Stepping into a Different Reality: Part 9
Topics:
“The Slowness of Doing Things in the Subjective”
“Creation of Another Probable Self”
“Dream Imagery”
“Giving Up One’s Identity”
Friday, May 30, 2025 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Nuno (Lystell)
ELIAS: Good morning!
NUNO: Hello, my friend.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And how are you proceeding?
NUNO: That’s more or less the main thrust of our conversation today.
ELIAS: Excellent.
NUNO: I meant that in the way that I want to discuss that with you. As far as my assessment of how I’m proceeding, I’m not terribly sure. I believe I’m making progress in certain areas and I don’t have a lot of objective evidence to support that, but I think intuitively I feel like I’m moving in the right direction.
ELIAS: I would agree. And what is your assessment of it all, other than moving in the right direction?
NUNO: My assessment? This is really slow.
ELIAS: Ah! I would say that in different situations there are many people that would make a very similar assessment of their own situations. Some directions move slower than others, and the biggest reason for that is that the objective part of it, the objective part of the movement, is unfamiliar. And that unfamiliarity does have a strong influence in relation to the time factor.
NUNO: Well, I’m very interested in hearing more on that. Can you expand on that?
ELIAS: I can. When you choose to move in a direction, when you know what that direction is, meaning you’ve already had experience with it and you can see in your objective world and your waking life what you’re doing, it’s easier and moves more quickly in relation to whatever it is that you’re choosing to do.
Let us say that you choose to purchase a house. You can see the house. You can interact with other people about the house. You move in a direction in which you are involved physically with different aspects of the purchase of the house. You’re engaging with a bank or some type of financing individuals. You’re associating with money. You’re doing things with money. You’re actually engaging in many different facets of that one direction. You might be purchasing furniture. You might have to sell the house that you’re living in, and then also be concerning yourself with moving all of your belongings to the new house.
In this, there’s a process that’s happening, but that process might only involve you objectively for perhaps two months, perhaps a little longer depending on the situation. But I would say that because you are involved objectively and you know what you’re doing, you can see, you can touch, you can engage with everything that you’re doing objectively and you are familiar with the objective imagery. You know what a house looks like. You know what it is to be moving from one place to another. You know about moving companies, if you choose to engage in that direction. In that, you’re already aware of everything in a physical capacity. And because of that and because you’re continuously engaging, it makes the process move more quickly. And in this present time framework, something such as that is moving even more quickly than it would have in the past.
I would say that this is very different from what you’re doing. Even though you have moved in a direction of being very thorough and engaging other essences, engaging people in the future and being involved in setting up this direction, in a manner of speaking, it’s all actions that you’re doing subjectively rather than objectively.
Now, you’re objectively aware of all of those actions and directions, but you’re moving in a very different direction than what you or most people are accustomed to. In this, you’re not able to physically use your physical senses to aid you. There’s nothing you can touch or physically feel or see or hear, and therefore what is familiar to you, what you know, isn’t actually being engaged. Whereas in most situations in your physical life, you rely on your objective awareness and your senses to guide you in relation to whatever it is that you’re doing.
In this situation, you’re relying on your subjective awareness to guide you and your inner senses, which you’re not as familiar with them as you are with the objective. Even if you are engaging the subjective on a daily basis, let us say, you are (pause) in a reality in which it is, in a manner of speaking, geared to the objective. And in that, even if you are engaging and aware of your subjective activity on a daily basis, you’re still also engaging your objective awareness and you’re engaging that more, and you’ve been engaging that your entire life. Therefore everything in your objective awareness has an element of familiarity, whereas even when you become more familiar with certain aspects of your subjective, there’s an element of having to definitely be aware of trusting that. You trust your objective without ever thinking about it, but your subjective, now you have to learn how to trust that. And it’s something that you’re constantly reminded of, that you’re trusting this.
You don’t remind yourself that you’re trusting your objective awareness in its usual capacity. Meaning if you look at your house, you’re trusting your objective awareness and your senses that you’re actually seeing a house and everything in it and the different rooms and the construction of it and the trees outside and the foliage and the animals. You don’t think about trusting all of that. You simply do it. You did have to learn how to do that when you were an infant, but you don’t remember that.
Now you’re moving through a situation in which you are trusting that subjective awareness, which is also just as much a part of you as your objective awareness, but you’re not accustomed to trusting that, and therefore you’re learning how to do that more and more. But that’s also a process and that takes time. Therefore everything that you do subjectively in the attempt to make that your primary awareness instead of the objective, that’s difficult my friend. That’s something that in your life and in everyone else’s life in your present time framework is unfamiliar with and that creates that difficulty.
