Session 374

Dream Walkers/Seers/Fragmentation


“Dream Walkers/Seers/Fragmentation”
“Viewing Reality Singularly”
“Beliefs: Duplicity”

Friday, March 19, 1999-2  © 2000 (Private/Phone)
Participants:  Mary (Michael) and Mike (Mikah).
Elias arrives at 1:54 PM. (Arrival time is 18 seconds)

ELIAS:  Greetings, Mikah!

MIKE:  Greetings, Elias!

ELIAS:  (Chuckling)  How goes your investigation?

MIKE:  I don’t know!  I was going to be asking you the same thing! (Laughing, and Elias chuckles)  Okay, well, for starters, why am I creating difficulty with connecting with my other focuses?

ELIAS:  This is merely a situation once again of trusting yourself, allowing yourself to be connecting, and trusting that what you are connecting to is reality and not imagination.  You are blocking your own experience in questioning the reality of it.

MIKE:  That makes sense.  I was gonna save this one for last, but I was connecting last week with the color red a lot.  It was all over, but it seems not to be around until I ... your presence was present when I was at Jo and Paul’s, and the picture I had of you was wearing a red suit.  So now I’m asking again, what is this thing with red?

ELIAS:  Quite flamboyant, is it not? (Grinning)

MIKE:  Yes.

ELIAS:  I shall also express to you that this is your identification of connecting with another essence — of Shynla — for this essence of Shynla is a dispersed essence.  Therefore, it is allowing itself to be connecting with many different individuals within physical focus, accessing elements of their experiences to be adding to its own experience, and allowing it to more efficiently evaluate and assimilate different experiences and information within its focuses presently.

MIKE:  That’s interesting.  So I was picking that up because she was connecting with me?

ELIAS:  Correct.

MIKE:  Okay, alright.  Okay, I had a dream the other night about you, and it was one of the weirdest dreams I have ever had.  As you’re well aware, I’ve had a fascination with the differences in different focuses of the same essence, looking at the different features, which is why I was really anxious to connect with mine.  But I was looking, before I went to sleep, picturing and trying to think of anyone else that I could get a famous focus from or to think of, so I can look at the differences and whatsuch, and when I went to sleep, I had a dream that I connected with another famous focus of you that was an artist, and I can’t remember the name, but whoever the picture of this artist person was, was kind of strange.  I was wondering what the imagery of that was.

ELIAS:  The imagery that you present to yourself is that of the diversity in expression and experiences within essence as it manifests into physical focuses.

Now; let me express to you that within the focuses that I have held within this physical dimension, I have not manifest as what you would term to be an artist of fame in the area of painting, although I may express to you that I have manifest as an artist of different types of expressions, musically and within writing.

In this, you are allowing yourself to view the diversity of expressions of essence, and also allowing yourself the information that regardless of the singularity of expressions which may be chosen by any particular focus, all of the qualities of all creative expressions are available to you in each focus.  For the most part, each focus shall direct their attention in specific areas of creative expression, but this is not to say that they do not hold the ability to be expressing in many more areas of creativity.

MIKE:  Okay.  That’s interesting, and makes sense.  So that would explain why the person I saw was so different looking.

ELIAS:  Quite.

MIKE:  Okay.  I’ve had some interesting imagery with police officers lately, and I was wondering, why am I drawing these people to me?

ELIAS:  This once again, as I have also expressed within my most recent engagement in these sessions, is another expression of interaction with individuals that you view to be authority.

As I have expressed previously to another individual, within this present now and for a time period pastly but continuing in intensity within this particular year, this type of expression shall become more common and more often, not merely with yourself but with many, many, many individuals.

As you engage this present year within the action of this shift, individuals individually and en masse are addressing to their interaction with what they term to be authority and are offering themselves imagery, that they may look to their experiences and the reality of their physical focus, recognizing that there are in actuality no individuals that may be deemed in authority of you.

You are all the same, so to speak.  No individuals hold what you may term as the privilege of higher platform than yourself.  This is an aspect of belief systems that you have created in creating a type of structure within this dimension within your societies, but this structure is being challenged.

Therefore, you may find yourself in different experiences and encounters with individuals that you identify as authority figures, that you may offer yourself the opportunity to view that they are no more in authority of you than you are in authority of any other individual.  Are you understanding?  (No audible response)

In this, you also present yourself with the opportunity to view how you create, within your own interaction and your alignment with your own beliefs, the power of authority, for you are in agreement of this situation and offer the power of energy to these individuals to be authority figures, for if you are not offering compliance and lending of energy in this area, they shall not be in the position that they occupy presently.

