Wednesday, November 5, 1997 (Private)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Vicki (Lawrence), and Jim (Yarr).
Vic's note: The beginning of this session is yet another "lecture" about the inadvisability of concentrating too much on other focuses. Elias has repeated himself quite a few times now in cautioning in this area, which is rare. This must be a pretty big deal, eh?
Elias arrives at 2:36 PM. (Time was eighteen seconds)

ELIAS: Good afternoon. (Smiling)

JIM: Good afternoon. Nice to be with you, and thank you. I'm going to start off with a couple of areas. Maklaka, that name that I came up with, is that from the past Incan focus?

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: So in interpreting this, basically I've connected with a past physical focus and a future physical focus objectively?

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: I haven't seemed to connect it as far as gaining information or communicating with these two focuses. What could I possibly do? I know we've discussed it a little bit, but is there anything specifically that I could be doing to be more aware in connecting with these focuses?

ELIAS: Merely be accepting of their interaction with you and allow whatever information is provided, as they see fit to offer you information. I have been expressing to individuals recently, in regard to connecting with other physical focuses that you hold, you shall be provided information as it is necessitated. Merely the connection is enough. The awareness of another focus is enough. It is unnecessary for you to hold objective awareness of every aspect of another focus and what they are accomplishing or doing. Merely the connection is enough to provide yourself with information of the expandedness of essence and that you are more than you believe yourselves to be within this particular focus. Individuals recently within this forum are concentrating too intensely upon other focuses. This also: Creating this action lends energy to the rest of you to be moving in this direction also, which I have expressed is unnecessary and may at times be intrusive. Future focuses shall be offering you information that is beneficial to you and that you may assimilate. You hold more awarenesses of what you view to be past focuses. Although they are not past within your perception of your linear history, they are placed in the position of being past. Therefore, they do not hold the same objective awareness that you hold. They do not hold the same information that you hold. In this, your objective may be merely to be connecting and recognizing that they exist, not necessarily interfering with the other focus; for each time that you are interacting with another focus, you are also altering of their focus, for you hold more information than do they.

JIM: Okay. I've found in the early morning, when I write in my journal, I'll start writing and then pronouns will change and context will change, and sometimes within three pages it may change two or three times. This is receiving of subjective information?

ELIAS: Correct; an allowance for opening, for subjective information to yourself.

JIM: So this is a good "method," so to speak, for me? To be connecting and waking up at four o' clock in the morning for no apparent reason but to write, or feeling something?

ELIAS: And be connecting with yourself! (Grinning)

JIM: And totally go with that? (Elias nods) Okay, that's what I thought. Mary and I talked about this a little bit the other day. Otha has been on my mind.... (Here, Elias starts coughing, which has been happening quite a bit during Mary's illness)

ELIAS: I shall be requesting of.... (Coughing again, and Jim hands him a glass of water, which he drinks quite a bit of) Hmmm. Continuing within a very weakened condition.

JIM: If this is too hard ... I don't wish to be intrusive!

ELIAS: I shall express to you an ending point if it is becoming intrusive. The physical body consciousness is merely weakened.

Vic's note: I must admit that were it left up to me and my belief systems, we would not have been holding sessions while Mary was ill.

JIM: Otha, Otha, Otha has been running through my mind at many times. In relating to that essence and its alignment with the exchangers, is that a validation or an acknowledgment of exchanging of my ideas and concepts? (Elias is still coughing a bit)

ELIAS: It is a validation to you from this essence of Otha, within your attempt to be moving into expanded areas and offering information to more individuals. (Still coughing a bit)

JIM: Okay. In that, in offering information and helpfulness to other individuals: Individuals that I've touched or have been with have expressed that when I offer energy, a chill runs through their entire body. How can I interpret that? As an acceptance of energy, or a turning on of....

ELIAS: As a connection of a recognition of the information and its ringing. (ringing true)

JIM: Okay. The woman I worked with the other day that had the wrist injury: I worked with her arm, and when I felt her shoulder, I felt a dispersement of energy. Then I went down to her hands, and she said her hands also started tingling. She said, "What's that all about?" I said, "Well, there's a connection of energy here." Then I asked her, "How is your wrist?" She said, "It doesn't hurt and it hasn't hurt for quite some time."

ELIAS: This would be an offering of your energy merged with the individual and their acceptance of energy, and in this allowing their own energy to activate itself in certain areas.

