Tuesday, February 20, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and a new participant, Pat (Ling-Tu)
(There is no arrival time, as this session was transcribed from the audio tape only; the video cassette is damaged.)

ELIAS: Good day!

PAT: Hello! Happy Valentine's Day!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

PAT: I couldn't see you or hear you or talk to you on Valentine's Day, and missed you, so I'm saying it anyway!

ELIAS: Very well! Ha ha!

PAT: How are you?

ELIAS: As always!

PAT: I know!

ELIAS: And yourself?

PAT: I am so wonderful sometimes it's scary!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!

PAT: I am wondering if I can ask some questions? Or actually first talk about some impressions, maybe?

ELIAS: Very well.

PAT: Okay. Well, the first things I would like to talk about are essence family information on myself, my husband and my children. So I'd like to make some guesses - well, not guesses, impressions.

ELIAS: Very well.

PAT: Okay. Am I Sumari aligned with Vold?

ELIAS: Yes.

PAT: Okay! And now my husband ... who would love that I'm Sumari aligned with Vold!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

PAT: (Laughs) Okay, now my husband is tricky for me. Is he belonging to Tumold, but aligned with Milumet? (Pause)

ELIAS: Belonging to Zuli...

PAT: Really!

ELIAS: ...aligned with Milumet.

PAT: Okay! And then my daughter, Ashley, I think is belonging to Sumafi but aligned with Ilda?

ELIAS: Correct.

PAT: Correct? Excellent! And my son Dylan, who is such a character, this guy - I have some questions about him also (Elias chuckles) - is he belonging to Sumafi but aligned with Vold?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) You are correct.

PAT: Okay. And now Rachel, that little pistol, she's belonging to Sumari, aligned with Zuli?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

PAT: Excellent. Yeah, she sure shows that. (Elias chuckles) Now can I have essence names for all of us?

ELIAS: Very well. Identify each individual.

PAT: Okay, for me, for Pat.

ELIAS: Essence name, Ling-Tu, L-I-N-G hyphen T-U (ling TOO).

PAT: Okay, and my husband, Dan? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Rah, R-A-H.

PAT: Okay, and my daughter, Ashley? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Percie, P-E-R-C-I-E.

PAT: Okay, and my son, Dylan? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Cattao, C-A-T-T-A-O (kuh TOE).

PAT: And my daughter, Rachel? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Vanessa, V-A-N-E-S-S-A.

PAT: Thank you very much!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

PAT: Now, can I ask? About 25 years ago I had two incidents of what I believed at that time to be glimpses of other focuses of mine. One was a girl about ten; I think it was in Louisiana. She was ... I was sitting on a stairs, petting a puppy. My mother was a prostitute, and we were at this brothel.

ELIAS: You are correct.

PAT: Okay, great. And I think I was very happy there! (Elias chuckles) Then the second one was, I was a girl about 12 or 13, and I was hiding with someone I believed to be my uncle, under a bridge, and there were Nazis. It was during the time period of the war, and there were Nazis with barking dogs, and they were searching around. I think I was Polish.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

PAT: Okay. Very recently, I just had an impression of a nun in the sixth century in, I believe, France, in a convent. I was traveling by a horse-drawn wagon into town for food or supplies with another nun.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

PAT: Okay. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

PAT: I would like to ask, am I a final focus?

ELIAS: What is...

PAT: I believe I am.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) You are correct.

PAT: Okay! Now, can you tell me, what are these hot spots I get in my brain?

ELIAS: What is your impression?

PAT: I think I'm opening neurological pathways in my brain. It's an electrical charge that I'm getting, and it's located in various parts of my brain. I ask other people if they have that experience, and they look at me like I'm crazy! (Laughing, and Elias laughs)

ELIAS: I may express to you, you are correct in your impression concerning this action, as this is what you may term to be a symptom, so to speak, of opening new neurological pathways in allowing yourself to be widening your awareness.

I have spoken with other individuals previously of similar types of manifestations in relation to opening neurological pathways, and in each situation that any individual is engaging this type of action, they do create a physical manifestation which is affecting of certain areas within your actual physical brain.

