Monday, April 12, 1999   © 1999 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and Vivien (Miriam).
Elias arrives at 1:22 PM. (Arrival time is 17 seconds)

ELIAS:  Good afternoon!

VIVIEN:  Oh, hello, Elias!  It’s nice to hear your voice again!

ELIAS:  And we meet again!

VIVIEN:  We do indeed.  You are “as always,” I’m sure! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  Quite! (Grinning)

VIVIEN:  Yes.  I’ve got lots and lots of questions for you today, and I’d like to begin by asking how many human focuses I have.

ELIAS:  Let me inquire to you, are you wishing for total number or the number in which you may access easily, as holding similar tone to yourself?

VIVIEN:  Oh, now that’s interesting.  Both, I think, would be interesting to know ...

ELIAS:  Very well.

VIVIEN:  ... how many total, and how many I can access.

ELIAS:  As to those numbering in which you hold similar tone, this would be seventeen.  As to total numbering of focuses within this dimension, fifty-two.

VIVIEN:  Fifty-two.  That includes the number seventeen?

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  Ah, that’s a lot, quite a lot!  Okay, and the other question I would like, which essence am I fragmented from? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Essence fragmentation would be that extended of mergence from the essences of Kal, Mystof, Jacob, and Alice.

VIVIEN:  That’s a just slew of them!

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  How interesting!  Is that normal?

ELIAS:  This is quite common, that an essence may be fragmented of several essences.  As essences merge together, they may be fragmenting of new essences that may hold qualities which are created by the mergence of these several essences.

VIVIEN:  Oh, okay.  Interesting!  I didn’t realize that.  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

VIVIEN:  And one further question.  Do I have any focuses that are well-known or famous in any way? (Pause)

ELIAS:  You hold one focus in the physical location of South Africa in which the individual is known well, but would not necessarily be considered famous.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  Is it a male?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  I’ve got an image which reminds me of ... not Nelson Mandela, but somebody who looks like that.

ELIAS:  Correct, and holds the profession of a physician.

VIVIEN:  Oh, okay.  I’ll see if I can work on getting some more information on that myself.

ELIAS:  Very well.

VIVIEN:  Great.  Thank you.  Okay, the other questions I’d like to start off with are connections that I think I’ve made with other focuses of myself.  They may be probable selves or something — I’m not sure — but I’ll go with focuses for the time being.  Perhaps you could tell me whether I’m on the right track or not with them.  One, I believe, is a prostitute, female. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  I was watching a television program the other day about a prostitute whose name was Phoebe, and the name of this film was “Harnessing Peacocks.”  It was interesting to me in particular, because the character of Phoebe, as a prostitute, was completely the opposite of the archetypal prostitute, and the clients were also very different, and the whole set of the entire movie was one of the prostitute’s position being one that was envied by everybody else!  It gave me a new lease on the idea I’ve had on prostitutes before.

ELIAS:  Within certain cultures, this is correct, that they may be viewed in this manner.

VIVIEN:  Yeah, and I think the prostitute that I have as a focus is ... it’s not considered a bad profession.

ELIAS:  You are correct.

VIVIEN:  Ah!  What country is she in?

ELIAS:  Turkey.

VIVIEN:  Oh, in Turkey.  Okay, thank you.  I’ll work on her myself.  Another focus that I’ve made contact with, I think, is a woman called Ruby.  I believe she’s Polish and Jewish.  She seems to be short and stocky with short dark hair.  I think she is not exactly stupid, but maybe simple-minded, and I think perhaps she died in Auschwitz or one of the holocaust areas. (Pause)

ELIAS:  You are correct, and this individual disengaged within the camp which you term to be Buchenwald.

VIVIEN:  Buchenwald, okay.  Was she about mid-thirties?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  She seemed to be a very lovely individual. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Partially.  Within what you term to be later years of the focus, before disengagement, yes; but as a child, not necessarily.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  The next one is, I see a young man.  He’s tall and slim.  He has shoulder-length golden-blonde hair, and is probably in his twenties.  He seems to be separated from a crowd of people that he’s going on stage to talk to.  I think his name might be Jonathan, and I think he may be a future focus. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Future focus, correct; Johann.

