Thursday, July 5, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Axel (Ricarro), Ben (Albert), and Mike (Mikah)
(No date/time stamp on video; arrival time is 25 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good evening!

BEN: Good evening!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And what shall we be discussing this evening?

BEN: Well, I would like to dedicate this session to our lovely host, Axel, who is letting us stay in his house in Düsseldorf while we're on our trip through Germany, and I would hope to ... I don't know, I'd like to give him a gift of this session in some way, a gift of information somehow.

ELIAS: Very well. And what is your direction?

BEN: (To Mike) Well, why don't you start?

MIKE: I start? You start! You're the one who wanted the dedication, so dedicate! (Elias laughs)

BEN: I've just given the dedication! I wasn't going to ask any questions! (Laughter)

Okay, I have some impressions of Axel. I can see Axel in one or two ideas in my head. One is sort of a Middle Ages period, but the other one is I can see him in some way as an Arab. (Pause)

ELIAS: And you are correct in both.

BEN: Were these possibly focuses that the three of us share? (Pause)

ELIAS: One, in Arabian country.

MIKE: What time period was that?

ELIAS: Offer your impression.

MIKE: Second century BC. (Pause)

ELIAS: First.

MIKE: First century, okay. Is this the focus that Ben and Edward know each other? They were thieves, thieving merchants.

ELIAS: Correct.

MIKE: Yes!

BEN: What was Mikah's involvement in that focus?

ELIAS: (Laughs) A young annoyance! (They all crack up)

MIKE: How was I an annoyance?

ELIAS: (Laughing) For you engage less age than these other individuals but insist upon following in their actions and attempting to be, in your terms, learning the trade, but in a manner of speaking creating obstacles in which, colorfully speaking, you appear to be underfoot many times. (Chuckles)

MIKE: I see! (Elias laughs)

BEN: So was Axel a customer or a partner?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Interesting terminology, "customer." (They all laugh)

BEN: There are no victims!

ELIAS: (Laughs) You are correct! Participant in offering goods to your thievery? (Laughter)

MIKE: I have a couple of questions, Elias. Actually, these two are for Candace. One of them is that she has the impression that the artist Gustav Klimt is a focus of Marr. (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

MIKE: Yes! She also has the impression that she is the model in Klimt's two paintings, "The Kiss" and "Woman with Hat and Feather Boa."

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: Correct. Okay!

MIKE: Oh, one more. This is my impression, that Gertrude Stein is a focus of Rudim.

ELIAS: Observing essence.

MIKE: Observing essence, okay.

BEN: I had a strange physical sensation today - which is usually my way of talking to myself - when we were in the Bonn train station. My impression was perhaps I had a concurrent focus right now in Bonn. (Pause)

ELIAS: Observing essence within a concurrent focus.

BEN: Was I interactive with the Beethoven focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

BEN: I imagine there was a lot of conflict involved. (Elias cracks up)

ELIAS: Somewhat! (They all laugh) I may express to you, the relationship is familial.

BEN: Familial.

MIKE: No homework involved there...

ELIAS: Ha ha! Not much in actuality, if you are recognizing your relationship with Michael.

BEN: So, a sibling of Beethoven?

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: Ah. Axel?

AXEL: He took my turn already! (Laughter, and Elias laughs) I have a little question regarding time. It goes like this: time flies and I just think of what I want and there it comes already, but simultaneously I feel like there is not enough time all the same because it runs so fast. I achieve things so quickly and then I am always left with a lot of time, but I hesitate to start anything because it will steal my time, of which I do not have enough. So it's like I'm going around in a circle here.

ELIAS: And your question?

AXEL: My question is ... ja. (Elias laughs) My approach would be if you could point out a direction how to deal with this little conflict that I have currently with this perception of time.

ELIAS: Very well, I shall offer to you quite a simple suggestion. Concern yourself less with the concentration upon the movement of time, and you shall also offer yourself more freedom in creating within it. (Pause)

As you concentrate your attention upon the passage of time, you also reinforce your perception that time is within limited supply. As you allow yourself to discontinue concentrating upon time itself, you shall allow yourself to move within it abundantly.