PAT: Okay. I like it!

ELIAS: HA HA HA HA! (Pat laughs also)

PAT: I've learned to like it! (Elias chuckles) I have a question: am I in transition? The impression I have ... you know, I broke my collarbone a number of years ago, and I was wondering if that was a defining moment for that?

ELIAS: Subsequent to that event, yes, you have created the choice to be engaging transition within this focus.

PAT: That broken collarbone was interesting imagery that I gave myself. (Elias laughs) It forced me to sit down and pay attention!

ELIAS: Ah!

PAT: Yeah. I don't like getting my own attention that way. It was painful! (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! But effective!

PAT: Okay, I have another question. I know that one of the large belief systems that I'm dealing with are around issues of parenting. So my little guy Dylan, can you tell me why is he so afraid of water? Has he a focus that has drowned? (Pause)

ELIAS: Ah; no. This individual does engage in another focus of essence which is witness to a drowning, but has not actually engaged that action himself.

PAT: Okay. Boy, because he seems like he's a fearful kid. He's afraid of a lot of things, and he's just very sensitive. Now, does he have another focus involved in the movie business?

ELIAS: Theater.

PAT: Theater?

ELIAS: Correct.

PAT: Mmm. Okay! Thank you very much! Can I ask you if you know what he is doing when he does this thing that we call snapping and slapping? Where he paces the room, like his bedroom, and he snaps his fingers and slaps and uses his imagination ... and we find it kind of odd! (Laughing) But can you ... 'cause he can never explain what he sees or what he is doing. Can you explain that?

ELIAS: Let me express to you, this also moves in relation to what you view as fearfulness, for this individual has chosen to be manifest within a movement of this shift in consciousness in which he allows himself an openness of awareness concerning consciousness and concerning this shift in consciousness, but is not objectively defining to himself what he is engaging or questioning his interactions and his own inner knowings in his individual manifestation, for he participates with other individuals that express beliefs and associations that do not quite fit with his recognition of reality.

Therefore, this creates a confusion within himself and an automatic discounting of himself, for he recognizes his interactions and his participation with other aspects of consciousness, but creates an inability to justify that action and participation to himself in objective terms, for expressions outside of himself, in alignment with established beliefs, discount the types of knowings, interactions, and participations that he engages. Therefore this creates confusion within himself, and manifests in an expression of fear in relation to his own discounting of his abilities and his interactions and his inability presently to justify his interactions objectively to himself or in relation to other individuals.

Now; within these particular time frameworks that you are identifying, he is attempting to be balancing both realms, so to speak - that which is familiar to him within consciousness and his own openness within this shift in consciousness and all that may be presented through this shift in consciousness, and his recognition that he is participating in this physical reality which does express very strongly held belief systems. Therefore, in these moments he is attempting to balance both aspects of reality, and this presents a challenge.

PAT: The subjective and the objective, correct?

ELIAS: Not necessarily, for within this shift in consciousness, allowing yourself the insertion of this shift in consciousness into the objective reality, it becomes objective, and is no longer merely expressed through the subjective awareness.

This in actuality is the reason that I have expressed information to individuals within this forum, for this type of action many times is creating trauma within individuals in their attempt to be acknowledging and moving into an objective expression of this shift in consciousness and all that is implied within that action, and balancing that with what is familiar and known within your physical reality.

PAT: Okay. Is there something that I can do to be of help to him in the balancing of that?

ELIAS: You may be expressing acceptance. In allowing yourself to be concentrating your attention upon you, and therefore not attempting to be fixing or altering his expressions and choices, this shall be offering an energy of acceptance, which may be in actuality helpful in allowing himself to relax in what he is engaging.

What he is engaging is not what you define as imagination. It is quite real.

PAT: Right. I get the sense of that from him. I always get the sense that he's attempting to create something objectively out of thin air, but doesn't know how to do that (Elias chuckles).

ELIAS: I am understanding, and in this, this IS an aspect of this shift in consciousness, allowing yourselves the ability to be creating what you want, even in the situations that it appears to be impossible.