Interestingly, I will be discussing this subjective awareness and the movement of being more aware of that in our next group interaction, because that is the direction that is happening in relation to becoming more self-aware – which you definitely have a leg up in that direction.
NUNO: Very well. I am aware of some of what you just expressed and I have been doing things to help me integrate myself more with the subjective and I believe that’s been helping me. My first question that I have for you is: have I created a new probable self recently?
ELIAS: One moment. (Pause) Yes. What did you do?
NUNO: What did I do?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Well, I am moving in this direction of wanting to disengage and go to a different—
ELIAS: I understand, but you’ve created a probably self in relation to that quite some time ago, when you initially began this direction. I’m asking what did you do now.
NUNO: This is even more recent? I was thinking that I had created a probable self that would not go in that direction, would remain in this reality. Are we now up to eight probable selves?
ELIAS: Oh you have much more than that, but I would say that yes, you have a, what you would term to be a new one that has been more recent. [See Note 1]
NUNO: What’s the difference in the direction of that probable self?
ELIAS: That probable self is also moving in a direction of a future time framework and moving out of his reality and into a new reality. Therefore, very similar to what you’re doing. It’s not exactly the same, but it’s very similar.
NUNO: So there’s no conflict?
ELIAS: Correct.
NUNO: I just asked because I thought I had created a probable self that was going to remain.
ELIAS: You did.
NUNO: I did, but it was not that recent. Okay. I understand.
Okay, so then the next question I have is… I guess I’d better get into this topic. I had two dreams a few weeks ago and they were related. And in the first dream, I’m having a technical conversation with some people about some gadget, and I believe I’m trying to describe to them how to go about designing and building this gadget. But then all of a sudden, I say I have to go. And so I leave and I find myself once again on an airplane. And I move to the very front of the airplane, but I am facing towards the back. In other words, I am in front of the pilots. I am on the flight deck and I’m facing the pilots. They are facing forward.
But the interesting piece is that the pilots, their faces are blurred out, just like their faces might be blurred out as they do on a TV show, for example, if they want to hide somebody’s identity. And then somebody hands me headphones and I ask the person, “What are the headphones for?” and she says, “It’s in case we want to talk to you.” So I put the headphones on and the faces of the pilots are no longer blurred out, as soon as I put the headphones on. And I see then that they are identical. They are twins. They’re older men. They have grey hair, grey mustaches. They’re identically dressed in grey, grey tie, grey shirts. They have a vague resemblance to, actually a pretty good resemblance of somebody that I knew a very long time ago in a workplace I was at. And that’s the end of the dream.
And then I have a subsequent dream the same night, possibly after that one, in which I find myself on an airplane again and there is the subjective awareness. And the subjective awareness says to me, “Let’s go over our checklist.” In the dream, what that meant to me was the checklist is those things that we discussed about my focus in Nova, meaning things like gender, the focus type, desire, intent, all of those things. So that’s what I interpreted the checklist to be. And then I see that my cat is there, and then I see that I’m standing at the rear of a car and the trunk of the car is open and I think I might have been taking a few things out of the trunk. And then there’s also a smudge on the bumper of the car, and I try to rub that smudge off. And the next thing that happens in the dream, I notice the pilot and the pilot is very focused on landing the airplane. The pilot does an exceptionally good job of landing the airplane. It was an extremely smooth landing. You don’t even feel a bump. It was an extremely well-executed landing and I notice that in the dream. And then at the very end of the dream I say to myself, “I’m in Seattle,” and that’s the end of the dream.
So there’s a number of elements to this that I was curious about. So I asked you in thought about that, and I’d like to go over that with you now. And to begin, the two pilots in the first dream – oh, and I forgot to mention that the pilot in the second dream is one of the two from the first dream. That’s the connection. What I understand is that the two pilots are twin essences. Is that correct?
ELIAS: No.
NUNO: Okay. What are they?
ELIAS: The two pilots are the objective and the subjective parts of you. [See Note 2]
NUNO: But then who am I, in the dream?
ELIAS: This is symbolic. You’re observing. And in that, then you are engaging observing the two pilots, that they are identical. And in that, you’re… You’re you in this dream, but you are sometimes engaging and sometimes observing. This is also actually very close to a lucid dream, in which you are participating and you’re also observing what’s happening in the dream. But remember: dreams are an interpretation from the objective, so that they are symbolic. Continue. What else do you observe and assess from this dream?