MIKE:  So then these encounters are going to be increasing, you said?

ELIAS:  These encounters en masse shall be increasing, and in some situations, individually shall be increasing also.  This is not to say that you shall be increasing this action with this one particular type of authority figure.  I am speaking of any individual that you place in the position of authority.  This may be your law officers, it may be governmental officials, it may be individuals within establishments, it may be parents, it may be any number of expressions that you deem to be in authority of you.

MIKE:  Okay.  Okay, you gave my mom a clarification on “quick fix.”  Now, I’m not sure, because I’m not sure if she wrote it all down, but did you tell her how that applies to what we were talking about?  ‘Cause I still don’t understand it, with the explanation she told me.

ELIAS:  Express your confusion.

MIKE:  Well, you told me, I believe, that the underlying expectation that we were going to be dealing with, that would be creating of our situation possibly of getting stuck, so to speak, would be having to do with quick fixes, and I don’t understand that.

ELIAS:  Correct, and I have offered the explanation to Candace in this area, that you may view certain elements objectively.

You may be choosing certain actions objectively that may be temporarily affecting of whatever situation you are attempting to be affecting, but the underlying issue and expectation that you hold shall continue.  I have offered to Candace an example in physical terms of this explanation, that it may be more efficient for your understanding.

MIKE:  Okay.  I’ve had for the past year — and it’s off and on, where it’s like sometimes I just have the biggest desire and sometimes I just don’t care — but a draw to New York.  I have no idea ... I was wondering, possibly is there a counterpart or something there, or something?

ELIAS:  There is much movement which is occurring in this physical location of which you speak.  I may also express to you that you hold a draw to be exploring and visiting this particular physical location in recognition that there is what you may term to be highly charged energy in this particular area.

Now; the expression of this energy is different from many other physical locations, for individuals draw themselves to this particular location for one of the expressed reasons that there is an accepted creation of expressed energy in a highly charged manner.  This lends energy to the individuals that participate in the movement and the motions in this particular location.

What individuals have created in this particular area is a type of location in which individuals move together en masse, lending energy to the intensity of experiences.  They also lend energy to the expression of exploration of acceptance of many different types of behaviors and influences that may not necessarily be as easily accepted in other physical locations in which the societies may be choosing more stringent qualities in their expressions.

Therefore, what you are drawing yourself to is the exploration of a different type of expression, which may also be lending energy more easily to you in your movement into noticing more of your reality.

This particular location has been created in energy en masse to be quite sense-oriented.  There is much offered in the area of thought and the exploration of concepts, but there is much energy lent to the stimulation of physical senses, which lends energy to your widening in your perception, for it lends energy to the action of your noticing.  Are you understanding?

MIKE:  Yes. (Pause)

Okay, I have a question about my intent.  I want to ask you, am I in line with the Sumari intent?  ‘Cause I know I give a lot of credence to the Sumafi, but not the Sumari.  And I’m looking at the Sumari, and in my perception, the people who align with it show creativity at like young ages, like artists, musicians, actors, et cetera.  And I haven’t done any of that kind of stuff, so I kind of get myself into a circle of invalidation that I’m not doing that, so I must not be aligning, and I was wondering, am I actually aligning with my intent, or am I still giving a lot of credence to the Sumafi part?

ELIAS:  Let me express to you that your intent encompasses both, for you hold an underlying intent in one, and you hold what you may term to be an overlying intent in the other.

Now; in this, there are many individuals that are expressive in what you may term to be artistic areas that are aligning with the Sumari or belonging to the Sumari family, but this is not the only expressions that the individuals of Sumari engage within.

They are creative individuals, but creativity is not limited to what you may term to be artistic qualities.  There are many different expressions of creativity.  These individuals also, as you may be remembering, are what we fondly term to be pot-stirrers.  They are the individuals that create motion and spur other individuals into new areas of expression and of thought process and emotion.

Let me also express to you that another quite distinct quality held by the Sumari is their temporariness.  This may be expressed in many different manners, but within this temporariness, they are quite given to the lack of completion of many projects.  They are enthusiastic in beginning projects or promoting projects, but they are not holding tremendous interest in the completion of projects.

