Disengagement of a Probable Self
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“Disengagement of a Probable Self”
Saturday, March 10, 2007 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jim S. (Bevan)
ELIAS: Good afternoon.
JIM: Good afternoon, Elias. It’s good to talk to you again.
ELIAS: And to you also.
JIM: I have a burning question here. I feel sure that Tamerlane is a focus of mine. Am I right?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Did Jeanette sense that relationship when she and her family were in Samarkand?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Did I tap into Tamerlane’s energy in my vision of Samarkand?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Originally I thought Tamerlane aligned Vold. Now I think his alignment may be Ilda. Is it either of these?
ELIAS: The latter. You are correct.
JIM: Ilda. Alright. Soft orientation and emotional focus?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: I feel sure enough of this focus that I am trying to project knowing and appreciation to him. Is he aware of that?
ELIAS: To an extent.
JIM: Extent. I’m trying to project awareness of Tamerlane as herself to Jeanette as she deals with her injuries. Have I succeeded in that?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Is one of Tamerlane’s nine wives a focus of Mahji?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Is her name a’ishah like Mohammad’s third wife?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Stephen/Ornah would like to know if French Symbolist Poet, Arthur Rimbaud, is a focus of his.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Yes?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: In December, 2004, you told me that Bevan had fragmented from Lantron and when I asked if essences had fragmented from Bevan, you answered, “Many.” Are Muriel and I part of those fragmentations?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Yes?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: We still retain our relationship with Bevan, don’t we? I wouldn’t like to lose that connection.
ELIAS: You are correct.
JIM: I feel that these new essences might include quite a number of Bevan’s focus personalities. Is that the case?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Do other essences participate in this creation?
ELIAS: Of fragmentation?
JIM: I beg your pardon?
ELIAS: Of fragmentation?
JIM: Yes. They don’t? Fragmentation is just one essence? Maybe I understood wrong.
ELIAS: Fragmentation can occur in relation to one essence or it can occur in relation to several essences. But all essences generate this action.
JIM: Okay. Alright. Yeah, let’s go on. In her dreams, did Jeanette dance with me to Rachmaninoff’s “Symphonic Dances” music? I tried to project that energy to her.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Did it help in her healing?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: I’m getting Judy Coleman’s essence name as Patmae. Am I right?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Does she align Sumafi?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Common orientation and thought focused?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Since they are both crystallographers, was it Senta’s influence that drew Judy to me long before I knew of either you or Senta?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: I believe that I have picked up a focus of Lirin, L-I-R-I-N. I’m getting the name Angelina Torino. Is there a focus of Lirin with that name?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Align Ilda?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Common orientation and emotional focus?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: She lives in or near Salerno, Sicily, at this time?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: For some reason, I have her confused with the focus of Patmae whose surname is Salisar. Why that confusion?
ELIAS: Very similar energy.
JIM: Similar energy.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: In trying to write a story about Bettina, I came up with a cast of characters that would be part of the gestalt to explore other dimensions. Of those, you have confirmed four. Is the time frame of this, late 23rd century or early 24th century?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Which one, early 24th or…
ELIAS: Early 24th.
JIM: Early 24th. Does Professor Elizabeth Laidlaw act as one focus of gestalt energy flow?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: She is professor emeritus associated with the Lunar University Space Exploration Department?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: I have her as a focus of Alliare. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: She aligns Tumold?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Soft orientation and thought focused?
ELIAS: Political.
JIM: Political. Essence Esilia, speaking through Bettina Larch, prompted Laidlaw to initiate formation of the gestalt and to select participants. Is that the case?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Another participant in the gestalt is Tessie, the daughter of Robin Latke and Missy Larksong. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Tessie is a focus of Mubu?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: She aligns Borledim?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: I beg your pardon?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Correct. Intermediate orientation and emotional focus?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Tessie is a focus of gestalt energy flow opposite Laidlaw?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Tessie serves as a translator of gestalt energy?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Another member of the gestalt is George Forda?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: George is a focus of Hardy?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: He aligns Sumafi?
ELIAS: No.
JIM: No?
ELIAS: Aligns Sumari.
JIM: Sumari! Okay. Common orientation and thought focused?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: He is an assayer for the Minerals, Metals and Crystals Department?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Another member of the gestalt is Howard Mosher?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: He is a focus of Cuit?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Aligns Gramada?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Common orientation and political focus?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: He is involved in transporting material between Earth and Titan and Europa observatories?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Lastly, I have Loren Bittress as a member of the gestalt, but I’m a bit doubtful about his participation. Is Loren part of the gestalt?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: You sounded doubtful.
ELIAS: It is not doubt, it is a fluctuation.
JIM: Ah!
ELIAS: …For, yes, you could classify him in that manner, but it is partial.
JIM: Okay. That’s interesting. Does the identity tone of the gestalt translate partially as Wanderer as Esilia asserts?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Does my depiction of finding traces of an alien race on one of Saturn’s moons, on Saturn’s moon, Rhea, have some basis in this dimension’s reality?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: If so, is my label, Reshians, a reasonable translation of the alien race’s identity? That’s R-E-S-H-I-A-N-S.
