Dreams of Being Chased; Effects of Smoking on the Heart
Topics:
“Dreams of Being Chased”
“Objective Connection During Dream State”
“Cholesterol and Heart Issues”
“Effects of Smoking on the Heart”
Sunday, January 15, 2023 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Paul (Paneus)
ELIAS: Good morning!
PAUL: Hey! Good morning, Elias.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And how have you been proceeding, my friend?
PAUL: Oh, I’ve continued to explore the processes.
ELIAS: Ah! Which processes? (Laughs)
PAUL: Ah, life’s processes. I had an unusual dream last night that I just wanted to get your perspective on. It was multilayered and had quite a few different things. It would take pretty long to explain it all, but the crux, I think, was near the ending scene where these individuals that were chasing me to effect harm – and I’ve escaped from them, like on several different occasions in this dream – but I finally got to the point where I was effectively cornered, what I thought was cornered. And I’m facing this massive shaft that either I could be attacked by the people who were chasing me or jump down the shaft. And I decided well, I know it’s dangerous, I probably won’t survive it, but I’m going to, that’s the choice I’m going to take. And I dove down into this shaft, and as I was flying down I was not necessarily afraid. I was more like confident that I was going to meet my end when I splatted on the ground, but then there was a black cable that was hanging down that I was able to grab onto and land safely, and then again found an exit door at the bottom before it was going to fill with water, and again made another escape. What was going on? (Laughs) I know you’re going to ask me my opinion, but what’s the communication or imagery associated with this dream?
ELIAS: First of all, let me say to you that when people have dreams with strange imagery about being chased, about being pursued and chased by anything, whether it be by nefarious people or whether it be by an animal, when you have dreams about being chased in which you are, in a manner of speaking, running for your life, these types of dreams have the same faces or people.
Now; the content of that or the reason for that can be considerably different and is quite varied, but what these types of dreams are signaling you to is that there’s something that you’re very uncomfortable with. There’s something, generally speaking, that either you’ve been uncomfortable with throughout your life to a degree and it simply surfaces occasionally, or that if you haven’t had dreams that you’ve been chased in before, let us say that this would be the first, if that were the situation – which it’s not – but if it were, then that would be signaling you that there is something NOW that is very uncomfortable for you and that you are considerably bothered by.
Now; if it isn’t the first and only time that you’ve ever had a dream that you’ve been chased in, then generally speaking it’s a signal that something has come up again that you’re uncomfortable with. Generally speaking, these dreams have to do with some association that you make with yourself that there is something that is not entirely acceptable about you. Whether it be that you perceive other people think that there is something unacceptable about you or whether you believe that there is something unacceptable about you, there is something in relation to that.
And what happens is, when different things are occurring in your life at any given time that you’re uncomfortable with, it triggers that association again. And then you play it out in this type of dream, a dream in which you’re being pursued and that in being pursued, you’re fleeing, in a manner of speaking, for your life.
Now; generally speaking, what also happens is what happened in your dream, is that you will find either some type of escape route and you will end up coming to a safe place, in which you have escaped your pursuers and you’re safe, or you will find a hiding space and your pursuers will move past you and not notice you, and therefore you will also be safe. Generally speaking, you will find something that will allow you to move to safety and not be caught by your pursuers.
Now; in that, that is the piece of you reinforcing yourself that you can trust yourself and that you actually can move in a safe direction. Therefore, that is generally the outcome of these types of dreams and they generally are expressed in a manner that allows you to accomplish evading the pursuit of whatever it is that is dangerous to you.
The difficulty with these dreams is that they’re generally established for the most part when you’re young. And then what happens is you automatically play that out whenever you are uncomfortable or something is suggesting to you that something’s wrong with you or that you’re not entirely confident with yourself or that something is happening around you that is uncomfortable and that you don’t seem to be able to fix.
PAUL: So Elias, is the reason I got this dream is because my daughter had had me drive to the airport separately to get my grandson last night, because she didn’t want to drive with him in the car because she’s afraid of him throwing up from the long air travel flight? And I was frustrated because it’s just… Well, it’s a burden for me to have to drive there with my granddaughter in the car when she could have just driven by herself and picked him up. And so I always feel frustrated and because of her fear, she takes it, almost takes advantage of me. So is that aspect the reason why I got that dream?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: Okay, I understood that one. (Laughs) All right. So—
ELIAS: Excellent. Excellent.
PAUL: Yeah.
ELIAS: But I would say to you that this is good information to know for the future, for then if you have a dream in which you’re being pursued or you’re being chased, in that then you can look at what is happening in your life at that time and that will give you information about why you had that dream.
PAUL: Yeah, yeah. I think I understand that one.
Hey, I’ve got some real quick questions I figured I’d ask. You mentioned before that when you’re doing a time travel projection, you don’t want to project to the same vicinity as one of your other focuses. What is the proximity or limit to how close you could be by one of your other focuses? It could be like you could be within a mile? Or what is the, what’s the proximity limit of how close you could be to one of your other focuses?
