The Bobsey Twins
Topics:
"The Bobsey Twins"
Thursday, January 22, 1998 ©
1998 (Private)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence),
Nicky (Candace), and Jene (Rudim, although Elias usually refers to Jene
as Rudy).
Elias arrives at 5:04 PM. (Arrival time is twenty seconds)
ELIAS: Good evening! (Grinning)
JENE: Good evening!
ELIAS: So, we meet once again! (Jene hasn't attended a session
for quite some time)
JENE: Once again ... as if you have ever been gone!
(Laughter)
ELIAS: Very good observation!
JENE: I don't miss everything! (More laughter)
ELIAS: (Chuckling) And you have inquiries this day?
JENE: Well, first of all, the knocking on the head ... is
this at an end? I would request that it be at an end. It hurts!
ELIAS: This would be your choice!
JENE: Oh, good! I choose for it to end! Got
your message in the dream state. Yes, I would like the lipstick!
(Elias grins) So, here I am. I figured since I asked for a
personal invitation and you gave me one, I'm here!
ELIAS: Very well ... which shall be to your own benefit!
JENE: Always! (Fifteen-second pause, during which
Elias get an amused expression on his face)
ELIAS: Shall we sit? (Laughter)
NICKY: This is going to be interesting! (Nicky and Jene
discuss who's going to go first)
JENE: You go ahead! I'm here!
NICKY: Okay. I always end up doing this! Okay, something
came up today. I can't make any sense of it. We researched
it real quickly. Rain-maker? Rain-dancer? Could you tell
me something about that?
ELIAS: Are you wishing of sharing this information?
NICKY: Yes.
ELIAS: Then I shall be suggestive to you that you expound for
the benefit of individuals that also shall be acquiring this information.
THEY are not telepathic! (Grinning)
NICKY: Oh, what a shame! And we try so hard! We were
having a conversation, Jene and I, and in the midst of it I came out and
said rain-maker or rain-dancer, which had nothing to do with what we were
talking about. So, it became very predominant, and immediately both
of us went to, "What does it mean?"
JENE: And we started looking through our different books
for an association.
NICKY: Therefore, the question.
ELIAS: This be an identification of a bleed-through of a focus
shared.
NICKY: Oh! What time period?
ELIAS: Within your seventeenth century.
NICKY: Really! Why is the seventeen century so predominant
with so many people? I mean, there's loads of centuries to be going
to. How come everybody always goes to the seventeenth century?
ELIAS: Many connections are made within the eighteenth century!
NICKY: Oh, the eighteenth? This one is the seventeenth,
though.
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: Within what geographical location?
ELIAS: Of your southern America.
JENE: Southern America. And our alignment at the time,
in the bleed-through?
ELIAS: Brothers.
NICKY: Oh, neat!
JENE: So, MANY focuses, many, many, many focuses, most of
all of the focuses that I recognize ...
NICKY: I've been involved!
JENE: ... she's been involved.
ELIAS: Many focuses.
JENE: When I feel like one is, it is.
ELIAS: Correct.
NICKY: Oh, very interesting! Okay. And then speaking
of focuses and stuff like that, what focuses have you and I shared?
ELIAS: And shall you be investigating? (Grinning)
NICKY: Well, I've tried, and it's wide open territory! Just
give me a little ... you know, a little push!
JENE: No, don't ask for that!
NICKY: No, no, no! (Jene and Nicky are cracking up)
JENE: Or down the stairs and BANG on your head you'll go!
(Laughter) I would like to address the fall on the stairs, being
my choice, obviously, with some understanding. My first interpretation
was that it was the young man behind me; in thought, not in actual physical
pushing. And then I started blaming you -- not blaming, well yeah,
blaming -- for the push, and you were able to slow me down during that
time frame of all the things that were going on, incidences that were happening
at that time. So, did I push me, did you push me, or did he push
me? Or did all three of us push me? Because I did not slip.
It was not a slipping; it was a pushing. I felt the push, not from
physical hands ...
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: ... from energy; from consciousness. We all
pushed me?!
ELIAS: YOU physically thrust. Within consciousness, I have
offered a push.
JENE: Okay. So the information that simultaneously
went through my consciousness -- of the push, the understanding, the experience,
the completion without physical harm, and the molecules of the wall that
I smashed against like a huge obstacle -- when the wall basically concaved
to meet my face, was that from you or was that an agreement within consciousness
with both?
ELIAS: Both, for lack of harmfulness.
JENE: Okay, alright. I was right in understanding
that. So the bruise that's still causing short-term memory loss within
the brain will heal and that memory shall return? (Laughing)
ELIAS: This is YOUR creation.
JENE: The bruise is my creation?
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: The bruise was not created by the physical force of
the meeting of the two elements?
ELIAS: No.
JENE: I created the bruise myself?
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: For distraction?
ELIAS: Correct; to allow yourself a time framework of non-remembering.
NICKY: Of taking a break, so to speak?
ELIAS: Of slowing.
JENE: Of slowing, because I was moving too fast?
ELIAS: You are attempting to be assimilating much information
in a small time frame, and in this you may also be confusing yourself.
Therefore, you have created a physical situation that you may understand
and attach to within your belief systems that shall offer an explanation
of physical memory loss, or blocking of remembering.
JENE: Okay. Obviously that was needed at that time.
ELIAS: It has been chosen by yourself to be preventing confusion
within yourself. At times, individuals, within their excitement of
movement within the shift and attaching to their belief systems, they may
be attempting movement much more quickly than they may assimilate, and
this causes confusion. In this, they shall offer themselves an experience
that shall prevent this.
JENE: I see. Now is that directly related to the lack
of fearfulness in dealing with the authority figures in this particular
experience with these people, in starting out for myself and ending up
encompassing the whole crew?
ELIAS: You are attempting to be moving through fear issues.
JENE: Fear issues. Okay, that's what I thought.
ELIAS: Therefore, you also create objective imagery for yourself
that shall be suggestive and reinforcing of your own accomplishments.
JENE: Okay, 'cause that's what I thought I was experiencing
as it was happening. I was assimilating the information, dealing
with the situation objectively, listening subjectively, not feeling the
fear, and then it would slide in, and then it would create disturbance,
and then it would be gone, and then it just seemed to assimilate itself.
