Laszlo Developments
Topics:
“Laszlo Developments”
“Animal Imagery of a Safe Place”
“Weight Loss and Well-Being Recommendations: Water Foods, Exercise, Mindset, Meditation”
“ANKARRAH in Hospital”
Saturday, June 11, 2022 (Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Scotty (Ashtaria)
ELIAS: Good morning!
SCOTTY: Hi! Good morning, Elias!
ELIAS: How shall we begin?
SCOTTY: I know in our last conversation we touched on reviewing one of my trauma memories, and you gave me that exercise to feel into that.
ELIAS: Yes.
SCOTTY: I didn't really want to have to touch back into that today; maybe next time, if that's okay.
ELIAS: Very well.
SCOTTY: But Laszlo has sort of come back and popped in a few times and delivered some mini monologues, 10 minutes or so each time, so that's really exciting.
ELIAS: And how are you feeling in engaging with that?
SCOTTY: I feel fine. The piece that I'm still hoping will alter at some point is that now I'm fully able to hear the conversation or hear his delivery, and obviously that's not my preference if I was to be engaging sessions with people. But for the moment I'm fine with it being like that, and I understand that maybe down the line that might change.
ELIAS: Very well. And actually, I would say, if you are comfortable with how you are engaging with this essence in this manner, perhaps you may entertain ideas of alternatives. Perhaps you might want to move in a direction of engaging with that essence and writing books, or creating audios for other people but not engaging with other people. Are you understanding?
SCOTTY: I am, I am, because I can't get over the idea that if I'm able to hear the conversation, or hear him speaking, that I'm somehow participating in influencing the information. I can't get myself over the idea of there could be distortion and that I would be willingly participating in that if I was engaging in sessions with other people. So, for the moment I'm fine with just Laszlo and myself, and him talking and me recording it that way and presenting sessions like that.
ELIAS: Precisely, which is what I mean, that that might be a viable alternative for you that you would be comfortable with – that you could continue in that direction and perhaps turn it into the format of a book or turn it into generating audios instead of a book. Are you understanding that?
SCOTTY: I am. I am.
ELIAS: That might be a direction that would be more comfortable for you.
SCOTTY: Yeah. And I'm still moving towards what you and I had spoken about, of me moving and relaxing considerably and moving my attention away prior to him coming through and speaking, and that hasn't happened yet even though it's been nine months of my moving in that direction, so I'm still moving in that way. But I now know that it just can't just happen; it's a very, very gradual process in order to be safe and the most comfortable for me. So yeah, obviously with the goal for me being in a similar vein to yourself with Michael where his consciousness is mostly out of the way so that he doesn’t hear the conversation, that's obviously my goal, but for the meantime, I'd rather not engage other people for sessions if it's in this format, and that's fine.
ELIAS: I agree! Yes. And that's the reason that I would express that you might want to entertain the idea of other avenues instead of engaging with other people – or in the meantime UNTIL you are comfortable to engage other people, if you ever will.
SCOTTY: Yeah.
ELIAS: That's entirely up to you, but I would say that it's something that you could evaluate and entertain, that there are other possibilities and other avenues that you can engage. You don't have to be engaging with other people. Because that does, as you know, present another element unto itself also, because then you are also engaging with other people's energy and their expressions and their directions and their personalities, and that's something to also consider whether you want to engage with that or not.
SCOTTY: And I think the factor that's probably more deciding in that is that currently my body feels okay, and so in engaging another person for sessions – which I did almost 270 sessions last year – and I'm not saying that's what caused all the uncomfortableness but [with] the added factor of another person's energy, I think at the moment I'm just going to leave how it is with me recording, and then I'm not having to buffer somebody else's energy in a way that might be affecting. I can, you know, just deal with my own energy.
ELIAS: Correct. Correct.
SCOTTY: But Laszlo is using that somewhat technical terminology as when he first started. I guess he's engaging his attorney focus again, Albert Winklemeyer. (Both laugh) I'm definitely having to use my dictionary to look up certain words, which is actually fun.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) And always presenting a challenge.
SCOTTY: I was like, “Okay, what is that word?” Some of the dates and things are just obviously things that I actually wanted to check with you about. This is one thing that Laszlo said a couple of weeks ago in a session: “You may trace your existence in this dimension to a single point of origin that you would know as (I think he said) 14 or (it could be) 40 million years ago. This is when you decided to play this game and create this dimension, and you do not have accurate historical evidence from that moment in your time.” What did he mean by 14 or 40 million years ago? Is that a date that's accurate, in some respect?