PAT: Okay. Thank you very much for that.

ELIAS: But let me express to you, this is the nature of the conflict, for he associates with the officially accepted reality in this physical dimension, which expresses that there are some actions that are impossible, and he knows differently.

PAT: Okay; thank you for that.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

PAT: I have another question. Sometimes I will be listening to music, and it will make me shiver up and down my body as if I'm feeling the music as opposed to listening to the music, hearing it. Is this an exercise in mergence, or is that using the empathic sense?

ELIAS: You are allowing yourself to be engaging your empathic sense, and in that action, you are allowing yourself to merge with the tones.

PAT: I love that! That feels wonderful to me! (Elias chuckles) I'm going to keep practicing that.

ELIAS: This is also an action of widening your awareness and allowing you a fuller appreciation of all that you create within this physical dimension.

PAT: Actually, I think that I move into the area of wanting to use my empathic sense more. Is that part of aligning with Vold, or just my preference?

ELIAS: It is a preference, and it is expressed as an ease in quality in relation to this particular family.

PAT: I dig it!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

PAT: (Laughing) It feels great!

(At this point, static starts on the audiotape.)

Okay, I have another question. I seem to be drawn to people and experiences of what we in physical focus would consider to be of quite some intensity or negativity. However, it doesn't seem as if I'm the person having the first-hand intense experience, but rather like I draw the relationship to me so that I can view it or share in it, for instance with my daughter Ashley's father and his drug addiction, or my father and his illness, his creation of illnesses within his body. Would that be true of me?

ELIAS: You draw yourself to these individuals and these experiences to be offering yourself an expression of excitement and challenge, which creates a stimulation within you. For you, in actuality, in relation to all other individuals that you encounter or draw to yourself, express this preference, so to speak, in offering yourself challenge in the manner in which you may view and to some extent participate in the creations of other individuals, and allow yourself to create a different and unique perception concerning the choices of other individuals; which is, in actuality, the avenue which you have chosen as your intent in this particular focus, which shall be beneficial to you in offering you a manner in which you shall express your own unique method of movement into acceptance of yourself and of other individuals.

PAT: (The static noise increases.) It felt like that, because especially with Ashley's father, who in our culture we don't approve of drug addiction, yet it was a very wonderful worthwhile experience and relationship for me to have. I felt like I did a lot of widening of my own awareness and acceptance through that relationship. Was that counterpart action between him and I?

ELIAS: No. You did not engage a counterpart action with this individual, but have purposefully drawn yourself to this individual for the experience of widening your awareness and allowing yourself more of an ease in recognizing differences in individuals, and recognizing that each individual creates choices regardless of the association of society or the associations of right and wrong or good or bad. You allow yourself to view the actions of other individuals as merely choices, and this is what has been beneficial to you in movement into acceptance.

PAT: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

PAT: Okay. May I ask you some dreams?

ELIAS: You may.

PAT: (The static continues to grow in intensity.) But first off, why don't I seem to remember many of my dreams? Is it just fear, or sometimes I feel like I'm listening to whether or not my children need me. Do you understand what I'm saying?

ELIAS: Yes.

PAT: I feel like I'm not sleeping deeply.

ELIAS: I understand what you are expressing. Let me offer to you, it is unnecessary for you to be engaging what YOU term to be a deepness of sleep to be creating dream imagery. This is a belief system.

I may express to you, you do engage subjective activity, and you also create dream imagery in relation to that subjective activity, but you offer yourself...

PAT: (The static almost completely overwhelms Pat's question.) I tend to surround myself more with objective imagery versus subjective?

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes, for you offer yourself an acceptance and a reception of the message that you are offering to yourself within your dream imagery, and therefore many times it is unnecessary for your objective recall of the actual dream imagery, for you translate that dream imagery into objective waking imagery. (Pause)

PAT: (Loud static continues) Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. May I offer a suggestion to you, my friend?

PAT: Okay.

ELIAS: (Static stops) I may express to you (chuckling) a recognition within this conversation (laughs gently) that you are expressing a tremendous output, so to speak, of intensity of energy in excitement.