VIVIEN:  Johann.  Is he a focus of mine?

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  Okay, I’ll work on him too.  The next one I have is a male, an American Indian, and I think he may be an Apache shaman. (Pause)

ELIAS:  This is not a focus.

VIVIEN:  Excuse me.  I can’t hear you very well.

Vic’s note:  And I can’t hear YOU very well, Vivien!  I guess we’ll just muddle along together here!

ELIAS:  This is not a focus.  This would be a counterpart that you have connected to within the time framework of another focus of yours.

VIVIEN:  Oh, okay.  I think I shall work on that one some more, then.  Does he have either “feather” or “eagle” in his name? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Hawk.

VIVIEN:  Hawk, okay.  That’s enough!  Thank you.  I believe I have a female, perhaps an aristocrat, in the French Revolution time.  Is her name possibly Franscoise? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  I think she escapes, though, to England.

ELIAS:  Temporarily, yes.

VIVIEN:  She got caught later?

ELIAS:  No, but returned....

VIVIEN:  After all the troubles died down?

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  Okay, very good.  I’m not quite sure, but did I know you at that time in France, during the revolution? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Briefly, as an acquaintance.

VIVIEN:  Alright.  The next one I have is a Greek girl.  I believe her name is either Dorcus or Dorius or Darius.  I see her in a house by the ocean, living with her father and seemingly alone with her father, and her father’s name, I think, perhaps is Josephus.

ELIAS:  Yosephus and Darius, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  Darius, okay.  I’ll work on her too.  Also, I saw several oriental faces, perhaps a couple of weeks ago, very, very clearly, almost as if they were standing right in front of me; older people.  I think several of them, maybe two or three or so, were me.  But there was one Chinese woman wearing sort of grayish-black pants and jacket.  I think it may have been Michael, who was my mother in that time, in China.

ELIAS:  You are correct.  Michael holds several focuses in this particular location.

VIVIEN:  Ah!  And the other focuses that I saw, are they of me, the male and the female? (Pause)

ELIAS:  One; male.

VIVIEN:  Ah.  He seemed to be greeting me and quite aware of me.

ELIAS:  In part.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  I’ll see if I can get more information on him too.  Alright, the next one, I think, may be a focus in a palace, perhaps in Persia.  I don’t know whether I was a princess or a queen, but I was a female in this palace, and in quite a good position. (Pause)

ELIAS:  This would not be a position of royalty, but it would be a position of status within court.

VIVIEN:  Alright, and I’m female?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  Okay, I’ll work on that one too.  I’d like to go to my Ethiopian focus, where I was a female with a beautiful little boy, who you’ve already told me is my present son at another time, and I’d like to check some names.  I’ve got the name of the self that I was: Anaaka, or Anaka? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Anatas.

VIVIEN:  Ah, Anatas!  That’s pretty close!  And the little boy, I think, is Moboto or Moto?

ELIAS:  Moto.

VIVIEN:  Ah, okay.  Thank  you!  I believe I was married to the chief, or a high status individual.  I think I was one of several wives that he had.

ELIAS:  The successor to what you would term to be the chief.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  I seemed to be living in this little round hut by myself, though.  He would visit me, but not live with me.

ELIAS:  This would be what you would term as typical of the culture.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  Okay, thank you.

Now to the focus where I was a quadruplet, and my present son was another one of those four.  I still haven’t gotten the other two, but I think we were either all boys, or three boys and one girl, and I believe we were either Japanese or possibly South American, Peruvian. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Japan.

VIVIEN:  Ah, okay.  Thank you very much!  The next one.  I believe I had a focus who worked in the library in Alexandria, and I believe I worked alongside another person who is my present brother, Graham. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  Very good.  Male?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  Was that the time when I had a brief acquaintance with you in Egypt? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  I’ll work on that some more.  Okay, another focus is an old Greek man.  He’s quite clear.  He has glittery black eyes, and I see him walking in olive groves with a donkey; name, possibly Dimitri. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Naming, Damarius.

VIVIEN:  Damarius.  Wow, got it!  Did he live on an island in Greece? (Pause)

ELIAS:  No.

