Saturday, September 25, 1999   © 2000 (Private)
Participants:  Mary (Michael), Vivien (Miriam), Elisabeth (Sebastia), Gerhard (Doro), James (Kashel), and Vicki (Lawrence).
Elias arrives at 10:55 AM. (Arrival time is 25 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good morning!

VIVIEN:  Good morning, Elias.  I have lots of questions today, but the first one I’d like to start with is, the physical affectingness that I had yesterday and partly today from the energy exchange, is there ANYTHING I can do objectively to help myself with this?  I have a feeling that the imbalance I feel physically, physiologically, is with an over-acidity.  I’m wondering if there is something I can do to help myself feel better by creating more of an alkaline balance, if that would do any good. (Pause)

ELIAS:  This may be partially helpful, although I may also express to you that this would not be alleviating of this situation.

Let me express to you that you have created a choice, and in this choice, this allows you an objective feeling of interconnectedness with Michael and with this phenomenon.

VIVIEN:  I’m aware.

ELIAS:  Therefore, as this offers you an objective satisfaction and payoff, you continue to allow a very similar affectingness ... that Michael experiences in a slightly different manner.

Now; in this, the difference in these two situations is, Michael’s interaction with this energy exchange is the choice to be interactive or to not be interactive, and in choosing to be interactive with this phenomenon, there is an awareness that the physical affectingness is an element that accompanies this action, and in some areas this shall not alter in the manner of disappearance.  As he chooses to continue within this energy exchange, this physical affectingness shall also continue.

In your situation, you may create a choice not to be engaging this action of physical affectingness.  The most efficient manner of affecting your allowance or non-allowance of this physical situation is to be addressing to yourself, recognizing — not merely within thought — but recognizing and identifying what you have created and the expression of the belief which accompanies this.

In this, you may be — and are already — interconnected and moving, so to speak, with the energy of the phenomenon, and it is not a creation of MORE of an interconnectedness, in your expression of allowing a similar interaction.

Within the underlying belief, this aspect suggests to you — and you believe — that your interconnectedness is more if you are creating this partially empathic expression ... for partially, it is not an empathic creation.  Partially, what you are engaging is an actual allowance of the same energy exchange, in which — to a point — you allow yourself to open your consciousness to an actual interaction, in very similar manner to Michael.

In this action, you also create a removal of some elements of your subjective communication with your body consciousness.  You are not creating an entire removal in the manner that Michael creates, but you are creating enough removal of your interaction, and therefore also allowing the input, figuratively speaking, of the energy of these other essences to be interactive with your body consciousness.

This is tremendously confusing to the body consciousness, and it DOES respond quite strongly.

In this, Michael experiences what you may term to be an extreme physical affectingness subsequent to the energy exchange, and this is, in your physical terms, quite normal, as the body consciousness is readjusting itself to his re-incorporation of his subjective communication.

But you shall notice that YOUR physical affectingness is stronger — in a manner of speaking — than even his own, for Michael has also practiced tremendously in this energy exchange, and he has allowed himself an understanding of how he may be manipulating within this energy exchange to be offering himself less physical affectingness.  This is not a thought process.  Michael is not objectively thinking of these methods that he creates.

In this, you have not allowed yourself the continuous interaction of this phenomenon.  Therefore, you do not allow yourself the awareness of how to be manipulating in conjunction with these energies, and you do not allow yourself the recognition of how you may manipulate your energy in conjunction with the physical energies of individuals, which enters in also.

VIVIEN:  That’s what I thought about in the group session.  I was feeling the energy from the other people present.

ELIAS:  Correct.  Michael has created a situation of a buffer, which blocks the energy of the individuals present....

VIVIEN:  And I’m just leaving myself wide open.

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  Yeah, I understand.

ELIAS:  Therefore, you are incorporating the one aspect of partial removal of your subjective interaction, and allowing an actual exchange with other essence energies....

VIVIEN:  Yeah, I think I can learn to recognize that from the dizziness I get sometimes, just a short, momentarily floating up.

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  So if I start to become aware of that, maybe I can say, “Okay, I can move within this differently.”  If I’m aware of it consciously, then I can....

