are creating in the moment. Are you understanding thus far?

GILLIAN: Yes, I am Elias. In fact I was just thinking about imagery. I created an illness two weeks back, and I realized I was going all around my block just to cross the street! That’s what my impression of my illness was.

ELIAS: Correct. Now; in allowing yourself to pay attention to self inwardly and recognize within yourself what you are choosing within the moment, and allowing yourself to recognize the direction of your movement in a particular moment or even a series of moments, so to speak, you may also offer yourself clearer information with regard to what you outwardly project in the form of objective imagery. For...

GILLIAN: There was some other imagery that I projected, but I’m not sure what I got from that. My wallet was stolen, and last night I fell down and got a bump on my head, and it hurt so!

ELIAS: Very well. In these examples, let us together examine movement, choice, and creation.

Now; you express that you have created an object of your possession that is stolen. In this, as you allow yourself to move your attention from outside of yourself to inside of yourself, you may allow yourself information concerning what you are actually creating within the moment.

In being aware of what you are actually creating and choosing within the moment, you may not necessarily create objective imagery to reflect what you are creating.

Now; in examining what you are presenting to yourself - which in actuality is expressed in both of these scenarios, but the imagery outwardly is different - this is an efficient coupling of imagery presently to illustrate to yourself what I am expressing to you, that the objective imagery is changeable, it is abstract, and in actuality the objective imagery matters not. What holds significance is your direction and the choices that you are engaging or creating within the moment, which offers you information concerning your direction and what you may be addressing to within a particular moment.

Now; the direction that you have chosen is to be examining and addressing to within self how you create automatic responses in relation to being a victim - not a victim of other individuals, but how you within self associate yourself at times with this role of being a victim.

Now; this in actuality is quite efficient that you present this particular imagery in discussion this day, for it also relates to your previous question in relation to your curiosity in how you may not necessarily be paying attention to experiences. This provides you also with an example of creating experiences but not necessarily paying attention to what it is that you are creating, what you are choosing, and identifying the direction of your movement.

Now; in this, as you turn your attention to self and allow yourself to move beyond the action of thought analyzation, and move your attention in the direction of choices and the aspect of yourself that is creating choice, you may allow yourself to more clearly view your direction and the movement of steering yourself.

Now; as you allow yourself to pay attention to what you are choosing, you may not necessarily create a reflection outwardly in objective imagery in relation to the movement that you are creating or what you are addressing to for it may not be necessary, for you are already offering yourself information and recognition of your movement.

(Deliberately, punctuating his words by tapping on the armrests of the chair) But in not paying attention to what you are choosing, I may express to you, as I have many times previously in this forum, you shall create expressions that shall gain your attention in one manner or another. You SHALL offer yourself information concerning your movement. There is no aspect of your reality that is hidden from you. But if you are not paying attention to self and [to] what you are creating inwardly, you shall create it objectively outwardly to reflect what you are creating inwardly, therefore efficiently offering yourself another means of communication to yourself.

The confusing aspect, many times for many individuals, with this type of outward expression is that the objective imagery literally is quite abstract and is quite changeable. Therefore, you may present to yourself many different scenarios, many different expressions of objective imagery that all are related to the same movement, the same subject matter, inwardly. Are you understanding?

GILLIAN: Yes, Elias. I’m understanding. I’m also understanding that what you are saying to me at this time is that I’m creating objective imagery to tell myself to pay attention.

ELIAS: Quite, but you are also creating specific types of objective imagery, different expressions of objective imagery to gain your attention in relation to a particular subject matter.

In this, as you continue to not recognize your direction and your choice in relation to a particular subject matter that you are exploring or addressing to, you also shall continue quite creatively to express different objective forms of imagery that shall relate to the same subject matter.

GILLIAN: Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

GILLIAN: The other question I want to ask about is last time when I spoke to you about Pete, you were going to add some more information about us and our connectedness, and then I cut you off with another question. Could you give me some more information as to my connection with Pete?

ELIAS: And have you offered yourself impressions in this interim time framework?

GILLIAN: Not that I’m very aware of, in the sense that ... let’s put it this way, I still have a bond with him but I have also beliefs regarding expectations that tie in with our physical marriage certificate, or the word "marriage." I have given myself an impression that I have these beliefs and therefore I need to let go in terms of marriage altogether, and then continue because then we can continue without any conflicts.

ELIAS: Very well. Be recalling that I have also offered you information that you provide yourself with a mirror action with this individual, and in this, you have chosen to be interactive with this individual and at times not interactive with this individual, also in relation to the same subject matter.

