Setting an Intent when Experiencing the Pulsations of Consciousness
Topics:
“Assessing Progress”
“The Subjective, Objective, Mind and Essence”
“Setting an Intent when Experiencing the Pulsations of Consciousness”
Sunday, December 21, 2025 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Nuno (Lystell)
ELIAS: Good morning!
NUNO: Hello, my dear friend.
ELIAS: Aha! And how shall we begin this morning?
NUNO: Oh, I’ve just got some various questions and I’d like to start with: how can I assess my progress?
ELIAS: (Pause) I’d say (pause) by paying attention to your body. That how you feel in your body should be an indicator of how you’re proceeding. Meaning that if parts of your body feel more sluggish, that would definitely be an indicator.
NUNO: I think I’m pretty sluggish all over now.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) Ah! That is actually a good indicator.
NUNO: I was just saying to Michael a little while ago that that’s the most challenging piece in all of this for me by far, is the uncertainty. And if it was possible for me to have some kind of date, like for example if I knew with reasonable certainty that within eighteen months even I would be done with this, then I could just relax and not be concerned about it. I mean, not that I’m very concerned about it but it’s just unsettling to not have any definitive idea of how long this is going to go for. And that’s the biggest challenge for me, actually.
ELIAS: I understand. I would say that that’s likely the biggest challenge that most individuals have in relation to whatever they’re doing that entails time, and they don’t have a clear picture of what that time framework is.
NUNO: That’s what it is, and it’s something that I’m not very easy with but I guess that’s just the way it is.
We were talking last time about a couple of dreams I had during the coma and we talked quite a bit about the dreams, but there was one piece in that though that I forgot to mention. And that’s that, in that occasion after I woke up I was very, very drained of energy, exceptionally so. I felt… I was so drained, I was almost certain that I was going to disengage and that feeling of being drained and being exhausted persisted for hours afterwards. And what I was wondering is, what caused that? I don’t understand why that particular engagement with the essence had that profound effect. And this was even during the day, which – in the morning, actually – which usually doesn’t affect me as much as at night. If you had any insights into that—
ELIAS: I’d say that that’s very much in keeping with your first question and me expressing to yourself that it’s a matter of paying attention to your body. And that feeling of sluggishness or… it can almost feel as though you are generating some type of illness, because different parts of your body are shutting down more. And in that, I’d say that that was definitely what you were experiencing.
NUNO: Yes, but what I’m asking is: why that one time? Did I do anything different? That’s what I’m trying to figure out, was there anything different that I did?
ELIAS: No, I wouldn’t say that you had done something different. I’d say that it more was (pause) an accumulation of moving in that direction. Therefore what I’d say to you is at times, not all the time but at times, it is likely that you will feel that because that is an accumulation of what is happening with that other essence and therefore I’d say that it’s very likely that you will feel that at different times.
NUNO: But in engaging that other essence, the only thing that other essence is doing is putting me in a coma. The… Whatever else —
ELIAS: But what is important to understand about that is that putting your body into a coma, it does have an effect physically in relation to shutting down, not entirely, but moving in the direction of shutting down organs. And therefore accumulatively, at different times you would feel that the next day and it might last even the entire day.
NUNO: Is that why that process is affecting me physiologically? Is that the answer to that question?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: I suppose I should ask you this. How much progress do you see having been made? I mean, can this be quantified in any way?
ELIAS: (Pause) I’d say that it’s a good amount of progress in that the functioning of your organs has depleted considerably. Not to the point in which you would be experiencing discomfort all the time, but similar to reducing your heartrate, which you’re familiar with. Your heart doesn’t necessarily hurt when you do that, but it’s definitely something that is not optimal for life in general, as you know. And in that, it’s the same with other organs. I’d say also another piece that you can gauge with is that your physical brain will seem foggy. And the more often you experience that fogginess, that’s definitely a strong indicator of the effects of the progress that you’re making in relation to shutting down.
NUNO: What would you do, if you were in my shoes?
