Tuesday, January 30, 2001 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Lou (Barrah).
Elias arrives at 2:17 PM. (Arrival time is 21 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

LOU: Hello, my friend! How are you today?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! As always, and yourself?

LOU: I’m doing very good. (Elias chuckles) And my essence name? (Elias laughs) Just checking!

ELIAS: You may express to myself!

LOU: Barrah.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!

LOU: And I’m sure it still remains, right?

ELIAS: (Chuckling) And you are correct.

LOU: First, I’d like to ask you for my friend Karen, her essence name, family, alignment and orientation. (Pause)

ELIAS: Essence name, Luet, L-U-E-T (loot).

LOU: Thank you.

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Vold; orientation, common.

LOU: Okay. My next question is, I’m trying to figure out my maze of creative creations with some family members and some friends (laughing). I’d like to know their family, alignment and orientations - not their essence names, just those three. The first one is Valerie.

ELIAS: First express to me your impressions concerning each of these individuals, and I shall validate or correct.

LOU: Oh boy!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

LOU: I passed, huh?

ELIAS: Offering you the opportunity to practice with your impressions.

LOU: That was the whole reason of me asking this. Valerie ... I get an impression of Vold, but it could be Sumafi. I’m not sure.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) I may express to you essence family is Vold; alignment, Milumet.

LOU: Ah! That makes sense now. Orientation?

ELIAS: Common.

LOU: Thank you. Chris, my son: Sumari comes to mind. Alignment, I’m at a loss on that one; common for sure. (Elias chuckles) Am I close?

ELIAS: I may express to you essence family, Tumold. Alignment is Sumari, and the orientation is correct, common.

LOU: Okay, Alli - Milumet with Vold, and soft?

ELIAS: Borledim/Vold.

LOU: Borledim/Vold, okay.

ELIAS: Soft; yes, you are correct.

LOU: My mother - boy, that’s a tough one. Sumari, common ... I’m not sure about the others.

ELIAS: (Chuckling) Sumari/Ilda; common, you are correct.

LOU: Okay, my dad. I know there’s some Sumafi there; Sumari, common.

ELIAS: Sumafi/Zuli, common.

LOU: Ah! Oh, I didn’t catch my mom. Was that common?

ELIAS: Yes.

LOU: Okay, thank you. Now, my sister Mary ... this is a tough one for me. I would say Sumari/Milumet?

ELIAS: Reverse.

LOU: Oh! Okay. And her orientation would be common?

ELIAS: Yes.

LOU: Now Cindy - Vold/Milumet, common.

ELIAS: Zuli/Vold, common.

LOU: Ah, that makes sense. Thank you, Elias. (Elias laughs) And so I continue with the puzzle!

I have a question to ask you. It seems as if I’m on a roller coaster ride, especially this last year. It’s been unlike anything I’ve experienced.

ELIAS: Ah! You and many other individuals! (Laughing)

LOU: I think so. For most of my life I’ve always been around people and family, either in relationships, intimate relationships, or with relatives or whatever, but I’ve never experienced an aloneness with myself for such lengths of periods of time that I’ve experienced this last year. I feel a strength because of it, but then again it can be draining to me sometimes emotionally. And I know I’m Sumari/Milumet, so I understand the aloneness expression through the Milumet but ... do you have any comments on that?

ELIAS: I may express to you as I have to other individuals, this time framework, as you have entered into your new millennium and [are] inserting this shift in consciousness into your objective reality, is significant; and in a manner of speaking, this movement is almost requiring individuals to be turning their attentions to self.

Now; this may be expressed in many different manners dependent upon the individual and their choice of how they shall be accomplishing this turning of perception, but the point is that individuals are moving into more of a recognition of self and creating a new understanding and familiarity in relationship to self. For as you move in conjunction with this shift in consciousness in allowing yourselves to move into a genuine expression of acceptance of self, you must begin with a genuine familiarity of self.

Now; in relation to your beliefs and your familiar movements in creating your reality and the definitions of certain aspects of your reality that you have held to this point, you also move into this type of expression of becoming more familiar objectively with self and creating this relationship, so to speak, with self in a manner which is similar to the familiarity of creating a relationship with another individual.

