Thursday, May 28, 1998 ©
1998 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Leslie (Margaret).
Leslie is a new participant.
Elias arrives at 11:09 AM. (Arrival time is 20 seconds)
ELIAS: Good afternoon! (Smiling)
LESLIE: Hello? (Elias chuckles) Oh, this is harder
than I thought!
ELIAS: What be your inquiries this day? You need not feel
uncomfortable, for I shall not be biting you! (They both laugh)
LESLIE: Well, I'm sure you know what I'm feeling, so....
(Elias chuckles) I don't remember feeling quite like this!
I tried to figure out my husband's family name and who he was aligned with.
I'm not sure how to pronounce it ... Lida? And aligned with Sumari?
ELIAS: Ilda. (Correcting pronounciation)
LESLIE: Was I right?
ELIAS: Ilda, belonging to.
LESLIE: That's his family?
ELIAS: Correct.
LESLIE: And is he aligned with Sumari?
ELIAS: Alignment, Sumari; also correct.
LESLIE: Oh!
ELIAS: Very good!
LESLIE: I know! It surprised me! (They both laugh)
What's his essence name, please?
ELIAS: Aston; A-S-T-O-N.
LESLIE: And Bill? Is his family Milumet, and aligned with
Tumold?
ELIAS: Essence family, Sumafi; alignment, Tumold.
LESLIE: Oh, okay. And his essence name, please?
ELIAS: Ristaan; R-I-S-T-A-A-N.
LESLIE: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
LESLIE: I asked you a question before -- I had one of the other
people ask -- and you said I was in my final focus?
ELIAS: Correct.
LESLIE: Okay. Am I understanding this correctly, that in
your final focus ... how do I word this?
That there are many focuses, okay? That they all, for lack of wording,
they collapse except for one, and there's one remaining at the very end?
ELIAS: No. Let me explain. All of your focuses are
occurring simultaneously. In this, certain focuses are designated,
so to speak, as a beginning focus and a final focus. Other focuses
do not hold this distinction. Therefore, within physical focus, the
individual, as they are experiencing their physical focus, shall hold an
awareness within them. In your belief systems of remanifestation
or reincarnation, they shall hold this awareness within them that they
have not been reincarnated previous or that they shall be reincarnated
again or that they shall discontinue their cycle of reincarnation.
Now; be understanding I am using this word of reincarnation only for
explanation, for there is no reincarnation and all of your focuses are
simultaneously occurring.
Now; the designation of the beginning focus is merely a designation
that one particular focus has initiated all of the focuses to be manifest
simultaneously within your dimension. Therefore, the individual feels
within them during their focus that they are the "new" or the beginning,
and that -- within their belief systems -- they have not been reincarnated
before.
As a final focus, one focus of all of the focuses of essence that are
manifest within the dimension is designated as the final focus. Therefore,
as that particular focus chooses to disengage from this particular manifestation
within this particular dimension, all other focuses at that time period
of the disengagement of the final focus shall also disengage, or shall
fragment at that time period and continue as a new essence.
LESLIE: Oh, okay. That answers that question. It seems
like there was a major change around thirteen years ago, and then again
five or six years ago, within me, and it's almost very difficult to remember.
It's like I'm a whole different person than
I was in my twenties.
ELIAS: Quite.
LESLIE: And I don't know what happened at those two intervals,
'cause it seems to me that it's a very drastic change.
ELIAS: Quite. This may be explained in this manner:
Many other individuals within physical focus also experience similar
actions and therefore create belief systems in this area that suggest to
them ideas that they have invented, such as "walk-ins" and the like.
This in actuality is not the situation.
At times within an individual focus, the individual exchanges positions
with an alternate self of themselves. You exchange and interchange
with alternate selves continuously throughout your focuses, but for the
most part one aspect of the self, of the focus, designates itself as the
main. In this, at times that particular aspect may fulfill its element
of the value fulfillment of the focus. In this action it shall exchange
positions with an alternate, which is another aspect of the self, the all
of the focus. In this action, there appears to you as the individual
to be dramatic alterations or changes in your focus.