ELIAS: That’s an interesting question. (Pause) If I were in your position, after this amount of time working in this direction, I’d likely opt to engage some method to speed the process along.
NUNO: Such as?
ELIAS: Mm. I’d likely engage some type of medication that would actually shut down my organs faster.
NUNO: I don’t have access to that. It would require a prescription.
ELIAS: Ah.
NUNO: I did look at the antihistamines and all of that, but…
ELIAS: Repeat.
NUNO: I said I did look into antihistamines and things like that but from your description of that, it sounds very nasty.
ELIAS: I would agree. Yes, I would definitely not move in that direction.
NUNO: The difficulty is I just don’t have access to those kinds of medications. I would be interested in them, but I don’t have access to them.
ELIAS: Understandable. Although I’d say that if you want to move in that type of direction enough, you will find a way.
NUNO: I did double my blood pressure medication and that helped a little bit, I think.
ELIAS: Ah.
NUNO: That’s about all I can do with that, I think. I don’t really like medications but I would consider them, but I have yet to find anything that’s useful. I found THC actually works quite well in slowing me down and calming me, especially if I take it at night, so I’ve been using that. I think the essence told me that that was helpful in that.
ELIAS: I would agree.
NUNO: And so I’ve been engaging that more frequently. What is the easiest way for me to go into a deep state of relaxation?
ELIAS: (Pause) Hm. (Pause) I’d say (pause) likely in a meditation and focusing in the meditation on your body, and relaxing every aspect of your body.
NUNO: Now in that, I actually had a question in that. I engage Julian quite frequently, easily throughout the day. And you had mentioned that that essence, its main purpose I guess you would say in engaging me would be for relaxation, although I think the essence helps me in other ways too. But then I thought of Ahmal, which you had told me at one time that was that essence’s specialty, was relaxation and meditation. So between those two, what would you say would be most effective for relaxation, to engage? Which essence?
ELIAS: The latter.
NUNO: Ahmal?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Okay. I will do that then. All right. The reason I’m asking this is because I’m still quite intrigued about that direction that you spoke of, in which I could go into a very deep relaxation state and with a slow heartbeat, and it’s conceptually so simple that I would like to see where I can go with that.
ELIAS: Correct. Because that would be a matter of slowing your breathing to the point in which you actually stop.
NUNO: Now would that only work while I’m awake?
ELIAS: No. I’d say you could do that while you are sleeping. It’s a little more challenging when you’re sleeping unless you are adept at lucid dreaming. If you are, then it would be actually easier than when you’re awake.
NUNO: Yeah, I’m not very adept at lucid dreaming. When it happens, it’s not deliberate.
I was wondering about Vicky. Did she deliberately manifest pneumonia or is that…? In other words, was she objectively aware that that’s what she was doing?
ELIAS: Yes and no. Meaning that was she aware that it was developing in that direction, once it began to develop in that direction? Yes. Was she aware of that before it developed into pneumonia? No. And was that her intention before it began developing in that direction? No, but once it started to develop into pneumonia. She began with what you would identify as a cold, a bacterial infection, a very slight bacterial infection, but I’d say that because of her years of smoking tobacco and then also smoking cannabis, between the two her lungs were weak and therefore the initial infection would have developed into pneumonia somewhat easily. But remember: she was also significantly healthy. Therefore she didn’t actually think about the development of that until it was already in motion.
Now; from that point yes, she was aware of what she was doing. And because she and Michael had discussed quite a bit about how easy it can be to choose to move in a direction of death if you already had some physical manifestation, she was at first experimenting, to see how easy it would be. And in that, that was curiosity that began the situation but then it developed in a direction of intention. That’s the reason that she refused to engage a physician. She refused to engage antibiotics and that’s what did the situation.
NUNO: The reason I’m asking is because that was a manifestation which likely the subjective awareness initiated. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: It seems like manifestations are… Well, from my point of view they seem to be like a forte of the subjective awareness. The subjective awareness can create those easily. And in my case, there is one kind of manifestation actually which I would find acceptable and that would be a fatal heart failure.