PAT: Yeah!! (Laughing)

ELIAS: And in this, you are also creating an interference of energy in the transmission of your electrical equipment. Ha ha ha!

PAT: I do this all the time! I do it to computers, too! (Elias laughs) I like to feel powerful, I guess!

ELIAS: (Laughs) You may be noticing as you receive your physical taping of this conversation that within the moments that you allow yourself the expression of laughter and a relaxation of your energy, the transmission becomes much clearer! Ha ha ha!

PAT: Yes! (Laughing) Okay, I'm noticing! (Elias laughs) Thank you!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome, my friend! (Laughing, and Pat laughs)

PAT: Okay, now you're just laughing at me!

ELIAS: Ah! With you, my friend!

PAT: Yes, with me. (Elias laughs) Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

PAT: I just feel you so strongly, thank you. (Emotionally)

ELIAS: Ha ha! I am quite present with you, my friend, and may express to you in genuineness the pleasure in this interaction, and the recognition of your genuine joyfulness in your expression of your focus and your exploration of all that you create. I may express to you, it may be quite exhilarating. I am genuinely acknowledging of you, and offering a tremendous expression of energy in encouragement to you.

PAT: Thank you very much!

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

PAT: It feels good to be me! (Elias laughs)

May I ask you, I had this wacky dream that I was watching a television program. It was called "Fabulous at 47." (Laughs) And I happen to be 47 years old, and it was all of these different famous people talking about how wonderful it was to be 47 years old, and when I woke up the only person I could remember from the dream was an actress, an Asian actress, named Ming-Na and the thing is, she's not even 47! (Laughing, and Elias laughs) She's much younger than that, but she was the only person I could remember!

ELIAS: Ah, and this is the acknowledgment to yourself. It is not your physical age that enamors you and offers you this tremendous appreciation of self, but your recognition of your self and your genuine expression of affection in relation to yourself.

I may express to you tremendous acknowledgment, for you have allowed yourself a movement which many individuals seek within this time framework and in this action of this shift in creating a relationship with you and recognizing the wondrous fulfillment and appreciation that accompanies that type of creation in relationship with yourself.

PAT: Yes, it feels wonderful. I'm so joyous most all of the time!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha!

PAT: I like that.

ELIAS: And this, my friend, provides a wondrous example to other individuals.

PAT: Thank you for that. I know people want to have what I have! (Elias laughs) And I tell them they may, but they don't believe me! (Laughing)

Okay, then I had this other dream. I told Mary, Michael, that I had been reading many of the sessions concerning sexuality and preference, and also that you are always saying in the sessions be noticing of blue; so then that night I dreamt of my husband sitting on the edge of the bed putting on a blue condom! (Elias cracks up) And on our dresser there was a blue dildo! Now, was that you being silly, or was that just me being playful?

ELIAS: It is an interaction of playfulness between us. (Laughing)

PAT: I love it! It was so funny! And so wonderful, thank you! (Laughing)

ELIAS: It is your choice of the imagery. It is my offering of the color! (Pat laughs)

PAT: Okay, well, I liked the imagery, thank you! (Elias laughs) I enjoyed that very much.

May I ask also essence names for my friend Melissa? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Adelle, A-D-E-L-L-E (ah DEL).

PAT: Thank you, and for my friend Patty? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Dornn, D-O-R-N-N.

PAT: Thank you, and my boss Julie, please? (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Emmeral, E-M-M-E-R-A-L (EM mer all).

PAT: Thank you so much. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

PAT: I have a question also. I always have drawn myself to bosses who are so wonderful to me, particularly Julie, but also another gentleman, Bill D., who I worked for for 17 years who was as a father figure to me. What is my connection to him, please?

ELIAS: I may express to you, you have participated in several other focuses with each of these individuals. I may also express to you that within this particular focus you quite purposefully draw yourself to these individuals in allowing yourself the expression of creating this type of relationship, which allows you an environment in which you may freely express yourself in the manner which is most comfortable.

PAT: Clever, huh?

ELIAS: Ha ha, creative!