In this relationship that you have created with this individual, you provide yourself with an avenue to view yourself, to view your own behaviors, to view your own expressions, and an opportunity to explore and examine your beliefs and your automatic responses to them, for this individual is incorporated in your direction as a type of focal point with your attention. This individual is incorporated in your attention in a manner in which you allow yourself to trigger certain responses which are in actuality your offering to yourself as an opportunity to examine the automatic responses to your beliefs.

Now; this also provides you with an example of how you create these automatic responses, but you are not quite moving your attention in the direction of genuinely noticing what you are experiencing. This is what we have been discussing and what we are speaking of again, now: the allowance of yourself to be genuinely noticing what you are triggering within yourself, and therefore offer yourself the opportunity to choose - not to eliminate the beliefs, not to change the beliefs, but to merely notice the influence of the beliefs that you hold and recognize that you are not subject to them. You may choose other expressions. You are not locked into the automatic responses.

The relationship that you create with this individual provides you with a tremendous opportunity to view your own triggers of automatic responses. Are you understanding?

GILLIAN: Yes, Elias. As a matter of fact, I have already started doing that, because I recognized it as well, when you were talking about him being a focal point. I realize that I had tied a lot of my acceptance for myself with that.

ELIAS: Correct.

GILLIAN: And I’ve worked with that a little bit inside myself and feel I’ve grown more trusting of myself and accepting of myself now.

ELIAS: Correct, and may I express to you the inquiry in relation to yourself, do you objectively allow yourself more of a recognition of the oftenness of moving your attention and holding your attention outside of yourself in relation to this individual?

GILLIAN: I didn’t understand that very well, Elias.

ELIAS: Very well. Do you provide yourself now with the opportunity to view how often you project your attention to the other individual and hold your attention upon the other individual, rather than allowing yourself the freedom of your own choices by turning your attention to yourself?

GILLIAN: Yes, I am offering myself a lot more now. I’m noticing my automatic responses more easily now.

ELIAS: Correct. This is significant, that you allow yourself to pay attention to this expression within you, for this is the direction that shall offer you your greatest freedom and also shall allow you to move outside of this role of victim.

GILLIAN: Oh! You’ve hit it right there. The victim bit got me the last time! (Elias laughs with Gillian) I did very much notice, because I realized with my automatic responses, I said, "Hang on, I’m playing victim here!" I worked through that, and I made some decisions, and I feel a lot freer because of that!

ELIAS: Quite. Therefore, allow yourself to be appreciating the experience of choice and your freedom, for this is an empowerment of yourself, my friend.

GILLIAN: Yes. Can we go onto some fun stuff now?

ELIAS: You may!

GILLIAN: I have some impressions I’d like to offer. I feel my intent name is Ariel. (Pause)

ELIAS: Your intent name is in actuality what may be described as a word or a phrase that offers a concise definition or description of the movement of your intent. Therefore, this particular name or tone would not necessarily be an identification of intent. Are you understanding?

GILLIAN: Yes.

ELIAS: I hold an understanding and awareness of the significance of this name or tone in relation to you within this particular focus. This word holds a significance to you, correct?

GILLIAN: Yes! It does, a lot!

ELIAS: I am understanding.

Now; you may offer yourself in playfulness the opportunity to explore what this significance is in relation to yourself presently. Partially, as you are aware, there is a relation in significance to tone.

GILLIAN: Yes, because you did tell me this was an essence that I was merged with in consciousness.

ELIAS: Correct, and you also express similar tone with that tone within your essence. You also express a preference in relation to that tone. Therefore, you have also expressed manifestations that incorporate a translation of that tone expressed in physical naming of several of your focuses as an expression of preference.

GILLIAN: The other name I got, also sort of relating to Ariel, was Alriel, like All-Real.

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding. This is another tone which is created, in a manner of speaking, as a variation of tone expressed in energy in relation to the mergence of these essences.

As essences merge, they also create alterations of tone in relation to that mergence which creates other expressions or other qualities that are expressed in the mergence and not singularly, so to speak. Are you understanding?

GILLIAN: Yes.

ELIAS: That which you generate in the mergence is not necessarily generated outside of the mergence; therefore, you create alterations of tone, and this also is expression of preference, at times.

GILLIAN: The other thing is when I talk to myself, I talk to Ariel, and I always get answers. (Pause)

ELIAS: And what is the nature of your question?