AXEL: Okay, I'll try that.

MIKE: I have a couple more questions, Elias. There was a woman that I saw when I was in Bingen and she struck me in appearance and in overall aura, I guess I could say, as being very similar to my sister. I was wondering if she is another focus of Bahlah, this woman that I saw?

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: Yes! Interesting. It was Joanne's impression that she was my mother in my Mikey focus. (Pause)

ELIAS: Not entirely, although the association may be identified with that role, but not biologically.

MIKE: If Axel doesn't have more questions ... but Ben has more questions for you.

BEN: I'm going to ask a question ... in fact, I almost had a session before we started on our Germany trip to ask you for some travel agent advice. Now that our plans are kind of in flux before we go to Vienna, I was wondering, in knowing probabilities, knowing Mikah's and my taste, essences, whatever, if you might suggest somewhere, something that we would choose to do between now and when we go to Vienna? (Pause)

ELIAS: You may choose to be engaging Vienna earlier than planned.

BEN: Well, my thoughts on engaging Vienna earlier would be to go to the Love Parade. Did you have anything else in mind? (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: Merely the presence within the location and allowing yourselves an openness to this city.

MIKE: Excellent! Thank you very much for that, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. You both engage other activity in other focuses in this particular city which also generate tremendous passion, and in allowing yourselves to experience the physical location, you may also subsequently trigger information in relation to these other focuses.

BEN: Well, that sounds like that was what was happening when we were in Bonn, that I was getting that something was happening beyond just being in that city.

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: Back to my possible World War II artist, I'm going to say my impression is ... we went to the Breker Art Museum today, it was wonderful. Is the artist's name Thorak, as being a focus of Albert's essence?

ELIAS: Correct.

MIKE: Very good! (To Axel) Your turn.

AXEL: Okay, I want to ask about my tooth. One tooth is coming up in my mouth and my first impression, before I identified this is a movement of a tooth, was simply that something like my jaw is moving or my facial expression is changing. Then a few days later when I checked in the mirror, I saw that actually my tooth has moved, and then I started to think of a medical problem. When I woke up this morning, my physical irritation has ceased, I can bite again, and now I'm wondering what I'm saying to myself with this.

ELIAS: Very well. I may express to you that you are offering to yourself physical objective evidence of how you may alter your reality in physical terms in actual matter without objective concentration, offering yourself an example of the ease in which you direct your attention and how you manipulate energy to be creating manifestations that appear to you, once again, to be impossible but are not, without creating dysfunction or dis-ease or much interruption of your design of your focus.

AXEL: Cool.

BEN: How was the thought process involved with that? Because I presume you are talking beyond the thought process.

ELIAS: Correct. It requires no thought process, and this is the point in offering himself evidence that your thought processes need not be engaged to be creating manifestations within your focus.

AXEL: This is actually what I was trying to practice, to concentrate less on my objective thoughts but rather on my energy movement.

ELIAS: Correct, I am understanding. In this, we have spoken previously of engaging your rationale and thought process and also allowing yourself to be concentrating less upon that action, that it is unnecessary to be engaging a thought process and you may create efficiently, even within the expression of physical matter, manifestations, or alterations of your reality, regardless. (Pause)

BEN: Are you still there?

ELIAS: Quite.

BEN: Thank you for the validation! (Laughter, and Elias laughs) Is Axel thought-focused?

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: Is Ben emotionally focused?

ELIAS: Yes. (They all laugh)

BEN: I find that VERY hard to believe. (Elias laughs) I'm convinced I'm sexually focused! (More laughter)

ELIAS: Ah, a new category! (Much laughter) I shall log this in this physical focus annals that you, Albert, have created a new type of personality focus which may be engaged and enjoyed by other individuals futurely! Ha ha! (They all laugh)

BEN: And I was the first! (Elias laughs, and continued group laughter)

MIKE: Does Ben have 1200 focuses in total?

ELIAS: No.

BEN: Twelve hundred and fifteen?

