Thursday, January 11, 2001-2 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and John (Vito).
Elias arrives at 12:53 PM. (Arrival time is 21 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good morning!

JOHN:  Good morning, Elias!

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  We meet again, my friend!

JOHN:  Yes sir!

ELIAS:  Ha ha!  And how shall we proceed?

JOHN:  Alright, we’ll jump right in with both feet here. (Elias chuckles)  I was explaining to Mary just before, I feel like I’ve corkscrewed myself into the ground somehow or whatnot.  I just want to find out what’s going on with me right now, just in a general sense.

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  And I shall pose to you that you express more of a specification of your direction, and we shall examine your movement.

JOHN:  Let’s see.  I don’t know.  I just feel like I’m not ... I don’t know if I’m not noticing enough, or ... I was telling Mary as well, I’ve just gone through a series of ... you know, my emotions just go all over the place, and it’s like I feel like I’m scattered and that I’m not ... I don’t know, whatever it is I’m supposed to be heading towards or whatnot, you know?

You talk about the ease of just relaxing and letting it be, and I just feel like I’m on the other end of that and just ... I’m always trying to analyze and see what’s going on.  I’m not ... I don’t feel like I’m getting a payoff for what I’m trying to do.  I feel that I’m noticing and whatnot, but I just feel a little scattered, I guess you could say.

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  I am understanding.

Now; let us define what you are engaging and what is occurring within your reality, and how this is creating the perception that you hold, and how that is creating this situation within your reality.

In this, I shall express to you first of all, you ARE noticing.  You are noticing some aspects of your reality.  You are noticing signals that you are creating.  You are noticing physical manifestations and what you view to be some information which you are drawing to yourself, and you are paying attention to those particular expressions and areas of noticing.

In this, you attempt to be incorporating information to be offering yourself an explanation of what you are creating and what you are noticing, but in this, you are also engaging your thought process in a manner which merely creates confusion.

JOHN:  Yeah, I got that down, no problem!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Now; the reason that you are incorporating this expression of confusion is that you are incorporating the action of thought and the processes of thought in a manner for which it is in actuality not been designed.

JOHN:  (Laughing)  Okay! (Elias chuckles)

ELIAS:  Now; what you have moved yourself into is a very similar position to many other individuals presently, and I may express to you an acknowledgment that you are allowing yourself a concentration of movement in widening your awareness, and quite in conjunction with this shift in consciousness.  I am aware that within your perception, you do not view this same action, and you define what you are engaging as a lack of movement.  But in actuality, you are creating a tremendous movement into a clearer and more accurately defined recognition and familiarity of yourself and your reality, and the manner in which you move into that understanding of yourself and of your reality is to allow yourself experiences that shall motivate you in a questioning of your reality and how you define it.

This is a key point, for as you are translating much of your reality into objective recognition in relation to this shift in consciousness, you are translating much of what is known to you into an objective recognition of that knowing, which in actuality is the action of remembrance.  You present to yourself challenge in relation to how you define many aspects of your reality.

Now; as you are aware, within the time framework of this previous year, I have offered information to you and to all other individuals that I am interactive with, in expressing to you that in this time framework, you begin the insertion of this shift in consciousness into your objective reality, and in that action, you are redefining your reality.

Now, as you redefine your reality, you also redefine your terminology and your association with that terminology, and you redefine your understanding and recognition of many of the aspects of your reality, which is what you are engaging now.  You are engaging the action of redefining how your reality is expressed and the terms that are incorporated to define certain aspects of your reality.

Now; one of the areas of redefinition that you are engaging presently is the movement into a recognition of how you define communication that you offer to yourself concerning how you create your reality or what you create within your reality.

In this, you are moving into unfamiliar associations, and this creates confusion.

You are redefining the function of thought.

JOHN:  Okay.

ELIAS:  You are also allowing yourself a beginning movement in redefining the function of other aspects of your reality, which are in actuality avenues of communication that you have not previously defined as avenues of communication, and recognizing that the aspect of your creations, your reality, that you have previously defined as the main avenue of communication that you offer to yourself, as thought, is in actuality not a function of communication, in a manner of speaking, but rather a function of defining and translating communication.

Now; these are significant movements, for these redefinitions of terms and actions that you incorporate within your reality actually alter the entirety of your reality, for it alters your perception and how you interact with yourself, how you create a relationship with yourself, and also how you interact with your world.

