Tuesday, January 14, 2025 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anon

(Audio starts partway through session)

ELIAS: Continuing.

ANON: So I wanted to ask about the energy of the LA fires and what is going on there and the symbolism, imagery and all that.

ELIAS: What I will say to that is first of all, this has been a buildup of energy for quite some time. It’s been a building of not paying attention and being reckless. I would say that this began decades and decades ago. That this state, the people and the energy in this state, there is a very strong energy of entitlement and competitiveness and that permeates everything. It’s not only one industry or another industry or one business or another business. It’s something that has been permeated through everything. And the competition is not the type of competition that is simple and encouraging or motivating. It’s the type of competition that is more cutthroat. It’s pirate competition. It’s pirate energy, and it’s been building for decades and decades.

And in that, what that has done is it has translated into being very entitled and not paying attention to what the people are doing to their environment, and not paying attention to what their environment can sustain and what it can’t, and playing with the environment in a manner that is a fantasy and is, in a manner of speaking, irresponsible to self. When people are not responsible to self, it ripples out to everything else.

Now, what I would say in that is when you have an environment that you have raged so much that you have created an entirely different environment – which let me express to you, I’m not expressing any judgment about that. It is your choice, not yours personally but you understand. It is the choice of the inhabitants, what they want to do with their environment. And in that, in this particular environment, in the southern portion of your state more so than the northern portion – although they do it in the northern portion also – but especially in the southern portion of the state, you have changed farmland into desert. Make no mistake that the entirety of the southern half of the state has been transformed into a desert, but the people that inhabit it refuse to acknowledge that.

Therefore what has ensued, in I would say the last six decades, for the most part – and understand: before that, the environment was very different and the things that you see now in your environment and in your life were not a regular occurrence before. Earthquakes, fires, mudslides, drought, these were not a part of the southern half of the state prior to six decades ago. I would say perhaps in that seventh decade it was beginning, but it actually could have been altered at that point and it would have not moved in the direction of becoming a desert and desolate. But that was not the choice that the masses made. And in that, for the last six decades you have witnessed and experienced significant increases in these disasters. And in that, I would say that no one is immune from that. They’re all participating and continue to participate in an entitled manner.

Now, that doesn’t mean that everyone is expressing that energy, but there are a considerable number of masses that are. And therefore everyone suffers, because of the majority of people that do express that energy of entitlement.

I have been expressing information about climate change for decades. And I would say that the individuals that are expressing in mass in relation to the coastline of that state paid no attention. They give lip service, but they continue to live in the same capacity that they have for six decades or more. They don’t change. They keep doing the same behaviors. And what are those behaviors? They are behaviors that contribute to the very things that cause these fires: drought. Trees are an enormous factor in relation to attracting water. When you cut down all the trees, you also divert the jet streams that would be bringing water to that land that was farmland, and very productive farmland for generations. Not any longer, because what sits on all of that farmland now? (Pause)

ANON: Are you still there? Hello? Hello?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: I’m sorry. I didn’t hear you speak any longer.

ELIAS: What sits on that farmland now?

ANON: Houses?

ELIAS: Houses and industries, and more houses and more industry, and no trees. And houses and industry. And in that, I would say that this is the consequence that people create in relation to that self-entitlement. And that self-entitlement is crashing down upon all of you in more capacities than fires. That is tremendously, tremendously destructive and devastating.

But look at your industries, they are also. And the lack of humanity towards each other, and the movement of people moving in a direction of speaking out against that. It’s not only physical disasters.

And many of those physical disasters are not natural. Many of your fires are the result of a fire starter, which is also very much connected to that energy of that self-entitled, because then there are the opposite people that are also interplaying with that entitlement that are the victims. And the victims become angry, and some of them move in directions of what they perceive to be retribution. And what do they do? They become destructive and they become fire starters, because it’s easy.

ANON: I’m sorry. Could you repeat that last sentence? Because they become?

ELIAS: Fire starters, because it’s easy.

ANON: Ah.

ELIAS: It’s something that is well known. It’s something that they can actually do. They can’t necessarily create an earthquake, but they can certainly create a fire. And even a small fire can turn into a raging inferno very quickly, and people know that.

And therefore the victims move in a direction of retaliation against the people that they perceive to be entitled. And they’re not incorrect in their perception of people being entitled, because there are masses of them. Masses and masses of them.

And in that, unfortunately there are also masses of people that suffer, that don’t necessarily express an energy of entitlement. Therefore what I would say is there is a considerable divide and a considerable lack of balance.

But I would also say that this particular state, in a manner of speaking, it reflects much of your country. (Pause) With all of the divide and all of the polarization and the extreme. And in that, it’s being a very good temperature measure for your entire country, or most of it. It’s also a matter of whether people pay attention or not, whether they begin to pay attention and whether they begin to pay attention in a manner of not simply looking at this one state and expressing to themselves, “Oh, it’s too bad that that’s happening,” or “That’s terrible that that’s happening,” but being so removed that they don’t actually care, because it’s not happening to them. But it is, in a different manner, and they don’t see it yet. (Pause)

I would say that it is a tragedy that this is what it comes to. And it is tragic and it deserves attention and it deserves a compassionate energy and it deserves change.

ANON: I’m sorry, could you repeat that last sentence? It deserves?

ELIAS: Change.

ANON: Change. (Pause)

ELIAS: It’s tragic that you and your family have been evacuated, more than once, and that you have that looming threat of losing everything that is dear and important to you, and not expressing that energy of entitlement. But the energy from the masses is very overpowering.

ANON: And what can we do as a group to—

ELIAS: I would say—

ANON: — change the energy, I guess?

ELIAS: I would say that the first piece is to not be complacent, and to begin conversations, to begin communicating. I would say that it is a matter of change. That doesn’t mean that you have to become an activist, but with the people that you know, your friends and family, to not be afraid to broach these subjects. That the longer that people continue to create a desert but live in a fantasy that it’s not a desert and that they don’t have to engage it as a desert, the longer you’re going to live in this state of fear.

What’s done is done. And as I’ve expressed about climate change, it’s not about reversing it. It’s not about changing it. It’s about moving with it, and this would be an excellent example of that. You’ve changed the environment into a desert. You don’t have the water supply that can support the infrastructure that you’ve created. Therefore it’s a matter of moving with what has been created rather than continuing to exist in this fantasy and having such destruction. Because the destruction will simply continue. It won’t stop until the people stop pretending that they don’t live in the environment that they do live in, and accept what they’ve created.

And THAT is the hardest piece, my dear friend, because people fight against the idea that they are participants in climate change. This is a very difficult subject to accept. And I would say to you very realistically, in that state, the masses put on a mask of being environmentally aware and then behave in the opposite.

Therefore what I would say is part of the solution is to communicate. And that is the first part and that is the part that is extremely difficult for most people. They don’t want to communicate. They don’t want to talk about it AND they don’t want to listen to other people express in the opposite. They don’t want to fight and you don’t have to fight, but they think they have to fight because they think that they’re going to be opposed – and they likely will be. And therefore they’re going to be opposed, they have to fight the people that are opposing them. That’s not the point. It’s not about fighting. It’s simply about expressing yourself. And the other people don’t have to agree with you, but the more you express, the more those seeds are planted.

AND as I have expressed many, many, many times, that energy ripples out, much farther than you realize. You can be having a conversation with your mother, and that ripples out to people throughout your entire state.

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