The Energy Exchange vs. Channeling
Topics:
“The Energy Exchange vs. Channeling”
Wednesday, July 1, 1998
© 1998 (Private)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Sally (Bissell
or Bistell).
Elias arrives at 1:26 PM. (Arrival time is 22 seconds)
ELIAS: Good afternoon! (Smiling)
SALLY: Hello, Elias! Thank you.
ELIAS: And we meet again!
SALLY: Yes, we do! Bissell here, (Elias chuckles) as you
informed me the other night at Aileen’s house. I’m very honored and
humbled to be in your presence and so happy to have this opportunity to
talk with you, because the first time I heard you talk I felt a deep affection
and like we’ve known each other before.
ELIAS: As I also!
SALLY: Yes? Have we known each other in a previous focus?
ELIAS: Correct, and you may be allowing yourself the opportunity
to be investigating of this, and at our next meeting you may be presenting
to ME the information of our interaction within another focus! I
am quite encouraging of individuals to be investigating of other focuses,
for this allows them the opportunity to view more of their self and a greater
understanding in the area of recognizing their own essence and the vastness
of themselves.
SALLY: Yes. I have been in the belief system, as you call
it, of Eckankar for like 16 or 17 years now. I have had at least
two past life focuses, as you call it, which have helped me tremendously
in this lifetime, and at this point in my life I have been once again blown,
so to speak, out of my belief systems. I had a very intense and awesome
experience two years ago, 1996, which I will never forget, in which I offered
myself as a coworker with the holy spirit in the Eck and had the Tibetan
Eck master, who is the torch-bearer of Eckankar, come to me, and I channeled
him as I offered myself because he wanted obviously to attend a seminar
that was going on in 1996, and for three weeks, he was in me. I don’t
understand, Elias, exactly all of what I’m saying, so please correct me,
but I wish that you could give me some enlightenment, because as this happened
it was a very awesome experience for me, and unlike this channel that you
are now, I was very much aware of his presence. Every moment was
guided, was directed. I was humbled to be able to do whatever he
asked of me.
We went to the seminar, and basically he showed me in the belief system
of Eckankar that many things that were being taught were not according
to the holy spirit, is the best way I can say it, and he showed me that
the people in this religious belief system have taken it and turned it
into man-made laws, so to speak, and he showed me what was wrong, what
was being taught wrong, what was being withheld to the people who are in
this belief system. And then, after all of that, he left me.
After three weeks he left me, and I have been, since 1996, without direction.
I have been unable to soul-travel to reach him again, don’t know what direction
to go in, have had my feet pulled out from underneath me as far as the
belief system in Eckankar is concerned.
I love the teachings. I love the things that I’ve learned.
I’ve learned so much! I came from a very strict Catholic background,
and I have expanded in my consciousness tremendously being on this path,
but now I am bored, I am depressed, and I just don’t know where to go.
And it seems as though not only am I lacking direction, and of course it
all comes from within, but it’s like everything in my whole life has come
to a head as well! I’m 17 years in my job and it’s about to come
to an end, my oldest most beloved daughter is about to move next week,
move out and leave me, and my mom was diagnosed recently with Alzheimer’s.
It’s like, “Okay, maybe I don’t want to stay on this planet any more!”
That’s where I’m at, (Elias chuckles) and you mentioned that at the very
first meeting that we were at. You said there are so many people
that are in this boat that I am in right now that need direction, so I
come to you and I ask you, can you help me?
ELIAS: Absolutely, and you may help yourself also!
SALLY: Yes, I knew you were going to say that!
ELIAS: Let me address to the situation, and also let me initially
offer to you that you may be choosing to be interactive with Michael also
in many of these areas, for he holds these experiences also and may be
offering helpfulness to you in sharing interaction with you and offering
you the validation that other individuals experience these same aspects
within physical focus.
As to your situation and your directions, once again we meet with another
individual experiencing final focus. You
are the designation of the final focus of essence. Therefore, as
you choose to disengage this manifestation within this dimension, all other
focuses within the manifestation of this dimension shall also disengage
or shall choose to be fragmenting and creating of their own essence, but
as I have expressed to other individuals, as a final focus there are many
different feelings that may be experienced in conjunction with this designation
as the final focus.
There are many elements involved in the manifestation of the final focus,
for there are actions that you are choosing to incorporate, there are directions
that you move into, and there are also quite natural feelings attached.