VIVIEN:  Okay, I’ll work on him some more.  Alright.  Another focus, I believe, is a fashion model, and I believe works in the house of Karl Lagerfeld. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  Is her name Tina?

ELIAS:  Correct, although this is not the birth name.

VIVIEN:  Would it be Christina? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  Okay, thank you.  Alright, another question.

In a dream or an out-of-body, I’m not quite sure what it was, I saw you presented as a young, slim, blond male; curly, shoulder-length hair, very blonde, white blonde hair, very blue eyes.  I also had a dream where I saw Michael as a female who looked like that too, and I’m wondering, in the dream, the imagery was such that my present husband Jim and I were your parents, and that you and Michael were twins to us at that time. (Pause)

ELIAS:  This imagery that you present yourself with is partially concerning the twins of Michael and Lawrence, and is also a communication that you are offering yourself of the connection which is present between the three essences; two manifesting.

In this, you image yourself and your partner as the parents, in a manner of speaking, for you are recognizing of certain qualities that you experience within this focus ... a feeling of nurturing and protectiveness.  These qualities are generally assigned, within your beliefs, to the role of parents.  Therefore, you create this type of imagery to be offering yourself this communication.

VIVIEN:  Yes, okay.  Alright then.  Thank you very much!

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

VIVIEN:  Alright, let’s see.  Another image I have is, I believe, when you and I were very good friends, male, in France.  I have a picture of us in sort of like a basement area, like a drinking area within an inn.  We both had dark hair, and another person is with us, which I believe is either Ron or Vic, as another male, but heavier-set.  I was just wondering if that was a French focus where we were very good friends.

ELIAS:  This is correct, and this other individual would be Olivia.

VIVIEN:  Ah, okay!  So we were having a really good time during that focus! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)  It was a lot of fun!

Alright, now for the alien focuses I believe I’ve contacted.  There was one, very, very clear, almost reptilian in appearance; male, I would say, and humanoid, but the facial features reminded me of a reptile of sorts, wide-apart eyes and a hard sort of skinned body.  One that I saw looking at me in the eyes, it was like a greeting, a smile of greeting, but an affected smile, although it wasn’t really a smile.  Another male with that one was also greeting me, or that was my interpretation of it anyway.

ELIAS:  I am acknowledging of your accomplishment in this area!

VIVIEN:  So it was real?  Whoa!  Very unusual! (Elias chuckles)  Would it make any sense to me if you told me more?

ELIAS:  No, it would not.  Other dimensions holding other physical focuses are not easily translated into this dimension, and this holds in like manner in the reverse.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  It was a very unusual experience!  It didn’t last very long, but it was quite clear.

ELIAS:  You shall notice that in your encounters with other-dimensional focuses, they shall appear to you to be brief initially, for much of what you are viewing is a translation, that you may understand your connection and that you also may not be experiencing fearfulness.

VIVIEN:  Yeah, like terror!  If I came across a reptilian humanoid like that in this focus, I’d have quite a start! (Elias chuckles)

The other alien encounter was more of a dream or an out-of-body, quite a little while ago, but I’ve been trying to figure it out myself.  The creature that I saw was standing like a human, but the head was enormous, and shaped like a mushroom or a jellyfish, with sort of tendrils hanging down from it.  The forearms seemed to be either long sticks or holding onto long sticks, and there was some connection with you, and a cave of some kind. (Pause)

ELIAS:  You have accomplished your connection in this area also.  This would be what you term to be an out-of-body experience in which you have penetrated a veil dimensionally and have intersected another focus of your essence within another dimension.

In this, I hold interactiveness within other dimensions, but they would be different aspects of this essence than the aspects of which you are familiar with in interaction in this energy exchange.  Therefore, you may identify a type of familiarity that you shall translate into an identification of myself, but you also shall not necessarily entirely connect with the aspect which is interactive within that dimension, for it also holds much unfamiliarity to you.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  It was very unfamiliar surroundings.  The whole place was very strange, although I felt quite comfortable.