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  Okay, that’s helpful.

ELIAS:  You may also allow yourself to be creating of an individual buffer to not be allowing yourself the reception of all of these energies of physical individuals, and this is quite affecting also.

VIVIEN:  So I can create an imaginary reflector, as such.

ELIAS:  In a manner of speaking.

VIVIEN:  So I can create a visualization of that.

ELIAS:  Quite.

VIVIEN:  I shall practice that!

ELIAS:  But be remembering of the underlying belief.

VIVIEN:  Yes, I will do that.  I understand what you’re telling me.  I have been partially aware of that.  So, that’s good.  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.

VIVIEN:  The other thing I wanted to say to you is, I had such fun on Sunday evening after the session, when James was just bouncing around and playing games with you — he said that you’d come to play with him — watching him talk to you and cowabunga-jumping off the bed!  Was that an aspect of you, or what was it exactly that took place there?

ELIAS:  An aspect of this essence....

VIVIEN:  Yes, he described the young man as 5’7” or 5’8” with blond shoulder-length hair, and so much fun!  He said, “Elias is the most fun of anyone!”  He was just high, playing with you!  I think it’s the same young man that I have seen in dreams.

ELIAS:  Yes.  This is a particular favorite projection of mine!

VIVIEN:  Yes, very nice-looking!  Last night, the same focus came to visit, and James told me that there was a blue light first, and that he watched as this blue light formed into a tiny, tiny baby — a fetus, I would imagine, is what he was trying to describe — that in front of him grew into the young man, the blond young man again.  I asked him, I said, “Ask some questions, like who is this and what’s his name?” and I just wanted to feedback with you on that.

He said that the young man said his name was Hero and that he was Australian, and when asked when he was in Australia, the answer was, “From the beginning of time.”  I thought that was really a lovely story that you gave him, to reach him to his understanding of how things are, like a fairy story kind of thing.  But the young man named Hero, what did that mean?

ELIAS:  This is an identification that the child understands.

VIVIEN:  Yes, that’s what I was thinking — the hero, the one who comes to help, to be strong, all of that kind of thing.

ELIAS:  Quite.  It is, in a manner of speaking, what he has requested, and therefore there has been a response in manifesting energy in conjunction with his request.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  He seemed to see you, or your aspect rather, as I would imagine an astral body that I see when I’m out of body and I see others or myself in that form.

ELIAS:  Quite.  It is quite similar to what you within physical focus identify as a hologram.

VIVIEN:  Yes, exactly.  That’s what he described.  He could also touch, to a point....

ELIAS:  Quite!

VIVIEN:  There was a feeling there that he had.

ELIAS:  And within your holographic images, you also allow them an element of solidity.

VIVIEN:  Yeah.  Wonderful!  Thank you.

Okay, let’s see.  The purple light: I have a purple light that I see sometimes.  It’s like an amoebic moving shape.  One particular time I was watching it, fascinated, and then a part of it broke off and came up, kind of like we see a ghostly shape with a sheet over it, but it was pink.  As I watched, more and more of them came out of this pink shape, and it was like the birth of essence, I think.  I was telling myself that this is how it comes, that it just spreads out into this movement of individuals coming out of it.  Is that what I was....

ELIAS:  This is your imagery that you have created within yourself to be offering you an objective explanation, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  Very good.  I want to ask you about this particular dream.

I saw a vast, white, kind of like a cloud, in the manner that it was the tip of the iceberg of this cloud.  I knew that it was vast beyond what I could see.  It was made of what I interpreted as strands of consciousness, like tiny little white threads that I could see this whole cloud image was made of.  I looked at it and I asked if it was Elias, and I sort of understood that it was.

The next thing I knew, I was sitting in sort of an open coach or a buggy outside of a building, and out of the building came a very attractive young Oriental woman — Chinese, I believe, like this picture I drew — who was wearing a bright blue satin dress, and I thought, “That’s Elias!”  I realized that it was you and said, “So you CAN appear in the body when you want to!”  And the personality replied, “Of course!” and then it laughed.  And then I was expecting to go off on this buggy ride adventure, and then I woke up.