ELIAS: I would say (pause) a distance enough that it would not be easy for you to walk. Therefore, I would say perhaps three or more miles. If it’s easy for you to walk to the proximity of the other focus, then it – not that you would be doing that intentionally – but in that, if it’s too close and you can easily walk the distance, that puts you in a position in which you might be walking in a particular direction in exploring and not realize it objectively, that you could end up in that position.
PAUL: Yeah. Yeah. I’ve got it.
ELIAS: Therefore, I would say three or more miles.
PAUL: Okay.
ELIAS: For that would be not as easy for you to move in that direction.
PAUL: Okay. Hey, I had a dream of my so-called acquaintance of the (inaudible) Sophie and in that dream we’re… It’s pretty long and we’re actually being romantic, which is very odd, but the kicker was I was reaching out to her arm and stuff like that, and then she said, “No, no, no, no!” like didn’t want to let me touch her arms, and then the next day she broke her hand in a skiing event. Was that a… just like a premonition that I had picked up on? Or what was the imagery there?
ELIAS: Not necessarily a premonition. Let me express to you that that’s not actually what people do. But what I would say is that you can be tapping into energy and in that, you can be tapping into potential. Because of energy that an individual might be expressing, then that sets a direction for potential and in that, you could be tapping into that potential that she was moving in the direction of likely going to be generating some physical manifestation.
PAUL: Hm. So that was the overall theme of that dream?
ELIAS: I would say it was tapping into her energy and making a connection and—
PAUL: Objectively or subjectively?
ELIAS: (Pause) You were objectively making the connection. Not that she was aware that she was going to move in that direction of generating some type of physical manifestation, but that her energy was already moving in that direction.
Whenever you do anything, it doesn’t matter what it is, you are energetically moving in a direction a significant time before the actual manifestations occur.
PAUL: Mm. Okay. The… Okay. There’s no other, there’s no other objective aspects on her side? I was trying to figure out why to portray this as a lengthy dream with that—
ELIAS: I would say that it was actually you connecting with her. You do that frequently. And in connecting with her, you were simply engaging in different imagery and I would say playing out that connection.
PAUL: Okay. Okay. Hey, I went to a cardiologist for my so-called racing heart or a-fib, and he wanted to put me on, he wants to put me on some, you know, beta blocker in more traditional cholesterol medicine. But I’d like to keep trying what I’m currently doing but maybe increase it so… Have I or will I have an improvement and if so, what percentage of improvement, by going to regular niacin instead of the no-flush niacin? And then a 50% increase in my red yeast rice. What percent improvement in my reduction of bad cholesterol should that be? (Pause)
Elias, did you hear my question?
ELIAS: I did. I am evaluating what is the most effective answer.
PAUL: (Laughs) Okay. That’s good. Okay.
ELIAS: I would say that the reason being is that first of all, as you’re aware, I’m not fond of percentages.
PAUL: Yeah, I know.
ELIAS: And in that, I’m evaluating your direction, what precisely you’re asking for. Are you asking for something to be an encouragement? Or are you asking for what you could be doing that will be generating a similar outcome to what the physician is expressing by wanting you to be engaging with that particular type of medication?
PAUL: Yeah, I guess the—
ELIAS: First of all, let me ask you: what is your aversion to it?
PAUL: Aversion of going to the beta blocker and the traditional statin drugs? Just that the side effects would be—
ELIAS: The statins I understand, although I would say that have you engaged a statin previously?
PAUL: I’ve taken the red yeast rice, which is a natural statin. I might have years ago tried a traditional statin. I just… I don’t remember exactly but if I did, I didn’t stay on it. I don’t remember.
ELIAS: And was, if you did and that you didn’t continue with it, was it because you had some type of reaction?
PAUL: Yeah, again I don’t remember if I did take one. I don’t… Honestly, when I think about it I don’t think I took—
ELIAS: The reason that I am asking, the reason that I am asking you that is because I would say that the, this particular type of medication, people have an aversion to it because they have the idea of side effects, and that the side effects are bad. And in that, what I would say is that they have the idea of the side effects because there are some people that do experience side effects from these particular types of medication.
Now; in that, not everyone does.
PAUL: Mm-hm. I understand that.
ELIAS: And in that, for some individuals it can be the most effective, efficient and easiest direction to be addressing to a situation that they’ve already created in physical manifestations.
Now; if you are an individual that is going to have a reaction to a statin, it would be immediate and it’s definitely something that is considerably noticeable. It’s not something that you’ll miss. You’ll know immediately that you are not an individual that can actually engage with that type of medication. And the physicians are aware also that if you have certain types of reactions, they won’t encourage you to be engaging that medication.
