Being Instructional Is Not Necessarily Being Supportive
Topics:
“Focus Confirmations”
“To Increase Awareness of Projection, Projecting Intentionally”
“Being Instructional Is Not Necessarily Being Supportive”
Tuesday, July 3, 2007 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jim (Kai-Jan)
ELIAS: Good morning!
JIM: Good morning, old friend.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And what shall we discuss?
JIM: As usual, everything under the sun.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) Very well.
JIM: I've got a bunch of quickies here. The first few are for some friends and stuff and then we'll get off into the stuff that really means things.
I have a kind of friend, a guy that works for me, his name is Rick, and would like to know the total number of focuses that he has, and the number that we share.
ELIAS: Total numbering, 1,028. Shared focuses, 112.
JIM: Ooh, that's quite a bit.
Then I have a friend, named Cheryl, and the connections here feel very close and I don't know how many times but, how many focuses does she have, and how many do we share?
ELIAS: Total numbering, 1,856. Shared focuses, 182.
JIM: No wonder I feel so… (Laughs) Okay.
I have a couple — these were like (inaudible) and just beings early in my life and I don't know whatever happened to them. Can you give me a brief thing of whether, you know, what kind of focuses we shared, and whether or not they're still here? One of them, name is Donda, and I know there was a lot there. I don't know how many, but a lot.
ELIAS: You are requesting numbering?
JIM: Yes, please.
ELIAS: (Pause) 204.
JIM: Whoa, I knew I was close. And then another one was named Claire.
ELIAS: 192.
JIM: Damn. No wonder they came in to help.
Tracy's had a name popping up, and it's Jehosaphat. And she doesn't know what that is. Can you give her any clue or is that just something she'll have to trace down? (Elias laughs) I know. I know that laugh.
ELIAS: I may express to you that she can investigate, but it is associated with a reminder in relation to fun.
JIM: Oh, okay. I'll tell her that.
Then, getting on to my focuses and stuff, one of the things I see that seems to be limiting me, is I'm kind of shying away from any that are what we would call famous or notable and that. Do you know how many of those I have? So I can start wrapping my mind around that.
ELIAS: 16.
JIM: Okay. The number in the merman/mermaid dimension?
ELIAS: Presently, 589.
JIM: Holy shit. (Laughs) How many does Melissa have there? She relates to that really strongly.
ELIAS: Presently, 612.
JIM: Whooh, the (inaudible) girl. (Laughs)
How many in Atlantis?
ELIAS: (Pause) 1,644.
JIM: Holy shit. Damn. We're just going to go nuts here.
When we were at Castaic I talked about my intent and it seems, when I look at the whole lifetime, it's either or both, connections or limitation. Would either of those be correct?
ELIAS: Both.
JIM: Ah, so it is both of them. Okay.
Recently just joined a new online group and was wondering about the connections with the people there. Can you give me the number shared with, first would be Jim Cox?
ELIAS: 49.
JIM: Sharon?
ELIAS: 86.
JIM: And Al?
ELIAS: 71.
JIM: Interesting.
Another new face that's popped up, and they seem to be coming out of the woodwork, is a girl named Jen and she contacted me through the soft list. Can you tell me how many focuses we share?
ELIAS: 51.
JIM: Okay. When I talked with her, she was trying to send something and I kind of blocked it. I don't know exactly what it was but afterwards when I was talking to Melissa I kind of saw her where I was kind of laying with my head in her lap and she was holding, and like, soothing or loving or whatever. Is that from this lifetime or is that a carry over from somewhere else?
ELIAS: Another focus.
JIM: Okay, the one that we had shared before.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: These other ones, I'm just going to run through a bunch of them, basically, so they can get into the database and get the official blessing.
At Easter Island, and you were there with us in that thing way back when, Bridgy was my partner, and the child we had was Jan. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay, and then Brita was another partner at that time, and Francie was the child then.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay.
This one came out of the group, group meds: 1920s France. I was a man named Pascal.
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: And Tracy was my wife?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: And my daughter was Terry, she was my daughter Cecilia then.
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Oh, doing good.