James told me that when he asked you ... one night I said, “Who was the young Oriental woman?”  He said her name was Elizabeth, and we were very good friends at one time.  But I heard a name like Li-Uan associated with this individual.  Could you tell me who that was?

ELIAS:  I shall express to you, you are correct that this is a manifestation of this essence.  I shall also express to you, individuals within physical focus, many times in connecting with the energy of another focus, may filter certain elements of information through their own expressions of preferences.

In this, you may attach to a particular name of an individual, and within that tone — for each name is a tone — you may be accessing the correct, so to speak, or actual physical naming of the individual, and another individual may access a different element of tone within that same individual and be connecting to another aspect of that individual, for you hold countless aspects of yourselves.

VIVIEN:  Yes, and they’re all interwoven.

ELIAS:  Correct.

In this, as they may be connecting with another aspect, they may translate that aspect into a slightly different tone and attach a different name, and this moves in conjunction with their emotional expression with the other individual, for as they create an emotional identification of the energy that they are connecting to, this is influencing in their preference, and therefore, their attachment of naming moves into the objective expression of a preference of name.

VIVIEN:  So this was a young woman that I knew at one time?  Know, I should say.

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  What period was it historically?  She looked quite modern.

ELIAS:  This would be within your eighteenth century.

VIVIEN:  She was wearing a modern dress, though ... and why not? (Laughing)  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

VIVIEN:  The focus that I have of Darius in Greece, with my father who is Josephus, I am wondering if this Josephus, who initially I believed was a merchant of some kind, was this Josephus also the one who wrote — the Roman Josephus that I’m connecting with, the biblical writer — about the times of Jesus?

ELIAS:  The historian.

VIVIEN:  Yes, the historian.

ELIAS:  No, this is not the same individual, but this individual holds knowledge of that individual, and also creates a very similar type of action within his focus.

VIVIEN:  Yes, that’s where the connection came in.  Okay, thank you.

A quick question on one of my alien focuses that I’ve projected to.  This was the one with a very large head shaped like a jellyfish or mushroom — just a small bit of information more about that one.  I seem to feel that the communication was similar to dolphin-like sounds within this creature, clicking and whirring and high-pitched beeps, like a sonic kind of communication, and also that the action of eating was done by a sucking of nutrition into the body.

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  Within dimensions, is it like another planet, or another dimension entirely within another universe that this creature exists?

ELIAS:  This particular focus occupies another dimension, although there are other focuses within this dimension, within your known universe.

VIVIEN:  Yes, okay.  The other focus that I connected with was the South African doctor, the black African doctor.  I think I have a name, and I believe it’s Joshua M’Bebe.

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  Good!  Is he in Johannesburg?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  I had a dream where I felt I was viewing through his eyes.  I felt myself walking into a sunlit room, which I believe was either a nursing home or maybe a hospital, rehabilitation, and I looked down into this woman’s face, a black woman’s face, an older woman in a wheelchair, and she was just beaming up at me, and I could feel that this individual, Joshua, was very loved by his patients.

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  And he is also a focus who is alive now, I believe.

ELIAS:  There is an overlapping of your focuses, but I shall also express to you that this particular focus has already disengaged.

VIVIEN:  Okay, but not too far?

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  So he was alive while I’m alive, in that sense.

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  Another one, a young man — I kind of saw him, but I was wide awake, I wasn’t dreaming — dark hair, a nice-looking young man about seventeen, maybe nineteen years old, and I got the name John or Jordan.  I think he’s alive now, and I think he’s American.  I asked him who he was and he said, “I’m you.”  And I thought, okay, we have another focus here, I think.

ELIAS:  Jordan.

VIVIEN:  Okay, and he’s an American?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  Hmm.  Alright, I’ll see if I can get some more about him.

In another dream ... this goes to my interest in channeling my own essence, Miriam.  I had a dream where I’m with two women, and they ask me to give them some information, and I do it.  I’m quite amazed that I have this information that just comes through, and quite well, but I have to concentrate very hard.  They speak to me, and I’m very upset because I’m distracted by this and I can’t get it.  So in the dream, I’m wondering if I’m giving myself information that I’m moving into that action.