But what I would say is, if you’re asking about engaging with what you identify as a natural statin and that you are engaging that and that you’re comfortable with that, and if that can produce the same effects, what I would say to you is yes it can, but it will require a longer period of time to actually generate the same degree of effect. Therefore, you have to take more and for longer.
Now; I do understand that when a physician in your present time framework prescribes a statin for you, that they intend you to be engaging that medication for the rest of your life. I would say that even with a natural one, it would likely be the same. It’s not something that you could be engaging and do that for a temporary time framework and then stop.
PAUL: So let me ask a question on that. So if I switched over to the traditional statin, like a Crestor or Lipitor, and stopped taking the red yeast rice, would that in effect be a problem for me then? By stopping the red yeast rice?
ELIAS: I would say no, it shouldn’t be.
PAUL: Okay. Well, it sounds like—
ELIAS: But it is a matter of preference, and I’m not expressing to you that if your preference is to engage what you’re engaging now, that is acceptable also. I’m merely expressing to you that in order for that to do the same as the medication that the physician would prescribe for you, you simply have to engage more of it and it simply incorporates more time to reach the same result.
PAUL: Okay. We will talk about this one further, because I do have one more question before I run out of time. My a-fib trigger, the last couple times I’ve had this racing heart or a-fib, were the triggers associated with a – the last one for sure – was it associated with a food I ate? I thought it might be.
ELIAS: (Pause) And what did you think it might be?
PAUL: Well, I think the food that gave me a bit of that diarrhea, the runs the next day, so I thought maybe the… something in the food might have, again, caused the racing heart aspect.
ELIAS: No. No. No. I would say that unless you were having some type of extreme allergic reaction to some food source – even it that, it would be unlikely.
PAUL: What was the cause of the last one?
ELIAS: It would be unlikely that you would have that type of a reaction.
PAUL: What was the cause for the last racing heart incident I had, where it bothered me for like, I don’t know, like an hour or two or something like that?
ELIAS: Actually what happened is that your heart is already, in your terminology, working too hard. It’s not resting. And what happens is at times because it’s not resting it, in a manner of speaking, glitches and it starts revving. It’s very similar in actuality to what happens when the engine of a vehicle revs and then you press quickly on the accelerator and it stops and it moves back into its normal calm. I would say it’s very similar to that. Your heart is doing a very similar action. And in that, you can, or within your body you’re automatically at a certain point generating an action with your heart that causes it to stop and to move back into its normal function at its normal rate.
Now; normal rate is still too high because its normal rate at this point is that it’s working harder than it should be.
PAUL: And that’s why he’s, at least my doctor has talked about he might want to prescribe beta blockers which lowers the force of the heart’s pumping pressure. I think it’s what it is?
ELIAS: Yes.
PAUL: So…
ELIAS: And the reason for that is because your heart has moved in a direction – and this has many factors that contribute to this. Part of it is smoking. What happens is your heart is working harder than it should be. It’s because it’s not resting. Your heart actually generates rest points. This is the reason that you hear that rhythm of your heartbeat, that in a normal rhythm of your heartbeat it’s slower, it’s less intense and in that, it’s resting in between beats.
PAUL: So, Elias—
ELIAS: Your heart is not resting.
PAUL: And is it…? So you’re…? My cause is the nicotine I’m taking in? But I only, I don’t smoke as much as I used to. I only smoke like two or three cigarettes a night.
ELIAS: It doesn’t matter. You think that if you are smoking very little, that it won’t be affecting or it won’t be as affecting. You don’t actually allow yourself to recognize that with certain substances, and tobacco is one of them and all of the chemicals that are incorporated with the tobacco, but even if they, even if you were able to be smoking with no chemicals, which is not possible in your present time framework, but even if you were doing that, it still wouldn’t matter because tobacco in itself is something that it is a type of substances that is accumulative. There are different substances in your world that if you are engaging them over time, they are accumulative. And therefore it doesn’t matter. You could be smoking one cigarette a day or having one cigar every other day or smoking a pipe two or three times a week, and it wouldn’t matter, because this is a substance that IS accumulative and therefore in that, it’s going to be affecting.
PAUL: Okay. So I think the overall message – and I’m out of time, so I apologize. Maybe you want to expand on this but… So it sounds like I need to (laughs) to prevent the a-fib or the racing heart, I’ll have to effectively end smoking entirely?
ELIAS: I would agree.
PAUL: Okay. Elias, I’m out of time. I’m going to have to really do some soul-searching on this one to move past the cigarette smoking, to be honest.
ELIAS: Very well.
PAUL: And I look forward to our next call, and I appreciate our time together.
ELIAS: As do I. As do I, my dear friend. And I express tremendous, tremendous encouragement to you. And I shall be offering my energy to you in constant support.
PAUL: Thanks, Elias.
ELIAS: In great (inaudible) to you and dear friendship as always, au revoir.
PAUL: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 38 minutes)
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