I shall express to you that it is quite common for individuals within
a final focus to become discontented with this physical manifestation --
tired of, anxious, impatient, a longing for a moving into non-physical
areas, but also an insatiable thirst for information concerning physical
focus and non-physical elements of consciousness.
Many individuals within this present time period, as designated as the
final focus of essence, move in the direction of creating the action of
transition while they are continuing within physical focus.
Now; let me express to you that it is not necessary to be a final focus
to be choosing to be experiencing transition within physical focus, but
within this time period and within the action of this shift, many final
focuses are choosing to be entering the action of transition objectively
and NOT creating of senility.
Now; your family member is creating of senility, which in actuality
is the creation of entering into the action of transition while continuing
in physical focus, but this individual is not a final focus. Therefore,
the choice is to be creating in alignment with the officially accepted
reality in this dimension, and that moves into the area of senility.
In this, the behavior is accepted. It is excused and accepted.
Therefore, the individual may fully move into the action of transition
-- experiencing simultaneous time at different time periods, experiencing
much more subjective awareness and activity, and merely popping in and
out of objective awareness to be “checking in,” so to speak, but creating
a reality that allows them to move into an intensity of the action of transition
that most individuals reserve until after disengagement of the focus.
SALLY: Oh, I see!
ELIAS: Let me express to you that many more individuals within
this time period are experiencing the creation of senility, but they are
also, in conjunction with the action of this shift, moving into the direction
of discontinuing this creation entirely. Your sciences shall be credited
with their “cure.” In actuality, it is the choice en masse of the
individuals to be discontinuing this action, for it is unnecessary within
the action of this shift. In this, there is an allowance that your
sciences shall be allowed the belief system that they have created the
cure for this dis-ease ... which is not a dis-ease! It is a very
purposeful choice.
SALLY: Yes. I think I understand that, yes.
ELIAS: Therefore, you present yourself with many different types
of imagery presently and within your recent past. You are quoting
of a time period of two years. Within these two years, you have moved
yourself into the awareness of belief systems and of the vastness of essence
and of consciousness, and you have allowed yourself the awareness of the
recognition of the creation of reality in the area that this moves away
from merely being a concept, but is becoming a reality with you.
In this, you also offer yourself very valuable imagery to yourself.
I shall “begin at the beginning” of your addressing
to me and express to you that your initial interaction with energy exchange
WAS an energy exchange. There are many individuals that express that
they are experiencing an energy exchange, and they are not. They
may express the terminology of “channeling,” which in actuality they ARE
channeling. They are channeling their own essence energy through
their physical focus.
But I do not express this phenomenon to be the same as what the popular
belief system is within this present now of channeling, for Michael is
not channeling anything. Michael is participating in an energy exchange
with another essence, myself, and offering an allowance for this essence
of Elias to be objectively expressive to individuals within physical focus.
Now; in your experience you also have allowed, in agreement, an energy
exchange of another essence to be merging with you and to be expressing
objectively through you, so to speak ... although it is not THROUGH you,
for it is a mergence WITH you. In this, you may be acknowledging
and validating yourself that you have participated in an actual energy
exchange.
Also, energy exchanges may not be continuing for what you term to be
long-term periods of time. Essences may choose to be interactive
in a mergence in creating an energy exchange to be delivering specific
information, and once this information has been delivered, they have accomplished
their purpose. Therefore, it is unnecessary to be continuing.
The energy exchange that I engage with Michael holds a different intent.
The intent of this energy exchange is to be offering information to the
most amount of individuals in relation to this shift in consciousness.
SALLY: And thank you so much for that!
ELIAS: I offer much other information also, but all of the information
that I am offering to individuals is directly related to this shift in
consciousness.
I may go in the direction of expressing to an individual information
that is personally involving themselves and their own belief systems and
their own issues and situations, but this also is directly related to this
shift in consciousness, for the action of this shift in consciousness is
to be addressing to belief systems and personal issues and allowing the
acceptance of these, and in that moving each individual into the action
of this shift.
Therefore, the exchange that I engage with Michael is ongoing and shall
continue to be for a time period which you may view as extended, for there
are many individuals that shall draw themselves to this information, and
the point is to be helpful in avoiding trauma within this shift.
This is my intent, and is offered freely to you all.
SALLY: And you are very beautiful at it, very beautiful!
I’m sure that you give hope to people who have just about totally had it
on this planet.