ELIAS: Fourteen million? (Pause) That would be… Yes, that would be accurate, although he was expressing about the accountable history? Ah! One moment. He is expressing about the accountable history to this date, to this time, therefore that you presently don't have an accountable history to substantiate that yet.
SCOTTY: Meaning what? That we do have evidence of history up to that point but not after, or…?
ELIAS: You don't have evidence of YOUR history, not the history of the world - your history. Your history as humans, your history as people or as humans, I would say. You don't have evidentiary accountability of that time yet. You can't trace your history as humans back 14 million years yet.
SCOTTY: Okay. Okay.
ELIAS: That doesn't mean that you didn't exist; it simply means you don't have evidence to support that history. Therefore, you don't have a recorded history of yourselves in that time.
SCOTTY: Okay. I understand.
ELIAS: Therefore yes, I would agree.
SCOTTY: And then he also said, “And in looking at ‘where have I sprung from?,’ actually your answer is very simple. This you would know as your ‘eternal illumination of self’ that always was and always is and always will be.” And – [airplane noise overhead] sorry , that's President Biden just flying over here in Los Angeles. It's a little loud with his helicopters. Okay. I've never heard “eternal illumination of self,” but that sounded a nice way to –
ELIAS: I would say that's simply different terminology for essence. And in that, I would also express that, in the manner in which that is being expressed in the context of that, I would say that what is being referred to is essence and moving in the direction of the originals, in a manner of speaking.
SCOTTY: “The originals” being… ?
ELIAS: Original beings of you.
SCOTTY: Oh, okay. I think I understand what you're saying.
ELIAS: Therefore in a manner of speaking, not quite Dream Walkers, because he's speaking of you, the beings of you. Therefore, in that, he's referring to your original beings – which, as you know, were very different from you now. Original humans were considerably different from what you are now. But in that, what he is expressing by that type of terminology is that even though those were experimental beings of you, they still were essentially you. They are still essence.
SCOTTY: Yeah. Elias, there was one Laszlo pop-in at the beginning of last week. Unfortunately, I can't really hear the audio because I was on a cruise ship and I was sitting in an empty lounge next to a water fountain. It's just really loud. (Both laugh) I know: “the life,” huh?
ELIAS: I would say that’s inconvenient. (Laughs)
SCOTTY: It is inconvenient. I was trying to pick out words, and so I'm not sure if I heard correctly. He was talking about the origin of our species and different experimentations of physical form. There was some date in there, and I couldn't hear if it was 50,000 or 57,000 years ago. Is there a date at that time where we were really proactively engaging in different forms of experimentation? Or was that a beginning point? Or does that extend much, much further in history?
ELIAS: I would say that actually your history extends farther back than that date. But I would say that in that time framework, 57,000, that there is and likely will soon become evidenced of historical remains that will support that yes, you were at that time not simply a Neanderthal, that you were actually at that point in a direction of being functional and creating culture.
SCOTTY: Oh, I understand. Okay. Well, I'm going to continue to engage Laszlo in the same way that I am currently and see where that goes without any expectation. (Chuckles)
ELIAS: Excellent! I would say congratulations that you are engaging and that you have engaged in a manner that is comfortable for you.
SCOTTY: Yeah. That's kind of –
ELIAS: That is significant, my friend, because I'm aware that this has been difficult for you from the beginning, which is not unusual. This is what I have expressed to many individuals. An energy exchange is difficult for humans. It does require a significant adjustment.
SCOTTY: And time for that adjustment.
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
SCOTTY: Okay, great. I'll continue with that. Elias, I wanted to check some animal imagery with you, and this is the one thing where my impressions tend to let me down in my interpretation, so I'm going to ask you if that's okay?
ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well.
SCOTTY: There was this possum outside our house during the day, which is unusual in itself because they're nocturnal, and it was just wandering around at the back of the house and I saw it. And then I came back about 30 minutes later and it had died. It was laying there not moving and definitely not breathing. A little bit later I was able to very calmly, with some instructions from Lyla, lift it by its tail and put it into a garbage bag and into the trash. What is the significance for me, or also maybe me and my partner, with that possum dying?
ELIAS: (Pause) And what ARE your impressions?
SCOTTY: I don't know. I guess the obvious ones are, you know, rebirth type of thing or cooperation between himself and myself. I was trying to think about qualities of a possum that I could look at as associations. I always think they're quite violent and scary, but Lyla was telling me actually they're very nurturing and sweet animals.
ELIAS: Actually, that is correct. They're very family oriented.
SCOTTY: That's what she said.