JIM: Okay. In talking about body consciousness and energy and self-healing, do we merely just think the process of gathering energy? I know you don't gather energy, but being energy ... a self-healer doesn't have somebody else there saying, "Here's energy." So within self, you just feel energy about you and move physical ailments and injuries through you within your own expression of energy?

ELIAS: You are merely rearranging your energy patterns and allowing yourself to be creating a flowing or a movement in areas that you may be holding and blocking.

JIM: Okay. That being the same within another person as well?

ELIAS: Correct. They are the individual that shall be moving the energy. You are merely assisting in reminding their energy -- the actual cells within their physical form -- of their natural state, but it is the choice of the individual to be accepting or not of your helpfulness and your reminder.

JIM: Okay. Within aging, within body consciousness, is that a body consciousness belief within the cellular structure of our body, aging?

ELIAS: No.

JIM: Or is that held with a belief?

ELIAS: Correct. It is not a belief held within your cellular structure. Your cells, your physical body receives instruction from your subjective awareness. Therefore, your physical body does not hold belief systems. It merely responds to the subjective instruction, and within this there are belief systems held.

JIM: Because of objective belief?

ELIAS: You think to yourselves that you merely hold belief systems objectively. You hold belief systems within this physical dimension, and your subjective and objective awarenesses work in harmony. Therefore, although you may hold the ability to move around belief systems at times subjectively, you continue to hold belief systems subjectively equally as you do objectively. In this, you are you. The belief systems that you hold, you hold objectively and subjectively within the focus, and in this you hold belief systems that you shall age and you shall disengage within a certain time framework. The body consciousness does not hold these belief systems. It merely responds to the subjective communication which directs it, and it is in full cooperation too.

JIM: Okay, so that would follow the same with illness?

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: In session #188, you had expressed to Drew on dealing with it subjectively and objectively: "... to be merely not concentrating on this. You may be examining and holding your concentration in this action to be helpful ..." Can you elaborate on this? To move into subjective in acceptance of your belief system within a subjective awareness? Or is it merely trusting of self, and you're asking of self that this shall evolve?

ELIAS: Trusting and accepting of yourself are key points. If you are not trusting of yourself, you shall not be allowing yourself to be moving into areas of acceptance. I have expressed that you may be creating changes in your belief systems that shall be moving you closer to the area of acceptance of your belief systems. Each tiny step that you take in allowing yourself to not be so very affected by each belief system moves you closer into the area of acceptance of a belief system. Therefore, as you initially identify a belief system, then you may examine the belief system and offer yourself an alteration initially of the belief system, moving it slightly to the side, just slightly to your periphery. In this, you continue to hold the belief system, but you have altered it slightly. Therefore, it loses an element of its power with you, and as you continue to move and not allow its affectingness so greatly, it becomes easier for this belief system to not be so very important any longer, and in this it becomes easier and more effortless for you to be accepting of the belief system.

JIM: And accepting that it IS a belief system.

ELIAS: Absolutely; and be remembering, you are not eliminating the belief system. For the duration that you occupy physical focus within this dimension, you shall hold belief systems. You shall merely learn to neutralize their hold upon you.

JIM: Okay. The table-tip exercise that we had done a number of months ago: We haven't talked about it too much, but the area that I seemed to merge in during that exercise, of different states of consciousness, was that a mergence in Regional Area 2? What went on there?? Something really occurred, a real shift for me.

ELIAS: This would not be necessarily an entering into objectively the area of Regional Area 2, but you have offered yourself a profound example of the expandedness of your reality and how you hold your attention so very strongly in a singularity, and that if you are allowing yourself the opening to your periphery, you may view much more of your reality that exists within your objective awareness. You need not be exploring all other areas of consciousness! You are within physical focus. You have created an objective awareness. You merely do not allow yourself all of the wonders that you may be connecting with within your objective awareness.

Recently, I have offered an exercise in creating an inner landscape; stepping sideways very slightly within your objective awareness; not being within a meditative state, not placing yourself in what you term to be an altered state, but within complete objective awareness waking state, you may be creating of an inner landscape by objectively creating yourself to be very tiny and entering into yourself and allowing an inner landscape to appear. This be another area of creating WITHIN your objective awareness. You hold the ability to access many wondrous elements of your physical focus objectively. You merely believe that you must be placing yourselves within an altered state to be accessing these other elements of your reality. It is unnecessary. You hold the ability to be viewing many creative elements completely objectively.