In creating a relationship with another individual, for a time framework you concentrate your attention upon that individual, acquiring information and becoming familiar with how they create their reality, and familiarizing yourself with their perception. Correct?

LOU: Yes.

ELIAS: Therefore, in moving into a familiarity with self and creating a relationship with self, you express quite similarly. Many individuals are experiencing this type of movement in this time framework, or have been moving into this type of direction of their attention throughout your time framework of your past year.

LOU: Can I comment?

ELIAS: You may.

LOU: What I’m feeling through my expression with relationships - and I’ve attempted relationships - is I feel an anxiousness within myself being in the relationship; not being comfortable within the relationship, but wanting to put myself out of the relationship back into myself. Does that make sense?

ELIAS: Yes, and this is what we are discussing presently, that you attempt to be interactive with other individuals, focusing your attention upon them, as that is a familiar action for your engagement.

But the pull that you are experiencing is a communication that you are offering to yourself, expressing to yourself that this is in actuality NOT the expression that you wish to be creating, that your attention is being beckoned to yourself; and you are beginning allowing yourself to realize in objective terms that to be creating an intimate relationship with self requires the same attention - and more - and the type of concentration and exploration that you would offer to another individual, but to be offered to yourself.

Now; as you do incorporate a reality, or a physical dimension, that involves itself with linear time, as you create a relationship in intimacy with self and allow yourself to explore and become familiar with your own individual reality, you also incorporate a time element to be accomplishing that action, for all of your movement within this physical dimension is created in relation to your association with time. Therefore, if you are not spending time, in your terms, with yourself and allowing yourself to pay attention to self, you are not allowing yourself to become familiar with you.

And as this is in actuality the point in this shift in consciousness, you are now moving into objective expressions of creating a new reality. In order to create this new reality, you also, in a manner of speaking, must be turning your attention to self and not continuing in the familiar action of holding your attention outside of yourself in relation to other individuals.

LOU: Can I stop you for a minute?

ELIAS: You may.

LOU: That brings up an important question. Will I ever - now that I’m into this mode - will I ever feel comfortable in a relationship, or will my perception have to change in order to feel a comfortableness in a relationship?

ELIAS: Your perception is already changing.

LOU: Okay.

ELIAS: In this, in your movement as you become more familiar with self and move yourself into a genuine expression of acceptance of self and trust, yes, you shall move in the direction of creating relationships with other individuals which shall be expressed in more intimacy and fullness than you have allowed yourself previously, for this is a natural by-product of turning your attention to self.

LOU: I see. I’m relating to your story, the counterpart story of the little white cloud, and I can really relate to that. At times I feel like the little white cloud, and I can get very bored with that, and then I need the storm cloud to come make some action for myself, so I’m relating to that story and my physical objectiveness. Does it have something to do with my Milumet alignment?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. This is your recognition of yourself, and allowing yourself to become objectively aware of how you create your reality in certain situations and what you draw to yourself in particular types of expressions, recognizing that at times you draw expressions to yourself to be creating that excitement or curiosity, or to be offering yourself new motivations in continuing with your exploration.

LOU: I’m also experiencing my noticing of my judgments, and especially here recently in relation to extremes of duplicity. I’m wondering about this judgment thingy, the judgment verses non-judgment. At times to me non-judgmental seems just plain boring. Does that make sense?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha!

LOU: I like the opposites. Sometimes it gives an excitement, as I’ve told you before.

ELIAS: Quite. I am understanding of what you are expressing.

Now; let me express to you, the reason that you become bored without the incorporation of excitement associated with judgment is that you have not yet allowed yourself movement outside of the automatic association of the lack of judgment. You view this neutrality in the lack of judgment to be boring for this is familiar to you, and you objectively know not how to be exploring your reality incorporating excitement without that familiar expression.

But as you move more into your own recognition of self, and you allow yourself more of an acceptance and are not incorporating the expression of judgment, you may begin the realization objectively that this offers you a tremendous freedom to be exploring other avenues of creating your reality which do not require judgment to be incorporating excitement.

LOU: I see. So how does that relation between a non-judgment within my relationships ... how do I go about incorporating ... I mean, can you give me some sort of practice situation that I could put myself in? I know accepting myself, but ... do you know what I mean?

