Wednesday, September 27, 2006 (Private/Phone)


Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jean-Baptiste (Araili)

ELIAS: Good evening!

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Good evening, Elias. How are you?

ELIAS: As always. And yourself?

JEAN-BAPTISTE: As always, also. (Elias laughs) Today I have another individual with me. It’s Eric, who wants to ask you some questions.

ELIAS: Very well. What...

JEAN-BAPTISTE: We will take the session in two parts, one where I will ask questions to you and one where he will ask questions.

ELIAS: Very well.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: So I’ll begin with some stuff for my sister Delphine, whose essence name is Tapasee. She wants to know her focus color and essence color.

ELIAS: And the impressions?

JEAN-BAPTISTE: I don’t remember. She gave me an impression but ... Actually she did. I remember that she did, but I don’t remember what she told me. No, I don’t remember. (Elias chuckles) But my own impressions are that she may have a kind of purple in focus color.

ELIAS: Correct. Lavender.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Lavender? Okay. And essence color—I think it’s kind of blue.

ELIAS: Correct. A light blue.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: What kind of...? Light...

ELIAS: Yes. Light blue.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Light blue. Thank you. She also wants to know her focus animal and essence animal.

ELIAS: The...

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Her impressions... maybe a giraffe. Or is giraffe the essence or focus animal of my little sister, whose essence name is Meta?

ELIAS: That would be more associated with that individual.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. So to my sister Delphine, what is her focus animal, please?

ELIAS: The creature that would be most closely associated with her focus would be a rabbit.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: A rabbit. Okay.

ELIAS: The creature that would be most closely associated with her essence would be a leopard.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Leopard. Great. And for my little sister, is the giraffe her focus animal or essence animal?

ELIAS: Focus.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. And essence animal will be?

ELIAS: That would be a mongoose.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: A what?

ELIAS: A mongoose.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Mongoose. Great! Okay. My friend, Léo—essence name Dywan—what is his animal, focus animal. I think he is related to the lion, but we don’t know why. Is he really related to lions, or…?

ELIAS: Hyena.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Can you spell it?


ELIAS: The enemy of the lion. The hyena.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I understand. It’s his focus animal?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: And his essence animal?

ELIAS: Would be a shark.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Shark. Okay. I think he was thinking about that.
My friend Annu. We had experiences with butterflies lately and we want to know what it is about. Is it related to my essence showing us butterflies or...?

ELIAS: No. It is...

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay.

ELIAS: ... associated with my energy.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Oh great! She will be very, very happy. (Elias laughs) So is her focus color yellow?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. What is her essence color?

ELIAS: Sea green.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: In green?

ELIAS: Sea green.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. For animals, I have the impression of a bear.

ELIAS: That would be the essence.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Essence. Okay. A deer. A female deer.

ELIAS: Correct.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay, for focus. I want to know what is my connection with Anubis, because I feel very close to this Egyptian god.

ELIAS: This would be associated with a focus that you incorporate that was very concentrated upon the interaction with and worship of this god.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. That is very interesting. So now I’ll talk about my own experiences since the last time we spoke. As you know, I am very interested in energy centers and how I can use them and be familiar with them.
I had an experience when I was at work of... I think it was a mergence with Baser, the essence I told you about. And I was like one or two days feeling very, very different from my usual aspects. And I think I changed something, like primary aspect or something like that. Can you tell me more about that?

