Overcoming Advanced Discounting and Defeat
Topics:
"Overcoming Advanced Discounting and Defeat"
"Allowing Yourself to Express and Connect For Support Is Important"
"Generating Associations and Creating Shrines"
"Acknowledge Your Accomplishments"
Session 200703011 (2210)
"Overcoming Advanced Discounting and Defeat"
"Allowing Yourself to Express and Connect For Support Is Important"
"Generating Associations and Creating Shrines"
"Acknowledge Your Accomplishments"
Thursday, March 1, 2007 (Private)
Participants: Mary (Michael)and Terri (Uliva)
ELIAS: Good morning!
TERRI: Good morning!
ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what shall we discuss?
TERRI: Well, I was kind of just thinking about that, because I always want to make the best use of my time. I had this hysterical breakdown so I wanted to say what I thought about that, but I know everything's interconnected, so I'm wondering if what Mary was telling me, if you have some comment there that maybe that's part of it too.
So let me start with that whole week. And I figured that my Valentine's Day triggered it, but I wrote down: "Was the crying more of an energy stress release balancing out the panicking, and on another level I had more of a knowing that in the past it would be okay because I was noticing the signs because I didn't start bleeding so I kept thinking okay, maybe I'm not under a lot of stress, this is more of an energy release, because it did feel like a different type of panic than in the past?"
ELIAS: I would express to you that yes, there was a release of energy, and that is one factor. I would also express to you that the reason it appears different to you is that you are generating a different perception; you are noticing more. And in that, you are becoming more familiar with yourself and with your body consciousness; therefore, you perceive it differently, and you listen differently. And when you listen differently, that alters how you feel.
In that, one factor is that in the midst of feeling out of control you also feel somewhat IN control, for you recognizes that in the out-of-controlness you will recover yourself.
TERRI: Right.
ELIAS: That is a significant difference, for previously when you generated what you term to be a panic attack, or you were generating that overwhelm, you were experiencing that to an extent in which you heard no inner knowing that you will recover.
TERRI: Right. Because I kept getting some powerful signs, I thought, but then I really got myself into a fix because I was watching "The Matrix" and I was like, "Oh my god, what if Elias is like The Oracle and he's just telling me what I want to hear?" and then I completely lost it. I completely lost it and I'm like all right, I really need to get a grip here. (Chuckles).
ELIAS: And I would express to you a reminder: Many times when you and I engage conversation, I express information that you do not necessarily want to hear.
TERRI: Right.
ELIAS: Therefore, you can assure yourself that I am not merely expressing what you want to hear. (Chuckles)
TERRI: Okay, because I was like "I can't do that, because that just really probably…" But then Mary was just, the conversation she was just having to me about Donnalie, when the therapist said "Open your eyes, how do you feel?" and she said she felt fuzzy or dizzy, and I feel like I'm in that space almost constantly with my vision and with my head. I just don't feel like I'm all the way here. Was she bringing that up, or…?
ELIAS: There are no coincidences and no accidents. And I will express to you, as I previously encouraged you, to periodically engage Michael. When you do, you are specifically drawing information to yourself in that element of timing. And in that, I will express to you an acknowledgement of what you are actually doing, for at times Michael actually may be generating conversation with you and not necessarily be aware of what is being expressed that you are connecting to.
TERRI: Right. Because I've never talked to her about that before.
ELIAS: Therefore, this is an acknowledgement to you that you are choosing moments in which you engage Michael specifically, for in those moments you are drawing information to yourself that will be valuable for you individually. Regardless of whether Michael understands, what is being expressed or how you are receiving it or not, you are specifically pulling to yourself new information that you can translate and that will be helpful to you.
I have expressed this several times previously but I will reiterate now: This is one of the reasons that I have chosen Michael to participate in this energy exchange, for he generates a different expression of the information that I offer. And many times, individuals within your physical focus understand but also feel a connection physically if they are engaging another individual.
TERRI: So how do I fix the fuzziness? Part of it's a matter of relaxing, because I know the vision is one of my stress meters.