JIM: I've witnessed that with helpfulness to people, that there's really no real shift ... well, there's a little bit of a shift, but it's effortless. It's not a conscious meditation, or that I have to breathe a certain way or something.

ELIAS: This is opening to your periphery.

JIM: Okay, cool ... finally! (Elias chuckles) The lesion on my dog that he's going after on his foot, we've been working on this for a month or so. Can you give me some insight as to where I'm blocking or doing something that may be blocking any energy or helpfulness, or is it more of his choice to continue?

ELIAS: You are concentrating too much. You are lending energy to the continuation by concentrating and adding energy to the creature's energy of the creation, therefore perpetuating this.

JIM: Okay. So within that, not even really offering energy and allowing him to create his own reality with it?

ELIAS: Acceptance. (Said softly, yet intently)

JIM: Acceptance of what he expresses?

ELIAS: Correct. Each time that you face yourself with this type of situation, Yarr, look to yourself and examine the belief systems that hold your concentration in this area. (Staring at Jim)

JIM: Hmm. Okay. I can see where they are with that.

ELIAS: This shall be helpful to you futurely in allowing you to move into a more efficient area of acceptance and lack of expectation, for you shall be confronting the belief system that is lending to your continued concentration upon these situations.

JIM: Okay, because there is a definite ... with the creature, and I guess even more so with animals than with humans, there does seem to be somewhat more of an expectation, and since I've seen this condition so many times in my past, in clinics and surgeries done and all the stuff that I've seen, I have to begin to let go and....

ELIAS: And address to those belief systems that you have built.

JIM: Okay. Borloh has expressed for quite some time a tiredness in the afternoon that seems to come on. I don't feel anything physically, but I know something physiologically is going on. Is that an energy pattern?

ELIAS: It is the subjective awareness expressing to the body consciousness, which in turn is attempting to express to the individual objectively to be paying attention. There is a tendency to be incorporating cultural time to excess, and in this the body consciousness, as instructed by subjective awareness, is expressing to the objective awareness to be incorporating more natural time. It is unnecessary for individuals to be viewing their time framework as needing to be completely productive, in their terms, at every moment, within certain structured time frameworks. This allows for a lack of creativity, a lack of spontaneity, and boxing yourself into time frameworks. This shall be expressed within energy. Within the confines of your belief systems you recognize an energy drain, for this shall gain your attention and shall be speaking to you, expressing that you need be incorporating natural time and creativity; a flow, as opposed to a pushing. (Pause)

VICKI: Can I ask a question here?

ELIAS: You may.

VICKI: I've had this experience also recently, of becoming tired in the daytime to the point where I really want to go to sleep, and so normally I go to sleep for a little while, and that seems to work just fine for me. My question is, based on what you just said, am I creating that feeling of tiredness because I'm following this cultural time too much?

ELIAS: Correct. This you shall be noticing of. Many individuals presently are experiencing this same action, not merely yourselves. Many individuals are creating this same action and holding this feeling of fatigue within the midpoints of your accepted day, midpoint not necessarily meaning noon; but within your accepted time frame of your day, you shall be experiencing this element of fatigue, as are very many other individuals also, for you are all creating this wave to offer yourselves an awareness of natural and cultural time. As you are responding, this be one element in acknowledgment; but the action continues, for you are not altering your time framework.

You believe within your belief systems that you must follow cultural time. You hold great belief systems in this area. You must arise at dawn. You must be accomplishing your work for your day within a certain time framework and you must diligently be continuing in this until you have accomplished, and THEN you may allow yourself your natural time AFTER you have accomplished your productivity within your cultural time.

I have expressed to you previously, many issues, many belief systems shall be brought to the forefront to be addressed within the action of this shift. You hold belief systems that within certain hours of your day, you hold a greater ability for productivity. Therefore, you respond to this cultural time and do not allow spontaneity, for you believe that within other time periods of your day you may not function quite as well. You believe you sleep at night and you work within the day. You believe that you rise and you work within the initial portion of the day, and you allow for spontaneity within your evening. These are all belief systems, as much so as your belief systems concerning how many hours you must be sleeping.

VICKI: Is it reinforcing the belief system to go ahead and go to sleep during those times?

ELIAS: No. This, as I have stated, is a partial acknowledgment. It is not altering of your response to cultural time, therefore it continues and nags at you; but it is not lending energy to the belief system, for you are responding.