ELIAS: This has occurred.
SALLY: Yes, to me! You are the first light that I have found
since this experience.
ELIAS: Now, let me express to you: this experience has been offered
to you that you may individually, personally experience a widening of awareness,
and the extreme of the experience in creating the energy exchange with
that essence was purposefully created to be attaining your attention.
Individuals that are holding very strongly to belief systems many times
are requiring of very strong imagery and interaction to be gaining their
attention. This has gained your attention!
SALLY: When I do things, I do them!
ELIAS: You, and Michael also! Another plunger into the pond!
SALLY: Yes, I had a feeling we had a lot in common.
ELIAS: You may find this beneficial to be interactive with Michael.
SALLY: Yes!
ELIAS: You may be offering each other much information.
SALLY: Yes, I’ve had that feeling too.
ELIAS: I am quite encouraging of interaction with individuals
within physical focus.
Let me also express to you that that experience has been your initiation,
allowing you the opportunity to plunge yourself into the action of this
shift, the recognition of creation of transition within this continued
physical focus, and to be moving you into the direction of the awareness
of addressing to belief systems, most especially those very strongly held
belief systems and the issues that are surrounding of these belief systems.
Therefore, you have been offered this initiating action, but the misinterpretation
comes in the area that the fullness of the communication was not understood.
The communication was offered with your objective awareness, that you may
allow yourself the opportunity to move into more expansive areas and engage
your periphery. In this....
SALLY: That sounds wonderful! I’ll have to do that!
ELIAS: You have already begun!
In this, the area that you have moved off of your track, so to speak,
is to be concerning yourself with the recapturing or the regaining of the
experience that was offered. Therefore, you are distracting yourself.
You are moving your attention into past. You are focusing your attention
into the area of the recapture or regain of one experience, and in this
you are distracting yourself from NOW.
SALLY: Yes, but I felt so vital doing that! That was the
most awesome, humbling, vital thing! I want to serve. I want
to serve!
ELIAS: But you are!
SALLY: I am?
ELIAS: You are!
SALLY: How? What am I doing now?
ELIAS: You are by your interaction, and now you have drawn yourself
to this forum and you may continue in your direction by offering helpfulness
and information to other individuals. But you, within your creation
of your probabilities, have chosen to be allowing yourself a time framework
to be assimilating information, to be moving in the direction of recognizing
your intent, your direction. This is the reason that you have created
this time period of these two years, to allow yourself the opportunity
to move into the direction more fully of your intent, that you may gain
for yourself objectively the confidence and the acceptance of self that
shall allow you to propel yourself into a more full expression of your
own intent.
Therefore, now you draw yourself to this forum and offer yourself this
experience in exchange with myself that shall be helpful in offering more
clarity to your direction, which within your intent you shall be moving
into the creation of your probabilities, which you have already begun,
to be offering helpfulness and information to other individuals in drawing
them to this information, and in this you are actively participating in
the lessening of trauma within the action of this shift, which is QUITE
purposeful, for many individuals shall be and are already experiencing
much trauma in connection with this shift, and as they begin to address
to their belief systems, they shall be experiencing more trauma.
This is not an easy task!
SALLY: That’s for sure.
ELIAS: You have created very, very strong belief systems within
this physical focus. Therefore, they are not so easily banished.
Many individuals experience much trauma in the addressing to these.
You yourself may be relating to individuals, for you have experienced your
own elements of trauma in addressing to belief systems, and shared experiences
offer validation. You may not objectively fully understand another’s
trauma if you have not offered yourself the experience. Therefore,
you HAVE offered yourself the experience, that you may more efficiently
be addressing to other individuals and offer helpfulness. You also
draw to yourself presently more information in imagery. You offer
yourself the participation with your family.
SALLY: I have a very difficult time interacting with my family
because they are steeped in Catholicism, and I am like the rebel!
ELIAS: But this offers you the opportunity to move into the direction
of acceptance, and in this you present yourself as the straight little
sapling merely by being, and by not moving in the direction of judgment
but moving in the direction of acceptance.
In this, you may also inquire of Michael and express to him that Elias
has expressed to be offering to you my little sapling analogy, and he may
be offering this to you physically.
