Progress Towards Nova, Dreams, and an Alien Encounter
Topics:
“Progress Towards Nova”
“Dream Interpretations”
“Pulsations of Consciousness”
“Alien Encounter”
Sunday, November 16, 2025 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Nuno (Lystell)
ELIAS: Good morning!
NUNO: Hello, my friend!
ELIAS: (Laughs) And what shall we discuss this day?
NUNO: I thought we’d start and ask you about some of the things you’ve said recently concerning the subjective awareness. And as I understand it, you are now expressing that there actually isn’t an objective awareness and a subjective awareness. There is one awareness that is both objectively and subjectively aware. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Mm. (Pause) They’re two halves to one coin, in a manner of speaking, because they have different functions. Therefore there is an objective and a subjective, but they’re not separate.
NUNO: Okay. So that’s not too different from what you’ve been expressing to me previously.
ELIAS: Correct.
NUNO: I would like to get some clarifications on our previous discussion concerning what happens to me while I’m in the coma. And the first question I have, I wasn’t quite clear whether you were saying that the subjective awareness during those periods of time actually does achieve the primary position but then once it comes out of the coma, then it reverts? Or is it that it’s an incremental process and each time it moves further into that direction?
ELIAS: Explain the latter.
NUNO: Well, it has to be one or the other, the latter being that incrementally the subjective awareness is being moved towards the primary position.
ELIAS: Ah! That’s what I was asking for. No. The first was correct.
NUNO: I see. Well, that kind of in a way is a little disappointing, in that if it’s actually achieving that primary position, why can it not disengage at that time?
ELIAS: It could.
NUNO: But it’s being held back in a sense by the objective awareness, right?
ELIAS: Remember: they’re two sides to the same coin. Therefore they’re not separate. Therefore whether the subjective is in the primary position or the objective is in the primary position, they’re still working together.
NUNO: Yes, but… Okay, let me ask a different question.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: I’ve asked this question many times before and I thought I understood your answer. The question is basically: What is it that is preventing disengagement from happening at that time? And my understanding from our previous discussions was because the objective awareness and the subjective awareness as well are still engaging physical reality.
ELIAS: Correct. That’s still a choice that’s being made.
NUNO: Right. Yeah, I understand that. That is really bad. So is anything being accomplished? Or is this a matter that I simply go into this coma state hoping for the best each time?
ELIAS: No, no! I would say yes, that is anything being accomplished, most definitely because every time you do that, you’re moving yourself farther into a direction of disassociating yourself with the physical reality.
NUNO: How so?
ELIAS: Every time you move in the direction of a coma, you’re placing yourself closer to not engaging with physical reality. You’re creating a communication to yourself, to your physical self, that you’re disinterested with the physical reality that you’re engaging.
NUNO: By physical self, you mean the body consciousness and the objective awareness?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: What is it about this process that makes it almost impossible to predict?
ELIAS: As I have said previously, that this is something that is, in a manner of speaking, built in or intrinsic to your physical manifestation in this reality. It is imbued with a will to survive, which is the reason that even when individuals choose a method of disengaging through dis-ease, generally speaking for the most part it’s lengthy.
NUNO: We have discussed this previously, and you said this mechanism was in the mind, I think.
ELIAS: Repeat.
NUNO: And you said this mechanism towards preservation was actually something in the mind.
ELIAS: Yes, but it’s not gone.
NUNO: No, Obviously not. (Laughs) But I’m—
ELIAS: Definitely not. Yes.
NUNO: So in that, then…
ELIAS: Yes?
NUNO: What can I be doing objectively and subjectively to facilitate this movement?
ELIAS: I’d say you’re already doing it. You’re doing everything that you can be doing to be moving in that direction without intentionally generating some other action to disengage.
NUNO: Okay. So you say at this time there is not much more I can do than just continue as I am?
ELIAS: Correct. You’ve done all of your research. You’ve expressed in a manner of being very concentrated on every avenue of how to be engaging the most efficient and effective methods to move in this direction and accomplish what you want. I’d say that you’ve been much more comprehensive than most individuals.
NUNO: I’m highly motivated.
ELIAS: I know you are (chuckles) and I acknowledge you, my friend. (Chuckles)
NUNO: Let me just ask this question then first. Why is this affecting me? This process, why is it affecting me physiologically?