JOHN:  Okay.  I’m glad you said that, because when I had the first session with you about a year ago, linearly speaking, you gave me my essence name Vito.  Now, I know that’s just the tone and whatnot, but I just wrote down some questions for myself.  Like I know that’s the essence name I have, but who is that?  Do you know what I mean?

I know it’s me, but I’ll read other transcripts where they’ll say, “Yeah, I’m helping myself,” as well as, “My essence is helping me.”  It’s like they separate the two, but I know they’re not separated, but I don’t know if I’m just so ... if I have that categorized so much or what, but I feel like when I say Vito, it doesn’t resonate with me so much.  I don’t know what I’m ... I don’t see the payoff, or I don’t feel like I’m connecting to myself as much, and I don’t know.  I guess I need a method, my friend.  I need a method!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!  And in a manner of speaking, this is what we shall be discussing.

For in this, you are correct.  You and many, many, many other individuals do automatically create these separations, for this is what is familiar to you within your physical reality.  You separate all aspects of your reality.

You separate your definitions and your associations with every aspect of yourself.  You separate your subjective and objective awarenesses in a manner in which you associate them as being two separate entities that interact with each other, as you may view yourself in some manner to be two individuals occupying the same physical form, and in the physical form, you separate the identification of that as being another separate entity from that which you identify as essentially you.  You also separate the aspects of your physical body and express that they each are separate entities holding separate functions.  You do not associate that ALL of these expressions are all aspects of you.

Now; in this, we return to the discussion of defining certain aspects of function of you in this reality.

Let me express to you, what you are in actuality creating movement within in this present time framework is movement into the allowance of yourself to be creating a relationship with yourself.

Now; in intellectual terms, you may express to yourself or to myself or to other individuals that you hold an understanding of those terms.  But in practical movement and application of those terms and the actualization of that action, you express confusion and you express to yourself, “What is the meaning of creating a relationship with myself?  For I am not more than one individual, and my definition of relationships is an interaction with other individuals.  Therefore, how may I be creating a relationship with myself?”

JOHN:  Right.  I mean, I feel like ... that’s why it comes back to the method thing, like I don’t know if I should meditate or what it is that will help me connect easier with myself, where I’m like, okay, I’ll sit down and say, I know I’m Vito.

Now, I have to also say that in this time frame, I’m questioning the validity of even you and this whole process, and I was saying to Mary that sometimes I wish I had never even found this information because I can’t go back to what I was, as far as the beliefs and whatnot that I grew up with.  I feel like I’m in a no-man’s land, where I know or feel that this is right for me, that something resonates to me in my interaction with you and the other avenues I’ve taken, but I also question the validity of everything too.

Like I don’t ... like why don’t I feel the path?  How come I don’t feel the joy, or how come I don’t feel the connection to myself?  Am I knocking on the wrong door to myself?  How come I don’t feel Vito coming back to me?  I feel like I’m putting out, but I don’t feel anything coming back to me.

ELIAS:  Let me express to you, my friend, you are moving in confusion, and you are not, in your terms, knocking upon the wrong door.  What you are creating is, figuratively speaking, knocking on the door and not answering the door.

JOHN:  (Laughing)  Oh man!

ELIAS:  This is what I may express to you, in that you have been noticing and that you have been paying attention to what you are noticing, and in a manner of speaking, what you are noticing is the knocking upon the door, which is becoming louder and louder and much more intense, but you are not responding and opening the door to receive the message.

JOHN:  How do I do that, though?

ELIAS:  Ah, and this is the action of redefining, and the manner in which you redefine is, you allow yourself to pay attention in relation to new definitions of aspects of your reality, which I shall express to you now.

One is the defining of the interaction of thought.

Thought is a tool that you have created within this physical reality which performs a function of interpretation and definition, in your objective awareness, of the communications that you offer to yourself through all of the other avenues of input.  Thought itself is not an avenue of input.  It is not an avenue of communication.  But to this point, your definition of thought is that it IS an avenue of communication.

JOHN:  Right.

ELIAS:  Therefore, first of all, we shall redefine the function of thought, returning it to its natural state in its design as a tool, and the function that is performed by that tool automatically.

Let me also express to you, you need not be manipulating your thought processes in any intentional manners in relation to what I shall be expressing to you.  For in the identification merely of defining thought as not communication, but as a tool which is incorporated to define and offer objective understanding of communications, you allow this tool to function automatically in its natural design.