ELIAS: I understand. I’d say that that would be something, in a manner of speaking, similar to choosing a direction such as pneumonia because pneumonia is considerably uncomfortable to use as a method for disengaging. It’s actually very uncomfortable. And I would say that heart failure is also a very uncomfortable method, painful.
NUNO: I didn’t know that.
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Maybe I’ll reconsider that then.
ELIAS: That’s a very severely painful method.
NUNO: Good thing I asked! The thing I don’t understand with the subjective awareness is that it can easily manifest these things under what you might call certain conditions. It does so frequently. Millions of times in the world every day the subjective awareness is manifesting some kind of disease of people. It happens all the time. And yet it can’t go through that portal without having all the i’s dotted and the t’s crossed, even though objectively I’m very much wanting to go in that direction, to go through that portal, it doesn’t happen. So is that because that’s completely different from a manifestation? Or why is that?
ELIAS: It has to be both, in harmony with each other. They don’t move independent of each other. Therefore even though you want to move in this direction considerably, what you want objectively isn’t always something that you allow yourself to accomplish. And therefore it’s… It’s a matter of recognizing the conditions that you place on what you want. And those conditions become restrictions. That you want to move in a particular direction, but you want to do it in a certain manner. You don’t want to be in pain. You don’t want to be necessarily sick. You don’t necessarily want to create a dis-ease. And you, to this point, don’t want to be moving in a direction of what would be equivalent physically of suicide. It wouldn’t necessarily be the same as suicide in relation to death because you’re not moving in that direction. You’re not moving into non-physical death. You’re moving into a different direction of continuing in life, but essentially it would be the same as suicide in a physical capacity and that’s another thing you don’t want to do. Therefore because of those objective restrictions, that’s placing limitations on your subjective choices also.
NUNO: I understand that piece very well, but I thought there was already a direction set with what I’m doing by engaging that essence and…
ELIAS: I would agree, but it still is a matter of the objective and the subjective are in harmony with each other. And therefore the subjective is subject to the limitations that your objective awareness places on the method.
NUNO: I understand the limitations. I clearly see that. But in that particular process that I’m currently in, within that process I don’t think I’m imposing any limitations. Am I?
ELIAS: Yes. Which means that the objective and subjective are moving in harmony and they’re simply moving slower.
NUNO: And is there a way to accelerate that?
ELIAS: Yes. And you’re already of aware of the methods to accelerate that.
NUNO: I… Yeah, but those are physical methods. I meant energetically.
ELIAS: Energetically I’d say that you’re moving in the most effective method to be expressing the objective that you want.
NUNO: I see. So there’s nothing to be done subjectively to improve that? If there was—
ELIAS: No.
NUNO: — to be an acceleration it would have to be through physical means?
ELIAS: Correct.
NUNO: You know, I think about my contingency plan sometimes and it seems to be very appealing at times but then at other times, it’s not. So…
ELIAS: I understand.
NUNO: Yeah, it’s just fundamentally I don’t like it.
ELIAS: Which is very understandable and in keeping with your natural expressions.
NUNO: Sometimes I engage Julian, that essence, and I engage the essence – and I have actually told you about this before – I go deeper and deeper into the energy of that essence. And at times, it has quite a significant effect on me. It’s temporary, but it’s still quite significant and I attribute that to be a reduction of separation. Is that in fact what is happening?
ELIAS: Yes. I would agree.
NUNO: And that, I would think, is somewhat helpful to this process? Or is it not?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: I really would like to decrease separation. I just don’t want to be distracted from whatever else I’m doing, but I find that separation is very annoying.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) I understand.
NUNO: (Chuckles) Yeah. It’s just… I mean, especially since it’s something that’s self-imposed, that is so frustrating. So I’ve been using a couple of directives to myself, using the pearl energy and pulsations of consciousness. One of them is, “Eliminate all resistance to going to Nova.” Would you say that that’s an effective directive?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: And also I’ve been doing something similar, “Eliminate all interest in this reality.”