ELIAS: Not quite this numbering.

MIKE: What would be the correct numbering, Elias?

ELIAS: (Laughs) Total numbering of focuses in this physical dimension, 408.

MIKE: Four hundred and eight?

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: I thought I had more than a thousand! (Elias laughs)

MIKE: I was wondering if you could tell me - I didn't do much investigation on this - but I was wondering if you could tell me what focus of mine is most similar in tone of expression to myself?

ELIAS: One within the physical location [of] South America, male, time framework (pause) 18th century, also a son. This individual incorporates more siblings than do you in this focus, but creates many similar experiences and engages many similar issues.

MIKE: Okay, very good.

BEN: Does the focus have the name Miguel?

ELIAS: You are correct.

MIKE: One more question. I have the impression - and instead of asking you if it's correct, I'm going to just assume that it's correct - that there is one more piece of artistic expression that was done about my focus. I see a picture, a painting, of a beautiful woman with olive complexion, long brown hair, younger. I'm not sure who the artist is or the time frame for the artist. I was wondering if you could either tell me the artist or tell me what direction to look at for this artwork.

ELIAS: As an expression of a focus of your essence?

MIKE: No, no, no, no. Well, if one such piece of artwork exists as an expression of my essence, then I would like to know that too. But I was looking as the model of the painting as being a focus of mine.

ELIAS: Ah, very well, one moment. (17-second pause) Your impression is correct in identification of both expressions.

MIKE: Of what? Say that again, please.

ELIAS: Both expressions.

MIKE: Okay, could you tell me the artist who did the painting of my focus? (Pause)

ELIAS: Ah! You may be interactive with Emilio if you are so choosing, for the partner of this individual within another focus is the individual that has generated this picture - Rivera.

BEN: So the painting was done by Diego Rivera?

ELIAS: Correct.

MIKE: Ah, interesting. And did I hear you say that there is a painting of mine that I did as a focus that exists?

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: What painting? Who? (Elias laughs) Don't laugh at me, I've been laughed at enough today! At least point me in some direction if you're not going to tell me.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! Very well, I may express to you that this individual is a Spaniard.

MIKE: A Spaniard?

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: Goya?

ELIAS: The individual engages the time framework late 1800s, early 1900s. Now you may investigate.

MIKE: Could you tell me a school of art? (Elias chuckles) Okay, let me recap to make sure because the connection is kind of fuzzy. You said later 1800s, early 1900s?

ELIAS: Correct.

MIKE: And he's a male, a Spaniard?

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: So Mikah is the artist who paints ... Mikah has a focus as an artist during this time?

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: How many total focuses does Axel have?

ELIAS: (Pause) Total numbering of focuses within this physical dimension, 92.

AXEL: That is not much.

ELIAS: You are correct.

AXEL: Am I the final focus?

ELIAS: And your impression?

AXEL: Yes, I am.

ELIAS: As the designated final focus, you are correct.

AXEL: I would ask one more simple or general question, which is simply how have I been doing with my staying with self in the now lately?

ELIAS: Express the nature of your question. You are expressing in generalities; offer more specific.

AXEL: The nature of my question goes in the direction that I consider it as very essential for my development, so I just wondered if you could give me some feedback if I'm doing well in this direction. Because it's definitely the job that you gave me, to stay as much as I can with self in the now. I felt like you pointed out this is vital for me.

ELIAS: You are correct. And I may express to you that you ARE accomplishing. I may also express to you the suggestion that you allow yourself to pay attention to the tension that you create, noticing that and allowing yourself to relax, and incorporate more playfulness.

BEN: When I mentioned Axel's Middle Ages focus, was he interactive with you during this wizard period? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: Along those same lines, was that one of the focuses that I shared with you, too, when I was the sorcerer person?

ELIAS: As acquaintance, yes.

MIKE: As what?

BEN: Apprentice.

ELIAS: Acquaintance!

MIKE: A prince?

ELIAS: Acquaintance.