ELIAS: Offer an example of a situation, and we shall discuss it in relation to your example.

LOU: Okay. Say I see a person doing something. They’re doing something I don’t think is correct, so I make a judgment. Then I have a choice here. I can either be polite about it, but I have also made the judgment. So within that, if I make that judgment, I feel that within the relationship with that person they will almost expect me to make a response that is judgmental. How do I go about releasing myself from that mode?

ELIAS: Now; let us examine more specifically. Choose an actual or hypothetical situation in specific of an action that another individual may create that you shall create a judgment concerning.

LOU: Okay. Say this person is saying inflammatory remarks about myself - you know, they are making judgments. They are making bitter remarks towards myself.

ELIAS: Very well.

LOU: I come back with a response also in judgment, knowing that I’m in judgment, and then I also judge myself in that judgment to the point where I feel bad.

ELIAS: Correct.

LOU: You know what I mean?

ELIAS: And therefore you have created a circle.

LOU: Exactly. I’m stuck in the circle.

ELIAS: Very well. Now; in this hypothetical situation, allow yourself to view all that is being created - and you may in actuality practice with this method, so to speak, each time you recognize that this type of situation is in occurrence. Your attention, first of all, is directed outside of yourself; therefore the first noticing that you shall present yourself with is the other individual.

LOU: Right.

ELIAS: This is not to say that this is, in actuality, the first action that is occurring. But this is the area of your attention, therefore this is the first expression that you notice.

In viewing this, let us examine what you associate as the sequence of events. The other individual creates an expression of judgment, you respond in another expression of judgment, and subsequently you respond to yourself in judgment of yourself.

Now; let us examine what is ACTUALLY occurring in this scenario. What is actually occurring in this scenario is that you are projecting energy, and in the projection of that energy you draw to yourself, or create, a scenario of reflection. You present yourself with another individual, and they are the reflection. They provide you with a reflection of you, of what you are already creating.

Now; as you view the reflection or the expression of the other individual, and you receive that expression, you offer yourself choice. But you also do not offer yourself choice, for you are not noticing what is occurring in actuality, and therefore you are creating an automatic response. Your automatic response is to be expressing in judgmental terms in return.

Now; what is actually occurring in your response is defense.

LOU: Yes.

ELIAS: The expression of defense is a protection. It is camouflaged with the judgment in the direction of the other individual and THEIR expression. You have already camouflaged and turned your perception in alignment with your protection.

Now; subsequent to the engagement, there is a questioning within yourself as to why you have created that interaction, and your response to yourself in that questioning is to be discounting of yourself, and therefore you create another judgment upon self.

Now; you do not necessarily offer yourself a genuine response to the question of why you have created that interaction. The response that you do offer to yourself is an automatic response, which is not an answer. It is an association, and your automatic response is the discounting of yourself: I am not wide enough, I am not understanding enough, I am not patient enough, I am creating automatic responses and therefore I am not in tuned enough with myself. These are your automatic responses to the question of "why have I engaged this type of interaction?"

Now; in actuality, all of that interaction sprang from you. Therefore in these types of situations, you may be offering yourself what you may term to be your "shortcut" (laughs) in paying attention to self; and as you engage an interaction with another individual, as you allow yourself to pay attention and notice, the identification [is] that whatever the other individual is expressing to you is a reflection of what you are creating.

Therefore, if the other individual is expressing a judgment...

LOU: Then I am also creating a judgment.

ELIAS: ...you are already creating the judgment, and you are offering yourself the opportunity to view that through the reflection of the other individual’s expression.

Once you allow yourself to notice that reflection rather than expressing to yourself the automatic question of "why am I expressing this or engaging this action" - for you shall also offer to yourself automatic responses to that familiar question - turn your attention in that moment to be examining what you are creating within yourself.

LOU: So as far as this creation, this scenario creation of judgment that I’ve created with this other person who is me, I’m viewing it but I’m also presenting to myself automatic responses, judgments, to myself and a higher judgment to myself in regards to that of the creation itself.

ELIAS: Correct. Now...

