Judging Others; Canadian Trucker Protest
Topics:
“Judging Others Is Judging Oneself”
“Canadian Trucker Protest”
“An Enormous Reaction of Self-Focusing”
“Contributing a Different Type of Energy to Ukraine-Russia”
“Cure for Warts”
“Cursing”
Friday, May 20, 2022 (Private)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Ann (Vivette) with Melissa (Leah)
ELIAS: Good morning!
ANN: Good morning!
ELIAS: (Chuckles) And how shall we begin?
ANN: Well, first of all, I just want to know if I’m on the mark or if I’m still missing something. But remember our last conversation when I said oh, I was so happy that I was accepted into this group and you know I felt like I wasn’t accepted? And you said, think about it. I forgot exactly what you said, but it just… I thought, first of all, I did realize how it was me. And then I thought, oh my god, what it really is – like I was projecting it on them, when I… Okay, so there’s this weird paradox going on with… I don’t know if it’s a paradox or a conundrum or… (Elias chuckles) And I know the answer. It’s just about balance.
But like sometimes I think what I felt… I feel guilty, because sometimes… You know connection is important to me. I want to connect with people and I enjoy it. I love connecting with people, but then sometimes I don’t want… I just want to be by myself. And I feel like I judge myself for not… like if I’m part of a group, and I could go, I could be really engaging, engaging, and then I could go a long time where I don’t engage. And I think I judge myself for not either contributing to the group, which must have been why that time when Jean says, “If you don’t contribute, we’re getting rid of this group,” and that triggered me so much because I judge myself for that. And I feel that I’m not worthy to be in a group if I’m not contributing towards this group. So I did realize, oh it’s me, because sometimes I act… Like I judge myself when I act, like I’m not connecting with this person or treating this other person as being worthy because I feel like oh, I wasn’t good enough to them by just wanting to be by myself. No?
ELIAS: But you don’t have to be objectively interactive to be contributing.
ANN: Oh, that’s good to know.
ELIAS: (Laughs) You can be contributing in energy and you don’t have to be interactive.
ANN: Yeah. Yeah. So it’s just a matter of coming to this place – I know it’s within myself – of just feeling good about what I… Just trusting what I feel like. Well, that’s another thing, what I feel like contributing. So I don’t want to follow feelings. I want to contribute, but I want to contribute objectively. It’s just interesting.
So now that I’m just coming into this thinking about it, and like thinking about who I want to be and how I want to be and how I want to interact and… And it is, like a lot of us are doing that. When you were talking to Jeff, and thinking what his wife wants to do and if he’s trying to act for what she wants to do, it’s kind of discounting – or what HE thinks she wants is discounting. Because you can’t really do it for what you think somebody else wants. You really just have to trust what you want to do is the best for you and for everybody around you. And I’ve said this.
And I tell this to everybody. I go – because I do, on some level, know it – like Oscar Wilde, your famous quote (Elias laughs): “Selfishness is not doing what you want to do, it’s wanting the other one to do what you want them to do.” I believe that wholeheartedly. So it’s just a matter of trusting that and living that. And I think since I brought all this up, I’m probably pretty close. It’s just a matter of practicing.
ELIAS: I agree. (Chuckles)
ANN: Okay, so in that, do you think I missed anything, more to delve into that? Or do you think that was pretty much—
ELIAS: No.
ANN: What?
ELIAS: No, I don’t think you’ve missed anything. I think that that’s—
ANN: What was coming up for me.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: Like when I was feeling that, is that just I was really judging myself. That came in so clear, and then what also came in so clear, of how when people get upset with other people, I mean sometimes it’s hidden but you see it more and more, it’s really stuff that they’re upset about themselves with. It’s just that’s coming in loud and clear for myself, and when I observe other people being upset, I’m like, wow. You do that. In a different form—
ELIAS: Precisely.
ANN: — but I can see. That is coming in loud and clear everywhere, which is good, because then it helps me, you know, choose what I want to do.
ELIAS: That’s, that is a principle that I have expressed for a considerable time framework. When, when you are judgmental of someone else, it’s because you’re doing the same thing in some form—
ANN: Yeah. Oh.
ELIAS: — and you’re judgmental of yourself. You don’t like something because you don’t like that in yourself.
