Saturday, May 26, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Vivien (Miriam), and a new participant, MR (Lyth)
Elias arrives at 9:29 AM. (Arrival time is 23 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

VIVIEN: Good morning, Elias! You are, as always, well, I'm sure!

ELIAS: Yes.

VIVIEN: Very good. I'm here with MR.

MR: Good morning, Elias.

ELIAS: Good morning!

MR: This is the first time we have met.

ELIAS: Welcome! (Chuckle) And I offer my encouragement to you.

VIVIEN: I'm going to go first, Elias...

ELIAS: Very well.

VIVIEN: ...then I'll turn you over to MR. I'd like to ask you first about an update on a couple of focuses that I've made contact with. One is a Greek focus, I believe. She is an older woman for those times, I think maybe late forties. I see her as having rather masculine features, strong masculine features, but quite handsome in her way. I think her name is Phaedra, or something like Phaedra, and she has a much younger brother that she is looking after, because our mother died or got sick or something like that. I think this younger brother is a person I met about a year ago called Tom. Am I correct in that?

ELIAS: Yes.

VIVIEN: Ah, and is the name Phaedra correct?

ELIAS: Eliminate the "R."

VIVIEN: Phaede?

ELIAS: Phaeda. (Pause) Continue.

VIVIEN: So then it would be like Phaeda?

ELIAS: Yes.

VIVIEN: And Tom, in his focus, was he a goatherd or a shepherd of some kind?

ELIAS: Yes.

VIVIEN: I think that's probably why I had the feeling of being like a sister to him now; I think that's bleeding through. I feel like I need to take care of him. (Elias laughs) Yes, I know! I'll get to that later. (Laughs)

The other focus I want to check with you is one that I believe her name is Caroline, and she's a homeless black woman living in Chicago. I think she has drug and alcohol problems, and I think she's presently alive.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN: Is she very sick at the moment?

ELIAS: Yes.

VIVIEN: I think she's planning to disengage quite soon.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN: Thank you. The other thing I'd like to ask you is, how many focuses do I have presently, Elias, in this time frame?

ELIAS: Six.

VIVIEN: Six. Okay, Caroline I know of; I have another one, Jordan, I know of, the young man who I think lives in Michigan. The other four, I can't quite connect with them right now, but I will work on it. But is one of them in China? (Pause)

ELIAS: Taiwan.

VIVIEN: Taiwan. Oh! Another one is in Hawaii?

ELIAS: Temporarily, yes.

VIVIEN: But not from Hawaii, okay. I'll work on that one myself some more. All right, the next thing I'd like to ask to you about is I had a dream recently, a couple of days ago, and it was in an apartment building that I've been in before in my dreams. I went up to the top of this building where my apartment was, number 40 or 41, and there was a very large patio that was built outside of it, with people sitting at tables. It seemed to be connected to another building next door, and I could see a city below and water; the ocean was there. As I'm in the dream, I become aware that I'm in the dream but then it seemed to be more like a reality, another probable reality that I live in or maybe another dimension that I live in. I asked a man who was waiting on tables where I was. He told me, but I can't remember what he said. It seemed to be a different planet name as well. Can you tell me about that? Oh, he said the time frame was the 2100s.

ELIAS: I am understanding. What you have allowed yourself in this experience is to be viewing a probable reality.

Now; this is, in your terms, a different expression than viewing another physical dimension. Although, in a manner of speaking, it IS another physical dimension but it is also, in a manner of speaking, a mirror of THIS physical dimension. Therefore, the characteristics and the structure of that dimension shall be the same as this dimension. In this, you are not viewing an alternate self, but an actual probable self and probable reality.

VIVIEN: Was it in the future? From my point of view?

ELIAS: From your association, yes.

VIVIEN: I think I understand that, all right. Now I'd like to ask you, the last couple of years for me have been so full of change and moving, and I seem to have attracted an awful lot of what I consider to be needy people that I've felt both a responsibility for and a desire to help. I know there's a difference between those two things.

I think I've been facing myself with these things and creating these events to allow myself to move through the personal responsibility issues that I have, but I'm getting ever so tired of doing this. I'm wondering if I'm creating a future of moving through this and stopping it, and allowing myself more freedom from that personal responsibility that I feel?