GILLIAN: If I’m talking to myself as, "What am I doing with this creation?" then I will sense the answer in my head.

ELIAS: Correct.

GILLIAN: And I feel that is the answer that I’m offering to myself objectively.

ELIAS: Correct, and you choose to be accessing information through the identification of this name, so to speak, for this provides you with a sense of comfort, for you express a preference in relation to your own focuses that incorporate that physical naming and also the mergence with the essence that incorporates that tone, which creates the preference of expression of energy which is created in the mergence, as I have stated.

GILLIAN: And intent, in terms of what I think my intents are, I would say these are the things that I felt as being familiar throughout my life: to challenge conventional thinking, to offer a view of different perspectives, to sow the seeds of change, to exchange and share the things that I know, and the curiosity of religious beliefs and of other cultures, and then the further awareness within myself and others.

ELIAS: Now; express to myself your identification of the theme that interconnects these directions.

GILLIAN: The two words that come to mind is "all change."

ELIAS: I shall express to you, an identification of your individual intent in this focus is the exploration of change and its association with affects in relation to yourself and other individuals, be they individuals that you interact with or individuals that collectively create groups.

GILLIAN: That makes sense. I feel my orientation is religious.

ELIAS: No. Orientation is a different expression from focus type. Focus type in this individual focus may be expressed as emotional.

GILLIAN: I suspected that as well. (Laughs) Would you say Pete is thought-focused?

ELIAS: Yes.

GILLIAN: And in terms of orientation - I realize where I made the error there - my orientation I feel is intermediate.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

GILLIAN: And Pete is soft.

ELIAS: Common.

GILLIAN: Was my son also intermediate?

ELIAS: Common.

GILLIAN: Oh? Okay. I want to ask a question for Archer. Is Denise’s essence name Michelle, Auriel or Lleriel? Archer has encountered new imagery with accessing this essence naming and wishes help. He knows Ariel is her focus name, but it is a princess naming of her focus.

ELIAS: Essence name, Lorial, L-O-R-I-A-L (LOR ee ahl).

GILLIAN: Thanks, that’s all for Archer. The interesting thing that’s been happening, Elias, I’ve joined the computer group and there are people I sense with a tingling in my body that there is a connection. Am I correct in that, that there is a connection and that’s how I sense it?

ELIAS: Yes.

GILLIAN: And the other thing I find as well is that in some exchanges I feel emotion, and I feel that’s the way of remembering.

ELIAS: It is, in a manner of speaking; yes. For it is an offering to yourself in the expression of thinning the veils of separation.

GILLIAN: Because I’m really starting to sense a lot of things. It’s really exciting, because when I make exchanges with this group, it has become so much fun because we are always triggering things off.

ELIAS: Quite. This is your expression of sharing experience and associations, which is also being expressed in relation to your movement of widening your awareness and allowing yourselves to be thinning these veils of separation and recognizing the interconnectedness that you share with each other.

GILLIAN: Can you tell me, this girl Renate, she got emotional when I spoke to her about the focus that I had in the 40’s as a pilot, and she too senses that we were connected very closely at that time.

ELIAS: Correct, in friendship.

GILLIAN: And what is the ... can you offer me anything on the connection with Archer?

ELIAS: And shall you not investigate this, Ari?

GILLIAN: It’s curious, because it’s only started this morning!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! This is an aspect of your fun!

GILLIAN: This is true, this is true. (Elias laughs) I know you are not going to give me the answers, so I’m going to ask you something about my dream images, then.

ELIAS: Very well.

GILLIAN: Again we talk about Ariel. I was searching, and it seemed it was what I call a flying dream, where I feel I have left my body and am very conscious of myself in that sort of dream. I’m looking for Ariel in my dream, but there was a lot of fear surrounding in that area, and I left that area because I realized that he was not there. My impression is that I was removing myself from a state of fear.

ELIAS: Allowing yourself to recognize the expression of fear, and therefore allowing yourself movement in encouragement of yourself that you may be choosing to not create that expression of fear. This is the imagery that you have presented to yourself.

GILLIAN: In another dream, I was wanting to return a book. Anyway, what happened was that I went back and then on my way back home, in the dream home, I was in a completely different place. I didn’t know how I got there, and then I found myself back at home. It was like a shifting of space.

ELIAS: Quite. Now; this is imagery that you present to yourself in relation to this shift in consciousness, for this allows you a recognition of movement that you are creating inwardly in relation to the illusion of time and physical space. For the imagery that you present to yourself in this particular dream is associated with information that I have expressed previously in relation to space arrangement and time - time in actuality, outside of your physical design, being simultaneous. Therefore all that you express, all that you create, is present now within you, and each manifestation that you create is also present overlapping physical space arrangements.