ELIAS:  Yes, although I shall express to you that within the probabilities that you are creating presently, you are not moving into the action of verbalization in this creation, but you are creating a movement in allowance of accessing information through essence, and this is purposeful in your particular movement, in the allowance of yourself to be accessing the remembrance.

VIVIEN:  That makes sense.  Thank you.  Here’s one I didn’t really want to talk about, but I want to at the same time.  This was a dream which I think is connected with a focus which I find quite repulsive.

I found myself looking at a family; a grandfather, a grandmother, and a toddler, maybe two or three years old.  They had a filthy home with dirty straw matting for beds, an earth floor — filthy everywhere.  It was as if animals lived in there with them, and they were not very nice to look at either, quite repulsive to me physically to look at.  I think it’s maybe medieval Europe, and the people, I believe, are either German or Dutch, or maybe even English.  I’m not sure.

The grandfather was lying on a bed.  The grandmother comes in with this little toddler and gives the little toddler to the grandfather, who is lying down.  I didn’t stay to watch, but the only thing that I felt was that this was going to be some kind of sexual interaction with the grandfather and the child, and I didn’t stay because I did not want to view this.  But it’s been bothering me enough that I want to ask about it.  What have I viewed?  Is it another focus of myself?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  Oh boy.  Which one was I?

ELIAS:  The male individual.

VIVIEN:  The grandfather?

ELIAS:  Correct.

This also is quite purposeful, that you have offered yourself an interaction with this imagery, for this addresses to aspects of this belief system within this present wave in consciousness, and allows you the opportunity to view elements that you ...

VIVIEN:  Find repulsive.

ELIAS:  ... attach quite strongly to in judgments.

VIVIEN:  Oh yes.

ELIAS:  In this, these types of experiences that you allow yourself offers you the opportunity to view self and to be accepting of all of yourself.

VIVIEN:  Yes, every aspect of myself.

ELIAS:  Quite, and therefore allowing you to be more accepting of other individuals also.

VIVIEN:  So this is quite beneficial ...

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  ... that I allowed myself to view this.  I can see that, but I still don’t like it very much.  It’ll take some more movement into acceptance with this one, but I’m glad I talked about it at last.

Let’s see, what’s next.  Oh, my black spidery thing.  Ever since I can remember, I’ve been dreaming that a spider is dangling in front of me, and then I wake up and I still see it.  It’s not a spider — it’s a small black shape.  In the past it’s been quite small, about the size of a small spider, and then it kind of fades away.

But recently I’ve been seeing it more and more, but the spider is turning more into a mass of black threads.  The last one I saw was maybe the size of a large grapefruit, maybe a little bigger than that.  And again I saw it in my dream, and then I woke up, and physically it was still there, and it took a long time before it faded.  It didn’t really fade, it just kind of floated away.  I knew it wasn’t a spider, but I’d like to know what I’m connecting with.

ELIAS:  What you have allowed yourself previously in this experience is the identification of self in one essence.  You allow a manifestation of energy that you may objectively view.  This is your continuation of input, so to speak, to yourself, of identification of self as an individual essence.

Now as this energy collection grows, you are incorporating imagery of yourself as essence in conjunction and intertwined and interconnected with many essences in family.

VIVIEN:  Oh, okay.  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

VIVIEN:  I think I’ll continue to see this thing too.

Okay — oh yes!  I know what I wanted.  The focus that I thought was mine, the American Indian focus, but it was counterpart, I believe I have viewed the interaction there.  It was a man.  I believe my name was either John or Frank Richardson and I was a fur trapper, and I believe the American Indian’s name, the shaman, he was White Hawk. (Pause)

ELIAS:  You are correct.

VIVIEN:  Ah, now this leads me into Linda’s pony express rider.  I believe that my personality, my individual focus of Frank or John Richardson, was brothers with the pony express rider, because I view them as looking very much alike.  I’m kind of guessing on this one, but I have a feeling that they are related, and possibly as brothers.