Therefore, you need no method, for it shall automatically move in its natural function merely through your objective recognition of what its function is.

Now; in relation to redefining other aspects of your reality in conjunction with thought, I express to you the definition of communications, the identification of communications.  You offer to yourself communication in many, many expressions, many forms, many avenues.

In this, you incorporate inner and outer senses, which are all avenues of communication.  You incorporate physical expressions and exhibitions of affectingness within your physical body form, which is another avenue of communication.  You incorporate impressions.  You incorporate impulses.  You incorporate dream imagery.  And most effectively, you create a communication to yourself, to your objective awareness, through emotion.

In this, your definition of emotion is not communication.  Your definition of emotion is reaction.  Your definition, beyond reaction, of emotion is a gauge as to the state of your being.  I express to you quite definitely, emotion is not a gauge as to the state of your being and it is not a reaction, period.

Emotion is a communication which is expressed from the subjective awareness to the objective awareness as to what you are creating, what you are engaging.  Emotion does not FOLLOW actions.  It does not FOLLOW your objective creations.  It is a communication concerning what you are creating, and in that, we return to your door.

In this, the feeling that you experience in the expression of an emotion may be likened to the knocking on your door.  It is a signal that you are incorporating an input of information.  You are offering yourself a communication.  But as you incorporate thought in relation to your familiar definitions, what you create is merely paying attention to the signal, for you are defining emotion as a reaction.

Therefore, there is no message to be delivered.  There is merely a signal which is offered, which in relation to how you define your thoughts and how you define emotions, your thoughts are directed to merely recognize, notice, and define the signal.  Therefore, you offer yourself a definition that you are experiencing frustration, disappointment, sadness, anxiety, happiness, elation, confusion — it matters not.  You identify the signal, and beyond this, you turn your thoughts into other directions and do not receive the message.

You do this in relation to more avenues of communication than merely emotion, but you do this in relation to the communication of emotion quite consistently, and in that action, the signal continues.

Once you open the door, it is unnecessary to continue knocking upon it, correct?

JOHN:  Right.

ELIAS:  For you are allowing the reception of the message.

If you are NOT opening the door, you are not receiving the message and therefore the signal continues, and if the message is viewed to be significant or what you term to be important, the knocking shall become louder and more intense.  In like manner, if the message that you are attempting to be offering to yourself holds significance, in your terms — for all of your messages hold significance — or if you perceive it to hold importance, your signal shall become more intense and shall continue, and in this, you create more of an intensity of FEELING the emotion.

Now; emotion as we are discussing holds more information than merely that expression of the FEELING of it.

In this, as you allow yourself to recognize the function of thought and the function of emotion and the function of physical expressions which are offered through your physical body manifestations, you shall allow yourself to automatically engage thought in a different expression.  What you attempt to be engaging thought with to this point is overriding other communications.  You term this to be analyzation.  Many times, in actuality, what you are actualizing is the attempt to be overriding the communications that are offered in other forms, so to speak, with what you define as the communication of your thought, but thought is not a communication.

Therefore, you may create visual input, which is an avenue of communication, and you may incorporate a thought process which denies the reality of that visual input, and you shall express to yourself that you have not viewed what you have viewed, for it is not real or it may be impossible.  And in those associations, what you are in actuality creating is the attempt to be overriding the input of communication through the expression of thought.

But as you continue to move in conjunction with this shift in consciousness and you continue to widen your awareness, this action of attempting to be overriding the input of communications through all of these avenues of communication becomes less and less effective and more and more confusing, for you are continuing to incorporate this tool in a manner in which it is not designed, and you are becoming more and more aware of that action.

But you have not offered yourself an objective understanding of the definitions of what you actually create within your reality.

I shall express once again in reiteration, thought is not a base element of your reality.  Emotion and sexuality are the base elements, the foundational structures of your reality, and both of these foundational structures are also incorporated as avenues of communication that you offer to yourselves.

In this, thought is NOT a foundational or base element of your physical reality.  It is a construct that you have incorporated as a tool to be interpreting, defining, and translating these avenues of communication in an objective manner that shall allow you an objective physical understanding of your reality and of what you are choosing, what you are incorporating in action, what you are creating.

I may express to you, you all experience this action of attempting to override your communications through this tool of thought.

You have all created experiences in which you offer yourself an experience, a communication through physical touch, through visual experience, through your audio functioning in your hearing, through your experiences with taste and smell, in which you may offer to yourself a communication, and immediately, in a particular moment, create a thought process that denies that experience and therefore does not accept the communication.