ELIAS: They are fierce defenders of their family, but they are very docile animals. And in that, that's the reason that they pretend to be dead when they're threatened. Instead of attacking, or moving in a direction of even flight, they freeze and pretend to be dead until the threat is past. And in that, they definitely are not aggressive animals.
And I would say that most people are off put by their appearance and that they can APPEAR to be threatening or fearsome, but that's not what their personality is. But in that, I would say that yes, it's interesting that it chose to come to you before it died, and that is actually a show of trust for it to do that. I would say that that's something to… Actually, in your terms, it’s somewhat of an honor that the animal would do that and would display that trust, because they definitely are very shy, and they definitely would avoid humans tremendously. They recognize you as predators, and therefore they would be very wary of coming into contact with you, or being in your presence. I would say that being in your area, your territory and giving itself up to you in that manner would be… You could interpret that as being somewhat symbolic of a safe place.
SCOTTY: Okay. Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, for you and your partner I would say you have a safe place and that you are safe individuals.
SCOTTY: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
Now, when I came back from vacation last week, there was a devoured bird on my front doorstep on the mat outside, and there were bits of bone and gristle and blood and blah blah blah, but the wings were perfectly just left sitting unfolded side by side. What is THAT imagery for me?
ELIAS: I would say in contrary to what you might think, it was a gift. (Chuckles)
SCOTTY: Okay, thanks!
ELIAS: It was a gift of sharing.
SCOTTY: From a cat or whatever had caught it?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes, actually from a neighborhood cat.
SCOTTY: Okay. Well, thanks kitty, it went straight in the garbage, but I –
ELIAS: Actually, I would say that this is another display very similar, that it's a recognition that your area is a safe place. Because the cat would not necessarily deposit its kill in a place that it didn't deem to be a safe place, or that it would think that its offering would not be accepted. Therefore, it views you as being safe and therefore chose to share. (Laughs)
SCOTTY: Aw. Thanks, kitty, unfortunately I dumped even the mat in the trash; it wasn't even worth trying to clean. But thanks, kitty! (Both laugh)
Elias, moving on, I know Ann asked you about foods, and the other day [with] those top five I made a meal of the fish and wild rice and avocado and egg and spinach, and it was delicious. (Elias laughs) Now, I know she had asked you for five, and it seemed like you could have maybe mentioned some more there. I'd like to ask you for my partner Jeremiah, for Jonas, what would the 10 best foods be for him for health, but more so for him to be able to lose weight, being his primary goal?
ELIAS: Being the primary goal to lose weight? I would encourage him in relation to water foods. Therefore, he can snack on grapes or watermelon – not cantaloupe; that's different. It is a water food, but also is somewhat of a fattening water food. (Laughs) I would say almost all fruits, almost all vegetables. I would definitely encourage him to be moving in the direction of, as much as possible, whole foods – therefore, only foods with one ingredient: a peach or a watermelon, or a piece of fish or a piece of chicken. I would say that for the most part as much as he possibly can to be engaging whole foods and to move in the direction as much as possible of whole foods that are water foods, because denser foods are more difficult to engage if you want to be losing weight.
In this, I would also express if he is engaging with water foods, then the next piece is the exercise piece. He doesn't have to exercise in a formal capacity such as a gym. But in this, what I would suggest is that he engage a trampoline, and in that he can begin slowly, and he can build his endurance with jumping on the trampoline. He doesn't have to have a large trampoline. He can incorporate a small personal trampoline, and even one that has a handlebar if he feels unsteady to begin with. I would say that in addition to engaging the trampoline, it would be excellent for him to be walking briskly – not leisurely, but walking briskly once a day, every day, for approximately one-half of an hour to begin, and to increase that in increments until he is engaging one hour of walking every day.
I would say that in addition to that, if he would choose either yoga or Tai Chi – I would say Tai Chi, but it’s his preference. Or he might choose some type of martial arts; any of them would be excellent. And in that, he could engage that once a week and eventually increase that to three times a week. If he is engaging in these lifestyle changes, he will – he will lose weight.
SCOTTY: Yeah. He likes bike riding. We don't own bikes. Do you think that's a good thing?
ELIAS: That’s excellent, excellent.
SCOTTY: He's really good at that.
ELIAS: I would say biking and swimming.
SCOTTY: Oh, he loves swimming.
ELIAS: They are both excellent. Swimming is very good, because it uses so many different muscles.
SCOTTY: Elias, you didn't say eggs for him. Is that something he should avoid? Or you just didn't –
ELIAS: No, no, no, no, no. He shouldn’t avoid them. But I didn't express eggs because they are more of a dense food. But that is a dense food that he can be consuming that is also an excellent source of protein. Now, I would express all of the same foods that I expressed with Vivette except the avocado.