NUNO: Well, my assessment… I had thought that they were twin essences, so that’s really the thrust of the dream, I had thought. But… So I would say then I don’t understand the part about their faces being obscured until I put the headphones on and I don’t understand what the meaning of the headphones is in that dream.
ELIAS: The headphones represent clarity. And before you put them on – and their function is to be able to communicate – the faces of these individuals are blurred because it is representative of not being entirely clear of directly seeing these two individuals, and these two individuals, what they represent of the objective and the subjective awarenesses. And in that, you’re instructed to place the headphones on, which represent a link from them to you in which now you have the clarity. Their faces are clear. And you have the ability to interact and to communicate, in a manner of speaking.
NUNO: That symbology of the headphones, of the clarity, it’s not… (laughs) It’s not clear how is it I achieve that clarity, from the dream.
ELIAS: (Pause) That’s not actually part of the imagery. It’s not about how you do it. It’s about that you are in a position to be clear because of what you’re doing. It reflects – because your objective and subjective are in harmony with each other – your waking state as it is now. That you are moving in a direction in which you’re attempting to make these two let’s say aspects of yourself, the subjective and the objective, equal in awareness. And therefore that’s the representation of the clarity.
NUNO: And why is it that, in the dream, these two individuals don’t look like me at all?
ELIAS: Of course not. That is also symbology. And in that, you in like manner to most individuals, in a manner of speaking, you know that these are aspects of yourself. You know that they’re your awarenesses, but you also have this piece that you don’t necessarily see them as you. Just as you know that you are essence and your essence is you, but you still have this piece in which there is an element of separation in which there’s still an aspect of your perception that sees it simply and somewhat significantly as different from you. Just as when we were engaging our conversations about the subjective awareness and while we were having those conversations, even though you know that this is you, there’s still that piece in which you’re talking about it as if it’s something else. Do you understand?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: Therefore you’re moving closer and closer and closer to dropping that separation altogether. I’m speaking of you individually. And in that, I would say that that’s the reason that you image these two individuals to be twins or identical, but it is very understandable that you imaged them not with your face but as different from you. Even when you drop that veil of separation altogether in relation to these two awarenesses, I would say that you likely would image them in a dream as different from yourself, simply because you would be looking at them as different aspects of yourself. That yes, they’re you and you know that and you understand that and you have fully engaged that, but that they are aspects of yourself and therefore you’re looking at them as somewhat different from yourself. Very similar to something that is a talent, let us say, that you do but you don’t look at that as being the entirety of you. It's an aspect of you that you engage.
NUNO: So in the second dream, am I correct that then that they’re identified, then the person that’s with me as being the subjective awareness in the dream and he says to me, “Let’s review the checklist,” was my interpretation of that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Okay. And the car, my interpretation of the car is that that’s my, in a sense, my life in this reality and I’m taking with me a few things, and I’m taking the cat. That’s why the cat shows up.
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: I don’t understand the smudge on the car. I mean, my impression on that is that there are things in this life I would like to erase.
ELIAS: Yes. And that there are things in this life that… that smudge on the car actually is quite accurate, I would say, because it’s not large in relation to the vehicle itself but it’s significant enough that it stands out and that you notice it. And that’s representative of all of the things that you dislike about this time framework and why you’re moving.
NUNO: One odd thing about this is that when the plane lands, I say I am in Seattle and what I have intended is that I be born in a city generally in the same area as Seattle is located today, not exactly, perhaps a little bit to the east. And I had been thinking that the city did not actually survive, that it was rebuilt and renamed Nova. I’ve been using Nova as the name of the reality, which is what it is. But I also had intended, perhaps incorrectly, that the city is also called Nova. So have I got that wrong? That perhaps that the city Seattle continues to be called that in the future?
ELIAS: No. I would say that you’re correct. But this is precisely what I was speaking to you about earlier in our conversation, about how easy the objective is because of what you know. And therefore I would say that that would be representative of a memory.
Now, I would say what is also significant in this dream imagery is that you noticed how smoothly the pilot landed the plane, and that that was significant to you. And I would say that that was symbolic and representative of the objective movement to the new place, the new environment, and that it smoothly adapts.
NUNO: That was kind of along what my impression was for that part too. Is there an essence called Julius?
ELIAS: Yes. Why?
NUNO: Somehow—Repeat?
ELIAS: Why?