ELIAS: I will express to you, you have not altered your primary aspect. What you have allowed yourself is an experience of mergence, which can generate differences in perception. And that can create alterations in how you view yourself or your world or other individuals, and it can generate a different feeling. And it can also engage different qualities of yourself that you may not have expressed previously. And in that, it can also open your awareness somewhat more, in which you begin noticing more of what is occurring around you. It allows you more of an openness to evaluation.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I’ve been very, very involved in evaluation, actually. Evaluation of what I was actually feeling and experiencing, and not only about thinking about it, and analyzing that only with my rational aspect.
Actually, I found out that it was very, very difficult or very, very different from my habits in this field. I was very confused about what I was actually doing. As an example, when I’m checking with friends through MSN or Messenger, I can connect very, very quickly and intensely with them. And mostly it manifests in my blue energy center, but beyond that, I think that I can’t just gain or get information.
Actually, it’s difficult for me just to move my attention to the information I want to... information I want. Can you express to me what I’m doing in these situations? Just like experiencing the intensity of the connection, and not very interested in the other information? Or is it because I’m just holding back myself from this connection because of one of my truths about consideration, or some other influence is connected to this truth?

ELIAS: Partially, but not entirely. In actuality, this is not an expression that you are actually hindering yourself. It is more associated with exploring and evaluating energies and becoming more familiar with that. Therefore, your attention moves more directly to the connection, rather than the actual interaction.
For in this, you are allowing yourself, in this time framework, to become more familiar with other energies and viewing the connection in that, which will be helpful to you in generating more clarity in relation to your guidelines and recognizing that the expressions of other individuals are not necessarily intended to trigger your guidelines, but that you automatically FILTER the expressions of other individuals THROUGH those guidelines.
In recognizing the difference in energy and in also recognizing the connection, this will be helpful in lessening the feeling of aloneness that can and often does occur in this process, temporarily, with individuals. As you become more and more familiar with yourself and with your own guidelines, there is an expressed tendency to feel more separated or alone for a time framework. Therefore, in allowing yourself to be paying attention to the connections, and not necessarily generating as much interest in the interaction itself, temporarily, that may be helpful to you in lessening that feeling of aloneness or separation.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. Because actually when I was doing these connections with them, it was at times... Mainly, actually, it is difficult for me to really recognize if, in a manner of speaking, it is my own energy or it is their energy.
I had an experience a few days ago, maybe last week or a little bit earlier, where I wanted to connect with my focus, Floin, who you told me is very ... knows how to use and manipulate his energy centers. And when I just let the experience occur, it was like the intensity of my energy centers varied without me thinking about them, and I was also feeling that it was me that was doing that, and not only Floin or another essence or... But that I didn’t incorporate any thought process doing that.

ELIAS: I am understanding. This is an allowance. And in that, it IS you that is generating the experience and manipulating the energy. But you are also allowing the energy from the other focus to be supportive, which allows you to move with more ease.
And in that, it does not require tremendous effort or even a thought process. For it is not necessary to engage thought to generate movement and to manipulate energy. Thought is not what is creating the action and thought is not what is directing the action. Thought merely serves as a translator in relation to the action that is being expressed. Therefore it follows what you are doing and interprets that into language to allow you more clarity as to what you are actually doing.
But it is not necessary to engage that mechanism within the actual action of manipulating the energy. And the offering of energy or the participation of the other focus merely allows you to generate more easily and with less effort. But it is YOU that is manipulating the energy.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. Were you involved in this exchange or experience?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Yes. I felt that. I want also to know... that actually when I’m concentrating or focusing upon my energy centers, I use more of my feelings than actually the colors or... It’s more like a feeling of the quality of the energy center than any colors or visualization. Like, it is not necessary for me to use the frequency seeing colors to feel the energy centers or to allow me to manipulate them subjectively.

ELIAS: I am understanding. And this is quite acceptable, for each individual may engage the energy centers in whatever manner is the most efficient and effective and comfortable for themself. It is not necessary to visualize or to actually incorporate the actual colors, for you can connect with and feel the energy and the movement of the energy centers, regardless of whether you are engaging a visualization or not.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I also wanted to know if I’m incorporating a direction that helps me to incorporate... No, I wanted to know about the line of probability I am creating around me, if it’s creating of my shape-shifting interest or... Are you understanding of what I am trying to express?

