Exploring Magic as a Pyramid
Topics:
“Elemental Energy and Magic Talents”
“Other-Dimensional versus Extra-Terrestrial Encounters”
“Teleporting Mary’s Ring”
“Shared Focus as Magicians”
“Fairies and Elves”
“Attention and Importance”
Friday, October 22, 2021 (Private/In Person)
Participants: Mary (Michael), Ann (Vivette), Denise (Azura) and Melissa (Leah)
ELIAS: Continuing! [from previous session]
ANN: Our theme today is magic. This is our magic pyramid session. Saige is with us in spirit, and we don’t know where Mary goes, so (group laughter) we’ll have to fill her in later. (Elias laughs)
MELISSA: Oh yeah, we didn’t ask her if she had questions.
ANN: Do you know does she have questions about magic?
DENISE: She’s just supporting us.
ANN: All right. [To Denise] Do you have the list?
DENISE: Yes.
ANN: Do you want to start?
DENISE: Yes. We would like to know if each of us has a forte with a certain elemental energy, and what each of our magical talents would be, similar to my channeling with the other group.
MELISSA: I think air is mine. That’s my impression.
ELIAS: (Pause) Water.
GROUP: Ooh!
DENISE: [To Ann] What’s your impression?
ANN: No, what’s her magical forte?
DENISE: Oh, I thought we were doing elements.
ANN: We’ll do her and then we’ll do…
MELISSA: Ah, magic? It could have something to do with seeing the big picture. Laszlo told me that it’s a talent for seeing the big picture of people, which is a type of divination. So…
ELIAS: I would say divination, and that you could develop that.
MELISSA: Really! Okay. That would be my magical talent? Okay. That’s cool.
ANN: My element I thought was water.
MELISSA: You have to be water if I’m water. (Laughs)
ANN: Or fire maybe. No, Mary’s fire. What would mine be?
MELISSA: Air?
ELIAS: (Whispering) You can be water.
ANN: Oh! (Group laughter)
MELISSA: It wouldn’t have to be a different one. (Elias laughs)
ANN: Is that my element? Water?
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: I figured. I love water so much, how could it not be water?
MELISSA: But she’s more emotional than I am.
ANN: Which is water. Water is very emotional.
MELISSA: You’re more emotional.
ANN: I don’t know about that.
MELISSA: Okay. (Group laughter)
ANN: I’m more expressive, maybe.
MELISSA: Really! Okay.
ANN: And what’s my magical talent? My magical talent: I have ideas.
ELIAS: What?
DENISE: Share three.
ANN: All right. The only reason I have ideas is because even as a little kid I’ve always been drawn to… I have these images of these apothecaries and such, so I think somehow alchemy, because I think with transformation… I’m even now into plant oils or trees, and I am so drawn to trees. So I think it might have something to do with either alchemy or trees. I don’t know what magical talent has to do with trees, though. But I would say some kind of alchemy or herbal —
ELIAS: That would be earth magic.
ANN: Earth magic.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: But alchemy or earth magic? It’s all the same thing, kinda. Which one?
ELIAS: Earth magic.
ANN: So I’m earth magic. I kinda feel that. Earth magic. And then what aspect would I be able to have the most initial success? What could I have the most with earth magic? Just to give myself some confidence to play around with, what could I do with earth magic that I would most likely be able to have a little bit of success with?
ELIAS: (Pause) Bending plants towards you.
ANN: Oh, okay. I’ll try that one.
MELISSA: Why would she want to?
ANN: Because I’m experimenting with magic!
MELISSA: Okay.
ANN: Because I’m practicing.
ELIAS: You don’t have to bend them far but simply have them lean towards you.
ANN: Not with my hands. Yeah.
MELISSA: Okay.
ANN: Just having them come towards me.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: Sending them… Like my initial thing to do that, I would just send them encouraging… or I would feel encouraging about them and…
MELISSA: Interesting.
ELIAS: And pull them towards you with your hands.
ANN: Oh!
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: What could I do? What could I do with water?
ELIAS: (Pause) I would say, …
ANN: Make it rain. (Laughs)
ELIAS: That’s somewhat industrious. (Chuckles)
MELISSA: It’s a little more advanced than where I am right now.
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would say that you could practice separating water from anything else.
MELISSA: Okay. Separating it from anything else, okay. Like the ground?
ELIAS: Anything.
MELISSA: Oh, okay.
ANN: Like taking water out of—
MELISSA: Like extracting it?
ANN: Except a human. Don’t do that. (Group laughter)
ELIAS: No, not extracting; simply separating it and therefore having it move away from.
ANN: Like if water’s in a bowl, having it move away from the edge of the bowl?
ELIAS: You could.
ANN: Wow.
ELIAS: Or if it’s on the ground, have it move slightly in a direction in which it isn’t moving naturally, towards something—
MELISSA: And then I’m going to move on to oceans?
ELIAS: You could.
ANN: And then we’ll call you Moses.