NUNO: Because I made a considerable mistake in my interpretation. Well, it wasn’t really my interpretation, my discussion with you in thought about this dream. And obviously I got it all wrong, because in that hypothetical or imaginary discussion I was told that the two pilots were actually twin essences, and one is called Julius and the other called Julian, were the names of those twins. And I have been engaging some energy which I call Julius. I don’t know what this energy is, but I do believe it is not my own energy that I am engaging there.
ELIAS: I would agree. And it’s understandable that you would see this imagery of twins and that you would automatically make an association of twin essences. That’s very understandable.
NUNO: It doesn’t really help a lot though.
ELIAS: Actually it does because you brought it up as part of our conversation and I can definitely validate that yes, these essences do exist and that they are real and that what you are engaging is real also.
NUNO: So they are twins?
ELIAS: Yes. Twin essences, yes.
NUNO: It was interesting because it was like I got the name Julius as an impression rather than from somewhere else. Anyway, I’ve been engaging Julius because my impression or my information, perhaps incorrect, was that it didn’t matter which of the two I engage. They’re synonyms, in other words. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Mm, close. Yes.
NUNO: Should I be engaging them simultaneously instead?
ELIAS: No, not necessarily. It’s your choice. I would say that how you’re proceeding thus far is very good.
NUNO: I had a discussion with Julius. First of all, my impression was that Julius is an essence that is, in a manner of speaking, rather ancient, one of the earlier essences. Is that correct?
ELIAS: I understand. Yes.
NUNO: I mean obviously I knew that this was in relation to… The information I have was this is in relation to help me disengage. And I asked him how this was to be helpful, because at this point I’m kind of a little bit skeptical because I’ve been through a number of different essences to assist me with this. And the information was that this essence is in some respects more powerful and more willing to use that power in a manner that other essences may be reluctant to.
ELIAS: Understood. Yes, I would agree.
NUNO: And I asked, “Well, what is the process in this?” And the process, he said, “Well, there’s going to be some adjustments made to your body,” and that the intention would be to put me into a coma, because in a coma it’s much easier to release the body consciousness.
ELIAS: I would agree.
NUNO: So I have been engaging this essence for that purpose, and one of the things I find is I almost always fall asleep during that, which I’m not sure if that’s good or not. Probably not so good.
ELIAS: I would disagree. I would say that it is.
NUNO: I guess a sleep state is in some respects similar to a coma. Obviously it’s not the same, but it’s something like that.
ELIAS: I would agree.
NUNO: So I haven’t been wasting my time on this. That’s good.
ELIAS: No.
NUNO: All right. So that’s quite positive then. So let me ask you then what progress is being made with that, in my engagement with this essence?
ELIAS: I’d say that you are making progress, that I would also say the factor that you consistently fall asleep is a significant indicator that you are cooperating with this other essence and that you are trusting that process.
NUNO: I do feel that that’s what I am doing. Another thing is, that I have been doing in the meditation, is using a meditation with the intent to go deeper and deeper into the subjective. And I find this is actually quite a good meditation for me in that I do feel myself going in that direction after I exit the meditation.
ELIAS: Excellent.
NUNO: It does have a very calming effect on me. But my question is: is this actually helpful to me to disengage?
ELIAS: Yes. I would say that that may be a helpful type of meditation to be engaging while you’re engaging with this other essence, because it is allowing you to actually be engaging the subjective more, which is good.
NUNO: I have a question about realities like Nova. Like new realities are created, and this reality is being created at a specific time and it is going to be inserted in time at the point at which I arrive there. And at that time, there’s going to be already billions of people in that world and almost all of those people will be older than the reality itself. Many of them will be considerably older than the reality itself, but they will have memories that predate the beginning of the reality in time. Therefore, are those memories that they have, they’ve been inserted into the focuses, and they didn’t actually experience those experiences that they memories of, but it is effectively the same because they have the memory of those experiences. Is that correct?
ELIAS: They do have the experience of the memories. They simply have the experiences of those memories in a slightly different reality, one of the parallel realities.
NUNO: And is that what happens every time a reality is created in that manner?
ELIAS: It depends on what is being created in the reality but yes, it does happen quite frequently.
NUNO: So the focuses in that reality are in a sense probable selves of another reality?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: I had a discussion with Tingua some time ago and she said to me, “We are one.”
ELIAS: Repeat.