SCOTTY: Oh, why is that?
ELIAS: Because avocado does tend to settle with humans. If they are already overweight, it has a tendency to add to that. Now, once he begins to lose weight, once he's on that trajectory – it doesn't mean once he has accomplished his goal of how much weight he wants to lose, but simply once he's already in the motion of losing weight – therefore once he's already lost one pound, then he can add in avocado into his diet, because then the body already has the communication that that's what you're doing and it won’t store that food source as fat.
SCOTTY: Okay, I understand. Although he can lose a pound, Elias, just during his morning toilette. (Laughs)
ELIAS: I know, and I would say you know what I am expressing.
SCOTTY: Of course, of course, I'm just being silly. Elias, –
ELIAS: But I would also express this, that in relation to losing weight there's another component that is important, and that is the person's mindset. And in that, it is important to be in a positive mindset and not in a mindset of paying attention to the weight, but rather paying attention to your well-being. And I didn't say health, because that's not necessarily a high priority, yet, but well-being is. Therefore, I would say, paying attention to that, which means paying attention to feeling good.
I would also express including a daily meditation. He can begin with only five minutes and then be incrementally increased to eventually be approximately a half of an hour. But in that, I would say that this is a part of the well-being, because the meditation serves to center you. In that, he can generate an intention for the meditation daily. It doesn't matter what it is; it can be anything. It can be peace for the war in Ukraine, it can be wanting to see a robin in the yard, it can be anything. But in that, not to be thinking about that during the meditation, but simply to set an intention before the meditation and then simply engaging that centering that occurs when you are meditating. If he has difficulty with meditating … DOES he meditate?
SCOTTY: A little bit. I've attuned him to Reiki and assimilated him to ANKARRAH, so he's starting to use the ANKARRAH symbols. He finds the whole piece of quietening the mind quite challenging. He says that he relaxes by having input, so he relaxes by watching TV, he relaxes by having music on. I'm the opposite; I like to have silence or something where I don't have some type of input. But he's –
ELIAS: Very well, then I would suggest that he begins with sense meditation.
SCOTTY: Okay, I know what that is.
ELIAS: Meaning that he chooses one of his senses and concentrates on that sense for that amount of time, five minutes. And in that, whatever he is concentrating on, if it's sight then he has eyes open and he is looking at a focal point – to some focal point that's interesting, but not something that moves and not something to read, but something that will occupy the thought mechanism. Therefore, something that includes significant or intricate patterns.
SCOTTY: Okay, you gave me one of those some years ago about in sitting in the hot tub and just staring at the waterline tile and just recognizing if one tile is a little different or the patterns on those. It's a mild thinking –
ELIAS: That may be not enough for him.
SCOTTY: Okay.
ELIAS: That might not be enough to occupy his thought mechanism, and therefore [audio cut off] relax and be absorbed in what he's looking at. Or he can choose his sense of hearing and he can listen to outside sounds. It doesn't matter what they are, and it doesn't have to be only one type. He can be listening to lawnmowers and birds and vehicles; it doesn't matter. He's simply listening to all of the outside sounds. Or he can be using his sense of touch and feeling everything that is affecting his skin.
SCOTTY: Right. I know I can cue him through those. I'm familiar with your meditations in that capacity.
ELIAS: Very well. Excellent. Yes?
SCOTTY: Elias, can I move on, Elias? Just a couple of ANKARRAH things before we run out of time?
ELIAS: Yes.
SCOTTY: I know you and I spoke about not only the heat as being one of the noticeable indications of ANKARRAH but illumination. And I had my first experience of that, and what happened was I was doing an assimilation with [name omitted]. So I was outside, and during that, there's a part of the assimilation where I'm looking forward but also my hands are forward. And I noticed there was quite a bright orange-pinkish light from my hands. And I turned my hands down because I was like, “Oh, it's just the sun hitting the paler part of the hands, the palms,” but it was even bright when my hands were facing away from the sun. I brought my hands closer together as part of that assimilation, and my hands were visibly objectively glowing, this pale orange-pinkish glow. So I was in my mind thinking, “Holy shit, I can see it!” (Elias laughs) I was really excited that I actually saw the illumination. And I guess what I wanted to ask you, was that in regard to doing that with [name omitted], or is that just me being open and now available to seeing the light illumination of ANKARRAH?
ELIAS: I would say the latter. And I would say congratulations!
SCOTTY: Thank you!
ELIAS: That is exciting!