ELIAS: Why is it affecting you physiologically?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: Isn’t that what you want it to do?
NUNO: Yes. Let me back up.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: The idea that at some point during my time in the coma it will be successful, in that I will be able to disengage, is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Very well. Then if that were to happen, what actually happens at that time?
ELIAS: What would actually happen?
Now, this might be one more point in this process. What would actually happen would be that you would, in a manner of speaking, open a type of, for lack of a better word, portal from your time zone or framework into another time framework. And you would move through that and the body in this time framework would die.
NUNO: And the other time framework being my other reality, Nova?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes. Therefore what you would do is, you would appear in the womb of your mother in the other time framework.
NUNO: I understand that. That’s all part of the process, once disengagement has been achieved. But I guess what I’m trying to understand is—
ELIAS: Actually, no.
NUNO: No?
ELIAS: That what I’m saying is, in that state of a coma you would open that avenue and you would already be moving and engaging in that avenue, and then the body would die. Not the other way around.
NUNO: Ah, I understand. Okay. That’s interesting. That is new information.
I want to relate to you a couple of dreams. They are quite short. The first dream occurred last Tuesday, November 11th, so I was hoping perhaps you could look at my energy in the morning of that day, which would have been somewhere between seven and nine o’clock in the morning, is I think when I engaged Julius and I was in a coma. Somewhere between that. I woke up somewhere around nine. These times are very approximate. During my experience with that, I had a dream that was quite unusual for myself. And I believe the dream actually occurred while I was in the coma, but perhaps not. It could have been before, but I’m not sure. My impression is it actually happened within the coma.
The dream is unusual in that there are actually three of me that appear in this dream. There is the objective awareness that is actually experiencing the dream, the subjective awareness appears in the dream later at the end, but then there is a third me that is outside of the dream and is observing and directing the dream. And that me is aware that it is a dream, so it’s a lucid dream in that respect.
Now before I start the dream, I want to make it very clear that in my dreams anything that involves airplanes, be it an airplane, an airport, airplane tickets, boarding passes, anything of that nature, in my dreams that symbolically represents my movement to Nova. So in this dream, it starts out with me, and I am the me that is in the dream initially, and I am standing at the door to the airplane on the outside. And there is a flight attendant on the inside, just inside the door, that is smiling at me and she is welcoming me onto the airplane. And I just freeze, meaning that I am indecisive. I am unsure as to whether I should proceed or not to board the airplane. It’s not fear, it is simply apprehension I would say, something of that kind. It is a feeling of apprehension.
At that moment I switch to the other me that is outside of the dream and is observing and directing, and I say, “No, no, no, no. You definitely want to get on that airplane. You must get on that airplane.” And therefore I direct the dream for me to get on the airplane, and I do. So then I get on the airplane and the flight attendant directs me to the right, towards the passenger cabin. And once again, the outside me says, “No, no, you don’t go to the right. You go to the left.” And I undo the dream. I already had started to walk in that direction, but I undo the dream and change it. I make myself walk in the other direction, towards the flight deck. And then on the flight deck, I see the pilot in the left-hand seat and then the right-hand seat is empty. And I immediately recognize that the pilot is the subjective awareness, and I ask the subjective awareness, “Can I sit here, in the right-hand seat?” and he says, “Yes,” and I sit down there. What I believe happened next was the observing and directing me directs the subjective awareness to extend its hand and place it on the hand of the objective awareness. It’s a gesture of compassion, a gesture of assurance, perhaps even a gesture of love. And I become, the observing me, I become overwhelmed with emotion at that point and the dream ends.
So when I analyze this dream, the thing that I find particularly interesting and disturbing is that I am unsure whether to proceed or not, to continue. And I think that’s something I need to address to.
ELIAS: I agree. I’d say that that’s definitely a validation of what you keep asking about what’s holding you back. Therefore what I would say to you in that is that when you move into the cockpit and you are sitting alongside of what you recognize as your subjective awareness, I’d say that that is also very validating in the opposite capacity, in that that’s your expression, obviously as you’re already aware, that the you in the dream that is sitting alongside of the subjective awareness is the objective you. But then you feel this tremendous nurturing and in that, you have this expression of comfort or comforting from yourself, from that subjective aspect of yourself. Therefore I’d say that the piece about being hesitant is not overwhelming. You move forward anyway, and you allow yourself to move to a position in which you have the objective and the subjective together, and that that is comforting. And you don’t have to continue with the dream after that.