The situation would arise, it would be handled, and it would dissipate
within a short period of time.
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: Okay. Okay, how did that ... well, it was my
choice. It's terrible when you know that answer! (Laughter)
It doesn't leave you a lot of places to go! Okay. So the symbolism
of the tree standing alone was what I believed it to be at the time?
And the three birds, one singular, then two ... no, three first, then two,
then one. In that, I heard within my subjective and objective consciousness
the information symbolically at the time of this particular movement.
Is that also correct?
ELIAS: (Nodding) And be remembering your symbol of the tree
in reference to the sapling.
NICKY: Interesting, very interesting! Okay, when I asked
you a few Sundays ago if it was connected, if what transpired with me that
week was connected with what happened to her, you said yes.
ELIAS: Correct.
NICKY: Okay, in the same manner that you're telling her?
Is it the same for me?
ELIAS: This has been an empathic connection that you have allowed
yourself.
NICKY: Okay, that's what I thought.
JENE: Okay, my friend Kelly would like to know what her
essence name is and her family, and she does plan to come at some time.
She's very curious, even though she's very religiously focused. She
likes listening to the information, and she is accepting. She also
wants to know what our connections are, and how many. I know some
myself, I think, but she wants to see it in print, or hear it.
ELIAS: I shall offer essence name of Sonya, and Sonya may attend
this forum and may inquire of these questions herself!
JENE: Well, for my curiosity, I perceive her as Sumafi aligned
with Borledim; her close connection with her children and her animals.
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: And her teaching abilities of the Sumafi. I
also experience an aspect of her as perhaps a fragment or an aspect of
my son Kelly.
ELIAS: No, although they have shared some focuses.
JENE: They have shared?
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: Okay. (Seventeen-second pause)
NICKY: I'm going to back-track for a minute. I still need
my hint of what focuses we shared!
ELIAS: Ah!
JENE: Persistent!
ELIAS: Quite!
NICKY: Just a hint!
ELIAS: Investigate time framework of third century ...
NICKY: Oh, too neat! Third century!
JENE: There you go! A little biblical stuff happening.
ELIAS: ... within Arabic location.
JENE: Well, that rings your bells!
NICKY: Yeah, it does! Too neat! Okay, I know I have
a connection to Margot. Is her asthma problem something I'm sharing
with her?
ELIAS: No.
NICKY: Something of my own creation?
ELIAS: Correct.
NICKY: Oh, disgusting! Tell me why! I want to know
why!
JENE: Is this pleurisy instead of bronchitis?
ELIAS: They are terms for very similar creations.
JENE: Okay. I think this was pleurisy with a rib effect.
Two ribs are out, hips are out, and it's pleurisy. They keep diagnosing
it as bronchitis, but I received that it was pleurisy, which is different.
That's a viral thing.
NICKY: Oh, that's why the antibiotics seem to be not working?
JENE: Right.
NICKY: Okay. Her perception is right on that, isn't it?
ELIAS: You are creating a constriction.
JENE: A constriction in the lungs.
NICKY: And that's related to fear, is it not?
ELIAS: Partially.
NICKY: Partially. What other areas should I be investigating
then?
ELIAS: It also is a creation that you have chosen, to be constricting
of yourself in relation to your own issues with personal responsibility
and not allowing your own expression.
NICKY: Oh my god! So it goes back to the personal responsibility
again?? First, I did the back, and the back didn't work, right?
So now I had to go to something like this?
ELIAS: Quite creative! (Laughter)
JENE: You'll be on crutches pretty soon!
NICKY: Don't say that! I keep hitting my toe. Is that
the same reasoning behind that too?
ELIAS: You are quite adept at creating physical elements for your
own attention. This also would be influenced within the area of parallel
action between yourself and Michael. He is quite adept at creating
physical elements also!
NICKY: Is this how we use some of our creativity?
ELIAS: This is what attains your attention!
JENE: As does falling down stairs attain mine!
NICKY: Yeah, right! Okay, could you explain something as
far as the Sumari intent? I'm really having
a hard time. I went to the Seth books, I looked over your material,
and it's explained basically in one word: creative. Okay, that's
fine, but when I hear someone else referring to it ... it's the double-whammy
thing because I'm Sumari aligned with Sumari. It's the pot-stirrers.
They all put negative connotations to it, and I'm just having a real hard
time believing that's the only thing to this double-whammy Sumari thing.
ELIAS: How are you presenting yourself with information of negativity?
NICKY: It appears to be negative, what I'm receiving; how I perceive
other people's responses to it.
ELIAS: The Sumari are quite creative, although I shall be expressing
to you that within your intent, this be another factor, so to speak, in
HOW you are creating, and partially -- partially -- why you find difficulty
in connecting to your intent, so to speak.
NICKY: Because of the way I'm perceiving it? Because I AM
having difficulty aligning with the intent. I am!
ELIAS: Many individuals, which we have discussed recently,
that align with the same family that they also are belonging to, create
conflict within their intent, for they lean in the area of blocking the
intent within the alignment , which many individuals within physical
focus in their choice of alignment lean in the direction of blocking their
intent, but in doing this, you are also blocking the intent of the family
that you BELONG to, for they are the same.
NICKY: Yeah, right. So how does the difficulty ... where
does the difficulty come in? Because you would think that they would
be more likely to ... I always think it should be easy for me to see it
because they're the same. So there should be no conflict, but I can't
even get close to the arena!
ELIAS: Individuals belong to an essence family. The intent
of that essence family is held throughout essence. Therefore, it
becomes an underlying intent within an individual focus. It is naturally
and automatically followed. It creates no conflict for the individual
focus. The reason for this is that the individual focus for the most
part aligns with a different family. In aligning with a different
family, the attention is placed upon the family alignment. In the
attention being placed on the family alignment, the attention is NOT placed
on the family that you are belonging to. Therefore, you allow a free-flow
and a natural cooperation in intent of the family that you belong to, but
you create confusion and conflict within certain areas of the family that
you ALIGN with.