ELIAS:  These individuals bear similarities in physical manifestation, but they are not related in family.  They do hold relationship in friendship.

VIVIEN:  Oh, they know each other then.

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  What were their names?  My name was Frank Richardson or John Richardson?

ELIAS:  Francis.

VIVIEN:  Francis.

ELIAS:  Frank, yes.

VIVIEN:  And the pony express rider, of Linda’s focus?

ELIAS:  Edward.

VIVIEN:  Edward, okay.  And the last name?

ELIAS:  Powell.

VIVIEN:  Edward Powell, and they were friends, and they did look alike.  Wow, that’s interesting!  Thank you.

Alright, next.  I was awake one night — couldn’t get back to sleep.  It was about four o’clock in the morning, and I literally watched a dream form, objectively watched a dream form.  I saw a table appear, then some plates and some other things, and it was as though these things were lit from within, and they emerged into the blackness.  I was fascinated by this, but I knew that it was a dream forming, and I watched it.  Is that correct?

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct, and in like manner, your objectively reality forms also.

VIVIEN:  Yes, exactly!  I was aware of that.  I knew that it was one of those double things, that this is how it goes there, and that is how it comes into this as well.  Wow, that was neat!

Okay, next dream.  I dreamt that a friend of mine, Elaine, was ... well, I looked at a boat and I saw a pair of feet sticking out of a rug, and I got into the water and I knew it was Elaine, and I pulled her out and she lived, but she told my that it was “foul play.”  What was going on with Elaine?  I hope this isn’t a precognitive dream!

ELIAS:  No.

VIVIEN:  Good!

ELIAS:  This is also imagery that you have offered to yourself in conjunction with the previous imagery which is distasteful to you, in allowing you the opportunity to view your responses, your automatic responses to certain situations or suggestions.  This allows you....

VIVIEN:  So I’ve done sexual problems, and now we’re doing murder! (Cracking up)

ELIAS:  This offers you the opportunity to view the strength of your automatic responses that you may be addressing to within yourself.

VIVIEN:  Now let’s see what I can do next! (Laughing)

Okay, here’s another one.  My brother — I dreamt that he died, and there’s a few details I want to ask you about it.  This is part of the dream, that I was at home with my mother, and my father was still alive, and my brother was missing.  My father had gone to look for him.  My father came in the back of the house and said to me that he’d found Graham, my brother, in the park, and that he was dead.  He said he was lying down on the grass, and looked like he was sleeping.  My father said to me, “I made him look nice.”

I went there and I found him looking very peaceful.  A blue towel was over him like a blanket.  I returned home and went upstairs to see my mother, thinking my dad had told her, but he hadn’t, and when I told her, she was utterly distraught.

The next thing is, I was trying to contact a friend to tell him — he was somewhere in England but I couldn’t find him — and I looked out to the park where I knew my brother Graham was lying, and I saw vultures flying around him.  Let’s see, I’ll leave that bit out.

I was crying terribly.  I was terribly upset, and I was wondering what on earth I was going to do with the business, his house, his things, his partner and her daughter, her son Robert, and most of all, my mother.  How was I going to sort all this out?  Personal responsibility issues I’m sure are in there somewhere, but if you’d please comment on the death of my brother.

ELIAS:  This also, once again, is imagery that you are presenting to yourself, that you may examine your responses, your behaviors, and how you view the creations of other individuals, and your automatic assessments and behaviors in conjunction with the choices that other individuals are creating.

VIVIEN:  So this isn’t precognitive, that my brother is going to die.

ELIAS:  No.

VIVIEN:  Good.

ELIAS:  This is an expression, that you may view all of these different elements, all of these different interactions and creations and choices of other individuals and your responsiveness to all of these interactions, for in this, you may more efficiently address to your beliefs and your strengths in your expressions.

At times, you create extremes in your expressions, and you create a tremendous intensity of your expressions in responsiveness to what you view as outside influencing, and this may be helpful to you if you are allowing yourself the exploration of all of these different aspects of beliefs, and how you — in each aspect — create certain consistencies in automatic responses.