VICKI: So the thing to do is to be recognizing the imagery and what it stands for, as far as the belief system is involved?

ELIAS: Correct. (Pause)

JIM: We spoke of this quite some time ago. Within herbal/plant energy -- plants we have created to assist ourselves in what we believe to be healing and realizing that it is us that heals ourselves within physical focus -- is the plant somewhat acting as part of an exchange with us in offering its energy, but it is our choice in allowing that plant to be affecting or allowing our choice to heal ourselves, whether it be the plant or not?

ELIAS: Some of the vegetation that you have created in this dimension may be very effective and affecting, but be remembering, these are all elements of you also. This be the reason why they are affecting, for they are not separate from you. They are a part of you. They are merely other elements of yourself.

JIM: So with all the different modalities of healing -- allopathic, homeopathic, herbal -- it all comes down to one thing: What you believe is what you perceive, and that's what will incorporate your healing.

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: And if you believe that you heal yourself without any assistance of medication, surgery, etc. etc., that is how you heal.

ELIAS: Correct, although all other elements may be quite affecting, for they are falling within your belief systems. In this, whatever you choose to believe to be healing of you shall be.

JIM: In mass, that holds the energy, that belief.

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: Okay. I'm understanding this pretty well, I think! (Elias and Jim both laugh) I'm feeling much more comfortable than a few years ago, or allowing myself to....

ELIAS: (Humorously) Ah! Progressing! One point! (Laughter)

JIM: Thank you! I haven't gotten a point in a long time! Cool!

ELIAS: This is quite encouraging, to be viewing individuals moving and progressing within this information and not distorting this information!!

JIM: Good! Thank you! In the past, you have given a number of exercises that you have expressed will be tremendously helpful, as the exercise in clarity and some others. Could you briefly run through ... I want to look some of those up again and be clear on them and get back to them. Could you....

ELIAS: Ah! Michael and Lawrence hold this information and have been connecting with these exercises recently, have you not?

VICKI: Yeah. I am presently working on putting the exercises together into one volume. (Guess I better finish this)

JIM: Good. Okay, I'll wait. I'll participate in that too.

ELIAS: We are accomplishing efficiency! (Grinning)

VICKI: Kind of! (Guess I really better finish this!)

ELIAS: We shall break, and you may continue with your questioning.

BREAK 3:16 PM RESUME 3:38 PM (Time was five seconds)

ELIAS: Continuing.

JIM: (To Vic) Why don't you go ahead and ask your question?

VICKI: The only question I have is ... you've mentioned several times now that Mary's body consciousness is in a weakened condition. My question is, is the subjective self directing that?

ELIAS: Yes. Michael is in within a transitional period and is viewing choices and evaluating and continuing to be directing ... as a window.

VICKI: I kind of get that.

ELIAS: No door ... a window! (Grinning)

JIM: So within illness, is it always a subjective intervention, so to speak? Something subjectively that we're being moved into, being made aware of?

ELIAS: Not necessarily. You may be affecting the body consciousness by removing the subjective awareness and direction. This also shall be affecting of the body consciousness, for it is not receiving instruction any longer.

JIM: That would be widening your area of separation, of objective self from self?

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: So a lot of people that incorporate cancer, an eating away of the body, so to speak, but then they....

ELIAS: This would be a subjective direction.

JIM: That would be a subjective direction.

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: Cancer is a subjective direction.

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: It seems like a lot of people improve their relationships or move through major issues in their lives that they've been holding back on or stifling, and that's within a cooperation to move ...

ELIAS: Correct.

JIM: ... forward within a direction?

ELIAS: Correct. Within of area of disease, these are subjective directions; but you may be creating of conditions within your physical form within the action of removal of the subjective direction. This would not be the same as a disease.

JIM: With the recent fluctuation of my shoulder/back/foot scenario ... (Elias grins and Jim laughs, as this is a continuing issue) ... it seems to be bouncing around. The shoulder is pretty much alleviated a good portion of the time. The foot ailment, which I feel is connected to my lower back, comes and goes, and my lower back ... a number of weeks ago having the discomfort and then believing that I recognized the issues, that I was blocking my creativity, and then that dissipating but still being there, is that the issue that I'm dealing with mainly, with that blockage?

ELIAS: Mainly.

JIM: And expressing my creativity, as in writing or painting....

ELIAS: Correct. I shall also offer you a suggestion ...