DENISE: That is a tremendous energy. (Group laughter)
ANN: All right. Let’s ask Saige’s element. I feel… she’s fire?
DENISE: Fire.
ANN: Ahhh.
DENISE: I felt it when you said it.
ANN: Yeah, fire. And let’s ask her… What’s the question?
MELISSA: Talent.
ANN: Her magical talent would lean towards…?
ELIAS: Is there an impression?
ANN: An impression for Saige. Fire; I only think of transformation when it comes to fire, but…
DENISE: I was trying to think in terms of her photography, like she said timing. She has a talent for timing.
ANN: Oh, maybe like when you go in the Hogwarts you go into the fireplace and you come out… What is that? Is that just transporting?
DENISE: That’s a teleportation.
ANN: Oh. Can she teleport? Would it be teleportation? No. I think it has something to do with some kind of transforming something.
DENISE: Transfiguration? I’m getting, like, something out of nothing. Like fire, when you start a fire there’s nothing there, and then you have a flame as it burns, but it’s still…
ANN: And I get like with fire, it starts as one thing and then transforms into something else – smoke.
DENISE: So we’re going to go with transformation.
MELISSA: Or transfiguration, whatever the word is. Transfiguration is something changing shape, apparently.
ELIAS: (Pause) Transformative, yes.
ANN: Transformative.
MELISSA: Is that her talent?
ANN: And is Mary’s element fire, too?
ELIAS: No.
ANN: It’s air.
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: This is so confusing to me. Okay. Something in your personality, but the personality doesn’t match the elemental talent.
ELIAS: The personality doesn’t have to match.
MELISSA: Okay. All right.
ANN: And her magical skill… I mean, channeling would be the obvious one.
DENISE: There was something about her being able to see energy.
ANN: Oh yeah, she can see.
DENISE: It would be… What do you think? Clairvoyant?
ANN: Clairvoyant.
MELISSA: Clairvoyance.
ANN: Okay, she’s clairvoyant.
DENISE: And then we have to do my element, I guess.
ANN: Oh, you are… What do you think?
DENISE: Air? Fire?
ANN: I think earth for you.
MELISSA: Earth. Oh yeah.
DENISE: Yeah, let’s do earth.
ANN: Yeah. Okay. (Group laughter) That was easy.
DENISE: Magical talent? Do I get a new —
ANN: I thought you were channeling.
MELISSA: Yeah, I thought it was channeling. Is it channeling?
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: No, you could have another one. I don’t care. You can have as many as you want. (Group laughter)
DENISE: That reminds me. I didn’t write down the question where I had a bone to pick with you from earlier.
ANN: Oh, right.
DENISE: I was after you for another superpower and you’re like, “Well, how many do you think you are?” and now I have this new superpower of channeling you! (Laughter)
MELISSA: It was different, though. I think of the superpowers as something that motivates us from doing nothing to something. (Laughs) Kind of.
ANN: Or affecting other people, or…
DENISE: How did he put it? It was something that we do naturally that other people don’t.
ELIAS: Correct.
DENISE: And that also can be honed and developed.
ELIAS: Correct.
DENISE: Like a skill or a talent.
ELIAS: Correct.
DENISE: Oh. (Pause) Ann, did you want to ask the question about the creating something out of thin air that becomes its own entity but we couldn’t do the unicorn?
ANN: Oh yeah. If I knew how to do it, or I was able to create an elephant out of thin air, and then it makes its own reality. Once you create something, it’s its own self.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: So I don’t control it – which is why there’s no control, because you don’t control it but you can create it. I got that. We are creators, but we don’t control. So that kind of helped me understand that a little bit. But you told these guys, when they’re on their magic, they couldn’t create—
DENISE: No, it was our magic pyramid session.
ANN: Oh! That we couldn’t create a unicorn?
DENISE: Yeah. We’d be able to see it, like we could create it in our midst and see it briefly, but we couldn’t create one in our reality.
ANN: How can we do that?
MELISSA: Oh, briefly. He said briefly.
ELIAS: Because it doesn’t belong in your reality.
DENISE: Because it already exists somewhere else?
ELIAS: They ARE real, and they exist—
ANN: But not in our reality.
ELIAS: — in other dimensions.
DENISE: So we couldn’t create a dragon for the same reason?
ELIAS: Correct.
MELISSA: But I thought you said we could do it briefly.
ELIAS: You could, but it couldn’t remain.
MELISSA: Okay.
ELIAS: Because it doesn’t belong in your reality.
ANN: That must be why the ETs had to disappear in Area 52, because they don’t belong here yet.
ELIAS: They don’t belong in your reality period.
ANN: Well, they could.
ELIAS: Not yet.
ANN: Really?
ELIAS: That’s not extra-terrestrial; that’s other-dimensional. Other-dimensional does not belong in your reality.
MELISSA: Ever.
ELIAS: Correct. Extra-terrestrial is different. And I have expressed to you that you haven’t encountered extra-terrestrials yet.