ELIAS: I may express to you, first of all in response to your question, yes, you are creating movement to be dismantling this issue of personal responsibility. But I may also express to you that you are creating another action in this presentment to yourself, for you are also offering yourself the opportunity to practice turning your attention, and therefore altering your perception in relation to your interaction with other individuals. For it is not merely a movement of discontinuing the expression of personal responsibility, but also allowing yourself to be actually turning your attention genuinely to self and therefore creating a different perception; and in creating a different perception your movement alters.

In this, you may continue to draw these types of individuals to yourself, but your interaction with them shall be quite different, and as this is accomplished, your affectingness with these individuals shall be much greater and much more beneficial.

VIVIEN: Yes, I can understand that because I'm removing the judgment. Is that what you're saying to me?

ELIAS: Partially. Also, in this alteration of perception, your responsiveness to these individuals shall move in quite a different manner, in which your interaction and your participation with them shall shift from the expression of wishing to be helpful into an expression of knowing and encouraging the free flow of energy of the other individual which shall be, in actuality, much more helpful than the expression of wishing to be helpful now.

VIVIEN: So more of a true empowerment, or helping them to empower themselves?

ELIAS: Yes.

VIVIEN: Good. That sounds like it's going to be great! (Elias chuckles) I wonder if I could do this with myself, too? (Laughing, and Elias laughs) I need to start practicing on myself first, I think.

ELIAS: Ah! And this is the point!

VIVIEN: I know! (Both laugh) Well, I will do my best. Has this got something to do with birds in my life recently? I'll explain for our readers.

ELIAS: Very well.

VIVIEN: We were sitting out in the backyard and on the dock appeared a little bird. My husband pointed it out, and there was a little cockatiel just sitting on the dock. I went over quietly, and he came on my finger. To cut a long story short, he stayed with us for about a week. I got him a cage, and he sat in it sometimes and sometimes he sat on top of it. He was a loud little bird in the morning. He was given your name, Oscar, because we found him on Academy Awards day, and my little boy, James, gave him the other name of Tweety, so he became Oscar Tweety. He stayed for a week, and then one day when the door was open he took off like a rocket. He sort of gave a whistle of a battle cry and took off, and was free again. Two days later a chicken flew into the garden. It's been quite bizarre! A couple of days after that, we heard that there were peacocks in the neighborhood close by, just walking around in the street.

We've got all these exotic birds coming in and out of our lives right now, going into the cage and leaving the cage. It's quite fun imagery I gave myself on the analogy that you've given us about belief systems and the birdcage and the birds leaving and coming.

ELIAS: Correct. Although, I may also express to you that this presentment that you have offered to yourself is an expression beyond the concept of the beliefs and the birds within the birdcages, for you have presented this imagery to yourself in relation to your previous question, in relation to your interaction with other individuals.

In this, these creatures have interacted within your expression as an example to you in physical terms of how one may be interactive and merely express from one's own direction and be influencing of another. But in a manner of speaking, there is no actual attention in agenda, so to speak, in their expression. There is merely the presentment and the allowance of interaction and objective contact, so to speak, but there is no expectation. It is merely an offering.

VIVIEN: Yes, it was kind of like that. It was a very free coming and going.

ELIAS: Correct, and this is a physical example that you have presented to yourself in relation to your desire to be moving into this type of an expression with self. Paying attention...

VIVIEN: You mean freedom as well, and an expression of freedom?

ELIAS: Yes. Paying attention to self, and therefore creating no agenda or expectation in relation to other individuals and your interaction with them.

VIVIEN: Interesting, thank you. That's very clear now, and it wasn't at first. I didn't think I was following you, but now I think I have. (Elias laughs) Good, thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

VIVIEN: I'm going to take a break from this, and pass you over to MR and give her a chance to have some questions with you.

ELIAS: Very well.

MR: Hello, Elias.

ELIAS: Good morning!

MR: My first question is, I'd like to know what my life purpose or intent is in this life.

ELIAS: Ah! And I shall pose the inquiry to you, in challenging you to be allowing yourself to view the whole or the entirety of your focus from the onset to this point, and attempt to be discovering the theme of your experiences. For in attempting to view your intent in one focus, you may easily identify that expression as you allow yourself to view your direction and your experiences that you have chosen throughout your focus, and the general direction of your attention and that which motivates you within all of your experiences. Are you understanding?