LOU: Then what am I to do? Just be quiet, or keep my mouth shut? (Laughs)

ELIAS: I may express to you that as you turn your attention, this may be not boring at all but quite fascinating in holding your attention upon self without the involvement of judgment, for this is a quite unfamiliar action...

LOU: Yes, it is.

ELIAS: ...to be stopping your automatic responses, to be not engaging a response to the other individual, but to be turning your attention to self and exploring within self what YOU are creating, what your communications are in the moment that you are offering to yourself. And in that, as you begin the identification of what you yourself are creating, you also offer to yourself the challenge of responding to the other individual in different, creative manners.

There are many actions that are occurring in this type of scenario, all simultaneously, and this is quite a challenge for your attention to be engaging, for it is quite unfamiliar. But...

LOU: So it would behoove me to take a moment of silence within myself, to view within myself without an automatic response, view within myself this creation that I’ve created in judgment.

ELIAS: Quite, AND recognize what your automatic response is. Acknowledge that for it shall be presented, for that is the familiar expression. Therefore...

LOU: It kind of floats up in my mind, right, that automatic response?

ELIAS: Correct. And in this, do not attempt to be pushing away the automatic response, but rather allow yourself to be acknowledging of that and turning your attention to be examining your automatic response and what is motivating that within you.

LOU: Okay, and that will create a change in perception.

ELIAS: Correct.

LOU: And once I change my perception, then the other individual will also change, because they are me!

ELIAS: Correct. It is a by-product of your expression.

LOU: So it would behoove me to just take a moment of maybe ... a respite moment that would allow me to gather my senses. (Laughing)

ELIAS: Correct! (Laughs)

LOU: Would that behoove me?

ELIAS: Yes!

LOU: Okay. Thank you, Elias. I have another question. My name Barrah, the essence name Barrah - for some reason, I can’t connect with it. Do you have a comment on that?

ELIAS: I may express to you, as you allow yourself - in like manner to our discussion throughout this conversation - to be becoming more familiar with you and creating this relationship in intimacy with yourself, you may also be altering your perception concerning this tone. You express little association with it for you have viewed yourself in this focus as separate from your essence as an entity.

LOU: I see.

ELIAS: Now; I may express to you also, in actuality it matters not. You need not be creating an affinity with this particular tone or name. It is merely a tone that is, in a manner of speaking, the summation of all of the focuses of your essence; but the name, as the translation of the tone into a physical word that may be expressed in your physical dimension, in actuality matters not. For be remembering, this is a physical translation which is expressed merely in your physical dimension. It is not, in actuality, what may be expressed as accurate entirely. It is a translation.

LOU: I see. Thank you, Elias. I’m also looking for a way to get my book started. It’s always been a dream of mine. I’m common, and I’m reading different authors and writing styles, and I want to come up with my own that is unique. And so I feel, within my beliefs, that I need to do some prep work in order to do this. But also I’m aware that I have a vision that I want to create within this book that will amaze not only other people but myself. I haven’t connected with a vision. I’m not sure how to go about it. Do you have any comments on that?

ELIAS: And this also, in keeping with the theme of our discussion this day, is an aspect of the process that you are engaging in this time framework.

You are allowing yourself to become more familiar with you, and as you turn your attention from outside of you, you shall also offer yourself new insights, so to speak, as to your own experience, how you create your reality, and your translations within your reality; and in that movement, you shall also begin dropping the veil of separation, and as you create that movement, you may be presenting yourself with your vision, so to speak. (Laughing)

LOU: Okay. How many focuses do I have in this time period presently? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yourself included, seven.

LOU: Seven, okay. Are there any focuses that live near me, or close to me, presently?

ELIAS: No.

LOU: No. Now, is my focus a beginning, developmental, or final focus? I know it’s not final; you’ve already told me that.

ELIAS: Developmental.

LOU: Ah, okay! Now, am I a political, thought, emotion, or religious focus? I relate to religious and political...

ELIAS: And I shall express...

LOU: ...and also to thought.

ELIAS: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

LOU: What is your impression?

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha! I may express to you be practicing more often, my friend, in your communication to self! (Laughing) I express to you that you incorporate emotional focus.

LOU: Of what? Excuse me?

ELIAS: Emotional focus.

LOU: Emotional focus? Oh! Whew!

