Using Your Essence Tone; Lessening the Effect of Climate Change; Trusting Yourself
Topics:
“Buffering Mass Energy”
“Using Essence Tone”
“The Comfort Factor Might Not Be Important”
“Difference Between Healing and Regeneration”
“Choosing in Relation to Mass Events”
“Being Present and Trusting”
“What It’s Like to Meet a Concurrent Focus”
Thursday, May 5, 2022 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Nuno (Lystell)
ELIAS: Good morning!
NUNO: Good morning.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) And how shall we begin, my friend?
NUNO: I’d like to start by referring to April 19th. I had another one of these nausea experiences early in the morning of April 19th, very, very similar, I’d say essentially exactly the same situation that happened to me the previous month. And I was wondering if this too is related to the war?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Okay. These are not a lot of fun. Is there a way for me to opt out of these things?
ELIAS: Yes. I would say that it’s a matter of you being aware of you, listening to your own communications and expressing, in a manner of speaking, buffering out all that energy or any energy that isn’t pertinent to what you happen to be doing at the time. I would say that isn’t meaning that you’re not connected, but you don’t have to be taking in or feeling energy in relation to what is happening in other parts of your reality.
NUNO: Okay. I’ll have to look into the buffering aspect. That’s something that people who are dispersed do. Is that the same action?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes. And I would say it’s definitely a matter of paying attention to what you’re doing and your communications. Therefore, in that, this is a significant piece my friend, because this is something that will likely be being expressed more and more now that individuals are becoming more self-aware. That when you don’t like something, when you aren’t comfortable with something, you can – you don’t have to give yourself information by being uncomfortable. It’s simply a matter of paying attention to what you’re doing, paying attention to your body, paying attention to what you are feeling otherwise and in that, being aware of what you’re communicating to yourself, physically, emotionally and otherwise.
NUNO: I’m not quite sure I follow that. I mean, I understand that… this is different. What you’re expressing is different from not paying attention to and concentrating upon a particular subject, right?
ELIAS: Correct. Correct. Because this is about you paying attention to other communications that you give yourself, which are connected to feelings. Remember: feelings are signals and they are designed for the most part to be alerting you to something that you’re doing that you’re not entirely objectively aware of. Therefore, they’re very important.
In this, it’s a matter of paying attention to what you’re feeling and evaluating: what is that about? Before you move in a direction of generating a significantly uncomfortable feeling, a physical feeling.
This is a matter of, actually related to, what you and I have discussed previously in relation to being aware of energy and the differences of energy, being aware of YOUR energy, being aware of MY energy, what the differences are between them, or a different energy. And in that, being able to discern what you are taking in, in a manner of speaking, in relation to different energies.
Now; THAT energy will definitely feel different from yours or from mine. And in that also, there will be sometimes – not always – more of an intensity, but sometimes it might not be about intensity in the difference, but it might be consistency. That there may be not necessarily an intense energy that is happening that you might notice, but that there seems to be an ongoing, running, underlying energy that is ever present. (Pause)
NUNO: I mean, generally speaking, I kind of sense in myself that I’m generating fewer feelings. Is that correct? Or am I just—
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Yeah. And it’s kind… I mean, other than feelings directly related to the body consciousness, physiological things, but other than that, yeah. In terms of emotional feelings like sadness for example, or things like that, I am moving in the direction of being more neutral on those.
ELIAS: I understand. And in this, what I would say is what you’re doing is translating those mass energies into physical feeling. Therefore, I would suggest that you pay attention to physical feeling, especially anything that seems to be some type of ongoing, running, underlying physical feeling. Not anything tremendously overt.
NUNO: Okay. I actually was going to talk to you about this, because this is kind of intertwined with my energy exercises. Recently within, I don’t know, the past month perhaps, something like that, I’ve noticed that the character of the sensations I experience with my energy exercises has changed in terms of how I feel in my head and things like that. But also, I had noticed that I also was incorporating a very low-level nausea, almost not noticeable. It was there, but I associated that with my energy exercises because they seemed to coincide. Was I misunderstanding that?
ELIAS: Yes and no. What I would say to you in that is that it may be that you are feeling that in relation to that because you’re more open with your exercises. Therefore, that may be a time in which you feel it more. But as I said, it wouldn’t necessarily be something tremendously overt. It would be something that would be more underlying. Therefore not as strong, but a physical feeling.
NUNO: Okay. And if I notice one of these feelings, how do I address to it? Just acknowledge it?
ELIAS: Acknowledge it, but also acknowledging it for what it is, and expressing no, you are not moving in a direction of taking on that energy. That now you’re aware of it, and therefore you’re choosing not to be taking that on. It’s one thing that you might be taking on an energy when you’re not aware of it, but now you are.
NUNO: Okay. All right. One more thing to pay attention to. (Elias laughs)
Some time ago, I mentioned that I was hearing, or not exactly hearing but sensing a tone in my right ear. And you said not to be concerned, it’ll eventually dissipate. But now that we had talked about my essence tone of F-sharp and now that I’m familiar with that, I noticed that that tone in my right ear is actually F-sharp, or that’s what it appears to be. So is that perhaps something more than just physiological noise?
ELIAS: I would say you’ve turned it into something different than a physiological noise, that it began as that but I would say that turning it into a tone that is your essence tone, you can actually use that.
NUNO: Oh! Well, that’s what I was getting at. I mean it seems like it may even be useful to me.
ELIAS: You can use that. You can use it in very similar manners to dream triggers. You can use it to be tapping into your essence energy and use it in relation to focusing. By focusing on the sound, you can use it to engage or access different areas of consciousness. You can use it to access different aspects of yourself as essence. You can use it in relation to your exercises and enhance your exercises. Therefore, yes, I would agree that it can be useful.
NUNO: And these benefits that you just listed, I would get these benefits simply by listening to that tone?
ELIAS: And focusing on it, concentrating on it with an intention.
NUNO: Oh, okay. Okay. I understand. That’s actually pretty good. I also noticed that that other sound that we had talked about which you said was the sound of… I forget exactly how you described it, but the information being fed to my brain, that pulsating sound.
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: That’s started to become… Well, I only experience that currently during my energy exercises, but it seems to be coming more persistently, rather than at some very unusual… Or more frequently, I guess is what I’m saying. But you said that that sound isn’t particularly useful to me?
ELIAS: Not necessarily useful. I would say it’s an indicator, in a manner of speaking, of your state of being. And actually though, I would say that you could move in a direction of concentration with that pulsing and you could perhaps use it in a manner of speaking to lull you into that theta state.
NUNO: Yes. This had occurred to me, and I have been using it as a focal point during meditation. One thing that was interesting to me was that when I was researching on line for sounds that, recordings for inducing theta state, one of the recordings I came up with basically was identical to that sound.
ELIAS: Ah. I would say then that’s useful.
NUNO: But I mean I prefer to tap into my own generation of that sound, rather than use an external sound. I feel—
ELIAS: I understand. And that’s what I’m expressing, that that can be useful. That you could be moving in the direction of using that sound that YOU are generating, in the same capacity.
NUNO: Exactly. Yeah.
ELIAS: Congratulations.
NUNO: Thank you.
Moving onto the next topic. A few weeks ago, my wife got a cold, which for her is not unusual. However, what is unusual is that somehow I allowed myself to succumb to the contagion belief somehow and I experienced a cold as well. And I think I know how this happened. It’s a matter of attention, but honestly I was kind of embarrassed by this.
ELIAS: Why?
NUNO: Because—
ELIAS: Why were you embarrassed?
NUNO: Because I thought I had successfully neutralized that belief.
ELIAS: (Inaudible) It has nothing to do with that. It has nothing to do with whether you had successfully neutralized a belief or not. That doesn’t mean that you wouldn’t necessarily ever use it. And I would express that this actually was something that you engaged in connection with her.
NUNO: As kind of an expression of solidarity, or something like that?
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. More so in relation to simply connection, interconnectedness, and therefore expressing using that as a connectivity point, in a manner of speaking.
NUNO: Mm. Okay. Well, I think there’s more pleasant ways to do that.
ELIAS: I would agree, but I would say that everything isn’t about more pleasant, because everything isn’t only about you. Therefore, what may be important to someone else in relation to connection and expressing an energy of connection might not be something that you think about or that you would necessarily choose as what is important to you. But it may be efficient or effective as being important to someone else.
Therefore, this is actually an important point, my friend, because this is something that many people move in the direction of thinking, in that they think that certain things are negative because they are unpleasant or uncomfortable, and that other expressions are better because they are more pleasurable or because they are comfortable or because they’re not uncomfortable. And comfortable and uncomfortable are not always the most important factor with some things, especially in relation to connecting with other people, and in that connection, having a commiseration and perhaps even a supportiveness, in a manner of speaking. And in that, the comfort factor might not necessarily be an important factor.
NUNO: Well, I hear you and I understand you. Comfort is pretty important to me.
ELIAS: I acknowledge that, but that’s not what I was saying. I understand that comfort is important to YOU. But in certain situations, it might not be as important to someone else. They might derive comfort from something that YOU express is uncomfortable.
NUNO: Yeah, I understand what you’re saying.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: What I don’t understand is why that choice to engage that discomfort for the benefit of the other individual wasn’t more evident to me, that I was making that choice.
ELIAS: I would say that’s very obvious, because you were more focused on that being something negative and you were more focused on being embarrassed or disheartened and expressing more of a judgment of yourself than anything else.
NUNO: Okay. Well, I will ponder this. Okay.
For a long time now, for many years, I have been addressing to discomforts – here’s that word again – in my body consciousness, through something that I call instant healing. That’s how I started calling it, was instant healing, and it may not be an appropriate term. But what it is, is basically I started quite a while ago, if I was injured or had a pain or something like that, that I would direct my energy to the affected area and usually that was quite effective, at least to the extent that the feeling stopped.
And so what I was wondering is, that action that I do, is it actually a regenerative or healing action? Or is it more simply a matter of acknowledging the feeling?
ELIAS: I would say both. It IS acknowledging the feeling, but it’s also healing.
NUNO: Okay. And on that, what is the difference between healing and regeneration?
ELIAS: Healing is moving in a direction of restoring something, in a manner of speaking, to its natural state.
Now; that doesn’t mean “A” natural state, because that presupposes that there is one official reality, which there isn’t. Therefore healing is the action of restoring something in an individual to its natural state with that individual.
Regeneration is simply instructing the body to do what it naturally does. You are instructing the body to degenerate in relation to aging. That’s not a natural expression for it, and you have to be constantly instructing it to do that. Regeneration is something that it automatically would do.
Now; in that, that’s not a matter of necessarily healing the body. It’s simply stopping communicating to it to be degenerating. Because in that action of degeneration, you’re not necessarily creating a manifestation that would be something such as dis-ease. You’re not necessarily creating something that is an additional manifestation. You’re simply creating a situation in which you are communicating to the body, to the cells, to stop reproducing.
NUNO: Okay. And in what you just said, you said “you.” So when you said “you,” you meant me specifically?
ELIAS: No, I am speaking in general.
NUNO: Oh, okay. Because I had thought that I had been making some progress in the direction of reducing degeneration?
ELIAS: I agree.
NUNO: Okay.
ELIAS: I was simply answering your question.
NUNO: I understand. I just wanted to clarify that.
And on a different topic. So on the subject of covid, for example, I think I’ve done really well with not paying attention to that. And really, I mean that whole pandemic experience has been kind of more of a slight annoyance more than anything else to me. And I credit myself with that simply because I pay as little attention as possible as I can to that. Is that correct?
ELIAS: I would agree.
NUNO: Okay. And then I’m trying to move in the same direction with the Ukraine war, on that as well, and I think I’m making progress. I’m definitely making progress on that, as compared to where I was when that conflict first started. So where I’m going with this is, basically what I’m doing is what you suggested. I am, by not paying attention to those subjects, I’m altering my objective experience in a way that it minimizes the effect of those on me.
So I was wondering, why can I not do this with climate change as well? I don’t really want to experience climate change, but on the other hand, I don’t want to be one of those people that denies climate change exists. So anyways, can you give me some clarification on this?
ELIAS: (Pause) I would say that climate change is somewhat different, in that with the virus you can choose whether to activate that or not activate that. You’re acknowledging that it exists. You are acknowledging that it’s part of your reality, but you are choosing whether you actually activate the virus in relation to your body or not. In relation to the war, you’re also acknowledging that that is a part of your reality, but it’s removed from you. You acknowledge the mass participation in relation to it. Until now, you haven’t necessarily not had it affect you. It HAS affected you. Now you know what it’s doing, and therefore you can choose to be minimizing that or even not engaging it at all.
But in association with climate change, this too is a mass expression, but this is something that you are directly engaging on a daily basis. You breathe air. You drink water. You are in contact with the physical earth, the planet. And in that, you also are a part of what is occurring in relation to climate change. Do you recycle?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: Do you compost?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: You are directly participating. You’re not directly participating with the war. It’s part of your reality, but it’s indirect. You’re not directly participating with the virus. You could be, but you choose not to be. And in that, you’re not necessarily being affected, other than some minor inconveniences.
I would say that to a degree, it’s similar for you with climate change. You’re not being dramatically affected, for the most part. You might be being affected at times in an inconvenience, but you’re also engaging it more. You’re participating with it more. And that’s not to say that you should stop recycling or you should stop composting. I would say that you’ve done an excellent job of not being affected by climate change as much as many individuals. And in that, what are you bothered by?
NUNO: Well, currently not much. I mean, last summer we had some extremely hot weather that was inconvenient, but really my concern is not in the present timeframe. My concern is as we move forward, and in ten years from now, as you have stated, things are going to be quite different.
ELIAS: Yes. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that you are a moving in a direction in which you are going to be significantly differently participating.
NUNO: Okay. I mean, that’s good to know. So I think from what you’ve said, that kind of answers my question. And it is effective to not be overly concentrating and paying a lot of attention to that, and it is working to my benefit to do that on the subject of climate change, is what I would say.
ELIAS: I would agree.
NUNO: Okay. Then that’s good. (Elias laughs) So I can put the images, the apocalyptic images, out of my head?
ELIAS: I would agree with that also. (Laughs)
NUNO: Okay. So here’s a question. As you probably are aware, I’ve been listening to sessions from other people more frequently recently, and it’s actually been kind of beneficial. But one of the things that caught my attention was that one individual that you were talking to, he’s moved in a direction – and I don’t really know the specifics, I’m not privy to the specifics of what he’s actually doing – but he’s moving in a direction in which he is completely trusting himself in that direction. He trusts that he will present to himself what he needs to move forward in the direction that he’s chosen, and you were very acknowledging of that, of his trust in himself. And to me, it struck me as this being a very important, key piece and something that I am missing in myself. So—
ELIAS: How so?
NUNO: Continue.
ELIAS: How so?
NUNO: Well, in that I don’t think I trust myself quite that much, in that I’m still hung up on the whole money thing to some extent and well, to a lesser—
ELIAS: That you definitely can practice with, and practice trusting yourself with. First of all, what I would say to you in relation to “the whole money thing” is that a significant piece of that with you is simply not being present. I would say to you, I would definitely acknowledge you that as long as you ARE being present, you DO trust yourself in relation to money and you don’t fret about it. You don’t worry about it. You’re not concerned about it. It’s when you stop being present, that’s when you have difficulty trusting.
NUNO: Okay. That makes sense.
ELIAS: I would say that that’s simply a matter of practice, and that in that, I would be very acknowledging of you. I definitely know that you trust yourself quite well, as long as you’re being present.
NUNO: That’s interesting. I didn’t think I trusted myself that much.
ELIAS: And what would you say are your indicators that you don’t trust yourself that much?
NUNO: Um… I sometimes have difficulty just letting things go and not be concerned with it, just telling myself that this is something that will resolve itself and I don’t need to be—
ELIAS: Such as?
NUNO: Um… I don’t know. I really can’t think of anything right now.
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would say there isn’t that much. (Both laugh)
NUNO: Okay. (Laughs) Well, that’s good to know.
ELIAS: What I would encourage you in, my friend, is not to be moving in a direction of thinking very hard trying to FIND something that you don’t trust yourself in. And when something occurs in a moment and you notice, then actually pause for a moment and evaluate whether you actually don’t trust yourself in that situation or whether it was simply a momentary reaction in something familiar, but then you move on.
Because that’s very normal. I would say that especially with any type of expression that is considerably familiar, it’s a matter of realizing that you likely expressed in a certain direction for years and years and years, and therefore it’s very familiar. But the factor that you might have an initial reaction in a moment – and it’s likely literally a moment, not even an entire second – and in that, that you very quickly recover yourself and realize that this is not something to be concerned with, and that you’re not actually holding onto something and not letting it go, that you’re simply finding yourself in a situation in which you had a moment, that’s different.
Now; I would say that there may be expressions that involve other people that you might find more difficult to let go of, but that’s not a matter of not trusting yourself. That’s more a matter of what you’re paying… what you’re making important.
NUNO: Yes. I see that. Excellent. Thank you for that.
ELIAS: You are very welcome. I would be very acknowledging of you, my friend. You have practiced extensively and you have moved intentionally in directions in which you have built a considerable trust of yourself. Therefore, I would say that you’re likely simply generalizing in relation to moments that you may have occasionally of having an initial reaction to something, and then automatically assuming that you’re not letting something go. That’s not true.
NUNO: Okay. I understand.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: I’d like to ask about my exercise routine. I don’t do a lot of outdoor activity in the winter and sometimes not in the summer either, if the weather’s too hot. But what I’ve been doing is I’ve been exercising on an elliptical machine. I mostly run on it. I don’t really do much on the upper body on it. So I use the elliptical for running and I like the elliptical because it seems to be a pretty close approximation to normal running. And I do a little bit of weight-lifting, just for the upper body, to build strength. So I would like to ask you, is this enough, what I am doing? Is it adequate to maintain the body consciousness?
ELIAS: (Pause) Yes. I would say, do you use the elliptical on an incline?
NUNO: No, but I do increase the resistance, which from my understanding simulates heavier weight. But I could incline it.
ELIAS: I would say that the only piece that I would suggest that you adjust would be to include an incline. And you don’t have to do an incline in every exercise workout. You can do it, I would say, perhaps every other time.
NUNO: Okay. And would you say the amount of exercise I’m currently engaging is sufficient?
ELIAS: And how much do you do per day?
NUNO: It varies. I’d say… My routine is that I do two or three five-minute runs and then one… It’s actually about three hundred meters. I run about three hundred meters approximately, three times a day. Two or three times a day I’ll run three hundred meters on the elliptical, and then one kilometer in the evening.
ELIAS: And how often do you engage the weights?
NUNO: I try to do that daily, but it’s a very simple… It’s only twenty-five pounds and I raise it with my arms twenty times, and that’s basically the extent of it.
ELIAS: Very well. I would say that that is sufficient.
NUNO: Okay.
ELIAS: What, what are you questioning about it?
NUNO: Nothing. Just whether it was sufficient or not. What I’m questioning about it is, I thought you might suggest that it would be better or more effective if I exercised outdoors.
ELIAS: No, I understand your choice to be engaging with the machine, and that is acceptable and if it’s not something that you WILL do outside, then I would say that it’s, in a manner of speaking, better that you do on the machine than to not do.
NUNO: Yeah, I understand that. I mean I do enjoy hiking. It’s just that it’s… I can’t do it every day because it’s too much demand on my time, and I definitely don’t like doing that in the winter. So it’s… But I do hike occasionally.
ELIAS: I understand, and I would say that it is definitely beneficial for you to be doing some activity such as hiking, but I also understand the limitations. And therefore, I would be encouraging of you in relation to how you have decided to adjust to that.
NUNO: Okay. Okay. Thank you.
I was wondering, do I have any contemporary focuses that follow your expression?
ELIAS: Concurrent focuses?
NUNO: What I mean is, that listens to the information that you offer and that kind of thing.
ELIAS: That is privy to the information, yes, but not that engages conversation with myself.
NUNO: Okay. I don’t really have any impressions on this. I haven’t tried to actually generate any impressions. The reason I’m asking is, it would be interesting if not beneficial to me to communicate with somebody like that.
ELIAS: I would say it would likely be neither.
NUNO: Oh. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: I would say that many, many, many people think that they would be interested in and it would be beneficial for them if they were to engage with another focus of themself, especially one that would be interested in following the information that I offer or even engaging conversations with myself. And consistently that never happens, even when they meet each other. And I’ve expressed this repeatedly, but people of course don’t necessarily believe that and they think that their experience will be different, and it’s not. And when they meet the other focus or when they have communication with the other focus, they don’t have an interest in each other, and they generally don’t feel any draw to each other OR they don’t even feel a connection in relation to being able to communicate with the other individual, even though they may both be sharing the same information.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
ELIAS: And THAT is very understandable. You automatically have no interest in another focus of yourself, for two reasons. One, because it’s an automatic threat to identity, and your body automatically rejects that. And it doesn’t necessarily reject it in the manner of “I hate that person,” but it simply moves in the direction of you have no interest. And sometimes, when the person insists on pushing that, they actually move in the direction of being repulsed. It’s very automatic.
There’s a reason that you don’t meet or know or communicate with other focuses of yourself in the same time framework. You are experiencing differently, and in that, it’s about the purity of your experience as an individual and your uniqueness.
NUNO: Okay. I understand that. (Elias chuckles)
And so one quick last question: have I been making any progress with inducing the theta state?
ELIAS: I would say definitely yes. You are definitely getting closer, and I would say that you have momentarily actually engaged it.
NUNO: Okay. That was my feeling, too. All right. This has been very productive. Thank you for interacting with me.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting. And I am tremendously supportive and encouraging of you, and will be offering my energy to you continuously in being helpful in perhaps buffering out some of these other energies.
In tremendous love to you and dear friendship, as always, au revoir.
NUNO: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 1 hour 1 minute)
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