ELIAS: Yes. In this, as you continue to explore energy and become more familiar with the different expressions of energy and manipulating it, yes, that does serve as a practice and an avenue in which you can proceed in the direction that you want, in association with this subject matter. For that is the action of it, is manipulating energy in different manners to create different forms.
Therefore, as you continue to allow yourself to become more and more familiar with manipulating energy in different manners, that will be helpful to you in your understanding of how to be manipulating energy in relation to form.
Which, as you continue to practice with energy and you continue to become more and more familiar with it, you can actually begin to practice with the manipulation of energy in altering the form of a plant.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: A plant?

ELIAS: Yes. For plants are very receptive to interactive energy. And they also provide an easier avenue of manipulating energy. It may be easier for you to begin practicing with a plant than with a solid object that you view to be inanimate.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. In this respect, I also wanted to... I just forgot this. So I’ll go in another direction. My friend Annu also is very, very focused on her condition—her kidneys and the apparent illness and what she’s creating in this area. And we spoke a lot about it yesterday. And though she’s very creative in other areas of her life, there is still this part of her body that is hindering herself or appears to hinder herself. Though she told me this morning that she still feels that... She asked me to ask you, actually, if she was doing well in the creation of a probability where she un-creates this condition.

ELIAS: She is moving more strongly in that direction. But as we discussed previously, I shall reiterate and remind you that a significant factor in this situation is her concentration, and that she continues to express a strong concentration in this direction. And she continues to express an opposition of it, and that perpetuates the concentration.
I will acknowledge that she is generating less opposition and that she is generating movement in the direction of altering this dis-ease. But once again, the most significant factor is to be addressing to the concentration, and to be moving in the expression of acknowledging and accepting what has been created, and therefore allowing herself to generate different choices and create differently.
As she continues to focus upon the lack of acceptance and acknowledgement of what has been created, that blocks her ability to alter it. I am acknowledging that she is generating movement in increments, but this particular point is important.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. And what can help her, in this direction? As in maybe an exercise or something that can distract her from this concentration, in the lack of acceptance, her separation from her kidneys?

ELIAS: Perhaps I shall offer an exercise that she can engage. In this, rather than attempting to distract herself in other directions, you may express to her to move her attention TO her kidneys, to focus her attention upon her kidneys and what they are doing, how they are functioning, whether she deems that function to be good or bad, but to focus her attention upon this organ and to genuinely pay attention to what they are actually doing and how they are functioning.
Now; in that, once genuinely paying attention, she may allow herself to speak to these organs, figuratively. It is not necessary to audibly speak, but to speak to them and to express the acknowledgement of their functioning in whatever it is, to allow herself in this action to relax and to be aware of not struggling and not opposing. Not expressing, “I do not like this. I do not want this.” But also not expressing, “I do want this.”

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Yes. Just being aware of what is occurring and what she is doing.

ELIAS: Yes. And acknowledging that. Recognizing that this is what is occurring. And in this, generate this exercise three to four times within each day. It does not require a lengthy interaction, merely a momentary pause in which she moves her attention fully to her kidneys, and not allowing any distraction, and acknowledging their function.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. Thank you very much for this exercise. We go now in the second part of the session. I’ll ask you some questions for Eric. It is scientific questions about mainly the relativity theory—different things he has in mind. Okay?

ELIAS: Very well.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: I’ll read you first something he wrote. And when I say, “I,” I will say it as I am Eric, okay?

ELIAS: Very well.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: I’m not very happy, Elias, with the Einstein relativity. Although this theory gave excellent results, I’m not in peace with it. First, we must conciliate classic mechanic, Newtonian mechanic, with Maxwell electromagnetism. (inaudible) take it that all natural frame, equivalent Maxwell, but it exists, a spatial frame, a medium that brings the provocation of the electromagnetic wave; the ether. So can we consider these two theories in a different way than Einstein made, since an experiment can give a positive result in revealing the existence of the spatial frame, the ether?