ANN: Yeah. Which is great to be aware of and accept. Then the whole covid thing like really brought that to me, because I still feel myself doing it. Less and less, but I know, like it’s so easy. It’s interesting because I was with Bonnie at dinner, and just that whole trucker thing in Canada, which I thought was yes! Balance. It’s so good. We go out, you know they go out and make sure. You know, first of all, their voice, they’re expressing themselves. They’re keeping balance so everybody, making sure things don’t all this way. They said no, no, no. You’ve pressed too far. This has gone on too long. And I’m thinking of it, oh it’s empowerment and good.
And then Bonnie, it was horrible for her. Her whole experience of it. You know they were, the truckers, I guess were loud and they… and she said they were smearing mud and they were making a mess and they caused a lot of damage. And I’m like wow. And I did say – and I did not mean that… There is a time, and especially in the forums when people will throw out, “Oh! You create your reality,” kind of in a dismissive way. But… And I did say it, but I didn’t mean it dismissive. I said it more like wow! We really do all create our own reality. Kind of like in a… And so, I’m telling myself that really is valid for her. That is the way, that’s her perception and that is REAL for her. That is real.
So this whole covid thing, and coming from the south and coming north, it’s so interesting. Like in the south, obviously there’s exceptions in the north and the south, you have the opposite opinion sprinkled throughout, but as the majority in the north they’re more taking care, you know, more pro-vaccine, more pro-masks, more pro whatever. And in the south, it’s just less that way. And it’s not really a question about it, but I’m just like wow. Telling myself this is just as valid as that.
And I think it’s just the experience of it. I’m just assimilating and watching myself when I do have the reaction, like wow, you can really believe that? And then saying, well, it’s true for them. So I know that’s where we’re going and I know that’s the place to be, you know, not a literal place but a state of mind, state of being. And I’m just absorbing all that. (Elias chuckles)
And it’s good, because you know I love Bonnie, I respect her, and we have a lot of the same knowings around the Elias material, so we have a lot of the same beliefs about magic and impossible things becoming possible. And yet she has this different viewpoint. It’s just very interesting. So obviously it’s such a matter-of-fact, such an obvious statement, but I feel like yeah, you’re not going to agree with everybody on everything.
ELIAS: And it’s not only that, but as I’ve expressed many times, it’s what’s you’re paying attention to.
ANN: Right, what you’re paying attention to.
ELIAS: And therefore, in this you were paying attention to an ideal. You were paying attention to an expression, a concept that you agreed with.
ANN: Right.
ELIAS: And therefore, you were supportive of that and therefore, in your perception, you expect that these individuals were absolutely following that ideal and that concept.
ANN: Right.
ELIAS: And therefore, that’s your reality. The people in many of the places that those truckers stopped and camped at, their perception was very much the opposite. Because they began with the same perception as you, they began with that perception of that ideal and that concept, but then as the individuals came to their towns and were camped in their towns, the actions of those individuals was different from the people’s ideals about it. In that, it’s an interesting dynamic and display of differences, because it was a clear division of people such as yourself and many individuals in Canada that initially believed the same, but weren’t actually considering who the people were that were enacting this movement.
The people that were enacting this movement were truckers. These are not soft individuals. I don’t mean that as an orientation.
ANN: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
ELIAS: These are individuals that have a reputation that they’ve earned of being tough and being what you would term to be fairly right-wing, fairly conservative. Most truckers are not what you would identify as liberal types, and they are individuals that are somewhat rough around the edges. In that, they started a movement because they were fed up and angry, not because they were expressing in some idealistic capacity and they certainly weren’t moving in the direction of Gandhi.
ANN: Yes. (Elias laughs) That was—
ELIAS: But, but what is significant to observe is how many people in different places, in other countries and in Canada, began with this idea of this ideal and this concept of this peaceful demonstration that was in the perception of many, many, many people, if not most, something that was an expression that they would definitely want to support because it was a peaceful demonstration, not matching energy, not opposing—
ANN: Well, I think it was matching energy. Which actually, so this is interesting to me, because, and I know you have said this before, it’s like really, it’s the extremes on both sides that probably cause us most of our anguish.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: The extremes. But then also thinking about balance, like I thought it was very interesting that when the truckers were in Canada doing all that, and obviously obnoxious and as you say, everything you said sounds reasonable, that they were rough people. And if you were like Bonnie, living in Ottawa, it was not fun. But also as you say, there are no coincidences. It seemed very interesting to me how throughout Canada all of a sudden, restrictions were being lifted. And also what I thought was very interesting, because we had a little trucker thing happen in the United States too, that had hardly any attention. And I was in D.C., I see all the truckers coming and just for me, I thought it was kind of… I love observing people and whatever, and I thought oh, that’s kind of cool. But nothing really much happened of it. And then also, right before they got there, D.C., their mask laws are gone. And I just felt, like when they’re coming on, like why are they coming? Because they got everything they wanted already. And it felt like the government are the extreme on this side really balanced out the extreme on this side. So even though the extremes aren’t good, it almost seems like if you have one extreme, like you say, it matches. You have to have the other extreme, kind of to go to balance.