The one I refer to as my beefeater guy, he's kind of… I've just had a brief image of him in the suit like the beefeaters have, with his missing teeth. Is he from the 1600s group focus, when we were all there?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. Another one, this one Tracy and I were talking one morning and she has a focus in Aiden where she was killed. Apparently I was her lover in that thing and I got the name Manny, and she got Fred Wilkerson. Can you clarify either of those?
ELIAS: Both are correct. One is a nickname.
JIM: Ah, so I was Fred Wilkerson but Manny was the nickname I went.
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Okay. My astronaut in the future — I think of him as the 2300 and Arkandin said it was 2130. Can you clarify that? And I got his name as Yaren, is that also?
ELIAS: The name is correct, and what is being connected to are two different focuses.
JIM: Yeah, I wondered about that. Which one is he? (Laughs) To me, from the work of James Legg it would probably be the later, the 2300s, but who knows.
ELIAS: Yes. You are correct.
JIM: Okay. So there's another one in 2130?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Uh-huh. Okay.
In the POW that I shared with Bridgy, one of the two focuses that I pick up from that time frame, either Julie or Mary, would that be one of them, in that time frame?
ELIAS: The first.
JIM: Julie?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. Alterversity, in one of the meditations again I picked up on this, and it was something where I just got a blurb of kind of being in the classroom working on a thesis type thing. Is that one also correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. This next one I'm not sure of, but we were in one of the Arkandin discussion groups and Marta came up with a focus in the village, in Burma, and I think I was a monk in that. Is that right?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Boy, I'm getting good at this.
The next one I've always had a connection to Tibet and just for curiosity I tried to go see what I could get. And I got a very clear face and it's a Tibetan shepherd. And it seems he's very aware. He could have been in one of the monasteries but didn't want that — preferred being out — and he connects to a Native American and he does it by projection. And it was interesting the way I got the projection because he kind of stood on a cliff and dove off in a swan dive. And this big eagle comes and picks him up and I would assume that that would be Kai-Jan, and takes him to where the Indian is and drops him and he kind of flutters down into the forest. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Ah, wow. See Melissa, I'm getting good. (Laughs)
I picked up… Arkandin said I have a current focus in New Zealand. And I picked up of a scene of a man climbing on a mountain that would seem to fit that general area. And I got Tom first, and John kind of came behind it. But I kind of resisted that because I already have a John, and I don't know. Is any of that correct?
ELIAS: All of it.
JIM: Ah, so it is Tom.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: John fit in.
ELIAS: That is a portion of the surname.
JIM: Would it be Johnston?
ELIAS: No.
JIM: No? Hmm, okay, you're going to make me work on that. (Both laugh) I know. You're a bear.
We were doing another med and I saw a woman walking in a wagon train and I felt like it was the Donner party. And Melissa later said that she didn't die, but she did go into a coma and didn't come out. But in any of the historical records I couldn't find any reference to that. Can you clarify any of that?
ELIAS: Yes. For there are some individuals that engaged that trek that at a point separated and would not necessarily be noted in your historical account.
JIM: Oh, okay. So they were like an offshoot that went a different way or fell behind or something.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. Now these next couple are just ones that I took the images out of my head. One of like a mountain man. Do I have a focus there?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. And another is a Sioux chief?
ELIAS: That would be of a focus of yours, but the chief is your father.
JIM: Oh, okay. So that's why it came through that way.
Harold Dahl. This one Melissa sent me a thing on a UFO incident, one of the very first, and she didn't know why. She just sent it to me. I seem to see the incident happening as it was described and Arkandin said I was the fisherman on the boat, which would have been Harold Dahl. And then when I questioned that name he said, “no.” Can you clarify that any?
ELIAS: (Pause) Yes. For I can explain two elements of this. One, is that you do incorporate the observing essence action with that individual. And also you have projected your awareness to that individual and therefore have allowed yourself to empathically experience that action.
JIM: Huh. Okay.
Now, the next one… This one, there is a pirate focus. And it's off the coast of Africa. And Arkandin said that my sailor, that we had previously talked about, is the same one. That he was captured off the ship and became a pirate. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Ah, okay. And that tavern scene I have in New England, is that connected to this same focus, or is that a different one?
ELIAS: Different.
JIM: Okay. And then, on the pirate ship: are you there also?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: (Laughs) Now we just have to figure out who, huh? Okay.
The one merman focus I have, he's like a priest and healer. But the name is Monark. Can you pronounce it so I can understand it? (Inaudible)
ELIAS: Monalark.
JIM: Monalark. Another syllable in there. Okay.
Around Christ, Melissa's telling me is carrying the cross at that time. And I don't know if it was the one who was just elected to carry it while he couldn't — or whatever was going on — and I got a name, Barnabas. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes, but this was associated with your own crucifixion in that same time framework.
JIM: Oh, so I was crucified?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Ah! Oh, boy. Interesting. Well I must have been one of the zealots or some of that stuff along there. (Both laugh)
And I don't remember what I… I said this in Castiac, I don't think so, but Jan found us a group focused on a ship that's Phoenician, and that I was the captain. Is that correct?
ELIAS: (Pause) First mate.
JIM: First mate. Okay.
In the Russian focus, where we were all together, and when I first got the information that I was on the firing squad — I had envisioned it as that, a firing squad; when I investigated the details it was anything but — in that situation, was (inaudible) the one that I shot?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. And Medvedev came to me sometime after I was doing that investigation, and I thought it was myself but Melissa says no. Was that my grandson, Cory?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. And Melissa says mine was Toraf or something similar to that.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. She also sees me around Mozart. Is that me, or am I around him?
ELIAS: You do incorporate a focus that was briefly known to him.
JIM: Okay, so it's in that time frame.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: These next couple are from other dimensional type stuff. I've always a connection to Star Trek and all that stuff since the very beginning. And I look at that and I wonder, do I have, you know like James T. Kirk — because everything he does, so resonates with me: he's brash, he's a warrior, he's caring, he's protective, and all those qualities that he has just sing to the core of me.
ELIAS: Do you incorporate a focus of similarity to that?
JIM: I know I have similarity, but is that… The way these things work they're kind of translations or something or whatever—
ELIAS: Yes. You are correct, they are translations. And yes, I would confirm.
JIM: Oh, okay.
Melissa found a thing for up in Troy and we were trying to confirm the different things and in watching the movie, Achilles sang to me, but that could be my warrior and everything, you know the whole way that goes. But I also saw the scene where I was holding Melissa and she was gone. She had been killed or something in there. (Melissa laughs in background) Yeah, I know, you giggle. Is that… Was it Achilles, or? Arkandin said something about a general of Homer. Or not Homer, Hector.
ELIAS: That would be more accurate.
JIM: Okay. So it was a general of Hector.
I've been having visions and focuses and stuff just crawling out of the woodwork lately. I found one the other morning. It seemed to be a Roman general. Was that a general around Tiberius?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. On the Titanic it seems I was in the band and Arkandin said I played the trumpet but on the listings I don't see any listing for a trumpet player. But early in life I had a shot at playing the violin. Can you clarify that?
ELIAS: (Pause) That may have been an interference that created that response. I would agree that, yes, you do incorporate a focus as a musician in that scenario, but not with brass.
JIM: Not with brass. So violin would be more accurate?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. We're just rolling through these. Now we're going to start getting into the fun. The last few days, the last week, whatever the time frame — it's just ridiculous the way it's going — I was doing some energy work. And it was night and as I was seeing it, it kind of seemed like all this blue light just kind of formed over and assisted. And then flowed up on the side and kind of an angelic form, humanoid but without wings and that. And I assume that was you.
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Yeah, I thought so. And also Melissa has been seeing you at her place, in your suave little black outfit. Is that right?
MELISSA: Hi.
ELIAS: (Laughs) Yes.
JIM: Yup, okay. And then the other night we were talking and I felt your presence here and she was kidding and she says close your eyes and look and then I saw you in that same outfit. Was that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: And then one of those, duh, moments with my red dragon focus. I had a vision of flying kind of in formation with two others. I was up to the right. There was a blue one down below me, slightly to the left. And then way down and out front was this whiter, crystal clear one. I'm presuming you were the blue one?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Uh-huh. And the white one, Melissa says it's some kind of tool. What is that, or how is that working, or what is that?