ELIAS:  There is no need for distress or fearfulness as you are engaging this type of activity, and if you are allowing yourself to be projecting through these veils and exploring other-dimensional focuses, you may be quite fascinated with what you are encountering, and you shall also validate to yourself that you need not be experiencing fearfulness, for no harmfulness shall befall you.

VIVIEN:  Yes, I understand that, but it’s a little bit different when you’re actually in the experience!  I’ll have to work on holding on to that safety, that feeling of safety. (Elias chuckles)

Another alien focus, what is commonly called the grays, I think I have focus there as well; female, or what would be the equivalent of what a female would be.

ELIAS:  Now; let me express to you that this particular manifestation of what you term to be extraterrestrials is not in actuality an actual dimensional focus.  It is a translation.

In this, you are connecting with another focus interdimensionally, but what is appearing to you is a manifestation that you may identify with, for this particular dimension that many of you connect with in this physical focus does not hold any familiarity to you in form.  Therefore, you assign a form commonly to this particular entity, so to speak.

VIVIEN:  Okay, I understand.  We translate in ways that we can relate to in our own objective knowledge.

ELIAS:  Quite.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  I understand.  Okay, thank you.  Can I go on?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  Alright.  The focus that I have as Miriam, back in Judea, first century, was that personality related to Mary and Jesus in any way, by family?

ELIAS:  No.

VIVIEN:  No, okay.  The other thing I wanted to ask is the essence names of Mary and of Jesus. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Essence name held by the focus of Mary, Sheen.  Essence name held by the focus of Jesus, Telleth.

VIVIEN:  Telleth.  Okay, thank you.

The other thing I wanted to ask is about All That Is.  Is there a tone or an essence name that can be applied to All That Is?

ELIAS:  There would be no designation of what you term to be an essence name and there would be no individual tone, for All That Is is all of consciousness, and therefore is encompassed with all of the tones of all essences, and beyond.

VIVIEN:  I just wondered if that would translate into anything that I would understand or that we would understand.

ELIAS:  Within your identification in physical focus, this would be beyond thought process.  Now; this is not to say that you may not allow yourself the ability for understanding, but your understanding shall not be within the form of thought process.  You may be allowing yourself to be assimilating this information within conceptualization or experience, but not within an understanding which is translated into rational terms.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  Thank you very much.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.

VIVIEN:  Next question.  Jesus ... when the whole crucifixion thing was over and done with, and I understand that he did not die in the crucifixion, but did he go to India after that?  Did he die there? (Pause)

ELIAS:  The actual individual did travel throughout what you would term to be your present middle eastern and eastern locations.  Another focus of that essence in that same time framework also was manifest within a different continent, that of your Americas, and this be the reason that you have created your myths in this area also.  But the individual of which you speak did not disengage within what you view to be the country of India.

VIVIEN:  Oh.  Where did he finally die? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Within the area of Macedonia.

VIVIEN:  Oh, okay.  How old was he?

ELIAS:  Within physical years, fifty-one years.

VIVIEN:  Did he marry and have children?

ELIAS:  No.

VIVIEN:  Okay, I was wrong on that.  I thought he did.  Thank you.  I’ll clarify and find out for myself.

The next thing.  I have a question about Michael and a counterpart I think I’ve seen of hers.  There’s a lady here in Fort Lauderdale who sells newspapers, and every time I see her, I think of Michael/Mary, and I was wondering if they are counterparts.

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  How very nice!  She smiles and waves to me, even though I am a complete stranger to her!  Obviously there‘s a recognition there of some kind. (Elias chuckles)  Interesting!

Also — this may be an odd question — I’ve always had a fascination with serial killers, with anomalies, either human or otherwise, all the exceptions that there are in people whose behavior is extreme in some way.  It fascinates me psychologically, but I’m also wondering, do I have a focus who is a serial killer? (Pause)

ELIAS:  No.

VIVIEN:  Oh good! (Laughing)  Not to be judgmental, but I’m glad!

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  Although you do hold two focuses in which you would presently classify your behavior as a manifestation of mental illness.

VIVIEN:  Ah!  I think I connect with them quite a bit! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  I express to you quite playfully, be remembering that WE do not label this choice of manifestation as “illness.” (Chuckling)

VIVIEN:  Was one of those perhaps an anomaly in some way, with physical features that are unusual?