ELIAS: That could be too general, because you don’t want to eliminate all interest in this reality. You want to perhaps eliminate all interest in this lifetime, or this focus. No, not, not this focus because you’re taking that with you. Therefore I would say, “in this lifetime.”
NUNO: Maybe I’ll just stick with the first one, “Eliminate all resistance to going to Nova.”
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: A completely different topic here. I’d like to understand the relationship between essence and the focuses that essence expresses. It’s called a focus because it’s a focus of attention. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Correct.
NUNO: A focus of attention into physical reality. And—
ELIAS: Correct.
NUNO: What I was wondering first of all is, what holds that focus of attention? Is it the essence that expressed the essence, or is it the focus itself?
ELIAS: Repeat.
NUNO: What is it that holds that focus of attention? Is it the essence that expressed the focus, or is it the focus itself that holds the focus of attention?
ELIAS: Both.
NUNO: I’m trying to understand what the relationship is between the focus and the essence. And most people think – and as I did – that it’s simply the essence holds the focus of attention and that’s what the focus is. But I thought about that, but then that would mean that disengaging the focus would be the choice of the essence. The focus itself doesn’t have a choice in that.
ELIAS: Incorrect. The focus does have the choice. Actually, the focus has all of the choice in relation to disengaging or fragmenting. The focus holds all of the choice in relation to those expressions.
NUNO: So can you explain to me what the relationship between the focus and the essence is? Because there’s also the subjective awareness, which is part of the focus.
ELIAS: Correct.
NUNO: And so what’s the relationship between the subjective awareness and the essence that expressed the focus?
ELIAS: But what I would say to you is what I’ve expressed many times previously, is that you’re expressing in a manner that suggests that these are two entities, and it’s not. It’s one.
NUNO: You mean the essence and the focus?
ELIAS: Yes. It’s one. You can’t separate them. You can’t separate what isn’t more than one thing. (Pause) Therefore in that, I’d say that it would be the same as asking what is the relationship between you and you.
NUNO: I think I understand that. It’s just that there’s some pieces in all this. There’s the essence, there’s the mind, there’s the two awarenesses and there’s the body consciousness. I understand the relationship between the two awarenesses better now, but the mind in particular is kind of interesting in that it’s shared by the two awarenesses but it would also be the mind of essence? Is that correct?
ELIAS: I’d say yes, because the mind is you. (Pause) You have the body, which the brain inhabits, but then you have the mind which is not necessarily part of the body. It interacts with the body because it’s you, but it’s not a part of the body. Therefore yes, that would be you as the focus and you as the essence.
NUNO: I think these are one of those things I need to go and think about a little bit more.
The pulsations of consciousness, I’ve been trying to engage those fairly regularly. I’d like your assessment as to how effectively I’m doing that.
ELIAS: I’d say very well. You were already considerably accomplished at that previously and therefore engaging that now would be something that you would be adept at and accomplished at.
NUNO: But have you observed me in this?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes, that’s what I was expressing.
NUNO: I’m still not clear exactly about what I do while I’m engaging those pulsations, in that what I typically do is I will set an intent, just like I do with the pearl energy. In fact, sometimes I use the pearl energy within the pulsations of consciousness.
ELIAS: That’s excellent.
NUNO: And I will repeat the intent periodically during that. I’m not sure whether repetition is necessary. I’m not sure what else I should be doing, other than setting the intent at the onset. Because I can now extend this for a long time, I sometimes switch to another intent during the same engagement.
ELIAS: Such as?
NUNO: Well, I mean from one intent to another. I will change the intent after some period of time. Let me just start at the beginning, then go a back a bit and ask you: in engaging the pulsations of consciousness, other than setting the intent at the outset, is it necessary to repeat that intent?
ELIAS: No, it’s not. No, it’s not. What I would say is what can enhance your direction with that in addition to the pearl energy would be focusing considerably on the pulses themselves and moving your attention fully into the experience of the pulses, and directing that in relation to your intention.
NUNO: And would you say that it’s acceptable to change that intention after some time? Or it’s preferable not to?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
NUNO: Is it true that everything in the blueprint is a belief?