Therefore, it is quite common for Sumaris to be engaging many different types of activities, and not necessarily completing any or all of the actions that they choose to engage.  They hold great passion, and in this are very expressive of themselves, and may be quite influencing and inspiring to other individuals.

In this, you are accomplishing within your intent, and you may look to certain elements of your particular focus in which you may identify that you may initially begin in one direction, and subsequently you may also lose your motivation, so to speak, rather quickly ...

MIKE:  Uh-huh!

ELIAS:  ... within that expression.  There is what you may term to be a shortness of attention in specific areas.

Be remembering that this is not bad or wrong.  It merely is the expression within the intent of individuals aligning with and belonging to the Sumari family, that they exhibit behavior of bouncing from one area to another area, and exhibit behavior of a lack of motivation within areas that may be requiring of much attention and lengthy action for completion.

MIKE:  Okay, so in that, I am aligning then?

ELIAS:  Yes.

MIKE:  Okay.  Okay, real quick here, Candace has a question.  She says she heard the names Seth and Elias in one day, and yesterday she heard the name Rupert or Rubert or something like that, and she was wondering if there was a connection. (Pause)

ELIAS:  Candace is merely allowing information to bleed through in the area of identifying certain similarities in the area of this energy exchange.  She has allowed herself to be connecting with certain aspects of the experiences of this energy exchange presently, and in that, it may also be helpful to her to be investigating some elements of the exchange which has occurred previously between the essences of Seth and Rubert.

There are some similarities, although there are also many distinct differences, for the intents are different.  But with her interaction and intent of Sumari, she may be holding an understanding of certain elements of her own experience in conjunction with the exchange that has occurred with those essences, as they also participate with the Sumari.

MIKE:  Okay.  Let’s see ... oh yeah.  Am I accomplishing — because I know I slip into a thing with the duality thing — but accomplishing along the lines of freeing my energy to be creating that which I seek?

ELIAS:  You are beginning movement in this area, but I shall also express to you that you do continue your own movement in the area of viewing your reality quite singularly.

We have engaged this discussion previously, and I express to you once again that you continue to move in this area of singularity.  This is also affecting of your noticing — NOTICE — (Mike laughs) for your noticing also may be lacking at times for the reason that you ARE viewing singularly.

MIKE:  Well, can you give me an example of how I view singularly?  I mean, from my perception, it’s like I try to incorporate everything.  I try, at least.  I don’t know how I’m viewing singularly.

ELIAS:  Each time you move in the direction of concentrating intensely in one particular direction, this is an example of viewing singularly.  Look to your interaction in your investigation of your writer! (Mike laughs)

You are concentrating very intensely in one area, and in that one area, you are investigating only the elements that you may present yourself with concerning an actual writer, and you are NOT noticing all of the other imagery that you present yourself with in connection to what you seek.

Your imagery is presented to you in every area within your focus, and each individual is quite creative in their presentment of their imagery.  In this, you may find imagery in a sign.  You may find imagery in nature.  You may find imagery in words.  You may find imagery in action, in books, in experiences, in objects.

There are many different areas that you present yourself with imagery that all moves in the direction of what you seek within a particular time framework, but if you are directing your attention in merely one direction and you are merely allowing yourself to be connecting with the information that you may present yourself with through books, you are not noticing all of the other imagery that may be presenting itself to you simultaneously.

MIKE:  So I am offering myself imagery pertaining to this then.

ELIAS:  Yes!

MIKE:  Can you give me an example?  I mean, it took me what, five months to find this writer guy, and then it took me like a day to figure out that I had a tee shirt of his last work.

ELIAS:  This is a very good example for you to be re-examining and looking to all of the actions that you engaged within your exploration, and now look to all of the imagery that has been presented about you that you were not noticing.

In this, the key word is “noticing.”  I have been expressing this particular word from the onset of these sessions to all individuals.

This is a very important action, for if you are not noticing, you shall not be presenting yourself objectively with the information, and you shall not be addressing to situations.  Therefore, it is of great importance that you are noticing.

You may also be noticing how you direct your attention singularly when you are engaging repeated actions over and over, as you are continuing to look in the same direction.

Let us express a small analogy in this area.  If you are following a rabbit, and you are concentrating and watching upon this rabbit, and you view this rabbit to be disappearing into a hole, and you focus your attention singularly upon the continuation of viewing merely the hole that the rabbit has disappeared into, you may not notice the rabbit reappearing behind you, as it has emerged from another hole and presents itself to you once again.