NUNO: What about that part where I’m directed to go to the passenger cabin, but I intervene and I change that? I thought about that. Is that supposed to indicate to me that I need to be actively participating in this in some way, rather than being just passive?
ELIAS: I would agree. Definitely. But you ARE. You ARE being actively involved. You have been from the beginning.
NUNO: Then why am I having…? Why did I have this dream? I mean, this dream seems to be very important.
ELIAS: I’d say that it’s validating you in significant capacities because I’d say that with all the work that you’ve done in this direction, it can be somewhat discouraging or disheartening to not have finished it by now. And I would say that this is you giving yourself acknowledgment and encouragement in relation to everything that you’ve done and trusting yourself, and moving in that active direction. That it’s not simply a matter of being passive, and you haven’t been being passive. You haven’t been simply doing nothing and waiting for yourself to poof away. You’ve been very active in this direction, and intentional in relation to it. Therefore I’d say that this is you acknowledging yourself.
NUNO: Okay. That’s reassuring. Was this dream within the coma or outside of it?
ELIAS: In it.
NUNO: Yeah, that was my impression. Okay.
I had another dream, actually just this last night. And most of the dream was too symbolic for me to understand, which is typical. But at the very end, just before I wake up, I was half-awake already actually, I get some imagery that as I understand it is the part of the dream that I’m intended to be aware of objectively. And what it is, is an image of a typewriter and a door. I’m seeing the typewriter as if I’m sitting at the typewriter and there’s hands on the keyboard, or on the keys of the typewriter, and there’s a door directly in front of the typewriter. And the whole scene is like a scene from an old movie. It’s an old typewriter. Nobody uses typewriters anymore. And the door is even of a fashion that would be typical of, I don’t know, 1950s or something like that, so it’s old. Old typewriter, old door.
And there had been in the dream leading up to this part something about the left-hand side, something about typing on the left-hand side. So when I see this imagery – I’m not sure if the information that I get was part of the dream or whether this is me being half-awake doing some analysis – but what I got was a message that said, “Type on the left to go through the door.” My association is that the left is a reference to the subjective. So after I thought about this a little while, while I was awake, I thought this is encouraging me to communicate subjectively to open the door, the door being the way forward I think.
ELIAS: I agree. I would say that that is accurate.
NUNO: The question then is: How do I do that? How do I communicate? What is it that I should be communicating subjectively and how do I do that?
ELIAS: (Pause) Very well. What I would say to you is, of course this is symbolic, and what I’d say is the typewriter being symbolic of information and communication. In that, the symbology of the door and the typewriter being old is the imagery of information and communications that are in memory, therefore not present. Then the factor that you are expressing that you should type on the left to open the door or to enter through the door is symbology of, if you remember what I have expressed many times previously in relation to individuals that have engaged trauma work – but it doesn’t only apply to trauma work -- but in relation to trauma work, when the individual puts together the memory and the feeling, they move that memory from the right hemisphere to the left hemisphere of their brain, because the left is where the healthy memories are held. The left is the direction of healed. Therefore moving in the direction of the left to open and to move through the door is a matter of you communicating to yourself that factor of engaging this action in a healthy and healed capacity.
NUNO: Meaning what?
ELIAS: Meaning that you are whole. You don’t require any healing. You don’t require any movement of any type of addressing to, that you’re aware of your full self. You’re aware of your experiences in this present reality. You’re not running away. You’re running to, not away from.
NUNO: I’m running to, not away from? Is that right?
ELIAS: Correct. You are running to, not running away.
NUNO: Okay. That’s significant, because at times I’ve felt like I’m running away.
ELIAS: No.
NUNO: So this dream then, is it prompting me to take action in some way? Or is it again another affirmation?
ELIAS: I’d say that it’s an acknowledgment that you are going to, not going away from, and acknowledging that to yourself to be aware and to know that you’re not actually running away from anything.
NUNO: The pulsations of consciousness, we spoke about that last time.
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: So I’ve been engaging those more and frequently.
ELIAS: Excellent.