VIVIEN:  Yes, I understand.  There is another dream I had here also, with my father-in-law and his wife, and my understanding from that dream wasn’t that ... I didn’t see that anybody had died and nothing in the dream really was about that, but my stepmother-in-law was distraught, and I had the feeling that perhaps my father-in-law was disengaging soon.  So I’m wondering if maybe that is related to this also, or was this perhaps precognitive?

ELIAS:  This is related to the same subject matter.  This is a very strong belief and holds very strong responses within individuals, and therefore it may be viewed quite obviously in the assessment of other individuals’ responsiveness and your own responsiveness.

In this also, I shall express to you — for this is pertinent to our earlier discussion also in relation to the energy exchange — I shall express to you in like manner to what I have offered with Lawrence.

The intensity of your objective expression is not necessarily the measure of your involvement, your expressions in physical focus.

You lean in the direction of creating intensities, and this is not in actuality the measure of your concern.  Your affection, your wishing to be helpful, your supportiveness, all of these physical projections of energy that you create are merely what they are.  Your involvement of emotional expressions in conjunction with these projections of energy are not measured “more” merely for the reason that you express more intensely.

VIVIEN:  Yes, I understand.  I understand, thank you.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

VIVIEN:  I’ve had three very good out-of-body experiences.  In one of them I successfully floated out of my body, and I became aware that in the top corner of the bedroom, there was another being up there, also in astral form.  It was a very odd shape, and initially I thought it was maybe some kind of alien focus, but as I looked again, I believed it was a young man that I had met, a crippled young man.  I believe it’s called encephalitis, but he is physically probably at the stage of a two or three-year-old, it appears anyway.

When I met this young man, I talked to him quite a bit, as if he understood me completely, which I’m sure he did in other levels of consciousness.  As I looked at this shape, I believed it was him, that he came to visit me in astral form.  He floated down to me, and I wasn’t afraid.  It was just as though, “What is he doing here?”  But I think he just came to visit, to say hello.  Is that correct?

ELIAS:  (Nodding)  And to be interactive, yes.

VIVIEN:  Yes, and I was wondering how aware ... this is hard for me, for us, to understand when somebody has that kind of creation of their physical being.  When I was talking to him and when other people talk to him, how much does he understand objectively of what we’re saying to him?

ELIAS:  In the terms of your objective understanding, little.

VIVIEN:  Yes.

ELIAS:  For there is a continuous translation which is occurring into a different type of understanding and evaluation.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  Does he connect then with the intent and feeling that is projected to him, the emotion that is projected to him, more?

ELIAS:  This also is received through a very different type of translation.  There is a choice to be exploring this physical reality in a very abstract manner, and there is much interaction created more in alignment with your officially accepted objective reality in projection.

VIVIEN:  Interesting.  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

VIVIEN:  Alright, the next thing I want to ask you about, which I think is another focus of mine:  As I was beginning to drift off to sleep — I wasn’t quite asleep — I began to see a room as though I were floating above it and seeing it through maybe like a dark glass.  There were tobacco brown leather chairs, and a man was wearing a dark suit.  It wasn’t an office — I think it was maybe somebody’s home.

Then I saw another place which seemed more like a large glass entry, like in a big office building, like a high-rise office building, and I sensed marble floors, and I think there were escalators in this building, and also a man in a suit.  I don’t know if it was the same man, but I think it was.  Also, it was dark glass that I was looking through.  The first man’s name, I believe, is John Silverman, and I think he’s a lawyer, and I think he is alive now, maybe in New York; I have a feeling of New York about him.

ELIAS:  Future.

VIVIEN:  Oh, future.  Then he is my focus, one of my essence focuses?

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  Is he about 2025, around that time?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  And is he a lawyer?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  That’s another one I’ve connected with.  Thank you.

Alright, a quick question about Gerhard and Elisabeth.  The focus that I had when I was one of four children — quadruplets, Japanese — I have a feeling that Gerhard and Elisabeth were our parents at that time in Japan.

ELIAS:  You are correct.

VIVIEN:  You were!  Mom and Dad, welcome! (Laughing)  Gerhard, I believe, at that time was ... I see him with a brush, writing or something.