ELIAS: Yes. That would be correct. That is an instrument that is incorporated to hone skills.
JIM: Ah, well that's interesting.
Okay, now we be getting down to the good stuff. (Laughs) Oh, here's another one these pop-in things. The other morning, in meditation, I saw myself answering my front door and this family was in the doorway. There was a young woman holding a small child, a man behind her, and I think another child standing by her. What was that?
ELIAS: And your impression?
JIM: (Inaudible) coming, or what?
ELIAS: Your impression?
JIM: Just that I was seeing something that may be in the future, I don't know. But it was very vivid, and nobody that I know of right now.
ELIAS: A probable reality.
JIM: Ah! So that's from something slightly different from where I am right now.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Ah, okay. Interesting.
Another thing, I had this blue throne in a blue room show up. And I felt the impression Poseidon and when I was talking to Melissa about it she got Zeus. And I seem to walk up to the throne, when I was seeing that. Can you clarify that any?
ELIAS: This would be more associated with the imagery of Poseidon.
JIM: Oh, okay. (Melissa laughs) She's cackling over here.
We're going to get into where I get resistant and how things are changing and some of the problems here. And some of it revolves around fragmentation, which I really don't have great details on other than that I know, you know, we just break off from others, and so on. Could you list my fragmentations for me? I think you're a part of it. I don't know how many others.
ELIAS: Who you have fragmented from?
JIM: Yes.
ELIAS: Yes, there is an element of myself. And also (pause), one essence, Brine.
JIM: I-N-E?
ELIAS: B-R-I-N-E, yes. One essence, Caulder, C-A-U-L-D-E-R. One essence, Tai, T-A-I.
JIM: Huh. Wow, what a conglomeration.
My Magi man, is that Gideon? You confirmed that I have him, but we've never given him a name.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: And is this the biblical Gideon?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Whoa. There goes part of my fame in religious backgrounds. Again, “No, this can't be you.”
Also my prince, where you're the Pharaoh, was that Thartu? Is that the final name that comes through? Because I've bounced around it so many different ways.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Hey, finally!
Was the Pharaoh that you were, was that Djoser, D-J-O-S-E-R?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Hey, god. I got it good. Okay.
Then I have a confusion with Thartu and Gideon. They seem, at times, that one is the other. Or they're connected somehow. Is that—
ELIAS: Strong similarity in energy.
JIM: That's what Melissa said, but it still doesn't clarify.
On Gideon, when he went to find the Egyptians that were lost over there, did he actually make the trip to Australia, or was that a projection?
ELIAS: A projection.
JIM: Okay. Because I thought of him sailing on the ship, and that. But that's the way he visualized the projection, I presume.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: And then the thing for George, when he went to the Pacific coast?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: A-ha. So projections are quite a thing now.
In my Egyptian focuses, when we did the fire dance on the pyramid, I had what I saw as a purple woman. She was in Egyptian robes, but all a light lavender. And she left the pyramid, kind of flew to a house, and then went across space to a different planet. And I hit—Melissa's laughing at me. I came up with Pleiades, and Melissa says Orion, around that area. And I saw her walking among plants on that planet, you know, kind of loving with the kind of tropical things, she was there. And I got the feeling that here, in Egypt in this particular focus, she was trying to bring that greenery and that type of landscape to her place here. Was that correct?
ELIAS: (Pause) Somewhat.
JIM: Somewhat.
ELIAS: For the imagery is correct. The actual occurrence is more of a projection.
JIM: Oh, okay. Okay. So she was connecting to that there and trying to bring that here.
ELIAS: Yes. Or, in a manner of speaking, attempting to reconfigure that energy into a similarity.
JIM: Okay. And then in one of the Arkandins — when we were all chasing focuses and stuff there in the group — one of them, they said I was a woman of importance in agriculture. Would that be the Kripa woman? Or is she separate from that?
ELIAS: That would be the same.
JIM: Okay. That means I've got five here that I know of so far.
Melissa has brought up an interesting subject, and it seems that the number seventeen resonates around this. She says I'm in a council of seventeen. And it seems to be something that comes from the merman/mermaid dimension. Do you get anything on that? (Inaudible)
ELIAS: That is correct.