MR: I'm trying to. Not quite, no.

ELIAS: Throughout the entirety of any individual's focus within this dimension, they create a type of theme which is expressed through their natural preferences and their natural expression of passion.

MR: I understand that, but I just think that as we come into each life there is a certain purpose that we're supposed to achieve or something we're supposed to experience.

ELIAS: No, this is incorrect. I may express to you that as you choose to manifest within this physical focus, you do create a direction which is expressed through your desire. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, what you are creating is a type of steering of yourself in a particular direction of exploration. But this is quite different from the concept that you manifest with a particular purpose to be achieving a particular goal, so to speak.

That type of expression is generated through the influence of mass beliefs, that express that you are manifesting within this physical dimension to be learning and to be achieving certain goals, which denies you your actual expression of choice. It infers that you are placed within this physical dimension to be accomplishing a particular mission, so to speak, which also infers that you are not choosing your own direction or what you are creating. This is the identification of the mass belief which influences this concept, so to speak.

In actuality, you manifest in this physical dimension with a direction that you choose to be exploring. But this is not an absolute, for you also may change that direction at any point or moment. Generally speaking, individuals do not alter their direction of exploration within one focus, for it is unnecessary. But as I have stated, this is not an absolute, and this is not to say that you do not hold the choice to be altering your direction. Your purpose in manifesting in this physical dimension is merely to explore different aspects of this physical manifestation and to be, in this time framework, participating in this movement and action of this shift in consciousness. But within any moment you also hold the choice to alter that expression.

Therefore, what I am expressing to you is that your intent is merely the expression of your desire and how that is manifest and moved through your physical experiences in this focus. You do not manifest within this dimension, or any dimension, to be serving a purpose or accomplishing some action that you should be accomplishing or learning that you may be moving into any "higher level" of experience or manifestation. Are you understanding?

MR: Partly. I really need to go over it again, I think. What are the probabilities then that I'm creating in regard to goals, sort of as business is concerned, based on the track that I'm on?

ELIAS: Let me inquire to you, what is your impression as to your movement and what you are creating in this subject matter?

MR: I think that I'll continue to evolve and change until I achieve them, or indeed, could it maybe perhaps change the focus of what I wanted? I'm not sure. For example, years and years ago I always wanted to be an actress. I still do, partly. It's what I would like to do, although it would certainly not be the crap that I'm taking, at all. I enjoy the performing arts, but not to be my life. That's why I was asking about purpose. I enjoy what I'm doing very much now.

I'm just wondering, are there perhaps belief systems that I have that are not allowing me to achieve the full potential that I could achieve?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. Although, I may express to you that you may allow yourself to recognize that you may incorporate many different expressions, and you are not necessarily denying yourself some direction merely for the reason that you do not choose in the moment to be fully exploring that one direction.

You have allowed yourself to create a variety of explorations, expressing this in different interests, and as you choose any particular direction in relation to what you view as business or jobs, what holds significance is whether you allow yourself a playfulness and a joyfulness in what you are engaging.

In this, if you are not and you are creating conflict in those expressions and moments, you may choose to be examining what you are denying within yourself. But as you are not creating conflict, and as you are allowing yourself an expression of playfulness and joyfulness, you need not concern yourself with what you are denying yourself or whether your expression may be created in more of a fullness if you are engaging some other action. Your attention is directed in an expression that is not offering you conflict and that is fulfilling.

MR: Yes, I'm enjoying what I'm doing very much now.

ELIAS: And you may allow yourself to engage other activities and other expressions within your own creativity. But this is not to say that you must be turning your movement and your attention singularly and fully into those other expressions of creativity. You may allow yourself a free flow of your own expressions and your interests, and not necessarily concentrate your attention and energy in one particular direction. Are you understanding?

MR: Yes, very much so. In fact, that's probably exactly what I'm doing right now, and I'm very much happier. I was just wondering though, my concerns, I mean concerns as money sources, am I being realistic as far as being able to financially manage in this scenario?

ELIAS: Yes.