Some individuals actually at times experience elements of what you would
term to be objective memory loss. Other individuals merely recognize
that a profound change has occurred within them, but they hold no explanation,
for they hold no objective realization of this action, for you have chosen
to be selective in your attention and singular in your attention within
each particular focus. This allows you clarity and allows for the
purity of your experiences, but you also are aware when these types of
exchanges are occurring or have occurred, for another aspect of yourself
moves into the primary objective position, and in this is fulfilling of
a different aspect of the value fulfillment within the whole of the individual
focus.
In this, you will also notice that your interests or your talents or
your thought processes or your emotional interaction may be quite altered,
for a different aspect is now the objective "fulfiller." In this,
the focus -- as is the situation with yourself -- chooses to be experiencing
more elements within the one particular focus, that they may be more fully
interactive with their own experiences within their own value fulfillment,
offering themselves a similar type of action to counterpart action, but
expressed objectively within one focus, one self. Is this helpful?
LESLIE: It is, very much so! Let's see. You talked
about faces when you go to sleep at night. You know how you see the
faces?
ELIAS: Correct.
LESLIE: I've read about this, but it doesn't happen anymore!
Why? Very rarely, and I miss them!
ELIAS: (Chuckling) This also would be in alignment with
your experiences within your value fulfillment. Within certain time
frameworks you allow yourself this action within your experience, but as
you also exchange with alternate selves, other aspects of yourself, you
also alter your direction and therefore do not require certain interactions
any longer, for you have altered your direction slightly. Therefore,
your experiences also alter. But you may hold the remembrance of
this action, and if so choosing you may be connecting with this action
once again, but recognize within yourself that this is unnecessary.
You are drawing to yourself, many times in this action, your remembrances
of self, and this serves as a reassurance within physical focus of the
actuality of the lack of disconnection or separation of self and of essence,
but as this is presented, it provides purposefully that which it is summoned
for. Therefore, it is unnecessary for this to be continuing, and
as you gather to yourself more information, as you are, it becomes even
more unnecessary. You look to this as a pleasurable experience, and
this shall serve you within your emotional aspect of your focus as comforting
and as the remembrance that there is no separation of essence.
LESLIE: Okay, then that applies also to -- I don't know how much
to detail because they're going to be typing this -- the smells
that I was getting. They would last a week and then they'd go away.
And then another one: I was watching an advertisement on television about
Wells Fargo, and all of a sudden, in the house, I could smell the horses.
I mean, like they were right here! Actually, I thought it was kind
of cool! And then after that, the smells would last like one week,
different smells -- urine smell like from a barn, there was an electrical
smell -- and these went on, lasting one week, and then now those have also
stopped. And there were pots falling off....
ELIAS: This is the same action. You may engage all of your
physical senses in this action. It is an allowance of yourself to
be validating objectively within your focus that you are not singular as
you appear to be within your attention. You have allowed yourself
the participation in more clarity, which also is conjunctive to your alignment.
LESLIE: That's good to know! I'm still headed in the right
direction anyway!
ELIAS: Absolutely! (They both laugh)
LESLIE: Okay. Very quickly, I had a dream. It was
a strange dream, but I was riding in ... it's almost embarrassing to mention
it. I was riding in the back seat of a car down a road, and there
were fields, I believe, on either side. There were two men in the
front seat, and I was tied up in the back seat. They hit the brakes
and the car spun around at the end of the road, which turned into the ocean.
They disappeared, and as I was bobbing around on the ocean, I kept waiting
for the car to take on water and sink, but it didn't. And I kept
bobbing along, and pretty soon I'm thinking to myself, negatively of course,
but anyway, when the car finally turned around, there was probably ...
since I didn't take on water, there was going to be a ship there waiting
for me, to hit me, not to get on board! (Elias chuckles) And
then there was like a canal, and I was headed for the canal, and in the
little alcove there were houses. I drifted over toward the houses.
Everyone was sitting on their porches, and they were just watching me,
and nobody helped. That was the end of the dream, that I recall.