JIM: Ah, can you give me any idea what the council is or why?
ELIAS: It is a council that generates decisions in association with environmental actions.
JIM: Ah, so they're kind of trying to keep things in tune?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.
JIM: Okay. Damn. That's almost unbelievable. We got through all this stuff and we got time. That never happens. Wow, wow.
MELISSA: Never say never!
JIM: Yeah, I know.
On projections, I seem to be doing some. I'm not consciously aware of it but I seem to be. Elena found me across town one day when I wasn't there and Arkandin said it was a projection. Is there some way to become more consciously aware of these? Because I seem to be spinning them out.
ELIAS: Practicing intentionally doing it, will allow you to become more aware of when you are doing this action not necessarily intentionally.
JIM: Okay.
ELIAS: Also being aware of your energy and how it is being manipulated more clearly, will be helpful in allowing you to be more aware of projecting.
JIM: Okay. Wow. I'm flabbergasted.
Another thing, Melissa has just found me a wizard. And she calls it a unicorn Pegasus. Are these kind of guides in other dimensions, or are they focuses of mine that I'm connecting to like I do with Borek?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: They're other focuses of mine?
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: (inaudible)
JIM: (laughs) Whoa, now I got to go find… yeah.
MELISSA: See, I wasn't telling.
JIM: Yeah, you're turkey.
What's the name she had? The wizard was Bacuar, B-A-C-U-A-R.
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: And Pegasus is Tulond, T-U-L-O-N-D.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Hah! Whoa. Damn, this stuff is flying.
You know what? Since we've got so much time — ha! Ho ho ho — is there anything you want to just say? Because whenever we talk I feel like I'm sitting, having a beer with a buddy and we're just chatting. (Elias laughs)
MELISSA: Do you want a beer, Elias?
JIM: I've got some in the fridge. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: And what would you like to chat about?
JIM: Anything, and nothing. You know, friends get together and things that have happened, or what's going on — that kind of stuff.
ELIAS: And you may offer this type of conversation. I would express to you that with my interactions, you may not quite understand or connect with–
JIM: Oh, okay.
ELIAS: –what I do. (Laughs)
JIM: (Laughs) Yeah you do.
Melissa is showing me, here on the internet, she says, “Ask about Simon.” Her little puppy. She says “Who is he to me, or who is he, or what's the connection there?”
ELIAS: It is a configuration of energy that you have created as a companion.
JIM: (Inaudible) She got it. (Laughs) Oh, god. Yeah.
The energy and things that are going on now, for me is… The changes are so wild and just going crazy. The doors… I went to the shaman section for openings, and I got 'em. And it's like a tidal wave. I'm just rolling in it and I really love it. It's kind of what I wanted for so long and it's starting to be… Do you have anything to say along that line?
ELIAS: I am understanding. In actuality there is quite an escalation in opening energy recently, which can very strongly be associated with this wave [1]. And in that, it is allowing many individuals to be generating new experiences and considerably widening their awareness to a new point. Which is encouraging, in association—
JIM: I'm getting a blip here from Melissa. In her words, quote, “What am I supposed to be doing, where the hell am I going, and who am I?” (laughs)
ELIAS: (Pause) What are you supposed to be doing?
MELISSA: Yes.
ELIAS: You are already doing what you are supposed to be doing, for it is not a matter of ‘supposed to.’ It is a matter of choice. And in that, you have chosen—
JIM: (Laughs) God, this is crazy. I'm having so much fun.
ELIAS: —You have chosen to be in this reality to experience, this reality.
JIM: Yeah, she's kind of boundless and, that you're well aware. And by surrounding (inaudible) she's cool. She sometimes doesn't get herself because she's so involved in others. That's my perception. And she doesn't quite accept that sometimes.
MELISSA: Why did I choose a body? This is ridiculous, this.
JIM: (Laughs) I mean, because you have to, to be here.
MELISSA: Not really.
JIM: Yeah, if you want to experience it as such.
MELISSA: Oh, yeah, well, that was a poor choice on my part.