MR: Oh, I'm glad to hear that! (Laughs) What about the probabilities of creating as far as my relationship? I'm not involved with a man presently, but I would very much like that in my life.

ELIAS: And I may express to you, if this is the nature of your want you may create it. It is not dependent upon another individual. It is your choice to be creating that manifestation.

MR: Right. So what is it that I'm doing, or what are my thoughts that are sort of hindering that coming into my life? Because obviously on a conscious level my choice is one thing and subconsciously I'm attracting something else.

ELIAS: In this particular situation with yourself individually, I may not necessarily identify within you that you are creating an actual hindrance, so to speak. You are not in actuality blocking that type of an expression.

What you are creating presently is a movement that may in actuality allow you to be creating this manifestation of a relationship with another individual more fully. For you are concentrating your attention upon yourself and becoming more familiar with your own movement, your own expressions, your own perception, and becoming more familiar with yourself and how you project your energy in relation to other individuals.

This is a very beneficial movement within yourself, and may allow you to be creating more of an ease in an interaction with another individual and less of an expression of conflict futurely in the time framework in which you do allow yourself to create this type of an expression of an intimate relationship with another individual. In your terms, this movement that you are creating in becoming more familiar with yourself shall also benefit you in relation to another individual in being more accepting of the other individual futurely.

MR: Yes, I agree with that. You're absolutely right. Vivien, did you want to ask something?

VIVIEN: I just want to ask a question for you, actually. The individual that MR will be creating this relationship with, is it somebody who is known to her presently? In all probability? (Pause)

ELIAS: Perhaps, but I may also express to you that within this present now in relation to the aspect of her choices, it may or may not be an individual that is objectively known presently. This is dependent upon which direction is chosen by her in relation to the movement that she is creating within self in this process, so to speak, of becoming familiar with herself.

MR: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

VIVIEN: May I ask you for a couple of essence names?

ELIAS: You may.

VIVIEN: One, I'd like to know the essence name of my friend Tom, the one who was my brother. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Darshan, D-A-R-S-H-A-N (dar SHAN).

VIVIEN: Thank you. And his family and alignment?

ELIAS: Essence family, Gramada; alignment, Sumafi.

VIVIEN: Thank you. Also, MR, would you like to know your essence family and alignment?

MR: Okay.

VIVIEN: For MR, then.

ELIAS: Offer to me your impression.

VIVIEN: I think she is Sumari, Zuli alignment.

ELIAS: Correct.

VIVIEN: Let's see, Tom's wife Robin, I'd like her essence name and family and alignment, please. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Boone, B-O-O-N-E (BOON); essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Borledim.

VIVIEN: And one more, my friend Pat, I'd like her essence name, family and alignment too, please.

ELIAS: Essence name, Nuru, N-U-R-U (NOO roo). And your impression?

VIVIEN: I'd pick Sumafi family, alignment probably Milumet.

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Zuli.

VIVIEN: Oh, Zuli! Oh yeah, that figures. It does, now I think about it; that makes a lot of sense. (Elias laughs) Okay, let me look. Can I ask you a question about Pam with her illness? How is she doing with that? Do you want my impression on it?

ELIAS: Yes!

VIVIEN: My impression is that she seems, according to doctors and herself, to be recovering from this cancer. I still have this feeling that she has chosen to disengage, and I've got the feeling that the choice to disengage will be soon. (Pause)

ELIAS: I shall express to you within the present movement, your impression is correct; although I remind you, this is not an absolute.

VIVIEN: I understand that. Can you sort of hint at the probabilities of that for me? What her most probable probability will be?

ELIAS: I may express to you merely what is being created in this present now, and recognize that this individual also may choose to be altering that expression and direction. But within this present time framework, there is being expressed a desire to be disengaging from the physical interaction and manifestation of this shift in consciousness.

VIVIEN: Yes. Okay, thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

VIVIEN: MR, do you have anything else?

MR: Yes, I'd like to ask, is there a particular belief that I have that perhaps I could change or work on that would enable me to achieve my goals and the full potential that I can in this life?

ELIAS: In which expression?

MR: I'm sorry?

VIVIEN: Which expression do you want to change to achieve your goals?