GILLIAN: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

GILLIAN: This morning I dreamt that I had a solitaire diamond. I don’t really care for that one way or the other, but it broke in four, and I was curious. It had something to do with marriage.

ELIAS: And your impression?

GILLIAN: That I was willing to let go and accept myself for myself?

ELIAS: Partially, and I may also express to you, this is imagery that you present to yourself in relation to your partner.

GILLIAN: In which way? Can you expand on that a little bit?

ELIAS: Allowing yourself to view an object that symbolizes your relationship with this individual and also allowing yourself to fracture that object, which within your symbology to yourself is the breaking open, so to speak, of this entity that you view as a relationship, to allow yourself to examine what lies beneath or what is expressed within, therefore offering yourself the opportunity to be accepting of self. Are you are understanding?

GILLIAN: Yes, I do, Elias; that’s great. I feel that I am in my final focus.

ELIAS: You are correct.

GILLIAN: This is an impression I’ve got, because when we talked last, you said Ariel was an essence tone, and you also said that it was the name of a future focus. My impression is that Ariel is the essence tone of Alok, and therefore I don’t sense Alok so strongly but rather my connection with Ariel. (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

GILLIAN: Oh, wow! I’m getting good at this! (Elias laughs) Is that why I’m so impatient about things, because this is my final focus?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. I may express to you that you create this expression of impatience many times in relation to your own judgment of self in the influence of your beliefs that you align with, that faster movement is better.

GILLIAN: But I’m a very slow mover!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Not necessarily, my friend! But within your perception you discount yourself, and therefore you associate your movement as slow. In actuality, your movement is not as slow as you perceive it to be.

GILLIAN: Can you tell me how many focuses I have in this dimension?

ELIAS: Total numbering of focuses in this dimension, 614.

GILLIAN: One last question, then. When I look in the future focus, I’ve got a sense of the name Miriam, and then I sense the name Naomi. Miriam is the mother of two children, Daniel and Leah.

ELIAS: And your question?

GILLIAN: Where does Naomi come in? ’Cause sometimes I see Naomi as the mother. (Pause)

ELIAS: These individuals you may identify as siblings.

GILLIAN: So Naomi is the sibling of Miriam?

ELIAS: Correct.

GILLIAN: Thank you for that, Elias!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

GILLIAN: It’s almost time to go. At least I’ve had a good laugh this time!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And I am encouraging of you to continue to be playful and to create fun, and this shall create much more of an ease in your movement, my friend. Ha ha ha!

GILLIAN: And have you noticed that I am coming out of isolation?

ELIAS: Yes!

GILLIAN: It’s wonderful; it’s absolutely wonderful!

ELIAS: And I am tremendously acknowledging of you in your movement. Appreciate and enjoy your freedom, my friend.

GILLIAN: Thank you, Elias. Till the next time we talk, au revoir.

ELIAS: And to you also, in tremendous affection, au revoir.

Elias departs at 10:45 AM.

(1) Gillian’s note: It is interesting that shortly after Elias offered me the challenge to explore the significance of Ariel, I stopped "conversing" with Ariel in my head. Ariel still holds my interest but not as much as before - I believe it is because as I explore/move myself further within this shift, I use "safe" essence/tones to help me move through certain explorations. I have noticed this in other things as well, which will come up in another session of mine.

(2) Gillian’s note: Since the session, I have noticed that I’m a very natural observer of me and the world at large in terms of change. In fact, I have also got a very clear impression that my intent name is "observe and accept." I have no confirmation from Elias, BUT this sits right with me and I feel no doubt about it.

(3) Gillian’s note: While in Pennsylvania, during a conversation with Renate while having breakfast I got emotional and felt sad. She was talking about the German that experimented with twins. In a session with C9 (the essence that speaks through Ted/Cara), I got confirmation that I was one of the twins being experimented on by that German focus of Archer, and that has satisfied me in my curiosity regarding Archer. There may be others, but they don’t seem to tingle my brain at the moment.

(4) Gillian’s note: My impression is that I connected with Ariel a lot "before" Alok/Ariel chose to fragment from Ari. My impression altogether is that in the moment I no longer connected with Ariel is when Alok chose to fragment.

(5) Gillian’s note: Miriam is in the same time framework as Alok/Ariel (2074).

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