In this, I am expressing to you to be noticing of ALL that is around you, all that is occurring and is presented about you, and in this, you may be opening to your periphery, and in that opening, you shall be offering yourself information more efficiently to be widening your awareness and to be offering yourself your accomplishment.

MIKE:  Okay.  I’ve had a lot of people, my mother and my sister excluded, who have all harped on me because I graduated early, about why aren’t I getting a job, why aren’t I doing something, and why am I taking next year off and this and that, and I get aggravated.  I’m assuming the overlying aggravation part is, I don’t like being told what to do.  But I’m asking you, is there something underlying to my aggravation or to them asking that I should be taking notice to?

ELIAS:  Notice your response.  In this, you are offering yourself an explanation and justifying your response by expressing to yourself that you are not appreciative of other individuals telling you what to do, in your terms.

I express to you that you hold underlying belief systems also that express your own duplicity that your behavior and your choices are unacceptable.  You SHOULD be being productive.  You SHOULD be moving in certain directions.  Therefore, you are placing judgments upon your own choices.

This be the reason that you are responding to the expressions of other individuals.  Other individuals are expressing to you as influenced by their belief systems, as their expression of their own perception.  Their perception is what is creating of their reality, but it is not your reality.  YOUR perception is your reality.  Your choices are your reality.

In this, as you begin to be accepting of self and recognizing that your choices are your choices, and they are not good or bad or right or wrong — they merely are your choices, and this is acceptable regardless of another individual’s perception — as you move in this direction of acceptance of self and acknowledgment of this, you shall not be experiencing this response in opposition to other individuals, for it shall fall away, so to speak.  It shall matter not the expression of other individuals, for you shall hold the trust and acceptance of self to be creating your choices without question.

MIKE:  Okay.  In our first meeting objectively, when I asked you about jobs, and you said I’d be having an occupation which I won’t view as being a job, is that still the lines of probabilities that I’m heading down?

ELIAS:  Correct.  Now; let me clarify.  In this, the probabilities that you are creating in societal terms may be termed as your word of a job, but you shall view this differently, for you shall not view your action as work.  Are you understanding?

MIKE:  Yes.  Lately — now I don’t know if this is one of those things I’m noticing from what we were talking about before — but lately I’ve been noticing a lot of people who are so-called celebrities, who are very efficient at their creations, like musicians, singers, actors, artists and whatsuch, who make an overwhelming amount of money, and I have no idea why I’ve taken notice to it, because I draw myself into this thing, like I’m insufficient or something like that, and I was wondering, is this to draw myself to these belief systems, or is there something going on that is drumming up to be a mass statement or something?  I don’t know.  Why am I taking notice to it?

ELIAS:  You are noticing of this element for your own information in this area, to be recognizing that these individuals are creating their reality in the direction of fun.  They are creating their reality in their expression of what they choose to be creating with no conflict, and expressive in the area of pleasure.

(Intently)  They enjoy what they are creating.  It offers them pleasure and fun, and in this, they are also acquiring monetary gain or financial gain as they choose to be expressing themselves creatively in fun.  This offers you the example that you may be creating of the same action.

This is not to say that you may be choosing to be entering the expression of an artist or a musician or an actor in your creation of your reality, but that you may be creating what you desire and what you experience as fun within your focus, and you may also be creating efficiently in the area of satisfying those elements which you view to be physical needs.

MIKE:  Okay, so the basic imagery that I offer myself is to be having fun in what I’m doing?

ELIAS:  Correct.

MIKE:  Okay.  I don’t know how to word this one.  I’m hoping you’ll understand where I’m coming from with it, because I couldn’t come up with words for it.

It is the criticisms, the invalidations of myself and the connection with this forum, and I was wondering, why am I experiencing these things, and why am I even here kind of thing?  That’s like a rough translation of what I’m feeling, as there are no words to express it.

ELIAS:  You are grappling, so to speak, with your own alignment in certain areas of duplicity.  This is what you may term to be your objective indication to yourself that you are beginning to address to certain issues that you hold yourself in the area of duplicity.

And in addressing to this, in noticing your own discounting of self — for it is not the expression of other individuals in discounting of you, but it is your own discounting of self that you are drawing to your attention — and in this expression, you are offering yourself the opportunity to be moving through this issue, addressing to these particular birds within this particular bird cage and allowing them to fly free, that they may not be affecting of you any longer.