MIKE: Oh! (They all laugh, and a pause) I don't expect a long explanation, because I know you'd probably rather talk to her yourself, Elias, but Candace asked that if I had time that I ask you if you could give the smallest hint possible but something to help her clear up what it is exactly that she's creating or what obstacle it is that she's dealing with right now. (Pause)

ELIAS: You may offer to Candace, she is engaging a time framework presently of confusion in not directing her energy and attention.

MIKE: So she's experiencing confusion because she's not directing her energy or attention.

ELIAS: Correct. She is engaging distraction and allowing her attention to be scattered.

AXEL: Elias, when I hear I have only 92 focuses in this physical reality, this reminds me of my general approach to anything, to finish anything very quickly. Is that related to that?

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: You have any questions, Ben?

BEN: No. (Laughter)

AXEL: You've run out of questions?! (Laughter)

MIKE: Maybe you can clarify this, Elias. I wasn't going to ask this this session, but I guess I could sort of talk it out here and maybe you could tell me where I'm a bit confused.

When we were at a museum in Basil, I saw a piece of art that spawned an idea for an analogy of source events and camouflage. It was layers of material lying on top of three individually sized logs, and there had to be about 20 layers of this material on top of the logs. We looked on top of the very top layer of the material, and there was a unique pattern for each log but it didn't resemble the logs at all after it had been filtered down.

So I'm not sure whether or not to connect this with the logs being representative of subjective information being translated through beliefs and perception, or outside information being perceived and being stored away as thought or however else that would work. I'm not sure whether it's from the inside out or from the outside in, even though they're both the same.

ELIAS: And what is your assessment in relation to your identification of Source Events?

MIKE: Communication from essence, communication from within.

ELIAS: In relation to Source Events?

MIKE: I used the wrong term. When I say "source event" I mean a source like a source spot or a source communication, as in the pure expression of essence communicates from self before it's translated through beliefs, perception, orientation, personality traits, intents and all that stuff.

ELIAS: Ah! I am understanding.

MIKE: So what do you think?

ELIAS: At times, you are correct. For at times you may be offering yourself a communication of essence and you may be translating that communication through layers of influences of different aspects of beliefs, which alters the expression of that communication.

Now; this is not to say that the translation is not valid; it merely may be not what it appears to be.

MIKE: Right. Okay, along the same lines with the analogy, if I could push a little bit further with it, I'm trying to fit in acceptance into these layers, and how it would affect the translation of the source or the communication. Would the acceptance be like making the fabric or the layers less hard or less dense?

ELIAS: No. The acceptance may be expressed merely in the recognition of the existence of the layers in like manner to the fabric, and an allowance and appreciation for the expression that each layer creates in addition to the core, recognizing that each layer is adding to the initial expression, offering a different hue which is created in relation to each layer and in combination with all of the layers.

The recognition that the layers exist offers you the opportunity to view the core and each of the layers also, recognizing what influence each layer produces within itself and what the combination of layers produce, and allowing yourself an acceptance of all of the expressions, recognizing that they merely alter the objective viewing or coloring of the core expression, but that it matters not.

MIKE: Okay. Thank you very much for that.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

BEN: I'll give an impression off my ongoing Oscar suspect list. (Elias laughs) Is John Gray a focus of Olivia's? (Pause)

ELIAS: Correct.

BEN: Is Andre Gide, or perhaps Robert Hichins even, a focus of Othello's?

ELIAS: Gide.

BEN: Gide. Merci!

AXEL: Okay, I'm getting really simplistic now! (Elias laughs) You encouraged me by validating that I want to achieve things quickly, so I express that at this moment in time I see my approach to everything basically like this: I stay with self in the now; I just focus on what I want. If there are other communications that don't fit in the picture that I want, I just take it as it is without judgment. I relax and take it playfully and don't watch the time.

ELIAS: Correct.

AXEL: Is that an acceptable summary?

ELIAS: Correct, yes.

AXEL: Have I forgotten anything, any important point?

ELIAS: Allow yourself to be remembering that as you project your energy into the creation of what you want, not to be snaring yourself in concentration in thought process concerning that want.

AXEL: And that will be even more effective?