Now the trick, the key is going to be you know, let’s just stay in balance so we don’t need to go to the extremes. But if you do have one extreme on a certain level I think it’s nice to have the other extreme, just so you don’t go in a tailspin. I don’t know. But I agree with you, and I know the only way, or the way, my power way, is not to go in extreme in myself.
ELIAS: Most definitely.
ANN: Just to stay balanced.
ELIAS: But it has been, that’s been one example. There have been many, but that’s been one very public example of not only extremes but differences, and how, how automatic it is for people to express judgments about the differences and to justify that in relation to their feelings. That this person or these people are upsetting them or are making them feel something that’s uncomfortable. And in that, they’re not remembering that their feelings are their own.
All feelings are generated by your body. Not someone else’s body, your own body. And that doesn’t mean that other people don’t influence situations in which that will bring up feelings for you, but then to stop, once again, not follow that, but recognize: this is a signal, and what am I telling myself with this signal? And in that, rather than simply justifying being angry or being judgmental because the other individual is doing something that makes you that, no. They may be influencing, but it’s still your choice, how you respond.
ANN: Yeah. And once you react, you can take a moment and then decide to respond differently.
ELIAS: Yes, most definitely.
ANN: Because obviously there’s going to be some reactions still going on, at least on my end. I am being more aware of it, but yeah.
ELIAS: I would say that’s—
ANN: Not everybody.
ELIAS: — for the most part, normal.
ANN: Yeah. So, speaking of feelings, and let’s do physical, very physical feelings. It’s so interesting, so many people I know are quote-unquote “creating trauma.” Whether it’s somebody close to them dying or a physical, like me with my rib, whatever. And now, like Denise calls this morning. She was going to be here. She’s in her vertigo again. And it’s… She’s been going back and forth between telling herself or feeling like she didn’t want to come, and coming. So I guess the question is first of all: why? Okay, so is this vertigo being created, I mean I know everything’s so interconnected and there’s probably everything is contributing to it, but one, because she didn’t listen to herself and she came when she really did not what to come? Two, the weather? I know the weather… Like I have this feeling that… and this afternoon, she’s going to feel fine. I don’t know. That’s just an impression I got. We’ll see.
But that reason too, because the weather is going to switch. And if we’re… The weather is a reflection of all of our energies, right? It’s just kind of… So I’m thinking the weather. There’s weird stuff going on with the weather. Weird. It’s just much… And everyone is saying there’s so much energy, right? It just feels likes there’s so much going on. And for me, I feel like I’ve kind of been oblivious to it, not oblivious, I mean obviously I’ve been causing pain to myself, but I feel you know because we did our move, just so much… I feel like I’ve overwhelmed myself so much that I am unaware of it, just because simply I am right here and I’ve got to focus on this pain, I’ve got to focus on this move. I know all this. I’m not as focused on the world right now.
ELIAS: Actually, that is something that is happening with many, many, many, many, many people.
ANN: Yeah, we talked about that at dinner.
ELIAS: If not most.
ANN: Yeah.
ELIAS: That the situation between Russia and Ukraine actually sparked a movement that most people wouldn’t have expected, because what it sparked is an enormous reaction in which people have retreated to themselves and have very strongly focused on themselves.
Now; whether they do that in a manner of, such as yourself, in injuring yourself and giving yourself a reason to very much pay attention to you because you’re uncomfortable and because you’re moving, whether it be for some reason such as that, or that the individual is overwhelming themselves or creating some type of hurt to themself, or whether it’s excitement, it doesn’t matter what they’re doing, but people throughout the world have been very much in this time framework giving themselves reasons to pull back and focus on what they are doing, and not as much focus on what’s happening in the world or what’s happening in relation to these countries or what’s happening in relation to anything outside of people’s individual worlds.
ANN: Yep. And I thought about that. I’ve been thinking about that too, very on the peripheral. I don’t feel anything about it, it’s just like because I think of Ukraine and Russia, obviously I know, I’ll see a headline, and I know it’s still going on. But when it first happened, you know, I was so distressed, da-da-da. And then I was wondering, am I doing this as a soothing effort or does it help? We’re sending energy to them and I’ve kind of… I don’t want to say forgotten, because it’s still there, but energetically I don’t feel as connected anymore, just because, as you said, I’m all swooped up in here. So I’m like curious. By not feeding… Is that our way of not feeding energy to this situation? So this situation may dissipate because we’re not feeding energy to it?
ELIAS: It’s an interesting phenomenon because this is something that is very different, but it’s also something that is very in keeping with shifting because (pause) I have engaged with a very few, very few, actually only two individuals that have been focusing still on the situation. And what is significant about it is that in order to pay attention to what’s happening in that war, unless you personally are in contact with someone there, with someone that is actually experiencing it and involved, unless you have that kind of interaction, you are then in a position in which the only way that you connect or you have information is through the media.
ANN: Yeah. Don’t want that.
ELIAS: And in that, there are two pieces in relation to that. One is that people throughout the world, in relation to the mass event with the virus, have become very suspicious of media. They don’t trust it any more as they used to. And they also are aware that the media thrives on the negative and people are not as hooked into that as they were before the virus, and during the beginning throes of the virus.
But in addition to that, there’s another piece that is somewhat intrinsic to you. In shifting and becoming more self-aware – even though people may not be actually thinking about it, they’re not thinking it through, they’re doing it anyway – is that they’re not paying attention as much to the media. They know that the media moves in sensationalizing and that they move in a negative direction, and people don’t want to move in a negative direction. And by creating different reasons to make themselves, in a manner of speaking, focus on themselves and their own little world around them, without actually objectively being aware of it, what they are doing is they are contributing a very different type of energy. They’re not buying into the negative. They’re moving in a direction of expressing an energy that is more empowering, more self-centered, meaning centered on self, not being only paying attention to self to the exclusion of everything else. In this, that projects an energy of empowerment and support.
And are there atrocities that are being committed? Of course there are. It’s war. There are always atrocities that are being committed in wars. Every war includes atrocities, because war is an act of aggression and aggression is the one expression that creates a disconnect. This is the one expression that you have that you can generate that actually disconnects you. And in that, being disconnected, even for short periods of time, influences people to generate what you think of as horrific experiences. This is what creates trauma.
And in that, I would say that I know that people look to essences such as myself to comfort them and to express the echo of how terrible this is. It’s experience. All of you, without exception, have other focuses that you’re experiencing very similarly, because that’s what you do. And in this, once again I will express, you’re a young species. You haven’t outgrown all of your violent tendencies yet because it’s a matter of experiences. And in that, you’re exploring all of the experiences that you possibly can. In that, without the emotional factor and without the belief system of duplicity, it’s not good or bad. They are simply experiences. From the standpoint of essence, it’s simply experiences. From the standpoint of humans, it is war and war creates trauma. And trauma is damaging and is, for humans, bad.
But I would say that it is quite interesting to observe you as humans in how, in shifting, even without thinking about it, even without being objectively aware necessarily of what you’re doing, you’ve automatically been moving in directions of making choices to not ignore, not to hide away from the conflict, but not to reinforce it either and to not focus on it and therefore not be projecting an energy that supports it.
ANN: Yeah. Ah, makes sense.
ELIAS: Which is actually—
ANN: Quite clever of us.
ELIAS: It IS quite clever and quite amazing in how you have chosen to move in directions that hold your attention on you first. Whether it be in something uncomfortable or comfortable, it doesn’t matter. You’re choosing directions to gain your attention for you first, and putting yourselves finally in that primary position that ultimately you are the most important and ultimately your attention needs to be on you. And then it can be on everything else.
I would be actually commending you. And I would say that I would commend even the people that are in contact with people that are in either of those countries, and I would acknowledge them that even they are expressing differently than they would have previously. That they may be horrified by the stories that their friends or family members are relaying to them in relation to their experiences, but most of the people that are not in those countries that are in contact with people that are, are actually attempting to express in a manner that empowers those people. They aren’t simply echoing them. Which is different. They’re not wailing for the devastation and simply expressing in the manner of being hysterical or weeping uncontrollably for these people. They’re actually moving in directions of attempting to empower them.
ANN: Yeah. Wow.
ELIAS: Which is very different.
ANN: Oh yeah. We are definitely different now, how we’re responding or just doing things than we… I mean, I can feel it everywhere. Just like what you said with this war and people being outraged, and there’s war all over that we’ve never been this outraged. Wars have happened all over the place and… Yeah. Wow, it’s interesting.
Though I get the… One thing that I’m really getting more and more at mesh, or that’s really sinking in, which I like, through this conversation is… Because you start to doubt yourself. Oh, what am I…? You know, I create my rib, oh, whatever am I doing wrong? And all this, you know, just trust myself and trust the process, and just let go of all that, let go of uncertainty in the way, not that I need to know, but uncertainty that it’s bad. Just let go of it. It’s just… Just go back. Just get balanced. Trust whatever is happening is happening like everything’s happening for your benefit. It can, anyway, if you look at it that way. And just… I just feel like more trust in ourselves.
And everyone, like Denise has said this and I have felt this, and other people. It’s like because we were having so much fun playing around with magic, and it feels like maybe we put that on a pause again. The fun part, the light part of it, we have put on pause because we have been so focused. And you kind of feel like oh, or I’ll think to myself, yeah, I’m not… I’m just so… I’m not… Like oh, I want to grow in this area but I’m not, I’m doing this. And maybe chastising. I’m not really chastising myself because I haven’t even had time to feel like chastising myself. I’m like aargh, I just have to do this. But I’m like oh yeah, it’s all fine. It’s all fine. It’s just working out. That’s my takeaway at least, at this moment. It’s all right.
ELIAS: I agree. And that what seems bad may not necessarily be bad.
ANN: Yeah. Yeah. And I’ve been giving myself lots of examples of that.
ELIAS: And I would say in relation to Azura that it’s not necessarily that she wasn’t listening to herself. The factor that she may have had a question back and forth, that she wanted to go, she didn’t want to go, she wanted to go, she didn’t want to go, she made a choice. It wasn’t a wrong choice, and she’s not punishing herself because she made a wrong choice.
ANN: Yes.
ELIAS: Or that she wasn’t listening to herself. It’s not that black and white. No, I would say that she does this when she’s expressing an openness.
ANN: Oh, and that’s the channeling, relating to the… So this is more related to the channeling than…? Okay. Well, that’s good-bad. So for her, let me ask her question for her, because obviously I know… Like she had put a stop on the channeling for a while obviously. Is it a matter…? Can she…? And maybe it’s, it’s probably her questions because she’s going to have to do it on what she feels. All right. So what about my impression of this afternoon, she’s going to feel better? I know it’s her choice, but am I tapping into… I just think it’s related to the weather, too.
Is somebody here? Is she here? Oh, that’s Melissa is here.
Azura is, she’s having vertigo. Okay, so what do you think, my assessment or impression about the weather? I know… I also thought maybe it was tied into the channeling, just because it has done that before. But what do you think about this afternoon? I know you… It’s not a prediction. I just want to know—
ELIAS: I understand. I understand. It’s likely.
ANN: Yeah. I just felt like… Yeah.
Okay, so the other thing that I’m wondering. So, it’s the weather forecast is calling for 97° on Saturday, the group session. So, Bonnie, Melissa and I did a little magic spell. Of course, we did it in Celsius, so I hope our fairies don’t put it in Fahrenheit, because we did 25°C, which we want, Celsius. We don’t want Fahrenheit. (Elias laughs) So, fairies, just remember that clarification! (Elias laughs) So that’ll be interesting. I’m not even going to ask you how successful that was or not. It doesn’t even matter.
MELISSA: I think it’s no question that it’s going to be that hot, or supposed to be that hot on Saturday.
ANN: Though there was something funky going on with the weather, that I feel… Okay, so the weather is a reflection in all of us. I think it’s just reflecting what we are going… we are all over the place right now.
ELIAS: And very heated.
ANN: And very heated. Okay, so let me ask a question for… Is that what’s going on with John too, being sick? Is he doing the same thing, just centering himself? Or is he just overwhelmed and exhausted and this is his way of recuperating?
ELIAS: Overwhelmed and exhausted and… And that’s how he’s focusing more on him.
MELISSA: Oh, we had talked about that. How we’re all… seem to be focusing on ourselves.
ANN: Oh yeah, the whole session about that. I’ll share it. We were right on.
MELISSA: Really? Okay.
ANN: But I’ll tell you. (To Elias, as Elias coughs repeatedly) And now you’re picking up on what John’s been doing. (Elias laughs) You’re channeling John right now.
ELIAS: Ah. (Coughs)
MELISSA: I almost didn’t come up. Well, I would come up, but like the night before, on Wednesday night, I was like, the energy feels so intense, I don’t know if I want to come up.
ANN: It is intense.
MELISSA: Was that about the area or…? Now I’m fine, but was that about the mass energy?
ANN: It is all in my session. I’m going to share with you.
MELISSA: Okay. (Elias laughs)
ANN: I don’t want to repeat certain things.
MELISSA: All right. All right. All right.
ANN: I’ll tell you and then I’ll share with you.
MELISSA: Okay.
ANN: I do want to ask a question for Mutha. Is that how you say his name? Mutha, okay. So his doctors have recommended he get surgery on his nose, and he just wanted to know if you would be in agreement with that recommendation or not.
ELIAS: (Pause) Yes.
ANN: Okay. Good to know. And that’s also probably, what that creation of him is also what everybody else is doing, a hundred percent. That’s what everybody is doing. That answers my question on all these people.
(To Melissa) All right, to give you a little recap, because I know you’re like dying. (Melissa laughs) but I’ve spent so much time on it (inaudible). So the whole Russian-Ukraine thing, most people – (to Elias) and you can correct me if I get this wrong – most people on the planet have created situations that have focused them, to be more centered on themselves and focused on themselves, which is withdrawing energy. We’re still aware of what’s going on in Ukraine. We’re not ignoring it. We know what’s going on. But it has focused us to… or we are focusing so much on ourselves that we’re withdrawing, like we’re not feeding energy into the situation anymore, which is benefitting the situation.
MELISSA: Oh good. Thank you.
ANN: You’re welcome. Now, you feel better?
MELISSA: Yes.
ANN: Okay. (Both laugh) All right. What else did I want to talk about? So (pause)… I think we answered everything.
MELISSA: Can I ask—
ANN: You can now, because I feel fulfilled. (Elias laughs) I feel fulfilled. I’m putting myself primary. I’m practicing. (Both laugh) But I’ve asked all my questions, so you go for it. (Elias laughs) I’m going to check the timing.
MELISSA: I just have one.
ANN: Okay.
MELISSA: But… Wait. What night was it again? Oh yeah. Oh, I can’t remember. Was it last night? Yeah. Wait. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. What’s today? Today’s Friday?
ANN: Uh-huh.
MELISSA: Okay. Okay, Wednesday night I felt a heavy energy. And I have an impression, but it didn’t make sense, so I was wondering if you could tell me what that was.
ELIAS: And what is your impression?
MELISSA: I shared a song with a certain someone and I thought maybe he did not like the song that I associated, I told him I associate him with the song. And he was all excited, and then I’m thinking maybe he did not like the song, when he listened to it, he didn’t.
ELIAS: Not necessarily not like, but didn’t necessarily connect with it.
MELISSA: So why would I feel a heaviness because of that?
ANN: Judgment.
ELIAS: What I would say is, why would you feel a heaviness? Because you were picking up from the other individual, yes, a judgment of themself that they weren’t—
MELISSA: Connecting to it.
ELIAS: That they weren’t connecting to it and then that would be not validating to you, or disappointing to you. And in that, one of those expressions in which an individual thinks they should be expressing in a certain manner and then judging themselves because they are not.
MELISSA: Wow.
ANN: That’s all in my sessions too. (Elias laughs) I’m going to share it with you. (Melissa laughs) I think it’s going to be very helpful. I mean, I was doing, like realizing when I felt bad about, like maybe not being – oh, you listened to my one session, when I felt bad about not being, like I think I’m not being accepted into groups or whatever. It’s really me, in my judgments. Yeah, but I won’t rehash that. I’m done with that. (Elias laughs)
MELISSA: I can’t believe that like affected me so much, that response. I’m just like (inaudible) done with dinner and… Wow, okay, I must have just been really tapping into him.
ELIAS: That, precisely.
ANN: Yeah.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: (To Melissa) Who was the “him”?
MELISSA: Oh, my chiropractor. (Laughs)
ANN: Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, talk about impressions and feelings… and you know sometimes I wonder about like impressions or versus wishful thinking. I’m being aware, it’s always easier to have impressions when you’re not invested in the subject. It’s easier, usually. So obviously I’m invested in what’s going on, but I do feel like we’re at a turning. Like I feel, and maybe it’s just a reflection of my life, you know, the move is pretty much done. We’re going to get ready. All my, heavy, heavy tasks. I still have things that I have to do, but it just feels like the lion’s share of what I, my to-do chores, are off my back now. So I am feeling lighter. And I feel like I might be ready to start to turn into the fun again, you know, of playing around with magic and having fun. Like the next session’s going to be about magic. (Elias chuckles)
Which is so interesting, this whole magic thing. Actually, let me just ask about this. So obviously, everything is magic, the way I look at it, and just creating our reality is magic. What is my question? (Elias chuckles) Well, what IS my question? I mean, it’s really, I feel for me, it’s just a matter of practicing and doing, just because it’s like I know, it’s like simple, but just because it’s simple doesn’t mean it’s easy.
ELIAS: Ah, yes.
ANN: But it’s simple. Like I’m really realizing this whole creating my reality, I know what to do, Mary, or Elias or whoever I’m talking to. (Elias laughs) I know, and I know I know what to do. But I’m not… I do it sometimes, but I’m not doing it all the time. Like I know… So, yeah. So now in my focus – I’m not asking a question, I’m making a declaration – my focus is really practicing on this, I know. Do you agree with that? I know what to do.
ELIAS: Oh yes.
ANN: I know. It’s just a matter of—
ELIAS: Doing it.
ANN: Doing it. (Elias chuckles)
MELISSA: Magic?
ANN: Yeah, everything. The creating my… Yeah, see to me, magic is creating my own reality intentionally, doing what I want. And I mean, I think it will be fun to like, “Oh, here’s an apple,” boom! You know, that to me is just kind of like, just to delight you, stuff like that. (Elias chuckles) And I want to be able to do that, but what is more important to me – and I think this is one of the reasons like with magic groups or whatever, like the one that Turell and Denise and all, and Sandra are in, they’re like focusing. At first I thought, ah, I want to be a part of that. But I realize it’s not my, it’s not one, my focus, the way they’re doing it. I wouldn’t fit in that group, but I understand that now and it’s not…
Because my focus, my main desire is really creating a life intentionally. Now the magical, what we would dub as magic, the impossible-impossible, that’s just like fun to me. Which fun is very important, but my main goal is I want to do it every moment of every day. It’s not like oh, let me cast a spell and do this, although I do. I love my little magic spell and that’s all fun, but that all feels auxiliary to me. My primary importance and goal is like I want to create this life of wonder and magic that I live and it’s delightful for me. That’s my number one thing. And it’s back to me again. I mean, I want to play around with other people. But I’m not sure if I’m saying it right, but I think you know the gist of what I’m saying.
ELIAS: Yes. And you do engage with Azura.
ANN: I do. I do. And I do and I want to and it’s fun. Oh, let me ask you this. So when – and I think it’s just because we have fun and we’re silly, and we get… I mean, we are very successful in our magic very often. So, on the mechanics, you know apparently I tel– I just said I know what to do, but apparently maybe I don’t. (Elias chuckles) But I’ll have to play around with it. My little teleportation, the teleporting my… I wrote the paper down. I put it in the cat cave last, when I left. Who knows? It could have happened already because I’m not there. This paper, I feel like it should have teleported already. What’s going on with that? (Elias chuckles) Like why isn’t it teleported already?
ELIAS: And how do you know it isn’t?
ANN: I don’t. It could have been.
MELISSA: Oh! Ho, ho, ho, ho, ho!
ANN: I know. I feel like something magical is going to happen like that. Lots of magic’s going to—I’m ready to bring the magic, the fun magic back, that, just to play around.
ELIAS: Ah.
ANN: And light-hearted. And what my impression is, I think, at least for myself and since we’re all interconnected, I would think it would start to happen. I think we’re at the heaviness, we’ve been in this heaviness to force us to be centered on ourselves. It’s been very useful. I’m ready to go (exhales) and all right, let’s get some lighthearted stuff going on. I feel like we’re making a turn into that. Would you agree?
ELIAS: I would agree. Yes.
ANN: Okay. Yeah. Ah! Did you feel that relief just come of me when you agreed? (Elias laughs)
MELISSA: Would you give me a tip for teleporting? I would like to teleport. Like there’s a necklace I would like to teleport to someone. How…? Give me a little hint.
ELIAS: About?
MELISSA: How to do it. How to be successful at it.
ELIAS: Concentrate.
MELISSA: Oh! I should concentrate?
ANN: But you need to concentrate on teleporting it, not teleporting it, which is the tricky part.
MELISSA: Concentrate on teleporting it?
ANN: Well, let—That’s what I’m thinking, but he’ll probably say it better than me.
ELIAS: That is correct.
MELISSA: Okay. Don’t concentrate on not teleporting it?
ELIAS: Correct.
ANN: Okay. Which we do. Like okay so, like at one session, this is very important. And my work, by the way, is diminishing so I’m going with it. We’ll see what happens. Oh! And they arrived. This is kudos for you, Elias. (Elias laughs) And this is like what the hell was I thinking, for me. Like when I had the wart here, you said, you know, do the aspirin, make a paste out of it and put it on. I did that for this and it went away. Right? Why? I’m might have done it for a little bit with it, but then I like switched it up. I stopped doing it. And then all of a sudden, I’m like okay, I’m like, I’m doing it again. So I did. I’ve been doing the aspirin taped – I’ve added the duct tape to it, trying to get the oxygen, deprive it of oxygen. And it’s working! Like why the fuck (Elias laughs) was I not doing that all along? I mean, it was working and I switched it up. You don’t even need to answer that. (Elias laughs)
But I’m glad I said what the fuck. It’s because that reminded me, I’ve been wanting to ask you. I heard that you said cussing wasn’t good, but I love to cuss, Elias. (Elias laughs) It feels so good, like when I say what the fuck. It can’t be… It’s got to be empowering for me to cuss. Right? It depends on the—
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
ELIAS: It depends on the individual. It depends on the moment. It depends on the situation.
ANN: Like if I enjoy it.
ELIAS: I would say that many people include a significant amount of cursing into their conversations and simply how they speak. And what they don’t realize is that what’s influencing them to do that is to push away other people.
ANN: Oh! All right.
ELIAS: That many people do that, and they do it what you would term to be excessively. They are including these cursing words in most of their sentences and in all of their conversations. It’s not simply a move, a moment or a movement in a particular direction, but that they do it automatically and as filler words. And what they don’t realize is that they’re off-putting. They’re doing it to be isolating themselves, to be separating themselves from other people.
ANN: Okay.
MELISSA: They have an aggressive energy too. It has an aggressive energy.
ANN: It could, I guess.
ELIAS: It can. It doesn’t necessarily, but it can. But I would say that for many, many, many different reasons curse words for the most part – not always – but when they are used simply in conversation, it’s offensive to many, many, many individuals for various reasons.
ANN: My mother. Yeah. Okay.
ELIAS: Many individuals are offended by that, and that’s part of the dynamic, is that—
ANN: To get them, yeah, yeah, I get it.
ELIAS: — is that because it is offensive to many, many, many other people, it’s a manner in which people can automatically separate themselves and push away other people. And they don’t necessarily even realize they’re doing it.
ANN: Yeah. Okay, so we… The bell rang, so we have to go really quick. But I’m thinking yeah, it’s really about self. Like everything else, it’s about self-awareness and being aware. So if I’m using it, like when I think it was Denise that told me about the cussing, and then we will say fuck and then we laugh together, and it kind of feels like a bonding thing. So it’s being aware of who I’m speaking to, in what context I’m using it. It’s just really being… So I can use it and it’s fine, if I’m aware of what I’m doing.
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
ANN: Okay.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: All right. So we have to go because the bell rang, but I’m going to talk to you in a minute about magic.
ELIAS: Very well.
ANN: It’s going to be fun.
MELISSA: (To Ann) Oh, was this your personal session stuff?
ANN: (To Melissa) Yeah, it was.
MELISSA: Oh! Oh, I can stay for another one!
ANN: Well, yeah. (Elias chuckles) Okay. (To Melissa) Yeah, that’s why you were bugging… That’s why I cut you off, because it’s my personal session.
MELISSA: Oh, I’m sorry. I had… I didn’t know. Okay.
ANN: It’s okay. I spoke up and we all were good, see? Because we vocalized it, we communicated and we’re all good.
MELISSA: Yeah. Okay.
ANN: Okay. (Elias chuckles) All right. We’ll see you later.
ELIAS: Very well. We shall break.
ANN: I love you.
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