Now; when you are belonging to the same family that you are ALIGNING
with, those areas that you move in of creating confusion and conflict within
the intent of alignment spill over, so to speak, into blocking of your
family that you belong to also, for you have no distracting intent.
The intent is the same.
NICKY: So then why does it become distracting or confusing?
If it's all the same thing, wouldn't it be flowing more smoothly?
ELIAS: No.
NICKY: Well, is that why you call it a double-whammy?
ELIAS: Yes, for you automatically within the physical focus move
into leanings of areas that you block the intent of the alignment, which
then automatically blocks the intent of the family that you belong to.
NICKY: Oh my god! Okay, what kind of exercise ... or what
would my line of thought be to help me get through to recognize what I
need to recognize so I'm running smoothly?
ELIAS: Initially, attempt to be acknowledging yourself in viewing
this particular focus and the accomplishments that you have created within
the intent of the Sumari objectively. This shall allow you a framework
to begin to identify the areas that you are not accepting of the alignment
and the intent within the alignment, for each area that you are not accepting
of the alignment, these also are blocking within the intent of the family
that you belong to, which is the same.
JENE: Now within the Sumari family, the essence of Sumari,
is the only ... not meaning only in finality. Is the strongest aspect
of the family as creators, to create? Are there subdivisions that
make completions? There was somewhere in a transcript I read ...
I find I can start a million projects and finish maybe half of them, let's
say, because my attention gets distorted and I think of something else
and want to move something else or create something else. Now, I
have alignments with other families, like the Vold family, and I must have
something to do with Zuli, Milumet, and Gramada. I mean, I can experience
some of those aspects. But is there subdivision or is there completion
to creation, or just creation and move on to yet another creation?
It's kind of frustrating!
ELIAS: This be elements that you may look to that you are NOT
accepting of the intent of this family of consciousness. The Sumari
are crea-TIVE. They are not necessarily crea-TORS. They are
very crea-TIVE.
NICKY: It doesn't necessitate completion?
ELIAS: No. There are many subdivisions of all these essence
families, but the basic intent of all of the subdivisions is the same as
the nine families of consciousness. They are merely slightly -- very
slightly -- different. In this, the Sumari are very diverse.
They are very versatile. This allows them the ability to be very
creative. They are not bound by any one area. In expressing
the expression of "pot-stirrers," this is not negative. Individuals
that are Sumari are agitators.
JENE: Oh, we go from pot-stirrers to agitators! I KNEW I
was one of those! (Laughter)
ELIAS: You hold a new invention within your century which is to
be washing of your garments. It holds an agitator. It is not
negative! It merely mixes. It churns; it mixes. Therefore,
this also be the action of the Sumari family. They also are concerned
with attaining attention; attention of other individuals and attention
of themselves.
JENE: Attention for themselves. To be accepting of
self and to be accepting of others?
ELIAS: In one aspect, yes.
JENE: Is there an aspect within the essence of the Sumari
family that finds itself fighting for justice for ALL?
ELIAS: Not necessarily.
JENE: Well, what is that?
ELIAS: This would be Vold. The Sumari are not as interested
in justice. They hold a slight interest in this area, but it is slight.
They are more concerned with bringing attention to ideas and concepts and
creativity and action.
NICKY: Okay, then what we call conflict, within that idea alone,
is because of our belief systems of, "We have to finish things. We
have to be doing this. We shouldn't be doing that. I shouldn't
have my head in five million places."
ELIAS: Correct.
NICKY: And that's where the conflict is.
ELIAS: Absolutely. You hold belief systems quite aligned
with cultural time, and you do not allow your own free flow of your own
free expression. This is causing of MUCH conflict within the Sumari
family.
NICKY: Alright. That all makes sense then.
JENE: So the Vold family, in alignment with the Sumari family,
in my experience in Jamaica, were very involved with each other.
ELIAS: The Vold presents itself within the present now as being
pronounced, for it is very instrumental within the action of this shift.
Therefore, they are more obvious presently.
JENE: I was certainly obvious! Whew! That was
very unnerving at times. Very gratifying at other times, but very
unnerving, to be representing a full crew, a full group of people who were
afraid to stand up for themselves for simple issues of food. Anyway,
no point in going there. You know what took place. But that
was more aligned with the Vold family at that point?
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: And was that particular ... well, there were many
different situations. Was the simplicity of the experience with Jasmine,
with accepting of herself and being accepted by another female, the purpose
of that visit to Jamaica? Was it the falling down the stairs, or
was it like multiplicity in aspect? Because I knew before I left
that it was going to be a complicated situation, that I didn't really want
to go. I went for the money, basically.
ELIAS: Or so you believe! (Grinning)
JENE: Or so I believed at the time! And then I became
like somebody like Lancelot riding a horse through the whole situation,
standing up for many people, including myself.
ELIAS: And offering yourself many opportunities to view your own
issues and to attempt to be coming to terms, so to speak, with these issues.
THIS be the purpose of your trip, not for financial gain.
JENE: Well, I used that as an excuse to pay the bills!
(Laughter) Okay, that was the intent of that particular experience.
It was a VERY interesting experience! Okay, a long time ago I asked,
"What am I supposed to be doing?" You said it was right in front
of my nose. Well, I've looked at my feet, I've looked at my hands,
I've looked at the phone, I've looked at the computer, I've looked at my
house, I've looked at my nose, and I still can't find out what's right
under my nose! So in the thick of things, when one can't see the
forest for the trees, I ask again: "What is right under my nose?"
It is a continual investigation. I need a hint! I'm thick!
(Laughter)
ELIAS: My suggestion to you is that you recognize what you need
be addressing to within yourself first. You ARE....
JENE: This could take the rest of my life!
ELIAS: No, it shall not.
JENE: Okay, good. No more falling down stairs!
ELIAS: You ARE accomplishing in this area. You are right
before you, and you have been presenting yourself to you in a more realistic
manner from our first meeting; addressing to your own belief systems and
your own issues, which restrain you and limit you.
JENE: Okay, so this is my connection with Rob from England,
within that paragraph in one of the sessions, that you made very clear?
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: This WAS pointed information at that time. Am
I correct?