MR: All of them! (Laughs)

VIVIEN: She wants a lot! (Laughs)

MR: Well, okay, let me rephrase that then. Is there a belief, or beliefs, that I can work on to achieve my full potential, of the best that I can be?

VIVIEN: Beliefs about yourself?

MR: Well, beliefs about anything.

ELIAS: As with you all, you incorporate many beliefs, and your beliefs are influencing of your perception. I may express to you that within your movement, you may be expressing what you want more fully in continuing the action that you have already begun, that of turning your attention to self and not necessarily concentrating your attention upon the beliefs, but directing your attention to self and allowing yourself an acceptance of your beliefs, therefore not creating automatic responses and denying your choices. Are you understanding?

MR: I think so.

ELIAS: The addressing to particular beliefs within your individual movement presently is not necessarily holding as much significance as it may be to merely continue turning your attention to self, and noticing and paying attention to your own movement and your automatic responses.

The beliefs in themselves and viewing the beliefs themselves may not necessarily be as beneficial to you presently as it shall be to merely notice the influence of any of your beliefs and the time frameworks in which you allow yourself to be creating automatic responses rather than incorporating the fullness of your choices. But this shall be accomplished in the movement that you are presently engaging: turning your attention to self and becoming more familiar with your own movement and that which influences you, and the triggers, so to speak, that you create which move you into certain automatic expressions.

VIVIEN: Elias, I'd like to ask you about something that I've been noticing about myself, more recently than anything. I have a certain passive quality about me at times that I find a little bit irritating, but I don't quite understand it. It's not depression; it's not a sadness. With all the moving that I'm doing objectively, there seems to be an inner part of me that has a passivity about it, which I don't like much. It's almost like I feel stagnated. Do you understand what I'm talking about? I'm moving all over the place and doing so many things, but there's an inner feeling of passivity which is ... I feel like it's not accomplishing anything.

ELIAS: I am understanding, yes, and in this, question yourself as to what your communication to yourself is in noticing this expression, and your association with it in a negative expression.

VIVIEN: I think that the feeling is there's a slight ... it's not a depressed feeling, but it's more a sense of perhaps hopelessness and not accomplishing. Even when I want to do something, like maybe start a painting or start something, I have the feeling that it's just not worth it. I can't be bothered.

ELIAS: This is the signal.

Now; what I am expressing to you is that you allow yourself to receive and identify the communication, the message.

VIVIEN: What am I telling myself with that?

ELIAS: Yes. You are noticing the signal.

VIVIEN: So I suppose it has to do with my sense of self-esteem and my ability and my worth.

ELIAS: Not necessarily that which you identify in your physical terms as self-esteem, but it is directly associated with your assessment of your abilities.

VIVIEN: Ah! So this is really my signal to myself that I am deceiving myself, not to be good enough at something or other.

ELIAS: You are discounting of your own abilities to be creating what you want efficiently and effectively, and in this, your communication to yourself, your signal that you offer to yourself, is a lack of motivation, for what you are already creating in your expression and the communication concerning that creation is identifying to you that you are doubting of and discounting of your ability to fully be creating what you want in relation to self and other individuals - not merely in relation to self, but also in relation to other individuals.

VIVIEN: This comes back to the personal responsibility issues again, I suppose.

ELIAS: Not necessarily, my friend. I may express to you that your doubt which is being expressed is concerning your confusion in relation to the actual manifestation of you creating every aspect of your reality, for there is a strong association that you have created in relation to other individuals, that you create interaction with other individuals and yourself only to a point, and once arriving at that point, your association is that the other individual then creates the reality. Therefore, you are doubting and questioning your own ability to be creating all of your reality.

VIVIEN: Ah! I've fallen into that old trap. (Laughing) You've made it very clear now, thank you.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, be remembering, it matters not what other individuals choose, for YOU choose what you shall create regardless of the expressions of other individuals. But if you are doubting of your ability to fully be creating your reality, you shall move into the expression of allowing yourself to be dictated to by the choices of other individuals and in that association, you become the victim.

VIVIEN: My god, I think you've hit the nail on the head! Yes, that's exactly it, isn't it, that feeling of hopelessness. It's a victim feeling.

ELIAS: Correct, and once you have created that association, you deny yourself your choices.

VIVIEN: Yes, I sit and do nothing rather than make a stand against something, or take movement or action of any kind.