NUNO: I’m not quite sure how to proceed in that besides just engaging them. I asked you, and you said there was nothing more to do than engage that. But my question is: How do I direct my movement in that? I mean, do I set an intent while experiencing the pulsations? Or what do I do?
ELIAS: Good question. I’d say that once you notice that you are aware of those pulsations and you’re experiencing them, yes, I would say be allowing yourself to move more and more into them, in a manner of speaking melt into those pulses. And while you’re doing that, express that intention of what you want to do.
NUNO: Okay. That’s more or less what I’ve been doing.
ELIAS: Good.
NUNO: And I guess these pulsations, they’re not magical in that things are going to happen instantaneously? This is yet another process, right?
ELIAS: Correct. Correct.
NUNO: I’d like to continue our previous discussion on what I think of as identity. In our last discussion, you said that this focus was fragmented from those three essences. But none of those three essences are called Lystell, so I would like—
ELIAS: Of course not.
NUNO: Yeah. I’d like you to explain where that name came from.
ELIAS: That’s the name that you chose, once you fragmented. Of course not, none of those essences would be incorporating that name, because it’s YOUR name.
NUNO: Okay, so I chose that.
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: In our previous discussions, we talked about another focus that was in another dimension and that focus attempted to move the focus to this reality. But it was not entirely successful, in that the focus wasn’t moved and instead a new focus was created. Do you recall this conversation?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: That would have occurred before this focus was created?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Okay. So this other focus that was in that other dimension, what essence was that focus?
ELIAS: You’re requesting the essence name?
NUNO: Not necessarily. I’m just trying to determine… it was a different essence than Lystell?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: So what happened to that focus?
ELIAS: It remained in that dimension.
NUNO: I thought it had disengaged.
ELIAS: Eventually.
NUNO: Oh, no, I mean that I thought that in attempting to move the focus, it deliberately disengaged.
ELIAS: No. It eventually disengaged. It, in a manner of speaking, disengaged the focus that it would have been. Do you understand that?
NUNO: Mm, somewhat.
ELIAS: Just as you’ve moved in quite a bit of research and actions to be moving in this direction that you’re moving in now, in similar manner that focus engaged a very similar direction, let’s say. And in that, the details of the focus that it wanted to create were already all in play, and it… Let me express in this manner. In a manner of speaking, its seed was already implanted in the other expression. And therefore not being successful in generating the type of action that the individual wanted to engage, that beginning disengaged. Do you understand?
NUNO: I believe so. Yes.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: What I would like to understand is, this focus was then of another essence, not Lystell?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Okay. So what relationship is there between that focus and me?
ELIAS: That focus is associated with your energy before you actually completed that fragmentation.
NUNO: In our previous conversation when I expressed that myself as essence, that I was expressed in the form of a focus. In other words, an essence was fragmented, but in the form of a focus. And I asked for your validation of that and you paused for an extremely long time before you answered yes. There must have been a lot of analysis and accessing and I don’t know what else (Elias laughs) and that tells me that a simple “yes” is probably not the whole answer.
ELIAS: There is a lot that has been engaged in relation to you with this essence as Lystell, and a lot of activity that has occurred in relation to fragmentation, before fragmentation, during fragmentation. And therefore all of those factors were taken into consideration and I was accessing through all of those activities to isolate yes, it was created as the same as this focus, in a manner of speaking, which is in itself somewhat distorted. And in that, the focus didn’t fragment. You created a new essence that the impetus was associated with this focus, but this focus didn’t exist before the fragmentation. Therefore it’s challenging to explain.
NUNO: Okay. I think I somewhat understand that and I will take that away and digest it. (Elias chuckles)
I was rather bored the other day, and I got so bored that I tried to connect with an alien on another planet.
ELIAS: Interesting.
NUNO: Yeah. And I wasn’t very optimistic about this, but my intent was to connect with an alien from a planet that has been sending spacecraft to visit this planet, in the present timeframe or thereabouts. And I felt an energy very soon after I focused my attention in that direction, and it was like a very gentle soothing energy, and I had some conversation with somebody. And I was wondering if you would validate that?
ELIAS: One moment. (Pause) Yes. You would be correct.
NUNO: Now I tried to get a name from this. Well, first of all, was I connecting with the essence or the focus?
ELIAS: The focus.