ELIAS: Yes, you could translate in that manner.
JIM: Okay. In my talk with you on December 8, 2005, I asked you for an essence name for Muriel Richardson and you gave me the essence name, Petchu, P-E-T-C-H-U. You also confirmed that she belonged Sumari, aligned Milumet, soft orientation and emotional focus. On December 18, 2006, having forgotten that I asked previously, I asked if Muriel Richardson was a focus of Hardy and you said that she was. You also confirmed that she aligned Zuli, soft orientation and emotional focus. You confirmed that, between these two questionings, I switched probable realities when accessing information on Mirabelle Delacroix. Did that switch have anything to do with the difference in Muriel Richardson’s directing essence and family alignment? Or is there some other explanation for the difference?
ELIAS: The explanation would be the fragmentation.
JIM: Are you there? [unintelligible]
ELIAS: Yes, the explanation would be fragmentation.
JIM: Fragmentation.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Okay. She fragmented from… Okay. Alright. She was originally with Petchu and then she fragmented and became a focus of Hardy. Is that the idea?
ELIAS: Yes. (Pause) That is correct.
JIM: Okay. I’m getting John Delancy, tugboat operator, as a focus of mine. Am I right?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: This is in the New York harbor in the 1930s and 1940s?
ELIAS: Yes, it would be an overlapping focus.
JIM: An overlapping for me, yes. John aligns Ilda?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: And he’s common orientation and political focus?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: My fascination with Tugboat Annie stories was John’s influence, wasn’t it?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: With regard to the black woman who made such an impression on me many years ago, you said that we shared focuses and were engaged in counterpart action. Is she a focus of Hardy by any chance?
ELIAS: No, but does engage mergence with that essence.
JIM: Ah! Okay. Then the mergence… meaning she is now a focus of Hardy but wasn’t at that time. Is that the idea?
ELIAS: No. Essences that may incorporate similar tones generally do generate an action of mergence quite frequently. This does not alter the focuses of an essence but it can influence what you are tapping into in energy.
JIM: Ah! Okay. I had her name at one time and didn’t write it down. Now I’m getting the name of Bessie Smith. Is that her name?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Did she experience a feeling of recognition of me as I experienced recognition of her?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking.
JIM: Alright.
ELIAS: For you generate more clarity in association with what you are identifying, yet there was a recognition of the energy, but not as clearly defined as you define.
JIM: Alright. I believe she aligns Zuli. Does she?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Is she intermediate orientation and political focus?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: When you told me to investigate with regard to the number of focuses that Bevan has in this dimension, was the number 1524 in that time frame?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: That’s the impression I came up with. I suspect that the number has changed since then. Is that number now 1527?
ELIAS: More.
JIM: More. Oh, dear!
ELIAS: (Laughs)
JIM: Alright. I suspect that Michael/Rajheen and the woman that he knows as Michelle share many lives. Is that the case?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Can you give me a number on that?
ELIAS: Eighty-six.
JIM: Eight six! Very good. Could I ask for an essence name for Michelle?
ELIAS: Essence name, Xuyen (zu-yen) X-U-Y-E-N.
JIM: S-U-Y-N?
ELIAS: X-U-Y-E-N.
JIM: Okay. Align Milumet, soft orientation and emotional focus?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Is Michael making contact with her in his dreams?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Is she, too, experiencing that dream interaction?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: What is the significance of Michael’s dream experience of hearing Michelle speak to an infant?
ELIAS: This would be a focuses with a shared focus in which there was a tremendous bond to a small one which died…
JIM: Ah!
ELIAS: … quite young.
JIM: Ah! Okay. Thank you. I think he’ll appreciate that. Did another probable self of mine suffer a heart attack and possibly disengage after I finished clearing enough snow from our driveway so that a furnace repairman could get to the house? I felt my knees start to buckle as I clung to the snow blower for support after putting it away.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Yes?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
JIM: Did that probable self disengage or is it still going?
ELIAS: Disengaged.
JIM: Disengaged. Did I create that furnace igniter failure in order to force myself to emergency plow the driveway in order to experience that possible heart problem?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: I find my dream world considerably more entertaining than my waking world. For one thing, I don’t have an octogenarian’s body to contend with. In fact, I seem not very conscious of a body at all. Then there is the rapidity with which things change and the sense of exploring in several directions at once. Is this a taste of non-physical reality that I am giving myself?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Would this be a sort of preview of post-transition reality?
ELIAS: No. It would be, in your terms, a preview, so to speak, of prior to transition.
JIM: Ah! Okay. Have I become conscious of it lately because I am in transition?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: I have a belief that I am unable to communicate effectively, don’t I?
ELIAS: Yes, I would agree.
JIM: Several times in my talks with you, you have prompted me to express thoughts about something and I have been unable to do so. My mind goes blank. This is an expression of that belief, isn’t it?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
JIM: I find that I can express my thoughts in writing much more easily than I can in speech. Is that because I can edit my writing whereas I feel that the spoken word can’t be altered so readily?
ELIAS: Yes, that would be accurate.
JIM: There is also the immediacy of speech and how it is perceived by other individuals. I think this bothers me because of fear of how I will be perceived by other individuals. Is that the case?