ELIAS: First of all, I would be acknowledging and agree that although Einstein’s theories have yielded openings to other explorations, they are not entirely correct. And as to the exploration of what you term to be the ether—what I would term to be consciousness—you are also correct. There are many avenues or experiments that you can engage that will yield positive results but will not necessarily offer you any more conclusive information in relation to consciousness than you are already aware of.
But in this, it is a matter of first of all recognizing that you are not engaging THINGS. That is the most significant deviation from the usual explorations in association with science. For, generally speaking, you generate explorations in association with what is KNOWN in your reality. And there is much that is known within your reality, but there is much beyond your reality that is not necessarily objectively known to you. It is incorporated in a KNOWING within each of you, which is an element of the remembrance of your self and of consciousness. But it is not necessarily expressed in association with what is objectively KNOWN within your physical reality.
Now; in this, as I have expressed, the most significant factor in the exploration is to be generating the approach of not exploring THINGS. For consciousness, or what you are expressing as the ether, is not a thing. This is what creates the confusion and much speculation. For science moves in the direction of attempting to define what it is, rather than what is occurring. The “it” is the snare. For it is not an “it.” And in that, as you continue to attempt to experiment with and explore the aspect of “it,” you continue to elude yourselves. For it is an action, not a thing.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. We’ll go to the next question. Eric wrote: Electromagnetism and mechanics must be reconciled to reveal the consciousness, and one must reveal the assessed speed relativities to the consciousness. It’s translating oddly when I just put “consciousness” in place of “ether.”
So there is the question. All the experiments that are looking for revealing this speed failed. The failure of ether drift experiments led to the relativity principle. What are the causes of these failures? Maybe I think you already spoke about it partly, in expressing that it is not an “it” and more an action.

ELIAS: Yes. You are correct.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: But if there are more...

ELIAS: You are correct. And this also is associated with energy. Energy is not a thing, either. It is an action. And in this, what is being attempted to be isolated is energy as a thing.
You are attempting to evaluate and calculate and process and categorize energy, and the speed and movement of it, but focusing upon it as a thing, rather than the movement itself. You are attempting to measure (chuckles) what the measure is! In a manner of speaking, what science is attempting to generate is measuring the measurement.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. This is quite funny, actually. (Elias laughs) Is there a direction in experimentation or experiencing that we can use to stress the motion of the earth or maybe to...? Maybe I will translate that: Is there an experiencing or different—not exercises but experiments—that we can incorporate to experience this motion and this action of consciousness and energy?

ELIAS: In association with your planet?

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Yes, it is actually the center point of the question.

ELIAS: In what capacity?

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Actually, the question was first about the motion of the earth from... relativity to the ether. Is there any meaning to this question in relation to what you just told us before, concerning ether being consciousness and an action and not a thing? Can we, in a manner of speaking, measure the movement of an action or...?

ELIAS: I am understanding. (Pause) Yes, you can. But that also would somewhat require approaching the equation, so to speak, in a very different direction, in the recognition that your planet and all physical manifestations are also consciousness.
(Very slowly and deliberately) In that, it is the involvement and association with consciousness as an action, engaging the manipulation of time to slow the action of consciousness to such an extent that it can’t transform the action into form. The slowing of consciousness generates tremendous energy.
And in that, the more that you slow the action of consciousness in association with the manipulation of time in the linear expression, the greater the concentration of energy, which is expressed in mass.
Therefore, in association with your planet, this is a tremendous slowing of consciousness—of the ACTION of consciousness—in association with the manipulation of linear time that allows for the creation of this tremendous mass, which incorporates tremendous energy. For the larger the mass, the greater the energy is to produce it, in association with the action of consciousness and the incorporation of time. Time is a significant factor. For without time, physical manifestations are not created.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. The next question is about the famous experiment from Michelson and Morley. Eric wants to know if there is a flaw in this approach? Is it related to the manner, as you say to us, that we are approaching consciousness and matter and everything as a thing? Or...?