JIM: (Laughs) Not really. I like it.
Well, Elias, I'll throw you a couple of quickies. With Seth and Jane and Rob, do I share focuses with them? And if so, how many?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Ah. And how many with each?
ELIAS: (Pause) With the first…
JIM: Seth?
ELIAS: (Pause) 62.
JIM: Okay. And Jane?
ELIAS: 100.
JIM: Ah, even numbers. And Rob?
ELIAS: 106.
JIM: Interesting. Also, has my personal focus number gone up again?
ELIAS: Increased, 58.
JIM: Increased 58?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: So it was — I'd have to look to be sure — I think it was 1078 was the last one.
On the shamanic experience, when the thing I had with Matt — and I picked up his focus as Webster and tied it to what was going on — how many do share with him? Let's see… I got 48, that I shared with him.
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Yeah, and 47 with Orlinda who was the female shaman?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Wow, damn I'm getting good at this. Orlinda's over here cackling at me. Interesting.
That whole particular experience was… The energies and stuff around that were so vivid and strong. And usually in groups you'll always get somebody that kind of a little disparate, and doesn't quite blend in, and makes a little static in the energy. And that one was so clean and tight. Everybody was just completely matched. And I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before.
ELIAS: That is what occurs when you are genuinely pooling energy together in a common direction. When all of the individuals participating are allowing themselves to focus in the same direction, that pooling of energy becomes very powerful.
JIM: Yeah, it was. It was like I could see them all, and it was like it was solid. It was just so tight. And the different experiences that the energies as they were flowing – particularly when Orlinda would do her, what I called the forceful, it grows, the forceful songs. And the one where she was pulling energy from me, that was just totally amazing. I was in awe.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) But to allow yourself that experience it requires allowing yourself to be quite open, also.
JIM: Yeah, I'm getting better at that.
ELIAS: I would agree.
JIM: It was one of the big reasons I went to that, and I think it accomplished a lot of what I wanted. And it's still accomplishing; it's still going on.
ELIAS: Yes, and also generating a perception of fun in these actions allows you to create that openness even more; rather than generating a strong seriousness which may create some obstacles. But when you are engaging these types of actions with a perception of fun, it allows you to generate much easier.
JIM: Yeah, it has been a lot of fun.
Lately, I'm seeing what I presume are focuses, and it's similar to what I gathered in the first experience when George and all the rest of them came out in that tunnel scene. And it seems I'll see one and then they just kind of morph to another and another and another. But when this happened the other morning, the first one, as he came into focus, it seemed he was staring at me and that he was aware. And there was a connection there. And then that held for a short time and then they started changing again. Was he aware of me being there?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Huh. Whoa, so the communications are open. (Elias chuckles) It's going to be so much more fun. And it is.
God, I can't… I got to go through the notes here because there's time just left and it…
Let's talk about Crystal because she's going through some hard times and having trouble adjusting. And Melissa and I tried helping the other night, and that was some very vivid imagery. Is there anything we can do, what we (inaudible)?
ELIAS: Explain.
JIM: Just that she seems to run up and down from these highs and lows from where she's just energetic and doing what she thinks she should be doing, and going on very consciously and doing good. And then she seems to go right down to the other end and right down into the pits.
ELIAS: And what has your interaction been thus far?
JIM: We did, like, a healing the other night and I don't know if that helped. But during that, I was with Thorak, the dragon, and had very vivid visualization of being totally in the dark and just… Usually you can project light in those situations and it will generate out, but this seemed to just suck it up. And I finally left it. I had taken a sword as a visualization, or a tool, whatever, and tied that into the energy and then spun it around and jammed it into the ground. And that kind of had the energy flow going down into the ground and spreading out, very slowly, but it was just pulling, you know, just sucking on that energy, like it was crazy. And I left and left it that way. And it felt like that's what was supposed to be done and that would be an opening. And just leave it and let it go.
ELIAS: I would express to you, what you experienced was imagery that you presented to yourself as a translation of what the other individual feels. Therefore you did offer yourself information, in allowing yourself to connect to that and generate more of an understanding of what the other individual's experience is. As to generating any affectingness in relation to that, not necessarily.