ELIAS: Yes.
TERRI: And I was working on that this morning when I was hiking, because I could feel the tension in my neck, and I know it's because I have this fear that the sales job, that I'm not going to sell anything because it's going to be alternate living spaces. So I was trying to relax and reassure myself that I got the last piece last time, just remember my calm assertive energy and that I do know what I'm doing, and it seemed to help.
ELIAS: And recognize that expression, that automatic apprehension – which you did notice. But let me express to you, at times when you notice this type of feeling and this type of thinking which is moving in a direction of advanced defeat, you attempt to correct that in attempting to relax and acknowledging that you have noticed, but at times you match the expression of the advance defeat with a forcing of attempting to relax.
Now; let me express to you, when you notice that this is occurring again, and you are defeating yourself and discounting yourself before you even attempt, notice this in a different manner. Notice it in a manner as if it were an entity itself, and this entity that you have noticed has sprung towards you from behind another object to intentionally startle you, and it did. And it accomplished, and you were startled, and now you can laugh it, just as you would if another individual startled you.
TERRI: I kind of got the feeling that that's what Sassy was trying to tell me this morning. She was really playful this morning, and it kind of reminds me of that expression to laugh at it, to be playful with it.
ELIAS: Yes.
TERRI: So I kind of got a message that she was giving me the message for the day: to have fun, to laugh at it.
ELIAS: Yes.
TERRI: Okay.
ELIAS: This is important, for when another individual unexpectedly startles you, your initial reaction is to jump, is to be frightened, but it is a momentary fear, literally. And once you recognize that you were startled, generally speaking you will immediately address to the situation and express, "Oh my, you have startled me." And in that action what you do is, when you are startled you jump and you do what?
TERRI: My heart jumps.
ELIAS: And you gasp and you [draws breath in sharply] – you draw in breath. Once you address to that momentary fear of being startled and you express "Oh my, you have startled me," your body consciousness automatically and immediately relaxes, and in the expression of "Oh my, you have startled me," you force out energy; you breathe out. And in that moment, your perception immediately changes, and generally speaking you will respond with humor, and you and the other individual will laugh.
In this, there is no other individual, but the energy that is overtaking you, so to speak, can be perceived in the same manner. It has jumped towards you, it has startled you in the moment, you are generating the same action as gasping, for your body consciousness immediately becomes tense, and as you turn round and address to that entity that startled you, that advanced discounting and defeat, you can breathe out and you can even actually express to what you view to be the air, "Ah ha! You caught me, but I see you."
TERRI: And that will help with the fuzziness too? (Laughs)
ELIAS: It is a beginning.
TERRI: Okay.
ELIAS: You are correct, it is a matter of relaxing, but this is a manner in which you can initiate that relaxing in a different manner and perhaps be more immediately successful.
In this, let me express to you also, what you are presenting to yourself now – which is also the reason that these episodes, so to speak, feel different – is that you are allowing yourself more information and becoming more aware of your own associations. This is also important, for this will also be helpful in generating more clarity. The reason that your vision is askew and that you generate this tension and you create these scenarios in which you feel somewhat out of control and defeated is that you generate certain associations with certain experiences, which is not uncommon.
TERRI: And that is exactly what Mary was just saying.
ELIAS: Yes. And in that, when you generate certain associations, you can trigger those associations. When you hold to your energy, that creates the ongoing association, which creates patterns. These are what I have expressed previously as shrines, which I am aware of many individuals even now do not quite understand. These shrines are built from experiences that you incorporate that are not addressed to and continue to be held for extended time frameworks; therefore, they are always present, and they can be easily triggered.
TERRI: So would the shrine have to do with my father?
ELIAS: I would express that there are more than one. But yes, that would be one.
TERRI: And around men and relationships? Because the whole thing seemed to...
ELIAS: Yes, it is interconnected and interrelated in that it is not merely your father and that one event but how you generate an association.
TERRI: About men.