SCOTTY: It is! It is, and I’ve tried to replicate it since and not really had any sort of results in that same way, but it's definitely something I'm going to be aware of. And the thing is, I wasn't “Okay, trying to defocus and trying to see;” I was just actually visualizing the symbols themselves and what I was doing with them and visualizing the colors of them, and that's when it happened. So, I'm not really able to identify “why then?” as opposed to all the other times.
ELIAS: Because you were relaxed and you were open, and you weren't trying. And therefore, you were simply focused, and then that's what happened.
SCOTTY: Yeah. It was really cool.
ELIAS: I would say that when you're TRYING, then you're projecting a very different type of energy. I would say that it's more likely that you could replicate that if you are, let's say, meditating first, because in that then you are relaxed, you are not thinking about trying to do this. But if you were meditating, and before your meditation you set an intention for healing – not for your hands glowing (chuckles), but for healing – then you likely could generate that again. I would say that it's a matter of practicing, and eventually you will be able to summon it at will.
SCOTTY: Okay. I mean, as I said, I have--
ELIAS: It’s very similar to the Reiki, that you can summon that energy at will, and you can be directing your energy to your hands, and they become heated. In that, this is very similar.
SCOTTY: Elias, just on that, I think I told you that I became a Reiki volunteer at a hospital. I did tell you that, right?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
SCOTTY: Okay. So, I wanted to ask you… (chuckles) So what happens is I go in and I get given a list of patients. And many of them are in the ICU or in the neurology or the oncology wards, like people that are really, really, really sick or recovering. So I go around and I begin to give these people Reiki…
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Elias, I've never really been in that type of extreme illness/disease sort of environment, but I'm noticing in my three-four hours that I'm doing that once or twice a week that it's bringing out this beautiful compassion and kindness and sympathetic… these feelings when I'm engaging energy in Reiki with these people. And what I am noticing is I'm like, “Oh, wow, I don't think I'm ever really that compassionate or kind to myself.” (Laughs) So, I'm –
ELIAS: Congratulations!
SCOTTY: Yeah, I mean I'm already seeing that I’m being a bit more – well, I mean quite a bit more – kind, you know, to drivers or to people going into the grocery store or smiling. It's radiating out more than just me being there for those couple of hours doing energy work. It's having a wider influence in my daily life, so that's a huge benefit I think also for me.
ELIAS: I agree, and I would express congratulations.
SCOTTY: Thank you.
ELIAS: I would say, it's very interesting how humans respond to individuals that are considerably ill.
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Or are, in a manner of speaking, moving in the direction of death, because most people avoid them. But if they engaged with these people, it's something that they would find themselves in a very different position, just as you have, and in that, putting yourself, in your terminology, much more in touch with you.
SCOTTY: It really is.
ELIAS: And in touch with you in relation to who you actually want to be.
SCOTTY: Yeah. I did also notice that just being helpful in that very small way, just one individual, even just with 10 minutes with each of these people, that that was an “enough” piece, which I hadn't really even considered, but that what I was doing was enough. And in looking for different aspects of “enough,” that one kind of surprised me. I was like, “Oh, that's something that is also enough, that even at the moment –
ELIAS: Yes!
SCOTTY: “Even at the moment if I'm not making money with ANKARRAH, that I'm using it in helpfulness, and that is enough.”
ELIAS: Congratulations. I would say that is an enormous step, my friend.
SCOTTY: Yeah. Just quickly, Elias – I know the buzzer went off – I'm now looking at promoting and marketing ANKARRAH because my course is completed online and people can purchase that and learn it (and someone already has, which was awesome), but I wanted to say, because I didn't think necessarily to go down the route of promoting and marketing to Elias forum people: Is that something I should speak to Michael about? Or would you say that I would have your permission to say that this is an Elias-sanctioned healing system? Or would it more just be that I worked with you on this system?
ELIAS: That you have worked with myself on this system. And yes, you can engage Michael for helpfulness in promoting it, and I incorporate no doubt that that would be agreeable.
SCOTTY: Okay. All right. Well, thank you so much for our conversation today.
ELIAS: You are very welcome. And I would express that perhaps you will be presenting yourself with other forms of acknowledgement of being safe people and having a safe place other than death.
SCOTTY: I'm not sure I understood that, Elias. Say that again.
ELIAS: With the possum and the carcass. (Chuckles)
SCOTTY: Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna lay off poultry for a little while after that experience. (Both laugh)
All right. All my love to you.
ELIAS: I express tremendous love and affection to you, and dear friendship, as always. Au revoir.
SCOTTY: Au revoir, Elias.
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