JIM: Yeah, you can't make someone else's creation. But you still connect to it—
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: —then it can help. And it's a question of her allowing.
ELIAS: And in this, have you generated an approach of inquiring of her, what she wants?
JIM: Uh-huh.
ELIAS: And?
JIM: I get feelings there that… Of course you know that I'm a father and I want to protect and nurture and whatever. But yet, she has to do what she has to do. And I don't know whether I'm intruding, or what I can offer. Or how I can do anything to get through that. Because I know at times her mood and her feeling is very, you know, very deep — like I present, that blackness that just sucks everything up — and I know she gets there. And I don't know how to do anything to assist in that. Or whether I can, and it's just something she has to deal with, and find her own way out.
ELIAS: And how would you practice being supportive?
JIM: Well, the only thing I can do, is like… She was in one of these, just before she started going up, and she went back down. And I went, and I just wrote a little note, and I hung it up on the mirror in her bathroom. And basically, you know, “You are a glorious being,” words along that line — it still hangs up there; she hasn't taken it down — and just to recognize that. And I really don't know. I do whatever I can for her within physical reality, to assist. But I don't know—
ELIAS: Such as?
JIM: Her things with work. She works at home and I do what I can for that. And when she gets into some of these moods I kind of try and make her feel better or see things differently, but—
ELIAS: How?
JIM: By talking. That she can do what she wants to. It's just up to her to do what she wants to and that she CAN change it. And she knows this, but I think she has trouble accepting it.
ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, I am aware of your intention. I will express to you that you are not being intrusive, but you are also not being supportive.
JIM: Okay, tell me how can I do that.
ELIAS: For what you doing is being instructional. I understand your intention of wanting to be helpful. And I am understanding of your genuineness in caring, but many times individuals want to be helpful and the manner in which they are expressing is not helpful.
JIM: Okay. So how can I be helpful?
ELIAS: First of all, it is important for you to be accepting of what she is expressing, when she is expressing it; not being instructional.
JIM: Okay.
ELIAS: When you express to an individual, when they are experiencing what you have described — that they are a glorious being, or that they can accomplish, or that they can change — what occurs within them is a devaluing, and it creates a reinforcement of their own desperation.
JIM: Okay.
ELIAS: For they already are experiencing a perception of themself that they cannot. And that they are not. And therefore, the manner in which they receive that information is configured in relation to what they themselves are experiencing. And therefore, they turn those types of statements into their own furthering of their discounting of themself. For they generate the association of what they see in themself, how they perceive themselves, and what they are experiencing and feeling. And in that, it does not match what is being expressed to them. And therefore, what they see is, “I am NOT that, therefore there is some element wrong with me.”
The manner in which you can begin becoming more effectively supportive, is to LISTEN, first of all. Allow her to express herself. And in that, ACCEPT whatever she is expressing; without judgment, without instruction, without offering a change. In that action, as you allow her to express herself, listen closely. For in that, you will generate the ability to discern whether she is actually requesting helpfulness, or not. And it will also allow you to become more aware of yourself and your energy and what you are doing that reinforces these experiences that concern you.
JIM: Okay. In other words, just kind of let the feeling of love get through to her and leave it at that and let her do what she wants and express how she wants to.
ELIAS: But participate.
JIM: Yeah. No, no, listen and talk and that but, instead of trying to say, do this or do that, just offer love and leave it at that.
ELIAS: Yes. Unless she actually generates a request. And in that situation, if she is requesting, allow yourself to incorporate the example of the experience that you have offered to yourself in relation to her experience, and allow yourself to share, not instruct, but to share. Share your experiences, but not in a manner of expressing what she should or should not do.
JIM: Okay. We're running over time a bit. So I have to say goodbye. As much as I dislike that. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: Very well, my friend. I express great encouragement to you. And encouragement to continue with your fun, and your experiences. (Chuckles)
JIM: Fair, and I will.
ELIAS: I offer to each of you great appreciation and tremendous lovingness. Until our next meeting. In dear friendship, au revoir.
JIM: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 1 hour 6 minutes)
[1] The perception wave in consciousness started some time in 2006, orchestrated by the essence family of Tumold.
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