ELIAS:  Yes....

VIVIEN:  Does any one of my focuses, perhaps, have an unusual physical appearance?

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  What exactly is the appearance of this one?  It is a freak of some kind, what we would term to be a freak?

ELIAS:  In your terms.  This is quite judgmental, is it not?

VIVIEN:  Oh, I know.  I understand what I am saying here.  I don’t mean it judgmentally.  But from the way we would describe a human being, he would be physically deformed?

ELIAS:  You are correct. (Grinning)

VIVIEN:  What kind of deformity is it?

ELIAS:  This individual holds a different type of manifestation of extremities — hands and feet — and also has chosen a unique shaping of physical head.

VIVIEN:  Ah!  Would this be something like thalidomide, the drug thalidomide that was used that deformed children’s arms and legs?

ELIAS:  Not necessarily.  This focus has chosen this particular type of manifestation purposefully, but I shall express to you that this also is previous to your inventions, so to speak, of substances that you believe to be causing these types of mutations. (Chuckling)

VIVIEN:  Alright, a question about you affecting stuff.  I have an alarm system in this house that we don’t have hooked up right now — the alarm is switched off — but every now and again it rings three times, and I was just wondering if you were having some fun?

ELIAS:  (Laughing)  And you are noticing, and I am acknowledging of your noticing, for this is not harmful, but merely an expression of playfulness!

VIVIEN:  Well, I’ve been taking it that way, but I was wondering if you were ringing it every time I had a good idea or a bad idea!

ELIAS:  HA HA HA!  At times I may be acknowledging, but at times I may merely be choosing to allow you the knowing of my presence.

VIVIEN:  Well, it’s nice to have you around so often!

ELIAS:  HA HA!  This is also purposeful, let me express to you, for individuals within this time framework, as they are continuing in their connection with this information, may be experiencing feelings of disconnection with myself or that I may not necessarily be paying attention.  Therefore, I have been engaging playful activity with many individuals, yourself also, to be allowing you the remembrance that I am aware and that I am interactive, regardless of your doubtfulness at times.

VIVIEN:  Ah, that’s very nice.  Thank you!

ELIAS:  You are quite welcome.

VIVIEN:  Another question.  I recently read a book called Abraham Speaks, and the personality of Abraham is something like the energy exchange with you and Seth, and Abraham sometimes sounds like you, and I was just wondering if he was another Sumafi teacher. (Pause)

ELIAS:  No.  This would not be an expression of Sumafi, and there may be certain areas which shall deviate from the least amount of distortion.  But I shall express to you that this essence also offers valuable information, so to speak, to those individuals which draw themselves to that information, and all is being presented within the intention of offering helpfulness within this shift in consciousness.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  He speaks a lot more about earth changes.

ELIAS:  Correct.

VIVIEN:  Yeah.  Thank you.  Okay, on to some other things... oh, we are out of time!

ELIAS:  You may continue, temporarily.

VIVIEN:  Sometimes, over the last few years, I have an occasional toothache.  There’s nothing ever wrong with it from the dentist’s point of view, but I think it may be a warning or an alarm or a noticing of myself or something, but I’ve never been able to figure out what I’m trying to draw my attention to.

ELIAS:  Within the period of time of your experiencing of this particular type of painfulness, be noticing that you are creating this action to be gaining your attention within that present now.

In this, let me express to you that it is not signifying the same action each time....

VIVIEN:  Ah.  So it’s just a general sort of symptom I have, to be getting my own attention for something?

ELIAS:  It is your choice of manifestation to be gaining your attention within certain time periods, that you may be choosing to be noticing what you are creating and how you are being influenced by your beliefs within that particular time framework.  Are you understanding?

VIVIEN:  Okay, thank you.  The other physical thing is, I have a very small raised area, like a bump or a lump, on my lower back.  It’s not getting bigger, it’s not getting smaller, it doesn’t hurt, but it’s obviously there for something, and I don’t know what it is!  Can you help me with that?