What did it mean?
ELIAS: Let me express to you, in explanation of your imagery to
yourself: In this, you have begun by offering yourself imagery that
you are bound within a container, a vehicle that other individuals are
manipulating or steering or driving. This imagery is that of your
objective expression within this focus. In conjunction with other
individuals, you create imagery in this dream that you are contained within
this vehicle, which is yourself; representative of your focus. The
other individuals are individuals -- or the representatives of individuals
-- within your focus that are, in your viewing, quite affecting of you
and holding to you, and in this at times manipulating of you. The
imagery of being bound is that imagery related to the belief system that
you are held within the vessel of your physical form.
Now you move to the area that this vehicle is plunged within your sea
but does not sink, and you are safely contained within this vehicle; the
vessel. The individuals have disappeared, for you have moved into
the creation of imagery that the water is the whole of essence. Now
you are not focusing upon your objective interaction with other individuals,
but moving into the area of focusing upon self and allowing yourself a
realization of the safety within self. Although you anticipate fearfulness
and you anticipate harmfulness, you also offer yourself within this imagery
none of that like, but you continue to be safely contained within the vessel,
moving through the whole and vastness of essence.
Then you move into an allowance of your canal, which is the stream-way
of the focusing of essence. Therefore, it is continued to be imaged
as water being connected and the same element as the whole of essence,
but moving into a streamline; which you view many individuals watching
you, but not interacting with you.
These individuals are representative of all of your focuses within the
streamline of essence to be focused within this dimension. This be
the reason that they do not interact with you, for they are their own focuses
of your essence and do not concern themselves with your movement, but you
remain safe within your vessel.
LESLIE: Oh, that's wonderful!
ELIAS: Therefore, you are continued to be contained and separated,
so to speak, in imagery from the other focuses, but recognizing that you
are also with them, for you may view them as you are traveling through
the streamline of essence which is projected into physical focus.
Quite interesting imagery that you have offered to yourself! This
would be indicative of the movement that you presently are engaging, recognizing
the value of self but the vastness of essence and the interconnectedness
of essence and the safety within yourself.
LESLIE: Thank you very much for that!
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
LESLIE: It seemed like a bad dream, and it wasn't at all!
(They both laugh) How we misinterpret, don't we?
ELIAS: Many times, that which you perceive objectively to be unfamiliar
is creating within you an element of fearfulness. Therefore, you
may be misinterpreting of your own imagery in that there is no harmfulness
within your imagery to yourself -- this is your language to yourself --
but in the exploration of your language of imagery to yourself, you may
find objectively the unfamiliarity, and this be the element that is creating
of the feeling of uncomfortableness or of fearfulness, therefore in your
terms to be a "bad" dream ... although there are no "bad" dreams!
(Chuckling)
LESLIE: I should choose my words more carefully! (Elias
chuckles) Is there any way to interpret our own dreams so that we
understand them? I mean, does it get easier? Can we interpret
them eventually?
ELIAS: If you are so choosing, you may be following and engaging
in what Michael terms to be your dream mission, and this shall provide
you the avenue to be understanding objectively more clearly your language
to yourself within your dream imagery. You may be connecting with Michael
or Lawrence in this area, and they shall be providing you with information
of this dream mission and may be helpful to you in your engagement in this
also, if you are so choosing.
LESLIE: Okay. Whew! Lots of information! I had
to -- or chose to, whatever -- put my little dog
to sleep a week ago. Are my physical symptoms that I've been having
related to her?
ELIAS: Yes.
LESLIE: Okay. It sounds cold, but I don't feel bad about
it. I think I should, but I feel like I did what I needed to do.
ELIAS: And why shall you feel distress in this action? This
is a response to a belief system, but it is unnecessary, for this has been
an agreement. Therefore, there is no harmfulness that has occurred.
You have created an agreement with this creature and you have followed
through in the action of this agreement, sharing physical ailments to be
moving through certain issues.