ELIAS: Correct.

AXEL: Cool.

BEN: Elias, can you give something of objective significance about the three of us being here together? I know there must be something subjective going on that's completely different than just three friends enjoying one another's company and journeys and traveling. Can you elaborate on what's going on subjectively?

ELIAS: What you are creating is an opportunity to be... (Laughter resulting from an off-tape remark)

BEN: Would you mind repeating that?

ELIAS: You are creating an opportunity to be expressing an example of the lack of separation in relation to yourselves and other individuals.

In the movement that you have chosen to be creating in this adventure, you have allowed yourselves to objectively meet and interact, and therefore express an example in relation to the lack of separation, although within your objective awareness it appears to be expressing separation in physical proximities; but [although] the expression of physical proximity, or the lack of, may seem to create more of a separation between individuals, in actuality in this time framework as you continue objectifying this shift in consciousness, you also create more avenues to be interplaying with each other objectively in similar manner to subjective interplay.

AXEL: I had the thought today, I wish I had friends like this here in my town.

ELIAS: Ah, but you do.

AXEL: Objectively?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) These individuals are present within your town! (Axel, Ben and Mike crack up)

AXEL: I add the word "permanent," permanent resident. (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: Therefore my friend, in recognition of this objective expression and evidence of the lack of separation and the mirror of the subjective movement, as you ARE inserting this shift in consciousness objectively, I challenge you: create this!

AXEL: Ja, that was my thought. (Elias laughs)

BEN: I guess that means he's inviting us to live with him! (They all laugh)

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Ah, perhaps you shall be extending your holiday and being playful, without obligation. NOT! Ha ha ha ha! (Laughter)

MIKE: You guys have more questions? I have more.

ELIAS: Of course!

MIKE: Of course!

BEN: You may ask ONE. (Laughter)

MIKE: Elias, am I an observing essence of the focus of Mark Twain?

ELIAS: Yes.

MIKE: May I ask another one then?

BEN: Say, "Mother may I."

MIKE: Mother may I. (Laughter) I had a dream a while ago, Elias, and without going into too much detail, in the dream - it was a lucid dream - I believe I was merged with another focus of mine where I was observing my sister, my present sister, as my daughter and her boyfriend Rick was a boyfriend in the dream. I remember in the dream holding so much not hatred but dislike for this individual because he was trying to court my daughter, and I remember planning on how I was going to kill him. I remember without my daughter knowing I took him out back and I killed him. I remember feeling like I was much older, like in later 50s, early 60s perhaps, and I feel like this was my Sicilian mafia focus.

ELIAS: You are correct.

MIKE: Now, was I a don of that area?

ELIAS: No, but associated with as an assassin.

MIKE: Interesting. My daughter, was Bahlah my daughter in that focus?

ELIAS: Yes, and I may offer to you, Mikah, that you may express the identification of this particular focus to Christian, and you may express to Christian that you are equally as deviant as himself as his prized possession of [name omitted]! (Laughter)

MIKE: Very good! (Elias laughs) How many focuses do my sister, Bahlah, and her boyfriend Rick share together?

ELIAS: Eight.

MIKE: Okay, I'm done, Elias. Ben has more questions because he's jumping up and down in his seat. (Elias laughs)

BEN: Well, I normally don't like to talk to you about my private life, Elias, but I'm going to take a stab at it this once. Speaking of dreams and other sorts of things, my impression is that there is something about the relationship between my ex, Roger, and my brother Frank.

ELIAS: And what is your identification of your impression concerning these two individuals? You are correct.

BEN: In my dreams they are often interchangeable. (Pause)

ELIAS: Continue.

BEN: And I guess I have belief systems about this whole idea of engaging the same sorts of relationships over and over.

ELIAS: Continue.

BEN: So, I would like very much to try something different.

ELIAS: Very well. What is the nature of your question?

BEN: I guess the most obvious is, are they focuses of the same essence, or what is the relationship between those two people?

ELIAS: They are not focuses of the same essence, although they do participate in many focuses together.

BEN: Why would I interchange them in my dreams?