ELIAS: HA HA HA HA HA!

LOU: All right! Okay! Thank you, "E"! That’s me!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!

LOU: Okay, now can we do some Game?

ELIAS: If you are so choosing!

LOU: Okay. Waves of Consciousness of the ten belief systems: "certain senses," Zuli? (Pause)

ELIAS: Less probable.

LOU: Ah, okay, thank you. Well, can I make another guess?

ELIAS: HA HA HA HA!

LOU: Gramada?

ELIAS: Ah! And I shall express to you that these are guesses and not impressions. (Laughing)

LOU: Okay, thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome, my friend! Practice with your impressions.

LOU: Okay. Let’s say in the category of Occupations: electrician, Sumari. (Pause)

ELIAS: Less probable.

LOU: Ah! Okay. In the category of Religions: Catholic, Borledim? (Pause)

ELIAS: Less probable.

LOU: Oh. Amusement Rides...

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

LOU: ...roller coaster, Sumari? (Lou and Elias laugh)

ELIAS: Ah, my friend, you ARE guessing!

LOU: Okay, I see, well ... in the area of Artists: John Lennon, Sumari? (Elias chuckles) Again?

ELIAS: HA HA HA HA HA! Let me express to you, my friend, allow yourself a time framework to be viewing this game quietly. And in viewing the categories of this game, allow yourself an openness to your own communication, not an expression of rationale or logic.

LOU: Oh, I see.

ELIAS: Allow yourself...

LOU: Most of my interpretations have been rationale or logic.

ELIAS: Yes. Allow yourself a free flow of energy and listening to yourself, and in this, as you offer yourself an impression, recognize that the impression may or may not be expressed in a category that is already in existence.

LOU: Oh! I see. Okay, very well.

I have a question for my friend Lupele. She wishes to know if this is her last focus. (Pause)

ELIAS: As the identification of the designated final focus?

LOU: Yes.

ELIAS: The individual is not the designated final focus, but I may express to you that the designated final focus of that essence is manifest in this time framework.

Therefore, there is a question as to the direction of manifestation in continuing within this physical dimension. For at the point of disengagement of that focus, this focus shall be, in a manner of speaking, required to also disengage, or fragment and continue within this experience of this physical dimension. This is the choice that is presented within her focus.

LOU: I see. I have another question. Has that ever happened in my focus presently, that situation that you just described?

ELIAS: No.

LOU: No?

ELIAS: No.

LOU: Okay, all right. Thank you. Well, my friend, I think that’s all the questions that I have. (Elias chuckles) Thank you very much.

ELIAS: And much to be practicing with, have you not? Ha ha ha!

LOU: Yes, The Game! I like that, and I enjoy The Game. It’s a lot of fun.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! And I shall be encouraging of you to be practicing with your impressions, and I shall be offering energy to you in encouragement of your movement and exploration in your "method" in paying attention to yourself within your interactions with other individuals. I am aware of the challenge that is presented in these scenarios.

LOU: Yes, it can be most confusing when you realize that you create your reality, yet it has not taken hold within me, the actual presentation of it. Sometimes I get caught up objectively within the world and the people about me, and I forget that they are my creations. But it is so easy to follow automatic responses and make judgments in that respect.

ELIAS: Quite. Let me offer to you, my friend, an expression that you may draw upon and be remembering of in these situations. Each time you are expressing a judgment toward another individual, in actuality you are creating that judgment upon self.

LOU: I see. That would bring me back into focus...

ELIAS: Correct.

LOU: ...within self. Very good. Well, thank you, my friend.

ELIAS: I offer to you great affection and friendship.

LOU: Thank you.

ELIAS: And I anticipate our next meeting, in your terms, with more successfulness in your impressions. Ha ha ha ha ha!

LOU: And maybe I MAY get a point!

ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! There is tremendous potential! (Chuckling)

LOU: (Laughs) Thank you, my friend.

ELIAS: Ha ha ha! I express to you great lovingness this day, and you may offer my greetings also to your friend.

LOU: Yes, I will.

ELIAS: To you in tremendous affection, au revoir.

LOU: Thank you.

Elias departs at 3:11 PM.

(1) Refer to , 10/6/96.


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