ELIAS:  You merely are presenting yourself with this imagery to be allowing yourself to draw your attention to this wave in consciousness and to be alert, so to speak, to all of the action which is and may be occurring in conjunction to this present wave in consciousness.

Now; as we have been addressing to this particular wave in what you term to be recent past, I express to you that a large area of our discussion is and shall be encompassing perception, for this is a very large element of this particular belief of sexuality.  There are many, many areas that are affected in conjunction with this particular belief.  Appearance is also one of these areas.

Now; individuals within this time framework of this wave in consciousness shall be creating many different types of expressions to be drawing their attention to this particular belief system.  In this, you have offered yourself a small manifestation, an expression that may not be painful and it also may not be hurtful or disturbing to you, but it gains your attention, for it is presenting a marking upon physical form.  It is a malformation, in your estimation, and therefore it gains your attention quite efficiently, for one of the elements of this particular belief system is appearance.  This is a very strong aspect.

Although many, many, many of you express to yourselves and to each other that it matters not and that you concern yourselves not with appearance, I express to you that you concern yourselves very much with appearance!

VIVIEN:  We do, don’t we?

ELIAS:  And you place great value in this area.

VIVIEN:  Wow.  I think that’s a very good explanation of the whole thing.  Okay, onto the next.

I had an out-of-body some time ago where I found myself flying wonderfully through skies and places, and I finally found myself descending down to what I think was a place in the city.  It seemed to be a university or a place of learning, a simple place consisting of walls next to a hill, and as I sort of floated down out of the sky, nobody seemed to see me except one young girl, maybe eighteen or nineteen, very beautiful, shoulder-length curly dark hair.  She had a band around her forehead, and I noticed there were some hieroglyphics chiseled into an entrance, a big gateway or an entrance into this university campus.  Was that the city, or was I in some other place or time?  She seemed to greet me.  She saw me quite clearly. (Pause)

ELIAS:  No, you were not projecting into what we have designated to be the city, but you have projected into an area within Egyptian focus.

VIVIEN:  Ah!  The young girl, who was that?  She seemed to know me.

ELIAS:  That particular individual you may view as a friend that you hold within that focus.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  It was a beautiful place.  What time frame was that?

ELIAS:  This would be within your time framework of Alexander.

VIVIEN:  Oh, okay.  Thank you.  Do we have time for one more?

ELIAS:  You may continue, and I shall...

VIVIEN:  Let me know when it’s time to stop.  Okay, another.

I had a dream.  I was, I think, in my mother’s house, in the garden, but the house wasn’t in England.  It was, I believe, in Scotland, and above me there was a flock of pigeons, and all of the pigeons were beautiful colors, all different colors — rainbow colors, multiple colors — and I was waving my arms, and they were taking off and landing again, and then all of them took off except for one, which came down to the back of the chair or something.  It was pale pink, and it seemed to be less fearful than the others, and I grabbed it, didn’t hurt it, and then let it go again.  It stayed and allowed me to pet it, and I was stroking this little thing like you would stroke a kitten or a puppy.  It was a beautiful little thing, and I really don’t understand what the meaning of that dream was, except it was very pleasant.  It was very nice.

ELIAS:  Let me express to you that within this dream imagery, you are creating a communication to yourself in relation to this shift in consciousness and its orchestration as facilitated by the Borledim family and the participation of Rose.  In this, the imagery that you have allowed is that of this small bird, which appears to you to be offering you pleasure and acceptance, and you are also offering acceptance of this small bird.

The imagery presented in the other birds is significant to the movement in consciousness, which you may term to be an outward movement, extending from the point, which you have imaged as yourself, outward.  The point is not necessarily yourself, although in another manner of speaking, it is, for each of you would be the point, so to speak, of origin of this shift in consciousness.  But more broadly speaking, the point of origin would be this particular universe or dimension, and within the centralization of this particular planet, the action of this shift in consciousness extends outward, and this be the imagery that you have presented in the many birds taking to flight, but the one remains in reassurance to you.

VIVIEN:  Okay.  So it was a pretty good dream then!  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are welcome.  You may continue with one more question.

VIVIEN:  Alright.  Then I’ll ask about a beautiful young boy that I had an image of.  He was smiling and quite young, very young, I would say, and I was wondering if he was connected with Rose. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes, you are correct.