NICKY: Are they parallel counterparts?
JENE: Yes. Well, we have some kind of connection,
especially in the non-acceptance of self and non-acceptance of others and
our isolation and our....
ELIAS: Quite!
JENE: Yeah. I recognized that instantly.
ELIAS: This has been what you have offered to yourself within
this time period. Now you offer yourself the opportunity to move
beyond this. You have been addressing to and offering yourself the
identification of some belief systems and some issues. Now you may
also offer yourself information of yourself and your creativity, and in
the area of acceptance of self, that may allow you movement within the
action of this shift.
NICKY: So it's all related to the action of the shift then?
ELIAS: Quite!
JENE: Oh yeah, but there's nothing definite!
ELIAS: You may also be connecting with this information offered
of the Sumari family, and allow yourself the opportunity to view the areas
that you are blocking in this also.
JENE: I think I'll go to an acupuncturist and have her open
them all at once! (Laughter)
ELIAS: I may be offering a push in consciousness, but YOU have
created the thrust for your OWN attention.
JENE: Okay. That's a choice. I choose to do
that. I can accept that, I think. It has been a desire for
a long time.
ELIAS: I am aware.
JENE: I have a question that we both ... it has nothing
to do with anything deep, I don't think, at this moment, but we may find
something different. We have a fixation with chairs!
NICKY: Oh yeah, tremendously so!
JENE: I have many chairs -- I always have -- and I share
chairs. I give them to people. I buy lots of chairs.
I gather chairs. What is the connection with chairs? I have
chairs all over my yard, and I'm the only person there! There's chairs
in every room, and I sit in all of them! But I'm not connecting with
a time frame, other than the one focus that I remember of the conference
room during the occupation in Germany, with the general who watched as
the Jews were taken away on the train. I remember that particular
situation, looking through the window, and the chairs that were lined up
in the conference room. That's the only connection I make with chairs.
ELIAS: It is merely another noticing within another focus.
Connect to and engage your new game, and you may be offering yourself information
of carpenters creating chairs ...
NICKY: I could do that!
JENE: I always want to upholster them, but I never do it!
ELIAS: ... therefore allowing yourself the noticing, within more
than one focus, of the design of these.
NICKY: So that's something we shared then too?
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: (Laughing) It's beginning to feel like we're
Siamese twins! (More like The Bobsey Twins!) Well, it's nice
to know somebody else is in it too! (I must say, these two gals laughed
more than they talked in this session! What a pair!)
Okay, curiosity. We seem to feel, and maybe this is a perception
of an objective distortion, that we have a difficult time with the Sumafi
family, in communication, in understanding.... (Here, Elias sits
straight up, pretending to be insulted)
NICKY: Hold on just a second! (Laughter)
JENE: Hold on a minute! The back goes up! I
took notice! (Elias chuckles) But it does appear that way.
NICKY: It appears that way, like there's a static in the communication.
JENE: There seems to be a rubbing, okay? You know,
how you can make a sore? That seems to be the action that is experienced
that we find in common, that we share within our communication. Now,
it possibly is our perception of the situation or the communication, or
is there something more?
ELIAS: Many times individuals belonging to the Sumari family shall
hold slight difficulty objectively with the Sumafi, for objectively they
express themselves in a manner that one wishes to be free-flowing and unconstrained,
and the other is greatly lending attention to detail.
NICKY: Yeah, right! That's it!
ELIAS: Therefore, it APPEARS to be in conflict, although within
counterpart action of these two families, if you are connecting with the
intents of these families, they also work within a great harmony, allowing
both expressions. It is merely an action of acceptance that these
are complementary to each other and not in conflict with each other.
NICKY: Yeah, I can see that! 'Cause that added to my confusion!
It's like what's going on is very complementary. They're very detailed,
and we just put it out there, you know? And they like to put it together,
and we get irritated because it shouldn't be constrained. Right?
ELIAS: Correct. This be the reason that many individuals
belonging to one of these families and aligning with the other also hold
somewhat of an ease within their focus, for they are naturally complementing
of each other.
NICKY: Yeah! See, that's how Michael is. Michael is
Sumafi/Sumari, and he's well at home with himself! (Michael is Nicky's
son)
JENE: Right, and he's pretty at ease with us.
NICKY: Yeah, right. Only once in a while does he get irritated!
(Laughter) Okay, that's understandable. That makes sense.
ELIAS: We shall break, and you may continue with your questioning.
BREAK 5:51 PM
RESUME 6:24 PM (Time was ten seconds)
ELIAS: Continuing.
JENE: (To Nicky) Go ahead. Better ask something
for Mike.
NICKY: Yeah, I'm getting an impression, and I have since I came
here. Mike has a list of questions for you. Correct me if I'm
wrong, but my impression is that they're not going to be answered via me,
that he's going to have to make an appearance.
ELIAS: Very good!
NICKY: Okay, so I won't even go there! That eliminates a
whole bunch here. Okay, within the present, right in this moment,
the probabilities, how long will it be before he shows his precious little
face in front of yours?
ELIAS: This would be his choice!
NICKY: His choice, okay. Is fear the element that he's dealing
with as far as appearing here?
ELIAS: Partially.
NICKY: Partially, huh? What is the other part?
ELIAS: Rebelliousness.
NICKY: Ah!!
JENE: Another aspect he and I share! So if we told
him not to come, he probably would. Told him he couldn't. "You
cannot come! We won't allow you to come with us!"
NICKY: Then he'll come. (Elias chuckles) Interesting!
Okay, you mentioned, I think it was last time, one of the times anyway,
about the fourth position of the pyramid, and I believe I didn't allow
you to expand on it. I think it was what you called the fourth position
on the pyramid, because I was asking you about the number four and what
it represented to me.
ELIAS: The four POINTS.
NICKY: That's it, points. What is that? I sit and
I think about it, and I think I don't know what that means!
ELIAS: The four points are Lawrence, Michael, Shynla, and Olivia.
NICKY: Okay, so when I'm seeing the number four, what I'm connecting
with is the involvement ...
ELIAS: Correct.
NICKY: ... with the shift.
ELIAS: Correct.