LESLIE: Okay. Well, that explains that too. Now, I
have another little dog. There's two things he's doing, and I need
to know -- or I'd like to know anyway -- what I'm doing to create these,
okay? First of all, he doesn't bark unless I'm here. When I'm
here, he seems to bark a lot! And then, he's wetting on the bed at
various times. I'd like to know what I'm doing to create or make
him do this or whatever.
ELIAS: This would be an action that the creature is creating for
your attention, and your agreements and creations have been interactive
and projective with the OTHER creature. Now; this creature holds
an awareness of the agreement held between yourself and your other creature.
In this, you hold to your energy, not wishing to engage the same action
with this creature. The creature then in response to you engages
the action of barking, for this is the expression of communication, of
language, and in this the creature is objectively attempting to be receiving
your attention, that you may recognize that this creature also has drawn
itself to you as you have drawn to it, and holds the willingness to be
interactive with you in not holding to your energy so tightly, which is
creating a fearfulness that you may be projecting this same situation with
this new creature. As the communication appears to be insufficient
in attaining your attention, another action is incorporated that you SHALL
offer your attention to! (Leslie laughs) But in this, the creature
has chosen two actions that shall create an irritation, which the creature
is expressing to you the recognition of the irritation held within the
energy that you hold.
LESLIE: I don't know that I completely understand how to ... what
he wants from me. I give him attention. He's not the same as
Dolly ... he isn't! He's his own little self.
ELIAS: Quite.
LESLIE: But I don't understand what I'm not giving to him.
Do you mean I'm still hanging on to Dolly even though she's gone, or the
feeling I had for her?
ELIAS: No. Let me express once again, that you may hold
more clarity.
You have made an agreement previously with the first creature, and in
this allowed an exchange of energy, a sharing of energy in experience of
certain elements that you create within yourself, physical effects within
yourself, and in sharing this, your creature has agreed to create those
elements that you choose not to create and to be affected in a manner that
you choose not to affect yourself presently, and in this disengage within
agreement to you.
Now you move to the new creature, but within your interaction of the
new creature, it is not that objectively you do not offer enough attention
to the creature itself. The situation is that as the first creature
has disengaged, now you hold to your energy singularly, for you do not
share the action any longer with that creature. In holding to your
energy singularly within your own issues, which create physical manifestation
... are you following?
LESLIE: Yes.
ELIAS: Very well. In holding to this energy, the new creature
holds the recognition that you are holding to this energy. The new
creature is expressing this recognition, and in its expression is attempting
to communicate to you that the energy that you are holding within you within
your own issues, which creates physical effects ... that energy is irritating
within you. It is uncomfortable. It is creating of uncomfortable
physical effects. The creature is recognizing of this and also attempting
an expression that it is within agreement to be sharing this energy with
you, but you are not in agreement to this action, for you have been in
agreement with the other creature and you wish not to be creating of the
same action. Therefore, in this the creature continues to display
behavior, that it may be communicating with you its recognition of your
held energy and the effect of your held energy. In this, it very
creatively chooses expressions that mirror the energy that you hold within
yourself. The energy held within yourself is irritating to your physical
form. The expression which is put forth by the creature is an action
within behavior which is irritating outside of you. They mirror....
LESLIE: So it's trying to get my attention so that I understand
that I'm doing this?
ELIAS: Yes.
LESLIE: Okay, now what do I need to do to release this energy?
I realize that I'm creating my own ailments. I just don't know what
I'm not doing or doing that ... do you know what I'm trying to say?
ELIAS: Correct. These would be issues with belief systems
and emotional aspects of your experience and of your focus, a drivingness
that you place upon yourself which also creates at times an emotional affectingness.
These are based in influence by belief systems that this be necessary for
you to be quite focused within cultural time and driving of yourself in
certain areas, therefore not allowing yourself a natural flow and an easement
within your focus. In addressing to these belief systems and the
actions that are created as influenced by these belief systems, this shall
also be affecting of the behavior of the creature.
LESLIE: So basically what you're saying to me is, I'm pushing
too hard and it's not necessary.
ELIAS: Correct.