VIVIEN:  Is he one of the manifestations?

ELIAS:  One of these nine, yes.

VIVIEN:  Which one was he?  Or shall I guess, or try to get it myself?

ELIAS:  You may be allowing yourself to be attempting to connect to this information, and I shall be encouraging of this, for you have accomplished well in your investigations within other focuses and this shall pose no greater obstacle for you, for these individuals are physically manifest presently.

VIVIEN:  He looked about three years old, I would say.

ELIAS:  Yes, although there are some, so to speak, which hold slightly older age.  They are all within one-and-one-half years of each other.

VIVIEN:  Yes.  My first impression of him was that he was possibly the Scottish manifestation.

ELIAS:  You are correct.

VIVIEN:  Ah!  I got it!  Great!  I’m trusting these impressions more and more! (Elias chuckles)

Is there a possibility for one more question, a very brief one?

ELIAS:  Yes.

VIVIEN:  This is for Jim.  He asked me to ask you about a dream he had.  He had three dreams in a row.  The first one, he doesn’t know what the dream was about, except he woke up very elated, and then it was followed by two dreams.  In the first one, he was walking along a beach with a gaping hole in his foot.  He could see the bones, but it wasn’t bleeding and he had no pain, and he was continuing along quite comfortably with it.  In the second dream, he had a huge boil on the back of his neck.  He found himself scaling a vine up to a doctor’s office, which he couldn’t get to.  It was becoming too difficult, so he decided then that he would come down and fix it himself, the way he’d cured himself of the other problems he’d had.  He just asked if you would comment briefly on that.

ELIAS:  I shall express that this imagery — once again — is movement in conjunction with this wave in consciousness which is addressing to this belief system of sexuality, this addressing to the physical aspects of the belief system.

There are many physical aspects of the belief of sexuality.  There are many more aspects that are not necessarily physical.

But in this, he is presenting himself with imagery concerning areas that seem in one dream image to be impossible, but is accepted as natural.  This would be the viewing of the foot in this type of manner.  It is not disturbing.  There is merely a recognition that there is held a difference which deviates from what you have previously identified as the norm, but there is no draw to be fixing this situation.  It is acceptable as it is.

This addresses to the situation of orientation.  It is unnecessary to be “fixing” any of these orientations.  Although they may appear slightly unfamiliar to you initially, as you have forgotten what you have created within orientations, they are flowing quite naturally themselves without interference.  Your conflict enters merely when you attempt to be altering the natural flow of what you have created.

As to the situation of the dream imagery [of] attempting to be connecting with a physician, but viewing the difficulty in this area and the ease of altering the creation himself, this also is imagery in conjunction with this belief, recognizing that you may be altering of your perception and allowing much more of an ease and natural flow within your focus if you are not fatiguing yourselves and attempting to be forcing situations through your beliefs that are not a natural flow to you.

VIVIEN:  Like climbing those vines, which was so difficult.

ELIAS:  Correct, and this also is directly related to the subject matter of orientation.

VIVIEN:  Very good!  What a good dream! (Elias chuckles)  Thank you.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.

VIVIEN:  I really appreciate it.  Well, if there’s no more time ... I’ve got lots more questions, but perhaps I should save them for another session.

ELIAS:  Very well.  I offer to you, Miriam, great encouragement.

VIVIEN:  Thank you very much.

ELIAS:  And I express to you to be remembering that your creations within this time framework are lent much energy.  Therefore, you may be accomplishing more easily — if you are so choosing — in your investigations, for you may draw upon the availability of all of the energy which is lent.

To you this day, I am quite acknowledging, and offer you much lovingness.

VIVIEN:  Love to you too, Elias, and thank you very much indeed.  I really appreciate all the help.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.

VIVIEN:  I’ll speak with you again soon.  I’ve got enough questions for many sessions with you! (Elias chuckles)  Well, again, thank you, and I’ll speak to you soon.

ELIAS:  Very well.  I bid you a very affectionate au revoir.

VIVIEN:  Au revoir.

Elias departs at 2:26 PM.

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