NICKY: Okay. Alright, Jenie babes! (I've got half
a mind to title this transcript "The Bobsey Twins!")
JENE: Okay, I asked something about the connection with
Rob from England. Is there a parallel or ... I mean, only from the
paragraph in the transcript did I pick up that there was a connection between
he and I, in the same behavior.
ELIAS: You are experiencing very similar issues.
JENE: Is there any deeper connection than that, or time
shared?
ELIAS: No.
JENE: No. Just a lot of the same issues.
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: Within these issues, which seem to be over this particular
lifetime anyway, having been chosen as the experience, do I also have the
availability of changing the probability? I mean, this sense of sadness
and isolation is like ... it's very tiring! It's like, "Get over
it!" You know, the short periods of time of joyfulness or zeal or
any expression within that feeling-tone, they don't last very long.
A tremendous wave of all of that emotion that doesn't even necessarily
have to stem from anything, or it appears not even to stem from anything.
There's nothing wrong in life. There's nothing wrong with today.
What is that encompassing sadness about?
ELIAS: The lack of acceptance of self, and also your own blocking
of your intent within your alignment, which you share very strongly in
similarity to this other individual. The intent has been expressed
to you, the family alignment has been expressed to you, and you distract
yourselves with focusing upon OTHER alignments which you view to be more
attractive and more easily accomplished. This individual would be
quite pleased were he to be aligned with Milumet, and displays action objectively
which may be considered imagery of that particular family, but this is
not the alignment that he holds.
JENE: And so which one would I prefer to be with?
ELIAS: Several!
JENE: Several. Which? Who? I distract
myself with ...?
ELIAS: You distract yourself with your own imagery, with viewing
a more attractive alignment with Zuli, with Vold, and at times with Ilda,
and at times with Borledim.
JENE: Okay, and which should I be doing?
ELIAS: Your alignment is Sumafi.
JENE: My alignment is Sumafi?!
NICKY: Holy shit! That's a whole new attitude!
JENE: Totally different. I don't even think in that
way.
ELIAS: Precisely.
NICKY: And there's the conflict!
JENE: I don't even THINK that way!
ELIAS: Precisely.
JENE: So there's where I'm supposed to be paying more attention?
ELIAS: As I have stated within this session, these two families
of Sumafi and Sumari are complementary to each other if allowed a flow,
but if blocking the intent of your alignment you may be creating of friction
and conflict. We have spoken this eve of the aspect of conflicting
area that you may view with these two families within your belief systems,
in a lack of understanding of how they are complementing of each other
and that they may be viewed objectively at times to be causing friction,
for one moves in the creative expression and is rebellious to boundaries
and the other is attentive to detail, which the Sumari view at times as
being restrictive, although it may be complementary in your creativity.
You may view throughout your focus that you have reversed your attention.
You focus your attention in objective expression of the Sumari, which is
the family that you are belonging to. In this you allow little attention
to the Sumafi, and you create this in the role of the UNDERLYING intent.
You have objectively reversed them within your attention. This creates
conflict. This creates a continuing conflict, for the focus strives
to be objectifying the intent of the alignment.
JENE: Then what happens to the intent of the family?
It just is?
ELIAS: Correct. It is a natural flow.
JENE: Oh. Very interesting!
VICKI: Could I ask a question here? Wouldn't what Jene does
for a living be ...
JENE: That's Zuli.
VICKI: ... indicative of an attention to detail within the intent
of the Sumafi? (Jene does body make-up in the film industry)
ELIAS: Partially, which....
JENE: Partially. It's also connected with Zuli, isn't
it?
ELIAS: This be your distraction!
NICKY: Ah!
JENE: Wait a minute! That be my distraction?
Is not the Zuli attention to body, to perfection? That's what I do
within the creation of attention to detail within the career.
ELIAS: But this is not your creation. It is your EXPRESSION
of creativity.
JENE: But....
ELIAS: You may view within your focus now how you have reversed
the objectification of these intents. The creativity is the natural
flow throughout the focus, one that needs little attention, for it shall
present itself naturally without your attention. The attention to
detail and perfectionism is the intent of the alignment. You have
always held both, but your attention magnates more to the objectification
of the creativity, the expression of the creativity.
JENE: 'Cause it's so simple. It just is.
NICKY: It's just natural to you.
JENE: It's natural.
NICKY: Yeah, right.
JENE: But....
VICKI: It doesn't seem to me like you would be very good at what
you do if you weren't paying attention to detail.
JENE: Yeah, I HAVE to pay attention to detail. You
can't see it on the screen.
ELIAS: Correct, which also is an element of your intent.
Therefore, it is being expressed, but your attention moves more in the
direction of the Sumari. Therefore, you are expressing the intent
of the alignment in part, but you are also blocking of the intent in a
lack of acknowledgment and a distraction of your attention with OTHER intents.
JENE: Is the Sumafi alignment also a part of the numerology?
'Cause that is detailed as well.
ELIAS: No. This would be in alignment with Sumari.
NICKY: Yes! I knew numbers had to fit in there somewhere!
JENE: I know that they fit in there, but it's very important
...
ELIAS: This is an expression....
JENE: ... to me for the communication from essence or from
consciousness to be clearly transmitted to the person I'm speaking to.
NICKY: And that's Sumafi.
JENE: And that's Sumafi! There's not to be any distortion.
If I were sitting talking to you ... just like I told somebody one day
at work. They wanted me to do a chart. I said, "I can lie to
you all day long in the movie business. That's what the business
is about. I can tell you you're a nice person and I like you, blah
blah blah. This may not be true. This may be a part of what
is within this structure of this belief system within this business.
But when we sit down to do THIS, this I will not distort."
ELIAS: Correct, but the tool is in alignment with Sumari.
JENE: Okay. Well, that I sort of knew. But I
thought the detail in the information had to do with Sumafi.
ELIAS: This be your pull to the attention to detail.
JENE: So this might even be a little bit of a clue about
what I should be doing? (We all crack up) A trick!
ELIAS: Not very efficient!
JENE: Not very efficient, 'cause I'm not going to get an
answer!
ELIAS: Ah! We shall create an organization with Rudy and
Cindel: The 500 Club!