NUNO: I had a discussion with Tingua some time ago and she says to me, “We are one.” And she explains that what she means by that is more than just interconnectedness that all essences experience. And then as a demonstration, she did something with the energy she projected to me and I feel very heavy for about a minute. My body feels almost like it’s twice its weight and it’s a very unusual sensation. And then later she explains to me what she meant by that, and that we are one. And she said it’s because we share the same energy. That we are essences that our energy is one. We just share the energy. Can you tell me if any of this is correct?
ELIAS: Yes. I would say all of it is.
NUNO: That’s very interesting. Is this unusual?
ELIAS: No, but it’s unusual to actually engage another essence and to have that information and be aware of it objectively.
NUNO: Well, that’s just a matter of my discussion with her. Anybody could do that.
ELIAS: I would agree, but once again the factor that anybody can do something doesn’t mean that they do. And there are many things that people can do but only a few of you do it. Therefore I would say that this is a significant movement and it is unusual, but it also is something that is understandable in relation to your movement and what you’re doing. You’re not only moving to another time. You’re generating a significant amount of movement in yourself to accomplish that, and a significant amount of increase in self-awareness.
NUNO: That’s interesting. I also had a discussion with Tingua about brain capacity utilization, which some time ago you said in this reality was about twelve and a half percent, I think, one-eighth?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: I want to insert into Nova that brain capacity utilization is greater in that reality. I wasn’t sure what would be realistic for that reality.
ELIAS: It would be anyway, because of the time factor.
NUNO: Right. Yeah, I understand that. It would be increased, but by how much? And so I had this discussion with Tingua about that because I was unsure about how much I should try and insert. And what she said basically was well, you can insert something that is likely excessive and unrealistic and what’ll happen is that the reality will be created with the maximum that it can support. So I’ve decided like 35%, which is probably pretty wild. And she felt that realistically it’d be something like maybe 27% or so.
ELIAS: I would agree.
NUNO: With all of that?
ELIAS: I would agree with all of your discussion, and the realistic assessment of the brain use in that time framework.
NUNO: The brain, like you said, is part of the body consciousness. It’s something physical. And you’ve said the body consciousness doesn’t think. It doesn’t choose. It doesn’t do any of that, so—
ELIAS: Correct, because thinking isn’t coming from your brain.
NUNO: No, I understand that. But I’m getting to that. And so, that all comes from the mind and—
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: And therefore what exactly does increased brain utilization do to the focus?
ELIAS: Ah. That has to do with your increase of neurological pathways. The more you increase your neurological pathways, the more you are also increasing the function of the brain and the usage of it.
NUNO: I thought it was something along those lines. I read some older sessions from you quite some ago in which you talk about disengaging and you talk about the moment of choice. You refer to it as the moment in which the person is completely neutral and makes the decision whether to disengage or not. What I don’t understand in that is because of what you’ve said to me more recently in that there is this, I call it a mechanism, whatever you want to call it, it doesn’t matter, this mechanism in the body that is kind of like a safeguard that prevents it from disengaging. What I’m trying to understand is, that mechanism that attempts to protect the body by preventing it from disengaging, there must be some instances in which that stops doing that.
ELIAS: Of course.
NUNO: So what is it that allows to turn that thing off?
ELIAS: It turns off, in a manner of speaking, in relation to what you would assess as natural death. And let me express that a natural death doesn’t mean dying in your sleep. It could be in a car crash or some other type of crash or you could be eaten by an animal or anything that, that is a choice of disengaging that is not something that you would term to be suicide. But even in certain types of death that are not immediate, the body will engage that fight to continue. But that can be actually easily overridden if the individual moves in a direction of what you would term to be completely giving up and therefore not fighting for life. And usually when the individual moves in that direction, they don’t linger for long. They usually die relatively quickly.
NUNO: I don’t think I’m fighting for anything in particular right now.
ELIAS: I agree. But you also have not entirely given up on life. Therefore that does create somewhat of a fight with the body in which it continues to maintain the life.
NUNO: Okay. So how do I give up?
ELIAS: That’s an interesting question. I would say that it’s actually genuinely the same as giving up on anything. If you have a project and you are frustrated with it and it’s not working and you decide that’s enough. You don’t want to engage this project any longer and you give up and you walk away from it.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
ELIAS: The feeling that you have when you do something such as that – and it doesn’t have to be in relation to frustration. I would say that you might simply give up on an idea or a direction because it doesn’t interest you any longer and you simply give up. It’s the same feeling, in a manner of speaking, because the feeling does, in a manner, echo that resignation, in a manner of speaking. And the feeling is one of detachment, in which for one reason or another you are letting go of that particular direction that you were engaging and in a manner of speaking the action that you’re doing is throwing it away. And generally speaking, when you throw something away you don’t think about it any longer. It’s gone from your awareness. It’s gone from your involvement. It’s simply gone. And in that, that resignation creates this feeling that this is so unimportant to you that you have simply thrown it away.