LESLIE: Okay. I have two jobs. One of them is managing
a park, and the other is retail sales. I'm allowing people to push
my buttons, for lack of a better word. Is it because I'm not accepting
them for who they are? Is that what's creating this? 'Cause
this has been an issue ongoing for a very long time.
ELIAS: This also is conjunctive to what we have been discussing
presently. This be the issue that is
related to the belief system which is creating of the situation objectively
of your pushing within yourself, your driving within yourself, and therefore
also creating of physical affectingness within yourself. This is all interconnected
with the action of your creature, with the action of your creation of your
physical aspects and discomfort, and [in] this you would be correct in
your difficulties in the acceptance of other individuals. But this
also is conjunctive to the lack of acceptance within yourself, for within
the acceptance of yourself, you also shall recognize more of an acceptance
of other individuals.
In the action of allowing another individual to be in your terms "pushing
your buttons," what you are expressing is your lack of acceptance within
yourself, and therefore you create a defense outwardly, and in creating
this it is objectively expressed at times as other individuals creating
irritation for you. But other individuals are merely expressing,
and you are drawing these expressions to you in creating the same mirror
action, reflecting the outward irritation which is reflective of the inward
irritation.
LESLIE: So what you're basically saying is, I need to address
my belief systems, 'cause I really would like to move through this lesson!
ELIAS: Correct.
LESLIE: And addressing my belief systems will accomplish that?
ELIAS: Correct.
LESLIE: Okay. Let's see, without a parlor trick....
(They both chuckle) I'm having some difficulty. I want to just
do this all the time. I just want to concentrate on the essence and
being able to move forward and stuff. I don't seem to be able to
direct my energy to work as much as I used to, because it doesn't seem
quite as important. However, I need to work! But can you lend
me any suggestions about how to ... I just don't know what direction to
go in. I know what direction to go into
as far as all THIS goes, but as far as the rest of the physical focus,
with work and that, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing in that
direction.
ELIAS: Let me express to you that many, many times individuals
move into the direction of separation of what they view to be their objective
physical life, so to speak, and their spirituality. In this separation
you also create many blocks, for you do not incorporate the all or the
whole of your unitedness in your focus. This also, once again, relates
to all of this of which we have been speaking within this session.
There is no separation of these elements of self, for all of yourself
is within the realm of what you term to be your spirituality. There
is no element of yourself or your actions or your interactions that is
NOT an expression of your term of spirituality, for in actuality there
is no spirituality, for all is spirituality! It is merely a term
that you have placed upon your philosophies of elements that you view to
be "higher" or "more connected" or "better" than your physical "earth plane
learning school" self. (Chuckling)
LESLIE: So in other words, it's not either/or. It's all.
ELIAS: Correct, and in this you offer yourself the opportunity
within every moment to be exercising the whole and the acceptance of self
and the acceptance of other individuals and the expression of that which
you term to be your spirituality, but in this be remembering of what I
have expressed to you also, to be tempering of your drivingness of yourself
within your cultural time.
LESLIE: Okay, I will. Gee, we could go on forever, but I'd
probably better not! (Elias chuckles) I've got more information
than ... I'll have to digest all of what I've gotten.
ELIAS: Very good.
LESLIE: I want to thank you ever so much!
ELIAS: You are very, very welcome.
LESLIE: I very much appreciate this.
ELIAS: I offer you affection and encouragement in your endeavors
and your creations, and an acknowledgment in your movement in this area.
Be reminding of yourself of your dream and its interpretation, and this
shall be encouraging to you that you are moving and that you are offering
yourself information to be accomplishing in all of these areas that you
are choosing to be accomplishing in. Therefore, accept my acknowledgment
of you also.
LESLIE: Thank you so much. That means a lot!
ELIAS: You are very welcome. I shall offer to you my affection,
and I shall be expressing to you this day quite lovingly, au revoir!
Elias departs at 12:05 PM.
Vic's note: It seems that Elias' propensity to use run-on sentences
is accelerating. I hope this script is readable!
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