You move in the direction of connecting yourself with objective imagery
to be mirroring to you your own choices. One individual is creating
of senility, which mirrors to you your own action of creating the action
of transition without moving in the direction of senility, but you are
engaging the same action, merely more slowly. Another family member
offers you a moving away; objective imagery offered to you. Although
painful, it is also a mirror image of your own creation that you may view
objectively. You are moving away from the held belief systems, and
therefore separating yourself to an extent from individuals that you view
to be close to you.
SALLY: Yes, again and again and again!
ELIAS: And your objective imagery is the participation of your
daughter moving away physically. This is a mirror image. You
are offering yourself MANY mirror images presently.
SALLY: Oh, interesting!
ELIAS: They are objective, physical actions that other individuals
are choosing to be creating that are also mirroring to you your own inner
actions.
As to your feelings of anxiety, restlessness, a wishing for disengagement,
offer to yourself the wondrousness of the exploration of this focus, and
that you are choosing within your own probabilities to be continuing for
a time period within this physical focus. You have, in YOUR terms,
“work to do.”
SALLY: Yes, I feel I DO have work to do, but at this point I’ve
had it blown out from under me and from what I THOUGHT I was supposed to
be doing!
ELIAS: For you are moving yourself into a new direction, moving
yourself into the direction of addressing lovingly and acceptingly to other
individuals those aspects of distortion that they incorporate so completely.
Therefore, you now move into the direction of accepting self, that you
may be accepting of other individuals.
SALLY: I think I need to do that, don’t I?
ELIAS: (Intently) It is of ultimate importance that you
are accepting of self in ALL of your expressions, recognizing that they
are not good, they are not bad. They merely are your experiences,
and ALL of your experiences are purposeful, for they are all your exploration
of yourself physically focused.
Once again, I shall repeat: You are NOT used parts, and you are
NOT occupying (humorously) a lowly plane, a learning planet, a learning
dimension!
SALLY: One of the facets of Eckankar, as taught.
ELIAS: You are a magnificent creation, unique to yourself, that
has always been and shall always be. Your attention is merely focused
in one singular direction, creating the perception of separation in one
physical form, but there is no separation.
It is merely a perception, a camouflage.
SALLY: I’d like to get rid of that camouflage!
ELIAS: Ah! But here you move into the direction of the duplicity
of not accepting! The camouflage is wondrous! How amazing that
you have created this form, this physical body, this expression of essence
that may be physically projected and viewed by all! And how wondrous
that you hold the opportunity to experience the fullness of sexuality and
emotion in this particular dimension! Other dimensions do not move
in this direction. How diverse, that you choose to focus your attention
in the area of exploration of emotion, none of which is bad. It merely
is. It is an experience.
SALLY: I read or heard you say something in that regard that has
helped me a lot in that area of sexuality.
ELIAS: Absolutely! What a wondrous dimension you have created
in this, an exploration of separating into genders and into differences
of sexual orientation! How amazing!
SALLY: I think it’s been to me, if you were to ask me on a very
personal basis, a wonderful experience, and I got out of it what I needed
in this life.
ELIAS: Absolutely, and so you shall continue in different areas.
SALLY: Yes. I don’t need that anymore. I feel as though
I’ve gotten everything that I need in a male essence, in a female essence,
and in the middle. I feel complete, and I don’t know if that sounds
crazy, but that’s how I feel!
ELIAS: You are not sounding crazy! You are not experiencing
lunacy! Do not be discounting of yourself. You are experiencing
reality, and this is wondrous!
SALLY: And for you to have said it has been a wonderful freedom
for me, and I thank you for that. That’s helped a lot.
ELIAS: You are very welcome. Let me express to you that
the reason also that you experience the emotion of loss or sadness with
your child, as your child moves into the fullness of their expression,
is that you hold very strong belief systems in the area of parenting.
Let me offer to you, these are ALL belief systems.
SALLY: Oh boy.
ELIAS: Let me express also to you, that may be mildly helpful
to you: you as the parent enter into agreement merely to be offering the
manner for the accomplishment of physical manifestation to another essence.
This is the extent of your agreement; none else.
SALLY: Really?
ELIAS: The entering focus, the child, is choosing of all else.
They are choosing of you specifically. They are choosing of their
interaction. They are choosing of their heritage. They are
choosing of their lineage. They are choosing of their DNA.
They are choosing of what they shall create within interaction with you,
what they shall draw from you, what they shall offer to you. You
are merely offering a window for them to enter into physical manifestation.
SALLY: And how long does that window last? Does it last
to age 21?
ELIAS: It is created only momentarily.
SALLY: Really?
ELIAS: You offer an environment to harbor physically within your
physical form a gestation period and the portal for physical entrance into
this reality. This is the extent of your responsibility. All
else stems from your belief systems.
SALLY: That’s amazing! I’ll have to think about that for
a while!
ELIAS: These are very strongly held mass belief systems and are
quite affecting, but in the recognition of this you may also allow yourself
the detachment, to an extent, in recognition that this individual is merely
continuing in their exploration. And their interaction of what you
term to be dependency, within that belief system, is no longer necessary,
and they may move into the fullness of creating their reality and accepting
their responsibility in their creation of their reality, for this is how
you have created your officially accepted reality within this particular
society, but it is HEAVILY laden with belief systems.
Now; I shall also express to you that your feelings of distress and
sadness are to be acknowledged, for these are your validations to yourself
that you have accomplished well in the area of allowing yourself to be
experiencing affection and love. Therefore, in difference to expressing
to yourself the pushing away of these feelings and the wishing that they
shall discontinue and the non-acceptance of these feelings, embrace these
feelings and acknowledge yourself that you are validating yourself, that
you have created very well in the area of allowing yourself to be experiencing
the intensity of the emotions.
It is very interesting and amusing to myself that so very, very, very
many individuals within physical focus automatically move themselves in
the direction of what you term to be negative, and there is so very much
to be experienced otherwise within excitement and wondrousness, which allows
you joyfulness and fun! I am QUITE advocating of fun!
SALLY: I need some of that in my life! I work too hard and
forgot about that part a lot.
ELIAS: Ah! Moving into the area of much too much expression
within cultural time and not enough allowance in the area of natural time!
SALLY: Yes!
ELIAS: Be listening to your impressions and be recognizing of
your impulses, and DO NOT be denying of your impulses! This is your
language to yourself from essence, and it is not harmful to you.
It naturally moves you into the most efficient directions, but you are
taught within your belief systems to be discounting of your impulses and
to be suspect of your impulses, for they are bad. They are not!
They are your natural language to yourself. Therefore, be listening
to this language.
SALLY: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome. Are you wishing of more inquiry?
SALLY: I think you have given me a great deal to think about,
and I would like to take much time to study all the sessions that you have
in print and to learn as much as I can in my new direction.
ELIAS: And you may be listening to the suggestion that you be
connecting with Michael.
SALLY: I had the feeling all along that we should talk!
ELIAS: He moves very swiftly within consciousness, and although
he leans in the direction of discounting himself also, he has much to offer.
SALLY: Yes, I’ll say! I’m very grateful for Michael!
ELIAS: And be grateful for yourself also, for you also are wondrous!
SALLY: Thank you, Elias.
ELIAS: And you may be calling upon me at any time.
SALLY: Within?
ELIAS: Within yourself.
SALLY: Are you there? Are you here?
ELIAS: Absolutely!
SALLY: How can I contact you?
ELIAS: You may be accessing my energy. You need merely call,
and I shall be with you, and I shall offer you at times validation of this.
You shall view me within your dream state. (Humorously) I am
the handsome lad with the very blue eyes! You shall hold no doubt
in recognition of myself!
SALLY: I would be honored!
ELIAS: You may also be recognizing of my energy at different time
periods, for I may be choosing to be quite playful electrically!
SALLY: Okay! That sounds wonderful! (Elias chuckles)
I need that very, very much after my experience with Rebazar. I’m
hungry!
ELIAS: And you shall be filled, for you shall fill yourself.
SALLY: Thank you.
ELIAS: Now receive from myself presently this blanket of energy
and feel its wrapping around you, for it is offered to you lovingly.
SALLY: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome. I offer to you great affection.
SALLY: Ditto!
ELIAS: And if you are so choosing, you may be engaging me also
objectively, whenever you are choosing. I shall be available to you.
SALLY: Thank you so much!
ELIAS: You are very welcome. I offer to you this day much
fondness, and express to you a very loving au revoir.
Elias departs at 2:18 PM.
FOOTNOTES:
(1) Presently, there is some interesting imagery
regarding Sally’s essence name. I clearly heard Bistell in session
#291, both in pronunciation and in spelling, but Sally clearly heard Bissell.
Sally re-addressed this in session #313, at which time Elias clearly says
Bissell. However, no explanation has been offered.
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