ELIAS: Correct.

VIVIEN: Therefore, I overwhelm myself.

ELIAS: Correct.

VIVIEN: Thank you very much. You made that much, much clearer.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

VIVIEN: Oh, one other question. You told me once I had 52 focuses in this dimension, this human dimension. I thought at the time it seemed like an awful lot, but now I've read other transcripts and people have got thousands of them! I was wondering, is there any particular reason I've only chosen to have 52?

ELIAS: Ah! In your physical associations, you may identify yourself as a "new soul," in your terms. Some individuals choose not to be creating many manifestations in a particular physical dimension. I may express to you that you do incorporate many more manifestations in other dimensions.

VIVIEN: Yes, I'm aware of a couple of them.

ELIAS: But within this physical dimension, you have chosen to participate in focusing attentions, but not many. I may express to you an identification that any essence focusing their attention in this physical dimension in less than 200 focuses may be identified as focusing very few manifestations.

VIVIEN: I bet MR has got a lot. (Elias chuckles) How many does MR have in this dimension? (Pause)

ELIAS: Seven hundred eighty-two.

VIVIEN: Wow, interesting.

MR: Yes, 782. That's a lot. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

VIVIEN: But we're nearly out of time, I think. I'm not quite sure what time we started. Was it around 9:30? We were very late.

MR: Actually, I just have one question. Is there anything that you would like to tell me that you think I should know?

ELIAS: Merely to continue noticing and allowing yourself to be aware of the moments in which you are projecting yourself outside of the now. For in relation to yourself individually, you do create many times, so to speak, in which you are projecting your attention outside of the now. This may be helpful to you in your clarity, if you are paying attention and turning your attention, once again, to the now.

MR: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

VIVIEN: Elias, I do have one more thing I'd like to ask you. The other day when I was meditating, I saw a little boy's face, and I think it was the little Rose child, Jesus Yugu. He gave me a great big grin. Am I correct in that?

ELIAS: Yes.

VIVIEN: Was he aware of me in an objective way?

ELIAS: No.

VIVIEN: It was very fleeting. It was just for a moment or two, but there was a very direct connection there. I was just wondering why I created that.

ELIAS: I may express to you, my friend, you have merely allowed yourself a viewing of one of these small ones, in a manner of speaking, merely to view and to be encouraging to yourself in an expression of yourself. Also I may express to you, you have offered yourself this experience in validation of yourself.

VIVIEN: In what way?

ELIAS: This allows you to validate yourself in relation to your abilities that you doubt.

VIVIEN: (Laughing) It's true. I see all this stuff. Nearly every day I see something or experience something, but I still doubt. I talk to you in my head quite often, and I know you're aware.

ELIAS: I am aware.

VIVIEN: And I hear you quite well. You made me laugh the other day. (Elias chuckles) Are you aware of what I'm referring to?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) We interact quite often.

VIVIEN: Yes. Sometimes I'm more aware than other times. (Elias laughs) What is it with me that sometimes I hear you so, so clearly and other times I'm struggling to get to that place where I can hear you. I'm not quite sure of what it is, but I don't think it's ... well, one part of it is I must be doubting; then there's another part of me that's extremely confident.

ELIAS: Quite. But this is the point my friend, that you allow yourself to be paying attention and therefore offer yourself a fuller expression of your movement, for you do offer yourself clear signals in relation to the moments in which you are discounting yourself, or you are creating your doubt or an expression of skepticism.

VIVIEN: (Laughs) Got to keep my feet on the ground, haven't I?

ELIAS: Ah! You also create a very strong expression of expectation in relation to yourself.

VIVIEN: Yes, I think I always have had, though.

ELIAS: And this creates a hindrance in your listening to yourself.

VIVIEN: Funny thing, because when I look back through my life to my childhood, I look back now and see that I was quite a bright little girl, I was quite talented in many, many ways, but I always had the feeling that I must have been, there's an expression "too big for your boots."

ELIAS: Yes.

VIVIEN: You know, the expression that you mustn't appear to be...

ELIAS: I am aware.

VIVIEN: ...counting of yourself as too high or being too good or thinking of yourself as better than anyone else. But when I look at it now, I can see that, yes, I might be more talented than some people at art or something else, and maybe one might be more talented than I, but it doesn't mean you're better or worse than they are.