ELIAS: Somewhat. It is somewhat less rigid. And therefore, provides somewhat more of an avenue in which to explore the relationship of the action of consciousness and the expression or factor of time.
Also, let me express to you, in association with this direction of THINGS, there is also a great association with PLACES, or PLACEMENT. Which also diverts you from the more accurate avenue of discovery, in relation to consciousness and what it creates.
For science, in expressing what is known, generates a strong association with places or placement. Therefore, when you conduct experiments that may be somewhat indicative of different dimensions, there is some misinterpretation at times. For what may appear to disappear and be PLACED in another area, another dimension, or another PLACE, may in actuality merely be disappeared. Which is the expression of “it exists and now it is non-existent.”
Once energy has been generated into a thing, science generates the association that it is always a thing, in some form. Which is not accurate. For you can generate the manipulation of energy through consciousness, in association with time, and create a thing. You can also extract that thing from physical manifestation and it may not exist any longer. It is not an absolute. It is not a permanent.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. Eric wants me to ask another question about the relativity of time. He wants you to elaborate on the details of this theory.

ELIAS: In what capacity?

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. Eric tells me that it’s more about what time is actually in our reality and in other dimensions. And you said that it is a slowing of energy...

ELIAS: No.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: ... of consciousness...

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: ... that is incorporating a tremendous amount of energy to it. Can you elaborate on that?

ELIAS: Consciousness is an action that incorporates a vibrational quality. And in that vibrational quality, in your terms, there can be the association of speed or rapidness of the motion. For the vibrational quality can be associated with rapid movement. But remember, we are incorporating the idea of action with no THING. Therefore, action is the essence of consciousness.
Now; that action, in its vibrational quality, can be associated as a very fast or rapid movement. In actuality, it may be so rapid that ANY manifestation—even an atom—is a considerable slowing of that action, in order for it to incorporate an association with time in any form.
For time incorporates a thickness. And the expression of time in any form is considerably slow, in association with the movement of consciousness. Therefore, time becomes a type of catalyst that glues energy into forms. Which in actuality may be of some interest to you also, for you incorporate the fascination with shape-shifting, and this is a factor. For form is created by the incorporation of time, and slowing consciousness to allow it to incorporate a physical manifestation. The energy is configured in certain manners to allow it to take form.
Now; in this, if you are exploring energy and remembering that what your exploration consists of is action—not actual manifestations—you can actually begin to recognize how to view the movement of energy.
I can express to you; you can visually see. You can engage your actual physical outer senses within your reality, and if allowing yourself to de-focus somewhat, you can actually see through the solidity of physical manifestations, and view the movement and view the action.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. So physical senses can be like tools we can use to do our own experimentations in these scientific areas?

ELIAS: Yes. And also, the recognition of the powerfulness of perception. For perception is another VERY important factor. For perception also is involved in the actual formation of physical reality. Which, perception is a mechanism of the objective awareness.
Without objective awareness, without perception, it matters not that you may incorporate time and slow consciousness. That in itself will not create physical manifestations. It incorporates the potential, and it can direct the energy to express the potential for any physical manifestation. But what actually generates it into physical reality is perception.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I’ll ask you another question. Eric wants to know if he is on the right track, so maybe if he is creating the line of probability to get the united theory in his research? Are you understanding?

ELIAS: Yes, I am understanding. I would be encouraging. As to the question are you upon the right track or moving in the right direction, you are moving in a direction which can yield the information that you want or that you are seeking. There are many avenues. But yes, the direction that you are moving in can generate successful outcome.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. Thank you very much for all this information.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: It’s time to Mary, to get.

ELIAS: (Laughs) You are very welcome, my friends. And I express great encouragement to you each in your exploration.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Thank you. Thank you again.

ELIAS: I also express great supportiveness. Perhaps you shall be our new Einsteins. (Chuckles)

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay.

ELIAS: To you in great appreciation, dear friendship and tremendous lovingness, au revoir.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Au revoir, my friend.

(Elias departs after 1 hour 4 minutes.)

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