All individuals shall be, within different time frameworks, addressing to this belief system of duplicity, and as you choose to be moving yourself into this particular expression, I may also express to you that this particular belief system is quite difficult and holds many hidden elements, so to speak.  Many of the birds in this cage are quite camouflaged and are quite efficient at hiding themselves from you, for they disguise themselves or camouflage themselves in the expressions of your own justifications to yourself, which you may view as your acceptance of self, but in actuality, it is merely another bird in the cage of duplicity, for each time you are justifying, you are feeding that particular bird.

MIKE:  Okay.  This one has to do with some of your discussions on the Dream Walkers.  Just for my clarification before I ask this question, when you’re talking about the Seers and the Watchers and all of them, when you say Seer, are you ... I shouldn’t say segregate, but are you putting a distinction on certain individuals called Seer?

ELIAS:  In a manner of speaking, yes.

MIKE:  Okay, why?

ELIAS:  I am distinguishing between different choices and functions.  I am not distinguishing between essences, but I am distinguishing between choices of essences and functions that have been chosen as their expressions.

Some essences have chosen to be Dream Walkers, which are not entirely physically manifest within this dimension.  These, within the designations of different families, are the essences that may be deemed as Seers or Watchers or Hearers and so forth.

Other essences have chosen to be physically manifest within this dimension, and have chosen to be experiencing the entirety of physical manifestation.

Therefore, there is a distinction in the choices and the functions of the manifestations of these different essences.  The qualities of essence are comparable.  The choices are different.

In this, there are aspects of these Dream Walkers that are qualities of other essences.  As one essence is fragmented of another essence, it contains all of the qualities of the essence that it has been fragmented of.  Therefore, if an essence is fragmented of a Dream Walker essence, and that fragmented essence is choosing to become physically manifest within this dimension, it shall also hold the aspect of that Dream Walker.

Therefore, you may be physically manifest within this dimension, and I may also designate you as a Seer or not as a Seer.  This is dependent upon your holding or not holding of the aspect of Dream Walker as associated with a particular essence family.  Are you understanding?

MIKE:  Yeah, a little bit.  I don’t understand how one essence could hold it, and the other one can’t....

ELIAS:  It is merely a choice.

MIKE:  (Mike’s words are inaudible here because he and Elias were talking at the same time.)

ELIAS:  It is merely a choice.  It is a choice of different actions.

Let me offer you an analogy within physical terms.  You may choose to be participating within a particular family.  Now, within that particular family, let us designate your father as a watchmaker.  As the son of the father, you may choose to be a watchmaker also, and your son may choose to be a watchmaker.  This may be your lineage in your family history.  These are choices.  Another family may not choose to be watchmakers.  Therefore, they are not.

It is not a distinction of one essence being better than another essence or one essence holding a higher level than another essence.  It is merely a difference in choices, that one essence chooses not to be entirely physically manifest within this particular dimension and another essence chooses to be entirely physically manifest.  Their choice is for a difference in experiences.

MIKE:  Well, taking that same analogy you just used, does the father have to be a watchmaker in order for the son to be a watchmaker?


MIKE:  So, an essence can fragment off of another essence that’s not even a Seer, and the fragmented essence could be a Seer? (Pause)

ELIAS:  No.  It shall not be Seer if it has not been fragmented with any participation of any other essence that holds this quality.

Be remembering that I have likened your action of fragmenting to an action of cloning, with the addition of your choice of qualities that you choose to be incorporating.

In this, you incorporate the same qualities as the fragmenting essence.  You may hold your own qualities also that you choose to create and that you choose to be incorporating anew, so to speak, but you also hold all of the qualities of the fragmenting essence.

MIKE:  Okay.  I’ll leave it at that.  It’s just....

ELIAS:  Let us examine a different analogy.  You shall bake a cake.  You shall place all of the ingredients into this cake.  You shall create your finished product, so to speak, of this cake.

Now; as you remove one slice of this cake, shall it have any less ingredients within it than the entirety of the cake?

MIKE:  No.

ELIAS:  No.  But shall it appear differently from the entirety of the cake?

MIKE:  Yeah.

ELIAS:  In like manner, all of the aspects and the qualities of the fragmenting essence are present within a fragmented essence, but it shall not appear the same as the fragmenting essence.