JOHN:  Yeah, but ... I’m trying to understand all this.  This is quite daunting, actually, to tell you the truth.  I’m trying to get it, but I’ll have to listen to the tape and read the transcript, obviously.

The communications you’re talking about, there are, like you said, physical manifestations and whatnot.  Now, when something manifests physically, say it’s a pimple on my face or whatever, and that might be trivial or whatnot.  But you have to ... I don’t know if I’m not getting this or what.  But in the thought process, you have to ... okay, you go through a thought process — why am I creating this and what is it that it’s saying to me?  Maybe that’s where I’m having the problem.  I’m not understanding myself, I guess.  I don’t know how to ... do you know what I’m saying?

ELIAS:  Yes, and what I am expressing to you is that as you begin to allow yourself the genuine redefining of these functions, you also shall incorporate an automatic alteration of the interaction of thought.

Now; what you have expressed in this now is indicative of the automatic direction of your thought process in relation to how you have previously defined these actions and these aspects of your reality.

In this, your identification is, your automatic thought shall be, why have I created this?  What is the belief that is influencing this action?

JOHN:  Right.

ELIAS:  These are very limited questions that you present to yourself through your thoughts, for your definitions of what you are creating are very limited.

In this, what I am expressing to you is that if allowed to be moving in its natural function ... which it is partially now, but not entirely, for it is intertwined with your definitions of other functions.  If allowed to be incorporating its natural function, your thoughts shall incorporate different questions, which shall offer you different answers.

JOHN:  Now, let me stop you there.  How ... I have to go back again to the how.  How do I allow myself that?  That’s what I’m asking you about the method, you know?  Should I attempt this during meditation, even though I don’t know how to meditate really, or...?  You offer to people to “ride a bike.”  Is there a particular way I should ... not should, but that I can allow myself a little more freedom in this?

ELIAS:  This is unnecessary, and this is what I am expressing to you.  It shall become automatic, for the turn, the method, is the action of redefining.  I have offered you different definitions, and the mere assimilation of those different definitions in itself shall create an automatic alteration and movement.  The method is expressed already in the definitions.

JOHN:  In my comprehension of the redefinitions?

ELIAS:  Yes.  Now; in this, what you may be incorporating if you wish, in addition to merely incorporating different definitions and accepting of those different definitions, is an allowance of yourself to be paying attention to your communications as communications, and in this, allow yourself to be paying attention more fully and closely to all of the communications that you offer to yourself in emotion.

JOHN:  So would I be emotion based or thought?  I always thought I was thought based, but I guess I’m emotion based, or....

ELIAS:  It matters not which type of focus you choose, as emotionally focused or thought focused or political or religious.  Emotion in itself is a base element of your reality, and you all incorporate this as an avenue of communication from the subjective to the objective awareness.  Therefore, the definition of emotion is the same in relation to all of you.

JOHN:  Okay.  But am I thought or emotion based?  I feel like I’m thought based, but....

ELIAS:  You are correct.  You are what may be defined as a thought focused individual.

Now; in this, it matters not that you are a thought focused individual.  This is an expression that moves in relation to your perception and the manner in which you input information and associate with information.

Creating a choice to be incorporating a focus as a thought focused individual is not defined in the manner in that you shall think more or that you shall experience emotion less.  Many times it may translate objectively into the appearance that this may be what is occurring, but in actuality, you incorporate communication through emotion in as much volume as any other individual, and those individuals that may be emotionally focused incorporate thought in as much volume as do you.  It is merely a difference in association in how you process information and how you initially allow yourself the recognition of that information.

In this, what I am expressing to you is a different avenue of information, and not necessarily concerning, in this present now, the association of what type of focus that you engage.

JOHN:  Right.  I was just ... that was kind of a sidebar.  I was just wondering.  The last time we ... Elias, it was a pleasure to meet you objectively, and Mary, the last time.

ELIAS:  Ha ha!

JOHN:  I just want to confirm that I am a final focus.  I mean, I think we kind of said that at the last session, but I just want to confirm that.

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

JOHN:  Okay, and you said to me as well, about my son, that you would let me know whether he was ... I think it’s Borledim or Milumet.  I’m not exactly sure, but I have this impression that he’s Borledim.

ELIAS:  You are correct.

JOHN:  And you said you would let me know somehow, and I was just wondering how you let me know, even though I know? (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!  Through the validation of what you have allowed yourself in knowing through your impressions.

JOHN:  Okay. (Elias laughs)  I want to ask you also, the recreational activity I take at night after I get home from work, is that creating a thickness in my allowance to get where I want to go?

ELIAS:  What is your impression?

JOHN:  I think it does.

ELIAS:  And why shall you not be paying attention to this communication?

JOHN:  I don’t know.

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha!

JOHN:  (Laughing)  It’s just ... I feel I’m moving, Elias.  I do really feel that I am moving.

ELIAS:  And you are!

JOHN:  And I don’t know where, and it’s ... like you said, it’s unfamiliar.  I don’t mean to get off ... I’m jumping tracks here.  But as far as my intent, I am following my intent, correct?

ELIAS:  Correct.

JOHN:  And would that at all have to do with being a medium or a person that, you know ... I know that death is one of the big things in my life that has led me to where I am, to this point right now, in my fascination with it at first, and then my understanding of it, and now I feel as though I actually don’t have a complete understanding at all, but I’m moving toward the avenues of understanding that there is no separation.  Would that be part of my intent, to be a medium or in that avenue?

ELIAS:  Not necessarily, although I shall express to you, as you are aware, that this is an avenue that is available to you, and you may be moving into that type of expression if you are so choosing.

But I may express to you more so, in like manner to what you are engaging presently in becoming more familiar with yourself intimately and recognizing the lack of separation within yourself, this is quite instrumental and influencing in your movement into what may be termed as a more expansive understanding and interaction with the lack of separation between what you view as physical dimension and creation and nonphysical expressions subsequent to the choice of death.

This is a movement in your choice of direction, to be concentrating your attention in this area of dropping the veil, so to speak.

JOHN:  Right.  I feel that ... I don’t know how to express this.  I feel that ... I don’t know.  It feels like ... sometimes I feel like somebody’s waiting on me to find something out, to discover something about myself so then something else can happen.  I don’t know if that ... like I feel like there is a group of people waiting for me to do something.  I don’t know if it’s you, even Mary, yourself ... you’ve been waiting on me to find something out about myself to where, okay, he’s up to speed, let’s get him in the game or whatever!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha!  And in a manner of speaking, figuratively speaking, your impression is correct.

For in this, as you allow yourself first to become aware of objectively and familiar with yourself and the lack of separation of self and all of your reality, you also shall be incorporating this action of dropping this veil between your awareness and the awarenesses of focuses of attention — or what you term now to be individuals — that have engaged this action of death, and incorporate a movement within areas of transition or prior to actions of transition, and also some subsequent movements to transition in nonphysical expressions.

JOHN:  Okay.  So in other words, I would be able to objectively communicate?

ELIAS:  Yes.

JOHN:  Alright.  Now, my mom passed away many years ago, and we had discussed this the first time, that she is no longer focused in ... or the attention of that focus is no longer held in this dimension.  If I continue on with what I’m doing and continue with my intent, would I be able to communicate with her?  There is no separation either way, as far as communicating with the focus that was my mom?  Even though she’s not or her attention is not in this dimension, I would be able to eventually communicate with her objectively?

ELIAS:  Yes.

JOHN:  Okay, and yourself as well?  I mean, I would love to have — and other people have expressed this as well — the ability to just relax and sit back and talk with you, and you have said on many occasions that this is very simply done, but obviously we’re not or I’m not in the ... I don’t know.  I guess it’s ... I have to start first with myself before anything else happens.  Like, I want to manifest an apple in my hand.  I want to manifest.  I want to, you know, put ... my wife busts my chops and says, “You want to put your hand through a door!”  And I want to experience all these wonderful things, but first you have to experience yourself, I guess, before you can go anywhere else.

ELIAS:  Correct, and become familiar with you and your abilities, and a key element of that action, in allowing yourself to be creating these types of movements or amazements or parlor tricks, so to speak....

JOHN:  I’m big on parlor tricks, Elias!

ELIAS:  Which is acceptable. (John laughs)  In this allowance of those types of actions, the key element is the genuine recognition that you do in actuality hold this ability, and once genuinely acknowledging that you do in actuality hold this ability, offering yourself permission to enact it.

These are two very key points, for I may express to you quite genuinely, the reason that most individuals throughout your planet do not create these types of actions is that in genuineness, you do not actually recognize or believe that you do hold this ability, first of all, and once you do allow yourselves a genuine knowing that you do hold the ability, the subsequent hurdle, so to speak, that is engaged is the allowance to offer yourself permission to engage that ability.

And you may express to myself, why shall you not offer yourself permission if you genuinely are recognizing that you hold this ability?  Why shall you not move, in your terms, forward immediately and express the permission to enact these abilities?  And I shall express to you that this is not an automatic action.  It is unfamiliar, and it is an area of trust that you do NOT trust.

You may hold an ability, but this is not to say that you trust your ability to be creating that or that you shall allow yourself to create that, for you continue in expressions of duplicity within your beliefs that express to you that you should or should not be creating these types of actions.

There are many other expressions that involve themselves in any of what you view to be one action.  There are many aspects of your associations and your beliefs and your measurements of yourselves that hold involvement in ANY action that you choose to be engaging.

But the key elements, quite simply, are the allowance of yourself to KNOW that you do hold these abilities, and once knowing that you hold these abilities, to offer yourself permission to engage them, for the expression of fear in relation to the engagement of any of these actions is quite automatically and strongly expressed.

JOHN:  Right.  I’m kinda running out of time here.  If I could just touch on just a little sidebar here.  I had a dream, and there was a gentleman named Claude, and he had black jeans on and a hat and a new shirt, and he was extremely tall and looked to be of Indian culture.

I wondered if you could comment on that at all.  It was just a brief thing, and I wrote it down.  It was a while ago.

ELIAS:  And what is your impression?

JOHN:  I don’t know if it was me, or who it was.  He was lying on my couch — not on the couch, but on the top of the couch — and I said to him, please don’t do that, (laughing) and it just ended.  The dream ended. (Elias laughs)  He was a very tall, imposing figure.

ELIAS:  I shall express to you, this is another focus, but not of yourself.  This is another focus of the small one.

JOHN:  Oh, of Jake!

ELIAS:  Yes.

JOHN:  Ariella.  That’s amazing! (Elias laughs)  And I’m trying to think, I’m just trying to cram this all in here right now, and okay, we talked about me wanting to create spectacularly, which we know has to ... it all starts with me first.

ELIAS:  Quite.

JOHN:  And I guess we can just end on, if you have any ... okay, I know what I want to talk about.  It feel sometimes ... now, this is the impression that I get, that we were ... I know we’ve only shared one or two focuses together, but I have a feeling we were adversarial at times in one of them, because I feel sometimes that ... I get the impression that you don’t like me, and I don’t like you sometimes.

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!

JOHN:  Like I feel like sometimes, like before I talk to you, like man, I’m bothering him.  He’s bothered by me, you know?

ELIAS:  And I may express to you, you are correct.  We have engaged focuses together within this physical dimension in what may be termed as adversaries.  Ha ha ha!

JOHN:  What time framework was this in, just out of curiosity?

ELIAS:  I may express to you, you have engaged in this type of relationship with myself several times, (laughing) in which, within our interaction in one focus within France, I may express to you that the focus of attention that I have held in that time framework perceived you as quite an irritant and annoyance!  Ha ha ha ha ha!

JOHN:  Good for me then! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha!  And I may express to you also, my friend, you may be assured that this is not expressed in our interaction in this now.

JOHN:  That’s nice to know.  What time period was that in?  Was that in the 1800s or 1700s?

ELIAS:  What you term to be late 1700s.

JOHN:  Okay.  I guess I should let Mary get back, but now it’s like we just opened up a whole other door of other things I’d like to talk about, but I’ll have to save them for another time. (Elias laughs)

I read the poem by your focus of Oscar Wilde, “The Ballad of Reading Gaol.”  I don’t know if I’m pronouncing that correctly or not, but I felt that that’s the prison I was in with you at that time.

ELIAS:  You are correct.

JOHN:  Henry Blodget?

ELIAS:  You are correct.

JOHN:  I guess that’s it, Elias.  There are so many other things I could ask you, but if you have any parting words before we disengage this day....

ELIAS:  I may express to you, my friend, you have allowed yourself to be engaging much information this day, and much to be assimilated and understood objectively.

In this, be reminding of yourself, turn your attention — in the action of paying attention and noticing — to other areas of noticing and paying attention.  Allow yourself to be paying attention to the communication which is offered through emotion, and in this, allow yourself to be noticing the automatic turn in the interplay between the emotional communication and the questions that your thoughts shall offer to you, and the difference that you may be offering to yourself in response in allowing yourself to more clearly identify what you are in actuality communicating to your objective awareness through these expressions of emotions, rather than merely identifying them as the feeling or the signal.

This may be quite influencing of you, in offering new aspects of communication to yourself and in allowing yourself to become much more familiar with yourself in this time framework, and experiencing less conflict.

I also may express one other tidbit, so to speak, of information to you in this now. (Chuckling)

JOHN:  Please do!

ELIAS:  Allow yourself to pay attention to your small one.

JOHN:  Okay.  I do try to tune into him, and you know, I’m trying to get ... I try to just merge energy.  I don’t even know if I know what I’m doing, really.  But I just try to connect with him and allow him, and I say to him objectively, “I respect you.  I allow you to create ... you do create your reality,” and I just think I have to believe it more myself.

ELIAS:  Let me express to you, this may be an exercise in allowing yourself to be paying more attention to these avenues of communication, and not necessarily engaging the thought process to extreme extents.  For in this, thought is not necessarily the avenue in which you may allow yourself to be interacting with and communicating with this small one, but you hold great potential to be quite interactive with this small one through other avenues.

JOHN:  I do desire that.  I do want to ... I think maybe, like you said, I complicate it a little bit, and I add thoughts and the whole thing.  I just try to tune into him and get a feel for what he is feeling and what he’s saying to me, even though he can’t objectively communicate with me right now.  But I try to tune into that.

ELIAS:  Be paying attention.  This may offer you another avenue of information. (Chuckling)

JOHN:  Just quickly, before we go, I know you say you’re interactive with us all the time, but I haven’t ... I guess I’m not noticing, but I haven’t felt you around.  I haven’t noticed you really that much.  Is there ... what am I missing here?  You know, just a little clue as to when you’re around.  Is it the feeling, or...?

ELIAS:  What you are not noticing is what we have been discussing this day.  You are paying attention to your thoughts, and you are paying attention to a few avenues of communication that you allow yourself to be paying attention to in very physical terms, but you are not paying attention to the other avenues of communication.

Therefore, in allowing yourself not to be so extremely intensely focused upon your thoughts, you may also allow yourself more of a recognition of other energy. (Laughing)

JOHN:  Okay.  Well, we’ve come full circle today, my friend, and I want to thank you for your time, and I just have to relax, I guess you could say.

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha!

JOHN:  Kick back a little bit and relax and just not think so much.  I just ... it’s such an extreme desire in myself to ... you know, I know I create my reality and I create anyway, and I do tell myself I’m always going to be Vito anyway.  No matter what I do, I’m always going to be this and I’m eternal.  But yet I still put these blocks in front of myself, this over-thinking and these ... well, you know.  It’s a big mess down here sometimes, but I’m working through it!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!  It is all quite purposeful, my friend.

JOHN:  Yeah, I know.  I just ... there’s something inside of me deep that says, keep going.  This is the right path for me.  Now, whether it is for somebody else, that’s their choice, but for me, this is the way that I’ve chosen, and I know I’m going to continue going with it until it doesn’t ... I guess I just need to talk to you sometimes and get that validation.  I wish I didn’t.  I have to trust myself more, but I’m not gonna discount myself....

ELIAS:  Ah, and I shall be quite acknowledging of that!  And in this, I shall continue also to be encouraging of you, for you are creating movement in your desire and the direction that you have chosen.

JOHN:  Okay, alright.  I’ve definitely kept you over a little bit, and I don’t want to tax Mary anymore.  Send her some energy for me, okay?

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha!  Your request has been received and acknowledged.

JOHN:  ‘Cause I want her to feel better too.  She said she had ... she went to the doctor, and I’m not gonna ask for her what’s wrong because I feel like I would be violating her trust.  But I’ll send her my energy, and if you send her some too, that would be great.

ELIAS:  Very well, my friend!  I shall comply.

JOHN:  Thank you very much, and you have a wonderful existence!

ELIAS:  Ha ha ha ha ha!  And I shall, and so shall you in your new adventures and discoveries!  Ha ha ha!

JOHN:  I look forward to speaking with you on other levels than through this physical phone.

ELIAS:  Very well, and so we shall.

JOHN:  Okay.

ELIAS:  To you in tremendous affection and great encouragement, I anticipate our next meeting ...

JOHN:  As do I.

ELIAS:  ... and express to you, au revoir.

JOHN:  Au revoir.

Elias departs at 2:09 PM.

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