ELIAS: You also have participated with each of them in many focuses. I may also express to you that the qualities expressed in the primary aspects of these focuses are very similarly created; therefore, this expresses a very similar tone of focuses.

The essences do not necessarily generate an entirely similar tone, but in the manifestations of the focuses of attention and the qualities which are expressed in those focuses, this creates a similarity in tone in relation to the focuses. Therefore, in your recognition of this similarity, you also image that by exchanging identities or blurring the identities of these two individuals. (Pause)

BEN: I want to ask some more questions for Axel, but I can't think of any. (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS: He is quite able to be engaging questions himself if he is so choosing. (Laughter)

Ah, Albert! You engage such curiosity of other individuals. You are quite expressive in the nature of your alignment as an Ilda! (Chuckles)

BEN: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend. Ha ha ha!

MIKE: Why don't you ask about your intent?

BEN: Mikah wants me to ask you my intent, but I'm going to give you my impression of my intent...

ELIAS: Very well.

BEN: ...and we'll go from there.

ELIAS: Very well.

BEN: My impression is that I am a psychic matchmaker.

ELIAS: Ah, and in this what do you assess your accomplishment to be?

BEN: Introducing concepts to one another.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Correct. Not to be confused with the matchmaking of individuals, in which your successfulness is lacking. (They all laugh loudly) Ha ha ha ha!

This would also be a lacking in the expression of the matchmaking that you attempt to be creating in relation to self, therefore not contributing to your value fulfillment, and obviously NOT an aspect of your intent. Ha ha ha!

BEN: If you say so! (Elias laughs)

MIKE: How many focuses do Albert, myself and ... what is Axel's essence name again?

AXEL: Ricarro.

MIKE: How many do the three of us share together? (Pause)

ELIAS: Eighteen.

MIKE: Wait a minute, Elias, you told me and Ben that he and I only share 14 together. How can I be interactive with Ben 18 times if we only share 14 focuses together?

ELIAS: For you are inquiring in relation to a third individual, and therefore this incorporates an interaction of observing essences also.

MIKE: What? (Laughter)

ELIAS: You are inquiring in relation to yourself, Albert and Ricarro in relation to focuses that you all three participate within.

MIKE: You are correct.

ELIAS: In this, the focuses that you participate within in relation to Ricarro, several are observing essence and therefore this also may be included.

BEN: Wait a minute. Let me see if I get this straight. So in other words, if there are 14 between Mikah and myself, those additional four would be between Mikah and Ricarro, with me being an observing essence of those focuses?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. In this, I am identifying 18 focuses in which all three of you participate together in the capacity of manifest focuses interacting with each other, but some of those focuses are being experienced as an observing essence with the specific choice to not be PARTIALLY incorporating observing essence capacity with a particular focus.

What I am expressing is, at times essences choose to be continuing their participation as an observing essence from the onset of manifestation to the point of disengagement. This type of observing essence activity may be related to your participation in a particular focus with another individual, although you are not directing of the focus; but you are choosing to be participating in observance throughout the ENTIRETY of the focus and not merely a segment of it, so to speak.

MIKE: Okay, then can I ask, Elias, how many actual manifestations as directing focuses do the three of us share together? (Pause)

ELIAS: As directing focuses, five.

MIKE: And would the number 14 still be the same for Ben and me as directing focuses?

ELIAS: Yes. Be aware that there is a distinction expressed in this type of action of "observing focus." For I may express to you, generally speaking essences create this action of an observing essence within a particular focus in segments, so to speak, not generally in the expression of the entirety of a focus.

MIKE: Okay, all right. Thank you very much, Elias, for your responsiveness to our questions.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friends. I offer my encouragement in continuing your journey in your holiday, and I may offer my encouragement and energy to you both, Mikah and Albert, in your experience within Vienna.

MIKE: We look forward to that.

ELIAS: To you, Ricarro, I anticipate our next interaction. To you all this evening, in tremendous affection, au revoir.

BEN: Au revoir.

MIKE: Auf wiedersehen!

AXEL: Tschuess!

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