In a manner of speaking, in physical terms, it has been removed from the fragmenting essence and is its own entity, so to speak.  These are figurative terms.  Now are you understanding?

MIKE:  Yeah, I am.  Okay, this is one I’ve been noticing of and have been waiting for someone to ask because I really didn’t want to ask it, but with other dimensions, physical dimensions and whatsuch, do they each have their own Dream Walkers and whatsuch, or is this like the only dimension with Dream Walkers?

ELIAS:  Yes, other physical dimensions hold their own essence families and their own Dream Walkers, so to speak.

Not ALL dimensions choose this particular organization, but there are other physical dimensions that do hold different essence families and their own expression of what you may term to be Dream Walkers.

MIKE:  Okay.  Let’s see ... focuses of mine.  You told me that I had four focuses in the military out of the 53, and I got all those.  The other two that are not in similar tone, would any of those be in any of the American armies here from the past, so to speak, like in World War I or II or Vietnam or something?

ELIAS:  Within what you term to be your Civil War.

MIKE:  Civil War.  Both of them, or just one of them?

ELIAS:  One.

MIKE:  One.  Would it be a North or South fighter?

ELIAS:  South.

MIKE:  Hmm.  Okay, and the other one is somewhere else then?

ELIAS:  Correct.

MIKE:  Okay.  Well, I’ll have to be investigating of him.

ELIAS:  Very good! (Mike laughs)

MIKE:  And with my designated final focus as it is, is the agreement coming closer to being agreed upon?

ELIAS:  Yes, and may be ... within the line of probabilities being accomplished, it may be moving into fruition in what you term to be soon.

MIKE:  Okay.  Is this gonna change anything about myself, any actions or any qualities or anything besides just having the designation?

ELIAS:  You may be experiencing futurely, within different time points, so to speak, the feeling sensation of temporary increased lack of motivation or a pull in the direction of the feeling of what you may term to be tiredness, not necessarily physically but mentally and emotionally, for you lean in this direction in your expression of this focus.

Therefore, the creation of these types of expressions, these types of experiences of frustration — and also of wishing to be disengaging and moving into other areas of consciousness — may be increased, but it shall also be temporary.

MIKE:  Well, I feel that already!

ELIAS:  I am aware.

MIKE:  Okay, so you’re just saying it’s going to be increasing?

ELIAS:  Partially, but it shall be a temporary situation.

MIKE:  Okay.  Is this the only action that’s going to be different or changed, so to speak?

ELIAS:  In objective terms, yes.

MIKE:  Is this switching, I guess, so to speak, of the designation, is it going to be changing any of my focuses or altering of them in any way?

ELIAS:  This would be their choice.

At the moment of your disengagement, they may be choosing to be disengaging also or to be continuing within their own fragmentation, but this is a choice of probabilities which is created within the moment.

MIKE:  I have an impression that one of them is already moving in the area of fragmentation.

ELIAS:  You are correct.

MIKE:  Which one is it? (Pause)

ELIAS:  This would be another focus which is held within this time framework.

MIKE:  Would it be the New Zealand one? (Pause)


MIKE:  No.  The Russian or Siberian one?

ELIAS:  Correct.

MIKE:  Is Joseph, the New Zealand one, experiencing some kind of conflict?  Because I sense a lot of conflict, or some sort of internal conflict with him.

ELIAS:  Yes.

MIKE:  What is he conflicted about? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Situations within the focus which present frustration in the expression of this individual’s own creativity, and within this present now, allowing himself to be struggling in the area of duplicity also, and moving in the direction of placing judgment upon other individuals and blame, and not looking to self and examining the beliefs and expressions of self.

MIKE:  Okay, that makes sense.  I mean, he’s been on my mind, I guess, so to speak, for a while, and I was sensing maybe he was the one, that the conflict was him wanting to fragment, but it was just the conflict of duplicity then, huh?

ELIAS:  Correct, and you may be lending energy to this individual as you address to your own expressions and alignment with duplicity.

MIKE:  Okay.  You said in session 154, I believe, that ... it was a very brief thing that you said to Drew about an individual carrying on the information after Elias, which may seem conflicting although it’s not conflicting.  But anyways, will this individual be in the family of Tumold? (Pause)

Vic’s note:  For clarification, here is the quote (#154, ):

“You have been offered information in line with your creation of progression, for this is how you have created your reality, progressively, and within what you view to be your future time period shall be experienced another which shall seemingly be contradictory to Elias, but shall not be contradicting.  It shall be additional; to your way of thinking, a furthering; a continuation of information, as was the one before, and as was the one before.”