JIM: Wonderful! (Jim scoots forward on the couch in anticipation, as he's been asking questions about this for some time now)

ELIAS: ... purely within your physical focus. You may consider investing in ... a new bed! (Jim and I both lose it)

JIM: I've thought that about that one! (We're both cracking up) This would be helpful to Borloh as well??

ELIAS: Correct. Quite practical! This would be the cosmic answer! (Grinning widely, and obviously quite amused with himself!)

JIM: Good! Those are the best kind! (Elias laughs) Oh lordy! Sometimes it's so simple, isn't it?

ELIAS: Be also sure that you are facing north! (We lose it again)

JIM: See there, I've done it again! We face south!

ELIAS: Ah! This be the crux of the matter -- facing south! Backwards! West is nice also. (Elias is cracking himself up now)

JIM: We really like to make things complicated, don't we! (Much laughter, and a pause) In closing, what belief systems may I look at in addressing and allowing my widening in awareness within my intent of Sumafi/Tumold? Or do I need to even concern myself with that, and just move along spontaneously?

ELIAS: Spontaneity is very good! You shall present yourself with the belief systems that need be addressed to as you are ready.

JIM: Just accept that, and accept myself for what I offer to myself. (Elias nods) Okay. I think that's all, other than I've had a sense, unless you've already brought it to my attention, that there is something objectively that you wanted to tell me or something?

ELIAS: That you may be investing within a new bed! (Grinning, and we all crack up again)

JIM: Okay, that was it! Okay!

ELIAS: The most profound information of the day!

JIM: I love ya!

ELIAS: Words of wisdom from Elias! This be the objective message for the day!

JIM: This afternoon we were at Del Taco, and I noticed they were having a fall mattress sale....

ELIAS: Objective imagery! (Laughing)

JIM: Yes! It's beautiful!

VICKI: Oh, that's funny!

JIM: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are welcome very much.

(To Vic) You may be offering to our fond readers of your transcribing that this is an individual situation and not to be incorporated as a new belief system, that they all be rushing to be acquiring new beds and facing them to the west!! (Laughing)

VICKI: I do have one other question I'd like to ask. You were just talking about the removal of the subjective self and that the body consciousness responds differently to that at different times. I have a really strong belief system that when Mary engages this energy exchange, it's harmful to an extent, and that when she's sick it's even more harmful, and I'm curious if that's correct or not.

ELIAS: You are correct. The engagement of this energy exchange is somewhat damaging within the choice that Michael has chosen to be accomplishing this energy exchange and removing the subjective interaction and instruction, but it is not creating of disease. It is creating of functional complications, which in your terms is somewhat damaging to the physical body consciousness, to its functioning, and within the engagement of creating disease within the subjective instruction, it complicates the situation by removing the subjective awareness, but this also is Michael's choice. If this situation is unnecessarily ... or outside of his instruction and agreement, it shall not continue. This essence, Elias, is quite aware of Michael's movement and his investigation and his creations, and I have at times within this forum disengaged these sessions quickly for this reasoning. This is not intrusive within this present now, for Michael is choosing. As I have expressed, he is allowing himself a window and examining this. Therefore, the creation of affectingness by the removal of subjective activity is in concert with what he is creating within his subjective direction.

VICKI: It all goes together.

ELIAS: Correct. If it were not, we would not be speaking.

VICKI: I kind of get that. So can I assume then that the engagement of the energy exchange is not what is affecting of the illness lasting for so long?

ELIAS: No.

VICKI: Okay. Well, I did believe that might be true. (Still do!)

ELIAS: No. This is Michael's creation.

VICKI: Okay. That's helpful. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome. (Coughing) Once again! We shall be disengaging this day (coughing) and I express to you great affection.

JIM: Backatcha! Thank you.

ELIAS: (To Vic) And to you also. Au revoir!

Elias departs at 3:52 PM. (and Mary arrives coughing)

Vic's note: Now that I've observed quite a few of the sessions in which Mary was ill, I've noticed a pattern. When Mary engages Elias, she closes her eyes, takes one deep breath, and Elias arrives somewhere between one and forty seconds. During this period of illness, Mary's breathing was very labored, but became entirely normal within one to five seconds of closing her eyes. I find it an interesting aspect of the phenomenon that when Mary removes her subjective awareness, any obvious physical symptoms disappear. This is also quite confirming of Elias' statement that our subjective awareness instructs our body consciousness to display symptoms.

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