You have the piece of you don’t want it anymore. You definitely have that piece. I would say that you don’t quite have the piece of throwing it away, as if it this was a ball.
NUNO: And the “it” you’re talking about here is the life?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Sorry, I interrupted you there. Could you continue please?
ELIAS: I would say that it’s… It’s definitely an aspect of resignation. You can look at an example of an individual that has some type of terminal cancer or some other terminal disease. And in that, they may be fighting for a time and then there comes a point that they stop. And when I say fighting, it’s simply that they’re continuing to hold onto that will to live. But then there comes a point in which they stop. There’s a turn of resignation, that they give up and they are in a different direction entirely and they are in a manner of speaking, welcoming death. And they generally do die relatively quickly once they do that.
But this is a difficult situation for you because you’re not exactly in the direction of accepting death. You intellectually understand that, but what I would say is up to this point you’ve been accepting that concept, let us say, of death as the death of your body. But it has to be the death of all of you, your entire self. Because you are leaving this self and this reality to insert yourself into a different reality, a different body and a different self. Meaning the self is your identity in this reality. It’s who you perceive yourself to be. It’s associated with everything that you would express is you, everything. And that’s involving your mind because that’s what is holding that information of you, who you are, your personality, your gender identity, everything that is a part of your identity in this reality.
In this, as I said, it’s not simply your body that has to die. It’s all of you, the whole of you, that has to die and move on. You’re leaving this identity to take on a different identity in a different reality in a different time framework.
Now; yes, you still have the aspects and components of yourself that you want to keep and that you want to insert into that reality, but you’re not going to take the identical same personality. You’re not going to take the identical same you. You’re going to take the knowledge of you, but you’re going to incorporate a different personality. You’re not going to be the identical same you as you are now.
NUNO: Okay. I understand. That’s actually quite a different perspective than I had about the process.
ELIAS: I know.
NUNO: (Laughs) So that’s (Elias laughs) very valuable information. Very quick question here: I have an impression that surface people are a large percentage of the population. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes, that is correct.
NUNO: I would say 82%?
ELIAS: I’d say slightly less, more towards 75%.
NUNO: Oh, okay. Oh, I guess I can’t get them always right. (Elias laughs) Thank you so much. It’s been a pleasure speaking with you again.
ELIAS: You are exceptionally welcome, my friend. And I would echo you in expressing that it has been a pleasure for myself also. (Chuckles)
I am as always encouraging you thoroughly, and supporting your movement in every moment. And in that, I would express to you that you will also carry with you our friendship, which is quite dear.
In tremendous, tremendous love and great affection to you, my dear, dear friend, au revoir.
NUNO: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 1 hour 6 minutes)
Note 1 from Nuno: In Session 202410131 Elias confirms that I had created six probable selves in this lifetime up to that time. His comment in this session that I have many more alludes to the fact that each probable self creates their own probable selves, and therefore the total number of probable selves is much greater than the ones I created in this particular life. My impression is that this new probable self was created because I recently chose to make a large shift towards the subjective and reduce separation, something that has had a significant effect on my personality and access to subjective information.
Note 2 from Nuno: After the session, I considered what Elias said was the symbolic meaning of the two elderly pilots, but I remained convinced they represented the twin essences Julius and Julian, which Elias later in the session confirms I am engaging. I held this opinion because Elias' explanation that they represented the objective and subjective awarenesses didn't provide new information to me. I was already aware of these two awarenesses being what Elias states in the session. Therefore, the presentment of this information to me in a dream that was intended for me to remember in detail seemed unlikely and unnecessary. Additionally, the dream imagery of airplanes and pilots has been used exclusively for a long time now in relation to my movement to Nova. However, after further consideration, I realized that the subject of reducing separation is, in fact, quite significant to me and I had been giving a lot of thought to it for some time and I was determined to reduce separation, particularly in Nova. (In Nova, I have set the separation to be zero or very close to zero.) I now believe this dream had a double meaning, the one Elias states in the session, and it was also intended to prompt me to connect with these twin essences. I had no awareness of these twin essences until I had this dream.
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