MIKE:  What essence family? (Pause)

ELIAS:  This would also be within the Sumafi family.

MIKE:  Really.  Is it gonna be like a concurrent thing?  Like as you finish up, it’ll start up, or is there gonna be a time period after you’ve finished? (Pause)

ELIAS:  There may be, within present probabilities — although this may be altered — a time period between the two expressions.

MIKE:  Okay, is this individual gonna be coming a little bit later on in the century? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Within present probabilities, yes.

MIKE:  Okay, so within my probabilities, I won’t be around to see him then, right?

ELIAS:  Correct.

MIKE:  Okay.  Let me see.  Oh, okay.  I think this is the last one.  I’ve got a bird.  His name is Oscar, and I was wondering, what is the imagery that I am offering myself with him?  And also in that, I have an impression — I mean, I don’t mean for you to sex my bird — but I have an impression that he is a female, and the person who I bought it from told me it was a male.  I was wondering what the thing about that is. (Pause)

ELIAS:  You are correct in your impression that this creature holds the gender of female.

MIKE:  And then, what is the imagery of even getting him?  I mean, is there any ... well, there has to be significance.

ELIAS:  And what have you in the imagery of naming with this bird?

MIKE:  Oscar! (Laughing)

ELIAS:  And you may be looking to the expression of this bird, for you have presented yourself with an objective avenue to be connecting with myself.

MIKE:  Oh, interesting!  Okay, well along those lines, now that that’s brought up, you told my mom that I have a tendency to focus singularly, which we’ve discussed.  How am I focusing singularly when I’m looking to connect with you?

ELIAS:  You are not allowing yourself to be noticing all of the different types of expressions that may be presented to you.

You have moved in the direction of an expectation of certain types of expressions that may be associated with my energy and the presentment of expressions by myself.  Look to the present imagery that you present yourself with your bird, and this is not what you view within your expectation as an expression that may present itself with my energy.

MIKE:  Okay....

ELIAS:  I may not be presenting myself to you in the form of your neighboring ghost! (Mike laughs)  I may choose a different type of energy expression.

MIKE:  Eventually I will experience the ghost part, right?

ELIAS:  Ah, but look to this!  This is your expectation and this is your want, that you view to be more valid and more cosmic than other expressions, but this is merely one expression and is quite mundane!  In actuality, it is much more creative to be expressing myself in many different manners, not merely this one that is associated with elements of your reality that you may not see. (Grinning)

MIKE:  Okay.  Has your presence been present in the same fashion it was that one night, in that chair?

ELIAS:  At times, but not continuously.

MIKE:  Okay, so the times it’s been brought to mind, I wasn’t going crazy, right?

ELIAS:  Correct.  You are not experiencing lunacy! (Mike laughs)

MIKE:  And when I experience that, what am I supposed to do?  I mean, it’s like I automatically jump to the thing that I’m going nuts ‘cause I’m seeing pictures of Oscar Wilde in my head, sitting next to me or looking at me.

ELIAS:  And why must you “do”?  You have asked for an expression, and I have offered!

MIKE:  I mean, it’s like, I can’t hear anything!  I don’t ... arrgh!

ELIAS:  Ah, frustration!  Why shall you not be merely accepting of the expression and allowing yourself to be relaxing with that expression?  And as you become more accepting of your own noticing and of these types of expressions, you shall also be accomplishing the very action that you wish to be accomplishing in allowing yourself to notice this interaction more frequently, and you shall become at ease with this, and in that expression, as you continue, perchance we may engage in conversation!

MIKE:  Perhaps! (Laughing)  I was thinking about my writer, and you said in your Oscar Wilde focus that I had a focus in which I was an acquaintance as a schoolmate.  Was this one of not similar tone to me? (Pause)

ELIAS:  Yes.

MIKE:  So the number of tones you gave me is out of the 731 then?

ELIAS:  Yes.

MIKE:  And so the number seven with Patel was the total out of the 731 also?

ELIAS:  Yes.

MIKE:  Did you say yes or no?

ELIAS:  Yes.