ELIAS: Correct.

VIVIEN: It just means that you have certain leanings. But I think I still hold judgment in that area.

ELIAS: You are correct, and this creates a movement within you of false humility.

VIVIEN: Yes, it does! That's exactly what it is. But even though I'm consciously aware of that, that it is a judgment, it is a belief. Why is it so hard to let go and to release those things?

ELIAS: For they are mass beliefs.

VIVIEN: Why can't we do that with our beliefs? I suppose we can, but why don't we?

ELIAS: The expression of mass beliefs is very strong. There is much energy which is offered in mass beliefs, and this is quite familiar. And in this, you also automatically continue to move in judgment of the beliefs themselves rather than allowing yourselves to recognize the beliefs, acknowledge the beliefs, and accept the beliefs.

VIVIEN: Yes, and therefore release yourself from it.

ELIAS: Correct. But as you continue your movement, this be the reason that I continue to express to you and remind you to be paying attention in the moment, for as you practice that action, you may allow yourself to be aware in the moment that you are creating these expressions of judgment in relation to your beliefs, and you may offer yourself choice. But how shall you offer yourself choice if you are not paying attention?

VIVIEN: Yes, exactly. You get yourself stuck don't you? (Elias chuckles) It's all very interesting, this.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) I shall be acknowledging to you both. For although you may be projecting your attention away from the now, or you may be expressing doubtfulness in relation to your ability, you are continuing to offer yourselves validation of your movement, and you are continuing to be objectively participating in inserting this shift in consciousness into your actual physical reality. You are allowing yourselves to become much more familiar with yourselves and your own perceptions, and this is significant. I am aware of the challenge in this movement, but this is not to say that you are not moving.

VIVIEN: Ah, yes, we're moving all right!

ELIAS: Ha ha! Quite swiftly, are you not?

VIVIEN: Very. The acceleration is really, really powerful right now. I can feel it everywhere.

ELIAS: You are correct.

VIVIEN: With everyone, every single person that I come across there's an energy change with them which is so ... well, it's hard to explain but you FEEL it. It's like an objective sensing.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. There is a tremendous thrust in energy which is occurring and...

VIVIEN: Like you've said, it's going to be creating a lot of trauma. It already is.

ELIAS: Yes.

VIVIEN: It's everywhere now.

ELIAS: This is quite understandable. For to be accomplishing the TREMENDOUS alteration of your physical reality that you have chosen to be creating, this is almost requiring of a tremendous thrust in energy, now that you are inserting this shift into your objective reality.

VIVIEN: A whole different reality. Could I ask you one brief question? We're nearly out of time here. I hope you don't mind me asking you this. It's about my uncle in England, Peter, who's been taken very, very ill. I'm wondering if what he's experiencing is maybe the beginnings of transition?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN: Has he chosen to disengage?

ELIAS: Not presently, although this probability is being entertained.

VIVIEN: Yes. I will leave it at that. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

VIVIEN: MR, do you have anything else?

MR: Gary's mother just passed on. She's gone over to your side now. Did she have a peaceful transition?

ELIAS: I may express to you, this individual has not engaged the actual action of transition yet.

MR: I'm not sure I understand. She died last week, so...

ELIAS: This matters not.

MR: She was resisting dying, I know that. She absolutely did not ... she was not ready, and she did not want to go.

ELIAS: It matters not that the individual, or that any individual, chooses to be physically disengaging. This is not an automatic expression of moving into the action of transition, so to speak. Many times individuals are choosing to be disengaging, but also choosing to be continuing their objective imagery in similar manner to what they have created in physical focus.

VIVIEN: I could probably explain this to MR. I think we're out of time, Elias, and I know that Mary has another person for you to speak with.

ELIAS: Very well.

VIVIEN: So, thank you very, very much.

MR: Thank you very much, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I offer great encouragement to you both, and as always...

VIVIEN: Thank you so much for being around so often when I need you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. As always, in tremendous affection, au revoir.

VIVIEN: Au revoir.

Elias departs at 10:41 AM.

(1) The "birdcage analogy" can be found in Session #284, 5/30/98, page 8.

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