JENE: The 500 Club! Well, I will keep asking until
I get....
NICKY: But now with this other line of thought in perspective,
it's going to come to you a lot easier.
JENE: Good! This is very good. Okay, another
question. (Sighing) Is this non-acceptance of self -- I'll
start it out right away -- the belief system held with lack of worth that....
(Elias is nodding) You're answering me 'cause you know what I'm thinking.
ELIAS: Continue!
JENE: With the business -- creation of the business, bringing
it into manifestation/physical form, and ending up with the bill!
Do you know what I'm saying? The store in Kansas -- conflict with
this counterpart action that has been discontinued. All of this confusion
over something that was so simply put together! I know that I have
belief systems dealing with alcoholism, alright? But within the aspect
of just dealing with what is, which is the division of what has been created,
I set it up. Now, why do I end up with the bill?
ELIAS: This also is an area of the lack of acceptance of self.
You present yourself what you inwardly view that you deserve.
JENE: The bill??
ELIAS: Any element that you view as negative.
JENE: Any element that I view as negative?
NICKY: Is this similar to the answer you gave in a recent script
we just got, where you said it was a Sumari thing? There's like unworthiness,
and we look to a failure rather than success because we're more fearful
of success?
ELIAS: No. This is a misinterpretation. You ALL hold
elements of this within the belief systems of duplicity. Therefore,
you ALL hold a certain amount of issue with this belief system. Some
individuals hold greater issue in this area than other individuals.
You create belief systems around the belief system that you hold, and you
attach reasonings as explanations to yourselves -- which are additional
belief systems -- that your environment or your experiences throughout
your focus have caused this feeling of inadequacy or lack of acceptance
or of lack of self-worth. They are all elements of a lack of acceptance
of self and the issue of duplicity. (Both Jene and Nicky sigh)
This particular issue, I may express to you all, be one of your MOST
difficult issues within physical focus.
JENE: It sure is expensive!
ELIAS: In more areas than one!
JENE: Absolutely! I'm getting really tired of initiating
businesses, let me tell you! Question: Why is my house turning
yellow inside? I am painting. I know you know. It's not
yellow-yellow, but you know, mustard-yellow. Now I have one whole
room and one full wall that had to be yellow!
ELIAS: Another partial distraction, but also an offering to yourself
of imagery. The distraction is that you may allow yourself to move
into areas of distracting yourself with the Vold family, but the imagery
that you are presenting yourself is of the tone of this color, which is
indicative of emotion.
JENE: Well, that I know I'm dealing with, but I'm not feeling
a tremendous amount of emotion.
ELIAS: Therefore, you display imagery.
JENE: I display the imagery. Because I'm very mental
now, a little more so than emotional for a change. So I'm displaying
it in the tone, in the color?
ELIAS: Correct.
NICKY: Okay, what happened last night? What was going on?
I was watching TV and the next thing I was feeling was overwhelmingly tired.
I immediately made a connection with Mary.
JENE: I went to sleep.
NICKY: Yeah, and that's what I did! I slept, I woke up,
I went back to sleep, I woke up, I went back to sleep, and the next thing
I knew it was seven o'clock in the morning. But I remember as I was
passing out, so to speak, a connection with Mary, and then that's all I
ever really got. All I was thinking about was, I'm so tired I can't
move.
ELIAS: This also is an empathic reception.
NICKY: Okay. Was it with Mary?
ELIAS: Correct; for within your belief systems, many individuals
move into objective expressions when they are feeling distress, that their
"method" is to be escaping this through sleep state.
NICKY: There's his favorite word! (Meaning "method")
JENE: What was that again? I missed that. I'm
sorry.
ELIAS: Their escape shall be within their sleep state. Therefore,
in an attempt to be moving away from distressed feelings, they engage dream
state.
JENE: So we can have everything.
NICKY: Okay. Now, is this a state that should not be?
ELIAS: No.
NICKY: It's okay, isn't it? I mean, I know everything's
okay, but you know what I'm saying, the perception of it. 'Cause
right away I would want to go on about all this sleep! But yet, it's
so good. It feels so good!
ELIAS: It is an opportunity to be connecting with subjective information.
NICKY: Okay, that's what I thought. That was the other thing,
I must say, now that you bring it up. That was the other thing I
thought: "Subjectively, something is transpiring." So it was
empathically connected to Mary this time.
ELIAS: Correct.
NICKY: Okay. I have a tendency to go there all the time,
the empathic thing. I do seem to pick up in that arena. Is
that part of who I am, so to speak? You know what I'm saying.
ELIAS: No. It is a part of someone else! (We all crack
up)
NICKY: You know what I'm saying! I mean, am I off on another....
ELIAS: It is literally part of someone else! (Grinning widely)
NICKY: Yeah, you're right! You're right, it is! (Elias
chuckles) It seems I go there a lot. I mean, is this part of intent?
ELIAS: It is a natural ability, an inner sense that you all hold,
although some individuals develop this inner sense more than other individuals.
NICKY: Okay. So now there again, when it becomes disturbing
to me or aggravating or like I've had enough of it, I can at that time
make it my choice to say, "This is it. I'm not doing it any more."
ELIAS: Correct. You also allow yourself this ability within
this counterpart action. Michael does not allow himself to engage
this action as much, although he DOES engage this action at times, although
he is denying of this within himself and expressing that he does NOT engage
this action! But in this, within this counterpart action that you
hold, you allow the experience more.
NICKY: Okay, alright. Yeah, I understand.
ELIAS: But this also is your choice. If you are choosing
not to be engaging this inner sense, it is available to you to disengage
this.
JENE: Back when I first came, you imparted information that
I have lots of battles. "Rudy has lots of battles." Are those
battles -- I can pretty much answer that -- belief systems? And within
those belief systems -- this is a long question -- within these belief
systems, say as they're recognized in simultaneous time, the action of
changing the probability within that, is that more efficient now than it
was then? Or is that still a pretty strongly closed system?
ELIAS: Your battles stem from belief systems, a lack of acceptance
of self, and a refusal to be holding your attention within the now.
You are projecting futurely and pastly VERY much!