ELIAS: Yes. And in that, this is what creates the shrine. And as I have expressed previously in relation to shrines, each experience that you generate that reinforces that association becomes another jewel in the shrine and it grows.
TERRI: And that's why Valentine's Day triggered it. I didn't even really realize it. I realized it later.
ELIAS: But you did realize it.
TERRI: I guess I just didn't think that it was that that important to me. It surprised me.
ELIAS: Correct.
TERRI: Yes.
ELIAS: But you did see, in this experience.
TERRI: I just had this feeling that this is what it feels like to be born, because I was so overwhelmed and so confused and didn't know which way I was going. I was like, "This must be what a baby feels like when it's born." (Chuckles) But I kind of like that, because it kind of was imagery to me that I'm being born.
ELIAS: And so you are.
TERRI: That's cool. (Laughs) And I kinda held onto that. And it seemed like as soon as I talked to Mary, everything started turning around. You know, I got the feeling that everything was moving in that direction anyways, but that release of just telling somebody.
ELIAS: Yes.
TERRI: So I need to do that.
ELIAS: Yes. Allowing yourself to express and connect is important, for what you are doing in that action is allowing yourself a source of supportiveness. You are supporting yourself, and you are allowing yourself to receive support from another individual, and this is important.
TERRI: I didn't really realize how important that was either, but I did get that, that I need people more than I thought I needed people. And because I love it so much up here, it was kind of masked. If I was miserable up here, I would have caught all that. I would have been like, "Oh, I'm missing going out, I'm missing my friends, I'm missing these people," but because I love it so much up here it kinda masked it, is what I thought.
ELIAS: Yes. I would agree.
TERRI: So, this is my first day with this new job, and I'm thinking that I just need to have fun with it and relax and just know that everything that I've done up until now is going to help me be successful here.
ELIAS: Yes. And acknowledge yourself.
TERRI: Is there something I can do not to worry so much?
ELIAS: (Chuckles) Remind yourself of what you have accomplished, and especially in THIS time framework, THIS now, remind yourself of what you have offered to yourself and what you have accomplished within this short time framework since our previous conversation. You have offered yourself many experiences, and what have you done? You have accomplished. For in this day that you are engaging conversation with myself once again, you HAVE recovered yourself, and you HAVE accomplished, and you have weathered the storm.
TERRI: Before, it took a lot longer to recover. (Laughs)
ELIAS: It is important to acknowledge yourself, my friend, that you have accomplished, you are offering yourself information, and also to remind yourself not to minimize what you are presenting to yourself.
TERRI: As far as signs?
ELIAS: And also what you recognize – such as recognizing that you incorporated a trigger in relation to your St. Valentine's Day but minimizing that and expressing to yourself that you did not view that to be so very important. It is not necessarily the day; it is the association of what it means. And that is important, and not to minimize that – not to minimize your action of supporting yourself and allowing yourself to receive support in generating that connection with Michael; not minimizing information that you present to yourself recognizing the importance of it. And recognizing the significance and the importance of each of the triggers, for they are more important in your associations than you offer credit to them, and that becomes a snare. For if they are not important, you pay less attention to them.
Remember: Previously we discussed the importance of importance (Terri laughs) in a manner of generating less importance with certain expressions, but in the reverse, it is significant that you DO generate an association of importance with some expressions, for that will allow you to pay attention to them more and therefore address to them. Triggers associated with shrines are generally viewed by most individuals as not important or not significant, and this is the reason that they create patterns. For if they are not important or if they are not significant, you will pay little attention to them and you will continue these patterns.
TERRI: And this is all tied in with Shawn, too?
ELIAS: Yes.
TERRI: Because I know I'm still working on that.
ELIAS: Yes.
TERRI: Okay. Well, that's the end of my half an hour.
ELIAS: Very well. I shall be anticipating our next meeting and encouraging of you.
TERRI: Thank you. I can always use encouragement. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: Very well, my friend, my energy is with you always in supportiveness. I express great appreciation to you and great lovingness. Au revoir.
TERRI: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 30 minutes)
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