NUNO: And I tried to get a name. It was very difficult for me to understand, but the name I translated was Galock, or something like Galock. Are you aware of this focus?
ELIAS: Again, one moment. (Pause) Hm. The translation into something you can express would be actually Galrock. And in that, yes, that individual is aware of the interaction that the two of you engaged.
NUNO: Are we focuses? I mean, is that a focus of mine?
ELIAS: No. Which is also interesting, because that would have been easier.
NUNO: Well, I wasn’t actually—
ELIAS: Trying. I—
NUNO: I wasn’t actually specific about which focus, because I didn’t know. Or not which focus, which alien, because I didn’t know. I just wanted to talk to any of them.
ELIAS: Correct. (Chuckles)
NUNO: What I’m curious about is: Why did this individual connect with me in particular?
ELIAS: Curiosity. Your expression of energy was actually more generalized and therefore received by a group, but this individual chose to respond.
NUNO: Is this individual male or female?
ELIAS: Mm… They don’t necessarily identify themselves in relation to that type of gender.
NUNO: Okay. Then that’s fine. I just thought because it’s in the same dimension that it would have been… Anyway, it doesn’t matter. Like I said, when I first sensed the energy of this alien, a very gentle and soothing energy. But then later that night when I was preparing to go to sleep and engage the twin, Julius, I once again felt that energy and I was a little confused by this. At first I thought that it was the twin, Julian, which I usually engage at that time to relax me. I felt this energy and I thought oh well, it’s probably just Julian expressing the energy to me differently. But it felt very much like the energy I felt from this alien. And then this morning again, when I was preparing my notes for my conversation with you, I was thinking about this conversation and I once again feel that energy. Is that individual projecting or trying to connect with me?
ELIAS: Yes. It’s curious.
NUNO: All right. I should probably get back to it then, I suppose. (Elias laughs) It seems to be quite friendly.
ELIAS: I would agree. Yes.
NUNO: Well, that’s a new experience. (Elias laughs)
Can guidelines be changed or eliminated?
ELIAS: Can guidelines be changed? Generally, no. But that doesn’t mean it’s impossible. I’d say that it’s something that isn’t necessary because you have so many other focuses that have different guidelines and you’re experiencing those. Therefore what would be the point? (Pause) Do you have a reason?
NUNO: Well, I have this guideline about not harming the body consciousness which may not—
ELIAS: Ah!
NUNO: Yeah, that one.
ELIAS: That’s understandable.
Now, remember: that doesn’t mean that you cannot move in opposition to a guideline. You can.
NUNO: Yes, and I’ve rationalized that with myself about that.
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: The separation between the objective and the subjective, that originates from the blueprint, correct?
ELIAS: No. That actually originates from you. I’d say that actually, for most individuals – not all – as very small ones, you still don’t separate objective and subjective. But as you develop, generally speaking, relatively young you begin to move in that direction of that separation.
NUNO: That’s something that can then be reduced. I mean, I know it can be reduced.
ELIAS: The separation?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: Absolutely. That’s what you’re attempting to do, and moving in that direction. And that’s why I’ve been engaging conversations with individuals about the subjective awareness, to reduce that separation.
NUNO: Personality types. So you’ve talked over the years about things like Swiss cheese people, aristocratic people, queen bee people – these personality types, they are chosen at the time that the focus is created?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: So for myself, I won’t be taking on any of these personality types, will I?
ELIAS: Correct.
NUNO: All right. Good. Because I don’t really need any of that.
Would you encourage me to communicate more with my alien friend?
ELIAS: Yes. And I would say don’t concern yourself that it invests you in this reality too much, because you’re actually moving in a direction (chuckles) of investing in a different reality. Same dimension, but different reality.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
NUNO: That would have been my concern. Okay, good. All right, my friend. Thank you.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
NUNO: And this is where I ask for your words of wisdom.
ELIAS: And I would say that with everything that we have discussed this day, I would express: be encouraged from what you have presented to yourself and how you have moved in a direction of validating yourself and acknowledging yourself. And I would say take that information and continue to move in the direction that you are.
I would say to you my friend, don’t be discouraged. You’ll accomplish, one manner or another. I have no doubt.
Until our next meeting, in whichever capacity that may be, I express tremendous love and encouragement and affection to you, my dear friend. Au revoir.
NUNO: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 58 minutes)
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