JENE: Futurely I knew I was doing, but pastly I wasn't aware
of.
ELIAS: You create this situation for yourself much of your time,
where you are occupying your attention within past areas or future areas
and therefore NOT allowing your attention within the now, and this is creating
of battles also. It also blocks information that you may offer to
yourself. (Pause)
JENE: Okay. I thought I noticed in Jamaica, or I heard
or listened or whatever ... I wasn't quite so rebellious at a particular
moment. A battle or a situation brought itself to a head. There
were three choices. Normally my action would be that of the strongest
action, which would have been to leave, and that's what I started to do.
I thought I saw the probabilities all take form at the same time within
the now, and altered the probability at that time by choosing an alternate
probability.
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: That's what happened?
ELIAS: Correct; and within the now, you may view your choices
more clearly.
JENE: Which is what happened.
ELIAS: But in anticipation of future or allowing influence of
past, you also cloud your clarity in your choices of probabilities within
the now.
JENE: Okay. Got it. So, yes. At one time,
that was not a strong probability. It is becoming more accessible.
Okay, I'll work with that. And many thanks for all the help in Jamaica,
by the way! It was quite obvious! (Pause)
ELIAS: Are you wishing of more questions?
JENE: Well, the only thing I want to know is ... I want
to know two things: I have an issue with my table, with a young man by
the name of Joe. I don't understand what the obstruction is.
He has the brain to my table and refuses to bring it back, the table being
objective imagery of a healing. I don't know any conflict between
he and I that took place. There was nothing that took place, but
something is creating this lack of being able to get my hands back on the
brain to my table. He refuses to bring it back. I don't know
if he's sold it, or if he's just being stubborn, or if he's lazy.
I haven't a clue as to what might be affecting this inner exchange.
ELIAS: Hmm. This also would be imagery of another issue
that you hold, in a belief system of allowing another individual your power.
JENE: Okay. I don't get that, but okay....
ELIAS: Giving over your power to another individual and them having
the ability to hold your energy or your power, which is a belief system.
Another individual may not hold your energy. You do not "give over"
your energy to another individual. Another individual does not hold
your power, but you hold belief systems in this area and you are imaging
them objectively. You are offering yourself the opportunity, in creating
objective imagery, to view many of the belief systems that you hold that
you have been unaware of. Therefore, you are creating what you may
think of as unusual events.
JENE: Okay. Will this be resolved? I want this
thing back for my table. Do I need to go to court?
ELIAS: This be your choice also! (Laughter)
JENE: The other one was with this issue with the store in
Kansas. I know this is a choice situation too, but also the imagery
of the counterpart of Dennis in Kansas is creating a draw not to finalize
this relationship. I know that's what all this hocus-pocus is about
with that store. He does not want to discontinue the relationship
in the counterpart action, even though we have basically chosen other directions
at this particular point. (Sighing) Do I go or do I not?
ELIAS: And what do you feel?
JENE: Well, I don't want to play these power-struggle games
with him, and that's basically what this is, a power-struggle game over
this issue of the store. Now he's got himself in trouble with the
state in this whole thing.
ELIAS: And within your objective awareness, what do you WANT?
JENE: I'd like it to be over!
ELIAS: And in this, within the present now, is your answer.
You have offered it to yourself.
JENE: So therefore, I should disengage with the pursuant
of the lawsuit?
ELIAS: You have been engaged in this conflict for much time.
JENE: Much time!
ELIAS: And are your choosing to continue in this same conflict
for much more time?
JENE: So the decision is, what is more important?
The issue of the money and the fairness involved in this creation....
ELIAS: Within your belief systems.
JENE: Within the belief systems. Or, the disengagement
and just let it all go?
ELIAS: And your own peace.
NICKY: Yeah, really!
JENE: (Sighing) Here we go again! Okay.
(Pause) That answers that, I think. Alright, I have a question.
In terms of this forum, I don't know if I have
anything else to add to this forum other than what I do on my own, which
is to support it completely, which you know, and send others, and lend
energy, and whatever else I can do. I'd like to know if there's anything
else.
ELIAS: This forum is presented for you, not for you to present.
(Pause) There is no requirement for this information. It is
offered to you. (Staring at Jene) And as you hold an inspiration
within any moment, that be what you may create and act upon, but these
are YOUR choices; what speaks to you and what your desire moves you within.
As for myself, I require nothing from you. (Smiling)
JENE: Okay.
NICKY: Very interesting! Does this have to do -- what you're
just saying -- does this have to do with this analogy that I hold in my
mind every once in a while? This is not for anybody out there who's
reading ... you don't have to be doing something. You don't have
to have that star on your forehead in order to be here.
ELIAS: Correct. If an individual is motivated within their
own desires to be creating of any element in conjunction with this forum,
this would be their choice and I am encouraging of their action, but it
is not required.
NICKY: Okay. I have just one question that keeps floating
through my mind. Periodically, I will get an overwhelming feeling
that someone has the strongest desire to be disengaging. I look to
myself generally speaking first, and I remember a time period just two,
three, four years ago of saying, "No, I choose to live here in this objective
reality for a while." So I don't question myself anymore. Now
I'm wondering, is there another focus or whatever it would be that....
ELIAS: Counterpart action.
NICKY: Right, yeah! Do I KNOW this person?
ELIAS: Quite.
NICKY: Oh my god! I don't suppose I can ask you who and
you'll tell me?
ELIAS: Michael.
NICKY: Are you ... wait a minute now! I'm involved with
two Michaels. Michael/Mary or Michael/Michael? Michael/Mary?
ELIAS: Correct.
NICKY: Oh my god! (Whispering) I could almost cry.
ELIAS: This be a very strong choice element within Michael, and
has been an issue for a time framework, and continues to be an issue.
NICKY: Yeah, 'cause when I feel it, I feel it! It's strong!
JENE: Is that the same for me when I feel that really strong
too, that I want to disengage?
ELIAS: This would be partially, and also partially within your
own issue of lack of acceptance of self.
JENE: But it gets stronger! I mean, it's getting....
ELIAS: Michael has emitted very strong energy in this area recently.
NICKY: Oh, definitely!