ELIAS: Yes, that would be accurate. I am acknowledging of you in your evaluation.
JIM: Well, I’m trying to pick up these things.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And…
JIM: At this point in my life I doubt if I could alter the strength of this communication belief even if I wanted to, which I don’t. Is there really any point in trying?
ELIAS: I would express to you, my friend, it is a matter of preference and choice, and if you choose not to alter this situation it is not necessarily to your detriment.
JIM: Okay, very good. Thank you. In the “Nature of Personal Reality,” Seth named crying as an effective means of releasing energy. Do you agree?
ELIAS: Yes, I would agree, and I have expressed this to other individuals also.
JIM: Very good. I tend to fight the action of crying, yet in response to some music and in response to some thoughts of other selves, I often cry or at least feel myself tearing up. Do I fight the action because I believe I will be perceived as unmanly if I cry?
ELIAS: Not necessarily as unmanly, but more so you generate an association that crying is an expression of weakness.
JIM: Ah! Yes! I savor the emotion that I feel when I cry. Do I also feel as though I might be carried away by it?
ELIAS: Yes, I would definitely agree.
JIM: Okay. To what extent does my hearing difficulty stem from beliefs rather than changes in how I create my ear mechanisms?
ELIAS: It would be significantly associated with beliefs.
JIM: Belief. Right.
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: I don’t think the difficulty is due to my not wanting to hear, since I do want to hear you, for example, and still have difficulty in doing that. What is my core belief behind this hearing problem?
ELIAS: One is associated with age that is a strong belief, and one is associated with a pay off that gives you an excuse to hear what you want to hear and not what you do not want to hear. (Both laugh)
JIM: I suspect that’s true. (Both crack up). Alright. Lately, I have become conscious of the high-pitched whine of my computer’s cooling fan and find it quite annoying. Is this an example of the effect of the energy wave addressed to perception?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: It is. Also lately, I find myself sitting at my computer with my right leg cocked behind me as though for a speedy getaway. Where do I think I’m going to run to?
ELIAS: (Laughs) Not necessarily run to, but generating a posture of being prepared to generate movement in a moment’s notice. (both laugh)
JIM: Okay. From the number of stories I see in the paper about sexual matters, I wondered if, in this time frame, we are experiencing an energy wave addressed to sexuality. Are we?
ELIAS: Not yet.
JIM: Not yet. Okay. I recently read your explanation of orgasms and found my understanding matches your explanation. Is this natural function more subject to modification or suppression by beliefs than other natural body functions? It seems that way to me.
ELIAS: Yes, I would agree, for there are strongly expressed beliefs in relation to sexual activity, which can be very influencing.
JIM: Yes. My impression is that feelings of guilt in relation to sexual matters are a major stumbling block to experience of orgasms. Is that right?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Whether experienced directly through religious organizations or handed down from parents, relatives or friends, are religions teachings the primary source of these guilt feelings?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: The belief that some means of attaining the experience of orgasm are wrong is unnecessarily limiting, isn’t it?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: To what extent is fear involved in suppressing not only the orgasms themselves, but also the desire to experience them?
ELIAS: Generally speaking, I would express that fear is a significant factor.
JIM: Fear, yes. Alright. In one or more probable realities, does Jeanette turn her life around in spite of her injuries?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Do my projections of energy help her with that? I would like very much for that to be the case.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
JIM: I feel that she participates with others in helping people with injuries such as her own. Is that a valid feeling?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Is Nohara the essence name shared by Maia Hammond and Nohara?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Is Nohara of Milumet essence family?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Does Maia align Vold, intermediate orientation, political focus?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Does Nohara align Borledim, soft orientation, emotional focus?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Is Roy Gott a focus of Hardy?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: He seems very familiar to me. We shared lives [unintelligible] lives together…?
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.
JIM: Does he align Gramada, common orientation, thought focused?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Did I create my computer browser problem in order to draw Roy to me?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Is Meyer Lansky a focus of Cuit?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Does my focus, Boris Azarov, align Zuli, common orientation and emotional focus?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Is the focus of Poalite who works as a nurse in MedNow aligned Borledim?
ELIAS: Yes.
JIM: Is Monica the first name of the focus of Patmae whose surname is Salisar?
ELIAS: Correct.
JIM: Last question. When I see a green splotch in my inner vision, is that Ordin’s energy?
ELIAS: No.
JIM: No?
ELIAS: It’s Otha.
JIM: Who is it?
ELIAS: Otha.
JIM: Ossa? O-S-S-A?
ELIAS: O-T-H-A.
JIM: Oh, Otha. O-T-H-A. Ah! Alright. That’s it, Elias. I thank you very, very much. I’ve run over time, though, as far as Mary goes.
ELIAS: (laughs)
JIM: Oh, dear! I’m going to get scolded.
ELIAS: (Cracks up) I incorporate significant doubt in that association. (laughs heartily)
JIM: Well, I’ll be looking forward to talking with you again sometime.
ELIAS: Very well, my friend. I express tremendous appreciation to you and dear lovingness in tremendous friendship. Au revoir.
JIM: Au revoir.
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