ELIAS: (Pause) Beliefs are part of the blueprint. They aren’t the blueprint. Therefore everything in the blueprint is not a belief, but that there are beliefs associated with everything in the blueprint.
NUNO: I didn’t have a whole lot to discuss with you today and I was even considering not engaging you today in this session, but I consulted with Tingua and Tingua said that it would be better, it’s important that I continue engaging you in these sessions at this time. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: I would.
NUNO: So that’s what I’m doing here. Do you have any questions for me? Do you have any general things to express to me?
ELIAS: (Pause) I’d say that what I would express to you as important would be to catch yourself whenever you are experiencing frustration in relation to the process, or whenever you’re experiencing some type of pushing in relation to the process. Because either of those expressions will be in opposition to what you’re doing.
NUNO: That makes sense. And do you have anything to ask me?
ELIAS: To ask you. (Pause) I’d say perhaps the only thing I would have to ask you or inquire of you would be (pause): how are you engaging with your family members in a capacity that isn’t strange to them?
NUNO: I think their observation of me is that I’m doing less, so that seems a little bit strange. I have discontinued many things I used to do, because I want to distance myself from the objective parts of this life.
ELIAS: Have they questioned anything?
NUNO: Mm, slightly. Nothing… not very persistently, no. There seems to be acceptance in that.
ELIAS: Very well. It seems curious to myself that they wouldn’t necessarily question you, or to think that there is something amiss or wrong with you.
NUNO: Well, I think there may be some thoughts of that.
ELIAS: Ah!
NUNO: But they haven’t been expressed. That’s what I think, and you would know better than me because you have access to their energy, but I think that there is probably theories that this is going the direction of just aging and degeneration and possibly things like Alzheimer’s. I don’t know, something like that.
ELIAS: Ah. What of your wife?
NUNO: That’s the one I’m talking about. That’s really the only one I engage with any regularity.
ELIAS: Therefore your children are not concerned?
NUNO: No. No, I’m not sure they’re even aware actually, for the most part.
ELIAS: Very well. She doesn’t communicate with them.
NUNO: Oh, yes. Very frequently. I would doubt that that’s a topic for discussion.
ELIAS: Ah. Why?
NUNO: I don’t know. I could… I mean, that’s just an impression I have. I would say because it’s a personal matter. It’s not something that is good and I think she likes to avoid negative things, negative topics of discussion with the kids. I think it would be something she would avoid.
ELIAS: Ah.
NUNO: In any case, she hasn’t shown much—
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: She hasn’t shown much concern, and that’s good.
ELIAS: Very well. I would agree that that is good.
NUNO: Why do you ask?
ELIAS: Simply a curiosity in association with relationships and how relationships are expressed in such an unusual circumstance, let us say.
NUNO: I think it’s worked out reasonably well in that case. That’s not a concern to me, that it hasn’t been a problem or a point of friction or anything like that, so that’s not anything that’s troublesome to me.
I’d like to ask about my cat though. You said the cat’s coming. How exactly is that going to work?
ELIAS: I’d say that what will likely occur is that the cat will disengage very soon after you do. It’s part of your energy and part of your essence. Therefore it will simply move in the direction of expressing that movement back to you when you disengage.
NUNO: I don’t suppose you have any estimates as to when that might happen or a time frame within which that might happen?
ELIAS: No. (Nuno laughs) That would be up to you, my friend.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
NUNO: I think our timer is going off, so I will… I’ll just leave that.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: And you can give me your words of wisdom.
ELIAS: I express words of wisdom: pay attention to your meditations and what we discussed in relation to your meditations, especially in relation to those pulses in consciousness and directing in relation to them.
NUNO: Okay. I will do that. That seems like a powerful tool for me.
ELIAS: It is. And I express tremendous encouragement as always. In much love and treasured friendship with you, and a tremendous amount of support in relation to you and what you’re doing, I love you considerably my friend. Until our next meeting, au revoir.
NUNO: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 57 minutes)
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