JENE: Okay, because it is recent.
NICKY: Yeah! 'Cause it's like, I actually stand up sometimes
and say, "Oh, no! I don't care who you are! You're not going
anywhere yet, not if I have to go with you, 'cause I'm not going!"
JENE: In the disengagement, yeah!
NICKY: Really! Not yet!
JENE: Okay, I'm wondering how to connect to zeal; joyfulness.
It's a terminology that you use quite often in reference to a lot of people;
everyone, actually. It's probably the base root of the things that
we need most of all to learn or to remember; joyfulness. I cannot
remember really a time that I felt too joyful, but I'm sure there was one.
This aspect, is this not information that is imparted to Michael subjectively?
ELIAS: Michael holds the information subjectively and objectively.
He also holds a very strong issue in the same area as yourself, in a battling
with a lack of acceptance of self.
JENE: What did we do that's so damn obnoxious that we cannot
accept self?
ELIAS: You express to ME! (Laughter)
NICKY: (Laughing) You tell me, baby!
JENE: I mean, I don't know! I mean, it was constant, since
the beginning of this time frame, with parental abuse, within their own
ignorance. Not that it would be intentional, I realize at this time,
but at THAT time, to a wee one, they were gods! They were the last
word! So you had no value, according to their unfortunate terminology
at the time, of their own frustration and their own angers. But it
was taken very obviously literally, to the core, and I'm sure it has dimensional
aspects connected to it...
ELIAS: This be elements of your belief systems. You hold
mass belief systems in the area of psychology that suggest to you that
other individuals are creating of your reality and are more influencing
than in actuality they are, but you hold these belief systems very strongly.
Therefore, they ARE very influencing.
NICKY: Okay, I've got a question pertaining to mass belief systems.
JENE: (To Elias) Are you getting really tired?
ELIAS: I do not become tired! (Laughter)
JENE: Is Mary becoming very tired?
ELIAS: Michael is experiencing, not within his objective awareness,
but a physical affectingness within body consciousness.
JENE: Will you let us know when it's time to....
ELIAS: He holds no objective awareness of this within this present
moment. (Kind of a funny side-note -- I can hear myself snoring quite
loudly here)
NICKY: Okay. It appears as though when you're recognizing
a belief that you have that you're holding onto and you're looking at it
from different viewpoints, those times come when you're saying, "Well,
this is a mass belief system!" It almost seems like, "Oh my god!
This is too overwhelming for me to get through!" That's another belief
system? Or is it really the thickness of time that we have to work
through because of whatever?
ELIAS: There is an element of the thickness of time framework,
yes. Mass belief systems are difficult to be accepting. Many
mass belief systems you do not hold an objective awareness that you align
with, but as you allow yourself more of your own awareness and acceptance
of yourself, you shall also open your windows to yourself to be identifying
of mass belief systems that you align with also.
NICKY: Okay. I can't think of anything else. I probably
could go and on, but I don't have that push to do so.
JENE: I haven't even gone to Ashley, my grandniece, as to
what family she is aligned with -- she's either going to be a dinosaur
or astronaut! -- or what relationships within different focuses we've shared.
ELIAS: Attempt to be investigating! (Laughter) It
is a challenge!
JENE: I just want to know! (Laughter) I know
we have shared. Obviously we have shared. It's obvious when
we're together that we have shared many time frames together. Some
of them I touch base with, dinosaurs and things like that, and we like
to play a lot of the same ... and I know she has an element of Sumari as
well.
NICKY: Is she of the Gramada family?
ELIAS: No. Make a game! (Grinning)
JENE: No! I hate games. I hate them!
ELIAS: Ah! But the Sumari are so naturally playful!
JENE: They are?? I thought we were like somber.
Forget playful!
ELIAS: Another blocking of intent!
NICKY: Aha! Interesting!
JENE: Okay. She's just like ... there's Sumari there,
but the alignment I don't get. I don't get the alignment with her.
Question: In probabilities, is she going to choose to come and live
with me at ten? 'Cause she has made the statement, just dropped a
little seed in consciousness, that this is a probability.
ELIAS: It is a probability, but it is not a most probable probability.
It is quite less probable.
JENE: Is there a stronger probability she'll stay where
she is?
ELIAS: Correct.
NICKY: Why was Gramada so predominant last night, or yesterday
afternoon? I mean, that's why I went to Ashley, I think. I
thought, "Oh, wait a minute. Maybe she's Gramada."
ELIAS: You are connecting with probabilities that are suggestive
of the Gramada intent; initiators.
NICKY: You mean I'm toying with the idea of initiating something?
ELIAS: No. You are connecting with probabilities that have
been set into motion that shall be initiating of new elements.
JENE: Earlier, I gave an explanation to Nicky, Candace,
of my interpretation of essence tone within the dolphin, within their sonar,
when they're communicating beneath the water. Was that a true statement,
as I know it? (Pause)
ELIAS: It is an interpretation.
JENE: An interpretation. Is it close?
ELIAS: It is an objective interpretation. Therefore, as
to essence tone it bears little resemblance, although within an objective
interpretation that you may understand, it is acceptable.
JENE: Okay. One more question. In that game
that I do not like: Sumari, astrological signs....
ELIAS: (Grinning) I am so VERY fond of our game! (Laughter)
JENE: I know you are! I hate games. I hate them!
I just feel so inadequate in that area! Non-acceptance of self.
ELIAS: Quite!
JENE: Sumari, astrological signs, Gemini, Libra and Aquarius.
ELIAS: Choose one.
JENE: Gemini.
ELIAS: Correct.
JENE: Oh, okay! Thank you. I have been working!
ELIAS: (To Vic) Shall you be clinking?
JENE: Clinking?
NICKY: Clinking? Is that a new word? (Vic tosses a
penny into the bowl)
ELIAS: Very good! (Grinning) Very well. We shall
disengage this evening.
JENE: It was nice seeing you, and thank you for all your
help.
ELIAS: I extend to you both, to you all, much affection, and our
invitation is standing.
JENE: Thank you.
ELIAS: You are welcome. To you this evening I extend much
love, and express adieu.
Elias departs at 7:20 PM.
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