PAT: I love that! (Elias chuckles) Thank you so much for that also.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

PAT: Okay! I should just continue doing the exercises in order to access other focuses?

ELIAS: If you are so choosing.

PAT: Yes, I am, and can you tell me how many focuses I have within this dimension?

ELIAS: Total numbering of focus within this physical dimension, 862.

PAT: Eight hundred and sixty-two?

ELIAS: Correct.

PAT: Wow, that's a lot. And ones that are easily accessed by me in tone, please?

ELIAS: Two hundred four.

PAT: Two hundred and four. Well, I thank you very much for that.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. Much to keep you busy!

PAT: I may be doing some more investigating on my own, 'cause I don't want you to have to pull out the crystal ball! (Elias laughs and so does Pat)

ELIAS: Ah!

PAT: And so ... but yes I do! I'm sorry! Can you tell me please that within my friend Lisa's pool of probabilities right now, whether she will have a biological child?

ELIAS: Express to me, first of all, your impression. Allow yourself to access your inner voice.

PAT: I don't think she will.

ELIAS: And I shall express to you that we shall allow this to stand, presently.

PAT: Okay, well, thank you. I want to offer help to her within energy, and I know I should do so by being the straight little sapling.

ELIAS: Quite! You are correct!

PAT: I know; I know that, so I will continue to do that. But I do love her so much, and I will try and respect her choice of creation of reality. It's hard sometimes! (Laughing) Especially when you feel yourself to be such a powerful being! (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: And so you are!

PAT: I know!

ELIAS: But you are powerful within YOUR creation of reality.

PAT: Yes, indeed. (Laughing) It's hard for me with my own children!

Can you tell me, between my daughter Ashley and I ... this is very interesting for me because I almost feel as if she and I have a closeness that I don't share with my husband and my other two children, but I feel that they - my husband and the other two children - possess a closeness.

ELIAS: You are correct.

PAT: That's correct? And why would that be?

ELIAS: And what is your impression? Ha ha ha ha!

PAT: I KNEW you were gonna say that! (Laughing, and Elias laughs)

ELIAS: Ah! You are so very psychic! (Laughing)

PAT: Look out! I may be interrupting the transmission again!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha!

PAT: Too much energy! I think that Ashley and I have shared many focuses together.

ELIAS: You are correct.

PAT: And are there any that I may access easily?

ELIAS: Several.

PAT: Several, okay. Well, I sure am enjoying the one I'm having right here, right now, with her. (Elias laughs) She's awesome! Okay, I have a question: in a former focus was she my mother?

ELIAS: Yes.

PAT: Yes, she was, I knew that! She acts like my mother now, sometimes! (Laughing, and Elias laughs) And sometimes I let her!

Well, you know, I think that might be all for now, although I hate to go because it's so wonderful to be here with you! (Elias laughs) But I guess I could just do that any old time, right?

ELIAS: Ah, you are quite correct! Ha ha ha!

PAT: I know! I need to be practicing at that. You will show me blue, right, so I know it's you?

ELIAS: Quite, and I shall...

PAT: No more blue condoms, though, okay? (Laughing)

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I shall offer to you a playful energy...

PAT: Okay, I accept that!

ELIAS: ...for I am recognizing of your appreciation of this type of expression. (Laughs)

PAT: You're fun! Thank you.

ELIAS: And we shall continue to be engaging fun together, my friend.

PAT: Oh good, I hope so, and I will talk with you soon.

ELIAS: I anticipate our continued interaction, and our next meeting.

PAT: Okay. You know, I know that I know you. Have you and I shared focuses?

ELIAS: Yes. (Chuckling)

PAT: Yes, we have! Ooo, did I love you deeply? (Elias cracks up)

ELIAS: I may express to you, yes, but not in the capacity of a lover. (Laughs)

PAT: Oh, bummer! That would have been fun! (Elias laughs) Well, my thanks to you, Elias, so much. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend.

PAT: And I will speak with you soon.

ELIAS: Very well. To you in tremendous affection, au revoir.

PAT: Au revoir. I LOVE him!


(c)2002 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved

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Copyright 2001 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved.