Exchanging Aspects of Self
“Exchanging Aspects of Self”
Tuesday, December 14, 1999
© 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jan (Mona).
Elias arrives at 12:37 PM. (Arrival time is 25 seconds)
ELIAS: Good morning!
JAN: Good morning, Elias! How are you?
ELIAS: As always!
JAN: Yeah, me too! (Elias chuckles) I don’t have any important questions to ask you, but I wanted to touch base on some little stuff, and just see how I’m doing with getting on with things.
ELIAS: Very well!
JAN: The first thing I want to ask you is, when I was almost asleep, I saw a focus. It was a girl on a chaise, and she saw me, and that was so weird! We were just looking at each other, and it was just as real as if it happened in 3-D. I haven’t been able to get her back to look at her again. Neither one of us were frightened, but really surprised! Do you know what that is, or what she is for me?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha! Interesting encounter, is it not?
JAN: Yes, it was wonderful!
ELIAS: (Chuckling) I shall express to you that this is another focus of your essence which is manifest futurely. Therefore, there is no incorporation of fearfulness in the encounter that you each have allowed yourselves, but there is an incorporation of surprise within each of you, as generally, when you are projecting within consciousness and allowing yourself to be connecting with another focus objectively, you are creating a projection in a manner in which you shall not be observed necessarily by the other focus. Or, you may be projecting your consciousness into another focus and you may merge with the other focus, and in this, you shall be experiencing the other focus, and there shall also not be an objective awareness upon the part of the other focus.
In this situation, you both simultaneously have allowed yourselves a projection in which you have allowed each other to be viewed within your reality. Therefore, you view this individual within your reality, and she views you within her reality.
JAN: Well, I felt like I was sort of spying on her!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha!
JAN: ‘Cause she was turned away from me, and I guess she felt me looking, and she turned over and looked at me. It was interesting and I’d love to do it again, and I wonder if I’m trying too hard. But that certainly wasn’t planned. I wasn’t looking for it.
ELIAS: Quite. You may involve much more of an ease as you allow yourself to relax into this action rather than concentrating so very intensely.
JAN: Are we sharing energy or anything, she and I?
ELIAS: All focuses exchange energy with each other, yes.
JAN: Oh, okay. Are there any focuses I could look at, so to speak, to share energy with on purpose? You’re always giving other people stuff, like from the third century and things like that. Is there anyone I’m close enough to, to do this with?
ELIAS: First of all, I may express to you that you may be investigating more of this future focus if you are so choosing, for you have already allowed an interaction and an encounter with that focus. You may also be investigating what you term to be past focuses.
Now; I shall express to you initially an encouragement to be attempting to explore other focuses that you hold yourself.
In this, merely allow yourself to relax and allow the reception of any direction that you may drift into. Do not be forcing your energy in any particular direction, but merely allow yourself in relaxation to be accepting of whichever focus you initially magnate to, and as you allow yourself these beginnings, we shall continue discussions, and I shall be helpful with you in offering you some information in conjunction with those focuses that you allow yourself to be connecting with, and I shall also offer you validation as to your experiences.
JAN: I thought I felt validation from you after this happened with the girl. I’m not sure about that.
ELIAS: You are correct.
JAN: It was validation from something! Usually when I do this, when I want to see focuses, a whole bunch of faces just go by real fast, and most of them are female.
ELIAS: This is common, and in this experience, you may incorporate an objective action in more of a relaxation as you are viewing these individuals in rapid motion, and this shall slow the motion, and you may choose one of these focuses and allow yourself to drift in that direction.
JAN: Okay. Are you still there?
JAN: Okay. I’ve made a bunch of changes in my life since I last talked to you, and I don’t want a judgment on whether it’s good or bad. I just want to know, am I moving or am I just sideways?
ELIAS: Ha ha ha ha! I shall express to you that if you are moving sideways, you are accomplishing quite well! Ha ha! (Jan cracks up and Elias chuckles)
JAN: Okay. I did finally leave my husband, and the last time, you mentioned that he was merging and fragmenting. In fact, he’s changed so much that he’s like a total stranger, not just to me but to the kids too. He’s very different, and actually it’s better, to judge it, than the person he was before. But we’re all confused about, who is this person and what is he doing? (They both laugh)
ELIAS: This is also an action of an exchange of the primary aspect of the individual, for in conjunction with this fragmentation, there are alterations which are occurring within the individual focuses, and in this particular focus, this individual is creating a movement in which he has exchanged positions of one aspect of self with a different aspect of self, in the assuming of the role of the primary aspect.
The primary aspect of self is that expression which you objectively identify as the person, so to speak. In this, at times you may be exchanging positions with an alternate aspect of self, and it may not appear so very removed or different from the primary aspect that was expressed previously. But at times, some individuals are choosing to be moving a very different expression into the primary position, and this becomes quite obvious and noticeable objectively to other individuals as they continue interaction with this individual.
This offers him the opportunity to be objectively, physically exploring other qualities and other elements of creativity in this focus that previously were unexpressed and latent in the personality. You may experience more of an ease with this aspect of the individual within the primary position, for the expressions in many areas are quite different, although I may express to you, some of the expressions are quite the same.
JAN: So some are the same, but then some aspects are SO different. Like I said, he’s a stranger to us sometimes! (Elias chuckles) The person we thought we knew is not the same person.
Okay, another question. I met this guy named Danny a few months ago, and there was an immediate mutual attraction. It didn’t really pan out to be anything, because although we were both interested in metaphysics, we had totally different beliefs. But one of things he said to me was that I was dying of some strange disorder, and that my house is on energy ley lines, that I’m not living in a good place. I decided I didn’t need to hear this kind of negative stuff, and I just haven’t had any contact with him in a long time. But I’m wondering what the attraction was, and I can’t get it out of my mind that maybe what he said was true, even though I tried to discount it. Could you comment on that?
ELIAS: Yes. First of all, I shall express to you that you have participated in other focuses with this individual, which allows you objectively an immediate recognition and identification of a type of interconnectedness with this individual in objective terms. This is the initial response, a recognition of familiarity, and therefore there is an initial draw.
Subsequent to that initial draw, there has also been created in your movement another draw to this individual, to be offering yourself information and the opportunity to view different expressions of beliefs and your response to them.
In this area of metaphysics presently, there are many individuals that move in the direction of expressing that they are not in alignment with some of the concepts or aspects of the beliefs concerning different metaphysical ideals or philosophies, but this particular expression of metaphysics incorporates much superstition, and in this, it invokes curiosity with many individuals, but it also invokes elements of questioning and wondering and apprehension, and at times fearfulness, for you are allowing yourselves to be expressing and manipulating energy in conjunction with your beliefs in superstitions of elements of your reality that are unseen and what you believe to be unknown. Therefore, there is an allowance for this questioning. There is also a wide window for many different types of expressions and beliefs to be incorporated in this particular philosophy of metaphysics, for you create an allowance for much more of an expansiveness in this particular direction of metaphysics; much less guidelines.
Now; as to the physical manifestations and the information which has been offered to you, I shall express to you that this is an interpretation which is offered to you through the beliefs of this other individual.
In this, the physical location in which you are dwelling DOES hold energy deposits, which is quite normal, so to speak, and you move about within these energy deposits quite easily. Therefore, there is no need for apprehension or worry in this area.
JAN: I was gonna say, it doesn’t bother me.
JAN: But it bothered him.
ELIAS: This is a recognition....
JAN: It’s his beliefs; I have to keep saying, these are his beliefs.
ELIAS: Quite. This is a recognition and a responsiveness to energy that is objectively felt, and in that objective recognition of the energy, there is an uncomfortableness with this individual, for this is an unfamiliar feeling, so to speak. Therefore, there is an automatic association through the individual’s beliefs which suggests that this is bad.
JAN: That’s his favorite word — bad!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
JAN: Bad and wrong!
ELIAS: I express to you, as you are aware, there is no bad and there is no wrong! And this energy is not harmful to you. It is quite natural.
There are energy deposits throughout your entire physical reality. You yourself place energy deposits in many physical locations. Every individual upon your planet and throughout your history creates energy deposits within your reality. This is an action that is natural in your manifestation within this dimension.
You move quite easily within the energy deposits that are manifest in that particular physical location, and it matters not. This may be in actuality partially helpful to you in allowing you a familiarity with different expressions of energy, which shall familiarize you objectively with the differences between your expression of energy and other focuses’ expressions of energy.
As to the assessment of your creation of a physical affectingness that shall be harmful to you and shall be leading to your inevitable demise, (Jan laughs) I shall express to you that this is also an expression of his belief systems.
The individual has assessed one energy center within your physical expression, your yellow energy center, which is slightly out of alignment, which is also quite usual, so to speak, as it is influenced by emotional expressions and also influences emotional expressions, and as you involve yourself in certain creations and situations within your focus which are also creating emotional expressions, your yellow energy center becomes out of alignment temporarily.
This is a powerful energy center in its radiation. Therefore, it is easily noticed by other individuals if they are allowing themselves to be turning their attention to your energy field.
In this, the individual plays with his ability to be open to other energies, but he also does not offer himself information efficiently objectively yet to be moving his expression beyond an assessment of fear. He is allowing himself to be accessing energy and recognizing energy objectively, but it is quite unfamiliar objectively to him, and therefore he is also incorporating elements of fearfulness in his encounters with expressions of energy, and this is filtered through beliefs and is translated into his interpretation of the meaning, so to speak, of the energy that he has encountered.
Therefore, as he views an unfamiliarity as negative, he translates this negative into an objective expression that there must be some element physically that is terribly, terribly wrong with you! (Jan laughs and Elias chuckles)
I express to you that you are not creating — presently — any physical disease that shall be creating of your disengagement. (Chuckling)
JAN: (Laughing) I didn’t think I was. It seems like I would be the first person to know that everything was not pretty much okay.
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
JAN: Can you tell me my intent in the shift? I’m wondering if I have one at all, or if I’m just kind of a person who’s gonna float through here and not have any effect on anything that’s going on around me.
ELIAS: Ah! Personal invalidation!
JAN: Well, maybe not everybody ...
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
JAN: ... is supposed to be doing it. I keep thinking about what I do and what I know....
ELIAS: Every individual focus that occupies your physical dimension holds an individual intent. Every individual within your physical dimension is affecting within consciousness objectively and subjectively in your reality. Every individual, in your very physical terms, offers a contribution to your physical dimension and reality.
Therefore, you are not merely drifting through this existence, offering no expression of any type and holding no intent! You DO hold an intent. In this, it is merely another expression of your mass beliefs, that some intents may be more important or more expressed than other intents. This is not the situation.
Every individual’s intent is important, for it is that motivating force which creates your value fulfillment, and were you not creating your value fulfillment within this expression, you would not continue in this expression. Therefore, your intent holds importance in your individual expression and direction of your focus.
You within this focus ARE moving in conjunction with this shift in consciousness, and you are also lending energy, objectively and subjectively, to the movement of this shift in consciousness, as are all other individuals upon your planet.
You move individually, within YOUR intent, in the allowance of yourself to be watching, as you observe all of the interactions and creations which are occurring in conjunction with this shift.
Your intent is not necessarily a mission in this particular focus, but more to be assimilating experiences and allowing yourself a physical time framework of fascination with the movement of this shift in consciousness.
Think to yourself of an individual that may watch with fascination a mechanical device and the workings of this mechanical device for extremely long time frameworks, and it shall continue to hold the individual’s attention and not incorporate any expression of boredom, for there is a tremendous fascination merely with the viewing of all of the workings of the mechanical device.
In a like manner, within this focus, your intent moves you in the direction of a fascination in observation; observing yourself, your children, all other individuals that you interact with, individuals that you do not interact with, creations that are expressed throughout your dimension, ALL of the different aspects of expression that may be created in conjunction with this shift in consciousness and how they are expressed differently ...
ELIAS: ... how small ones interpret or perceive the movement of your reality and the movement of this shift in consciousness, and how this differs from the perceptions and the interactions of individuals that you view as adults, how individuals of different orientations view and perceive this reality and the movement of this shift in consciousness differently, how ALL of your reality is affected quite differently in all of its expressions.
Therefore, in a manner of speaking figuratively, I may express to you that your intent within this particular focus, beyond the involvement, so to speak, of this shift in consciousness, is an expression of curiosity and observation.
JAN: You know, you have really hit it! ‘Cause I used to think that I would like to be an anthropologist, and that just didn’t quite hit it, but it’s where I like to observe, like what you’re talking about with the shift, or an anthropologist or something. Just watching it is fascinating!
JAN: It really is!
ELIAS: And in....
JAN: And yet, I don’t feel like I contribute anything....
ELIAS: In this, let me express to you that you contribute objectively and subjectively within consciousness, for this offers you the expression of allowance, and this allowance moves you more and more into an expression of acceptance, acceptance of self and acceptance of other individuals and of situations within your reality, and this lends energy to the expression of acceptance with other individuals and lends energy to the movement of this shift in consciousness. This is the point of the story of the little sapling.
JAN: Ah, yes! I think about that sometimes. It’s really neat when I’m thinking of what choice I should make, and it naturally just has to be ... to try to be like the little sapling.
JAN: Okay, my friends: I’m moving away from most of my 3-D friends, but now even more scary, I think, is moving away from my current counterparts, and I’m not sure what to do about this, if anything.
But it seems like I’m moving to a space of aloneness, whereas I really don’t want to be that secluded, and I’m wondering if I could draw someone else in, or just stay and do this for a while, or what?
ELIAS: This is a temporary expression that you are creating, and in this, you are allowing yourself the opportunity to be turning your attention to self and occupying your attention in the direction of acceptance of self and a noticing of your behaviors and your participation in interactions with different individuals.
Therefore, I express to you that you may allow yourself an acceptance in ease in this movement that you are creating presently, for this is a temporary creation.
JAN: Oh, good. It’s me doing it; it’s not them. I know I’m the one that’s pulling back.
ELIAS: Quite, but this is purposeful, for it offers you the opportunity to view self.
JAN: So maybe I’ll come out of it, and get back to having friends again! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
JAN: Or closer friends! (Elias chuckles)
I have a lot of the disorientation that other people have, and it’s like when I was at the attorney’s office, I could not remember when I got married. Is this due to the shift or am I experiencing something else? I mean, I have this real DUH stuff, and I’ve gotten lost twice (Elias chuckles) in familiar areas. I’ve lived here thirty-something years. I know where everything is, except on the days when I don’t! (Laughing) I just wonder if this is the shift, ‘cause I notice that it does happen to other people too. (Elias chuckles) But you know, I feel stupid! It’s a wonder I know my name on some days!
ELIAS: In some situations, this is an expression of transition with some individuals. In this situation with yourself and with many other individuals, this IS an element expressed through the energy and movement of this shift.
Your attention shifts with this shift in consciousness, and as your attention is shifting into other directions and you are adjusting your perception, you are not paying attention to some elements within your reality that you view to be unimportant.
JAN: Yeah! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Therefore, you assess that you are being forgetful. You are merely not paying attention to those elements within your reality that you deem to be unimportant, for you are occupying your attention in other areas that hold fascination to you.
JAN: I try to stay more in the now, because I’ve had these things happen, and like you said, I drift, and I’m not staying in the now.
ELIAS: (Chuckling) You are occupying your attention quite well in many different directions in conjunction with your curiosity and your fascination, and therefore, the mundane expressions that hold tremendous familiarity with you become quite unimportant and not worthy of your attention presently. Ha ha!
JAN: Like with the attorney, I was thinking about his belief systems with something he expressed to someone on the phone, and I just kept thinking about that, and then I just lost the drift of where we were!
ELIAS: Ha ha ha!
JAN: (Laughing) It’s trying to keep your mind on the here and now.
Okay, I think my time is close to up anyway, although I’ve enjoyed it, so I wish we could do it every month. (Elias chuckles)
Oh, one more thing. Was I ever, or am I, in a focus in Charleston, South Carolina, in an old area? I had a thing of deja vu there one time, that I knew I lived in a certain house....
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
JAN: And do you know what I was there? Was I the owner of the house or a slave or what? That’s where it goes back to.
ELIAS: A family member of the owner of the home.
JAN: I felt like I could walk in the house and know where everything was. That was strange! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Quite; the home owner, so to speak, being your father.
JAN: Okay. That must be my draw to there.
ELIAS: Quite, and you may be investigating of this focus also, if you are so choosing.
JAN: Oh, one more thing! I am drawn to Mexico. I love to go there. I love it! I love the people, I love the food, I love the scenery, and yet I have no remembrance of previous focuses there. But I could happily live there if the circumstances worked that way. Is there a reason for that?
ELIAS: And this is your beginnings of offering to yourself another direction of another focus that you hold.
Now; this is the reason that I have not offered you information this day of other focuses, for you have been moving in the direction of discounting yourself and your abilities to be accessing this information, and you already ARE offering yourself this type of information. Therefore, I express to you encouragement to continue your exploration and allow yourself to be viewing these focuses in which you hold strong draws. These focuses shall be easily accessed by yourself.
JAN: Apparently I want to be with that one! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha!
JAN: Well, I AM that one, but you know....
JAN: Or I turn into that one or whatever.
ELIAS: This is in actuality a common expression within physical focus, that your recognition of other focuses which you hold in affinity bleed through, and you continue to be drawn in different focuses to those particular areas and cultures and expressions. This be the reason that you experience this draw to this particular physical location.
JAN: I’ll have to explore that one a little more. It just struck me that every time I think I want to go somewhere, it’s there again!
ELIAS: (Chuckling) And I shall be encouraging of you to be investigating of this focus.
JAN: Oh, and I thought of one more thing, if you have time.
ELIAS: You may.
JAN: When I had my first child, it was an ordeal and a half, and when I came out of the anesthesia, I did not remember being married, much less pregnant, and it was a real surprise to me to have a child, and everybody was approving. Did I undergo any sort of fragmentation or whatever during that period? It took me a while to get back.
Vic’s note: I have guessed at some of the words in this question, as the bird was quite vocal, and some of the words were obliterated.
ELIAS: No. This once again is an expression of an exchange of position of the primary aspect. This is a temporary exchange, for I shall express to you that you may be creating of this action and not create a permanence, in your physical terms, of that exchange.
Many individuals exchange positions of primary aspects merely temporarily within a focus. In this situation that you engaged in that time framework, this would be another example of that type of action, of an exchange of position of the primary aspect of self.
JAN: Okay. I just got to wondering what it was that I did there.
ELIAS: At times this may be affecting objectively of your memory, but I shall also express to you that it is not creating of a loss of memory, so to speak, for the memory may continue to be accessed. It may merely be slightly more difficult within a time framework to be accessing....
JAN: Well, it did come back, but it was definitely a weird feeling to do that. (Elias chuckles) Okay, is there anything else I need to know at this time, about what I could be doing?
ELIAS: (Chuckling) Merely to be continuing in your investigation. You hold enough activities presently to be occupying your attention!
JAN: That’s true! Okay, I sure appreciate this.
ELIAS: I express....
JAN: And I will call you in the new year ...
ELIAS: Very well.
JAN: ... and we can review where we are, or where I am.
ELIAS: Very well.
JAN: You know where you are! (Laughing)
ELIAS: Ha ha! And you know where you are also!
To you this day, in great affection and anticipation of our next meeting, I bid you au revoir.
JAN: Au revoir, and thank you.
Elias departs at 1:28 PM.
Vic’s note: Interesting session, Jan, considering that you didn’t have any important questions. Ha ha!
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