ELIAS:  Painting.

VIVIEN:  Painting; you were painting.  He was an artist, and quite high up, I believe, in the system of class; we were quite well off.

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  And this would be around the 11th or 12th century?

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  Thank you.  And the part of Japan I don’t know. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Near the physical present location of what you identify as Tokyo.

VIVIEN:  Tokyo.  And was there connection with the Emperor? (Pause)  Interaction with?

ELIAS:  In infrequent interaction, yes, and infrequent interaction with court, yes.

VIVIEN:  Yes, exactly.  Okay, thank you.

Okay, next one.  I’ve had several dreams where I’m with my husband, and we are either boating or swimming down canals.

In one of these dreams, we were swimming, and beneath the water we noticed something moving, and as it surfaced, we saw that it was a young boy on what appeared to be a motorized surfboard.

In another dream, we were being taken along these canals by a man in a hat — he looked like a fishing kind of man — but the boat that he was using was like a hollowed-out log, but wide, but open at either end, so that you would think that it would sink and the water would come into it, but he was just paddling along with this funny boat with the open ends, and we were on this boat also, or others of our own, moving along these canals.

At one point I am separated from Jim — he kind of goes ahead of me — and he goes one way up the canal and I go the other way up the canal, and I come to a house at the end of this canal, and there’s a woman there — I don’t know whose house this is, I have no clue — and we’re separated at this point.  But the dream seemed to be moving along these canals, and I’m wondering what I’m giving myself imagery of.

ELIAS:  This imagery that you present is an expression in symbology, so to speak.  It is a creation of your symbolic imagery to yourself in being a traveler with your partner, and as you are traveling together, you also present yourselves at times with elements that appear to be impossible, but are expressed regardless.

You also view that you move in different directions at times, but you continue to be traveling throughout these canals together.  In this, you are creating imagery to yourself that you are merely travelers experiencing together, and you are not “spiritual counselors” to each other. (Grinning)

VIVIEN:  Oh, that’s for sure! (Laughing)  That’s more than apparent!  Thank you.  That explains that very well.

In another dream with my husband, he was in bed and very unwell, and there were tubes coming from his stomach and his bowels, and these tubes were leading to one bowl and emptying out, and I was very concerned that there was going to be cross-contamination with this.  He hasn’t been sick at all — he hardly ever gets sick — and I was just wondering what this imagery was about.

ELIAS:  (Grinning)  This, once again ...

VIVIEN:  Oh, here we go! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  ... is another offering in imagery to yourself, in how you view certain elements and the strength of your directions in this.

You may view in this particular dream the expression of fearfulness and rigidity, for your assessment of the situation is quite rigid.  There must be separation of certain elements within your reality or there shall be contamination ... and a fear of this contamination.  Therefore, once again, you offer yourself the opportunity to view the strength of your automatic directions and responses.

VIVIEN:  I certainly did that.  The other one I wanted to ask you about ... thank you for that.

Another dream:  I was home in England, in the park that’s behind my mother’s house.  There’s a large pavilion, and I think I was living in this pavilion.

I’m looking out to the park, with the lake and all the flowers and trees and everything, and there are hundreds of children riding bicycles wearing these bright pink helmets — BRIGHT pink helmets — and I’m very happy that James has all these children to play with.

The pink helmets seemed to be the wave in consciousness, with the entrance of Rose and the children’s interaction with all of this, but I wanted your explanation of this.

ELIAS:  This IS imagery in conjunction with the participation of Rose within this shift in consciousness, but also a recognition that the essence of Rose is merely a representative of this particular essence family, and that this essence family is quite interactive and directing, so to speak — in conjunction with the Vold — of this shift in consciousness.

You image to yourself the small ones in recognition that all of the focuses which choose to be manifest presently newly — in what you identify as children or small ones — as quite influenced by these essence families — are manifesting with much more of an objective awareness and more of an objective allowance, as they choose to be manifesting within the time framework of this shift in consciousness.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.

VIVIEN:  Another dream, just recently; it was the most recent dream I’ve had, and it was little bit disturbing.

I was in this house, and I looked out the window and a van drove up, a white van, and out of it came maybe nine or ten young black men, young men, and dressed like a gang, and I thought, “Why are they in this van?”  On the side of the van it had four letters, and it was something like E-I-D-T or something like that, or E-I-M-T, but I understood that this was Disney ... why Disney, I don’t know.  But the young men got out, and one of them started coming up to the door, and I was concerned; I’m not too happy about this situation.

There were people outside — although the street wasn’t this street, it was different entirely, and also there was no garden in the front — and there were red plastic tapes like construction people put to mark out different lots of land.  I saw the neighbors out and about, and I went to the door, and I was deciding whether I was going to open it or not.  I decided that I would open it, but that I would put the chain on the door, just for a little safety.  The doorbell rang and I opened the door, and the man tells me they’re from Disney, and they’ve come to do some work for the house.  I tell him I don’t know anything about any work for the house, and he’s not going to come in.

He puts his foot in the door and starts shouldering the door open, and he says he’s come to kidnap and rape me.  At this point I push the door closed and manage to get it shut, and I try to get to the telephone, but it’s been cut.  Then they get into the van and drive away.  I go outside and go across to a neighbor, who I think his name is Ambrose; where that comes into it, I don’t know.  There is a white plastic sword in the road, a child’s white plastic sword, by itself.  It was a very peculiar dream, but I’d like to know what it means.

ELIAS:  This imagery moves in conjunction also with the other expressions of imagery, but incorporates another element in this, of your viewing and assessment that within certain situations, as you identify them objectively OR subjectively, that you need be creating a type of shielding and protection around yourself, and this shall separate you from that which you view to be fearful.  But in actuality, the fearfulness is within, and the outside expression that appears to be creating the fearfulness is not what is creating of this fearfulness in actuality.

Therefore, as you venture, so to speak, outside once the threat has disappeared, you view what appears to be an inadequate expression of protection, but this is also imagery that you are expressing to yourself [of] the lack of necessity for this element of protection, and in this, you identify that the fear is offered through yourself and not by the expressions of other individuals.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  I think that I was aware of that, even in the middle of the dream.

ELIAS:  Quite.

VIVIEN:  I became aware of that part of it.  That’s why I decided to open the door, because I knew that I was safe.  Even if it seemed to be threatening, I was safe, as it turned out.  Thank you, yes.

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

VIVIEN:  (To Vic)  Do we have time for a little more?

VICKI:  It’s almost noon now.

VIVIEN:  Oh, okay.  Then we should probably stop.

ELIAS:  Very well.

VIVIEN:  Thank you very much.

ELIAS:  I offer to you much lovingness and encouragement in your continuation of your investigations.

VIVIEN:  I seem to be moving through a lot of issues and beliefs.

ELIAS:  And allowing yourself to be surfacing many....

VIVIEN:  Yes, exactly.  I think probably this is more imagery of the physical moves that we are doing.  It looks like we have another one coming up from this house.  Can I have one second?  In probabilities, I would really like to know, the next move that we do, will this be within Florida more likely, or will we be able at last to move into a house of our own and get settled?

ELIAS:  Ah!  And this would be ...

VIVIEN:  I know!  My choice!

ELIAS:  ... dependent upon the energy ...

VIVIEN:  I know!

ELIAS:  ... that you create! (Grinning)

VIVIEN:  I’m putting out a lot to create my own house, I really am!  I’m moving in that direction, but I know that you can look into probabilities.

ELIAS:  And I shall not, for I shall offer to you, this also offers you an opportunity to view your efficiency and your ability to be creating the reality that you choose.

VIVIEN:  Quite.

ELIAS:  Therefore, YOU may project that energy! (Grinning)

VIVIEN:  (Laughing)  I had a feeling you were going to say that. (Elias chuckles)  Thank you anyway.  I appreciate it.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.  I express to you this day much affection.

VIVIEN:  Much affection to you too.  Nice to see you objectively.

ELIAS:  Au revoir.

VIVIEN:  Au revoir.

Elias departs at 12:00 PM.

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