MIKE:  Yes, okay.  You told me about that person who I’ve spent all those focuses with.  Is there an agreement that we hold, at a certain age or a certain time, to be meeting?


MIKE:  No?

ELIAS:  No.  This is merely an agreement that you may be choosing a probability to be engaging each other within this focus.

Be remembering also that I have expressed to you that you may alter this probability.  It is not set in stone.  But it is most probable that you shall be meeting.

MIKE:  Okay.  Is this gonna be like later, so to speak?

ELIAS:  This is a relative term.  Yes, it shall be later within time framework, but not necessarily far removed from your present time framework.

MIKE:  Okay.  Alright, I have just one more question for you, and it’s about my astral projection.  I’ve been having a lot of not being able to remember my dreams like for the past month ... or not this past month.  But a couple of weeks ago, I finally started remembering some of them, but for a time period of like a month, a month-and-a-half, almost two months, I wasn’t even remembering anything.

Then I read something in one of the transcripts about the mental blocks, that because of the brain having its own consciousness and whatsuch, it may block the energy temporarily, so I assume that’s what’s going on.  But I was wondering, why am I still creating difficulty with the astral projection?

ELIAS:  You continue in the same expression.  This is a continuation of your lack of trustfulness and your expression of fearfulness and tension in this area.

You also once again hold a singularity of attention with an objective expectation that you shall be accomplishing this action in a certain method, and you shall be experiencing certain elements and qualities — feelings — and viewing in a certain manner in the accomplishment of this action.

Therefore, you are creating difficulty in your accomplishment, for you are narrowing your availability for this expression, that it must be created within certain guidelines and certain types of experience.  I express to you once again, if you allow yourself to be relaxing and not holding an expectation, you may be accomplishing more efficiently.

MIKE:  But eventually, I’ll be doing this, right?

ELIAS:  Correct.

MIKE:  Okay, and speaking of which, with all these things of beliefs and stuff, it seems like ... am I going to be or am I already engaging the action of transition?

ELIAS:  You have not chosen the action of transition presently, but you do hold a probability to be creating of that action futurely.

MIKE:  Okay, then why ... in my perception I’m giving myself like a rough time.  I mean, I see individuals who hold ... who believe like this kind of stuff is like of the devil and whatsuch, and they’re accomplishing, and it’s like, I’m giving credence to it, you know, as even not being bad or whatsuch, and it’s like I’m not even doing it.  It’s like I won’t line up for anything, and so I was wondering, why I am giving myself such a rough time with all this?

ELIAS:  They do not block themselves, for they hold very strong beliefs in these areas.  Individuals that are holding strong beliefs in demons also hold great fear, and they shall be creating of those expressions.

(Intently)  You create your expectation and what you concentrate upon, but this is not to say that you are creating within your expectation of your objective awareness, but what you hold within your beliefs is what you shall be creating.

Therefore, in the elements of your own skepticisms, although you objectively choose to move into areas that you TRY to be accepting — now, notice this word that YOU use.  You TRY to be accepting.  Well, as you are trying, you are not accomplishing, for you are continuing within your underlying expectation and the belief that is influencing of your creation, and this is the area of disbelief in elements that may be expressed beyond your physical world.

This be the reason, Mikah, that you look so intensely in the direction of parlor tricks.  You are looking and searching within your focus for proof, but the proof lies within you, and once you are accepting of your own expression and trusting in that, you shall offer yourself your proof.

For presently, it is acceptable that other individuals hold these types of experiences, for they may be accomplishing of this.  But you, within your issue of duplicity, express to yourself that you are not as accomplished as other individuals.  You do not hold the same abilities as other individuals.

In this, I continue to express to you that as you allow yourself to relax and to be accepting of yourself without judgment and are trusting of yourself, you shall also be accomplishing.

MIKE:  Okay, alright.  Thank you very much, Elias.

ELIAS:  You are very welcome.  I shall be anticipating our next meeting and the investigation of your TRYING, (grinning) and we shall view your letting go of your trying, and perhaps your movement into your accomplishing!

In this, I extend to you great encouragement.  Pay attention to your creature! (Mike laughs)  I express to you this day great affection, and bid you a very fond au revoir.

Elias departs at 3:30 PM.


(1)  Mike”s note:  My head was nowhere near the answer Elias had just given me about transition.  I was still questioning my progress with astral projection.  I want to convey that the context of the question AND the answer was in the area of myself moving in the direction of astral projection.

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