DENISE: Only aliens.
ELIAS: Aliens, yes.
ANN: What did I say? Did I say alien or extra-terrestrial? I thought I said extra-terrestrial.
ELIAS: Aliens.
ANN: I said alien just right now? Did I say alien?
MELISSA: I don’t know, but I interpreted it that way.
ANN: Okay, well, I meant extra-terrestrial, because I knew that. Extra-terrestrials—
ELIAS: You said Area 51.
ANN: Oh, Area 51. Ohh! And they were aliens?
MELISSA: Yes. Okay, that’s why.
ANN: Okay. Okay. Thank you. Oh! Well, that was my mistake, because I was thinking Area 51 were extra-terrestrials but they weren’t, they were other-dimensional.
ELIAS: Correct.
ANN: Okay. I didn’t know that. Or maybe I did and forgot. Okay. Clarifying, clarifying.
MELISSA: A quick question.
ELIAS: Extra-terrestrials have not been in your reality yet. You haven’t encountered them yet.
DENISE: They’re watching us.
ANN: But we most likely will?
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: Yes. Okay.
ELIAS: Most definitely.
MELISSA: So the ones that we may make contact with, they’re aware of us now?
ANN: Oh yeah, I love those guys.
MELISSA: I tried to contact one of my focuses there. I believe I have, like “Oh, we know about you!” I’m just curious, did anyone do that before me? It doesn’t matter, but I’m just curious. They know about us because some of us connected with them? Like, “Look, we know about you,” and…
ELIAS: They know about you because they’ve watched you.
MELISSA: I mean, they know that we know about them now? And that there’s like a relief? They’re kind of relieved that we know and now they’re making plans to contact us?
ELIAS: No.
ANN: Oh. Do they know we know about them? That’s the first question.
ELIAS: To a degree.
MELISSA: Laszlo told me it’s a small group.
ELIAS: To a degree, because not officially, not in relation to your world that you are aware of them because you’ve seen them or you’ve detected them in space – no. But yes, because of what you were expressing, that some of you have connected with them and they have been receptive to that. Therefore, yes, they… they speculate that some of you know about them through other means, not through physical means.
MELISSA: Oh, okay.
ANN: Not visually seeing them.
MELISSA: They’re speculating. They don’t know for sure.
ELIAS: Correct.
MELISSA: Just one more question: My focus is a male there that I connected with?
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: Okay. It took me a while because it was confusing. (Laughs)
ELIAS: That would be a translation.
MELISSA: Oh! Okay. All right. That’s all my questions. Sorry.
DENISE: No, that’s fine.
MELISSA: Okay.
DENISE: We don’t have enough questions written down for the whole session.
MELISSA: Okay. (Group laughter)
DENISE: Teleportation: You wanted to ask if we could teleport to someone without knowing the specific location, which brought up the thing of “Oh my god, we’re teleporting” into (laughs). So, can we teleport to someone without knowing their location?
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: Okay. That’s what I thought.
DENISE: And we won’t land in the water.
ELIAS: Correct, because your target is the other individual’s energy. Therefore, you are moving in space to a specific target, to a specific destination, which would be the other individual’s energy.
MELISSA: Okay.
ANN: Okay, so I want to play around with this, speaking of teleportation. Remember when Oba and I teleported this piece of paper that you got?
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: Okay. So obviously I can do it, if I did it; now the trick is to do it intentionally.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: Can you give us ways to practice doing it intentionally? – objects; I don’t want to teleport myself yet.
DENISE: Same.
ANN: I’m very wary of magic, since I’m hearing all this bad stuff. But I’m okay if I sacrifice an apple or something. (Denise laughs)
MELISSA: You mean my experience with the crystals and teleporting?
ANN: Yeah, exactly! No, I want to teleport something… Let’s say I could practice with any of these gals, my magic pyramid friends. Let me tell you how I would do it, and then you can tell me… You can…
DENISE: Improve upon it.
ANN: Improve upon it. I honestly think the harder I try, the less successful I’m going to be, because I’m trying to think about this paper. I feel like you have to have a desire, an intention... First of all, I feel like there has to be a lot of energy. Like when I wrote this message on the piece of paper, I loved this message: “Be that which you wish to seem.” And I thought there, I was enjoying writing the message and folding it up, there was just something really magical about that moment. So first of all, I’m thinking whatever I want to teleport, it’s going to be easier to have a connection with something that I want to teleport, and then it’s going to be easier to have a connection with the person I want to teleport to. I kind of feel just to set my intention and feel good about it and then forget about it. I mean, I don’t know. You can improve upon that. Or suggestions?
DENISE: And what just happened while she was asking that question? Something happened. You’re feeling for something? It was like you were distracted.
ELIAS: I wasn’t distracted, but you were generating an action.
ANN: Who was? She was?
ELIAS: All of you.
MELISSA: And you turned your head away. I did see you turn your head away.
DENISE: You were feeling down in the side of the chair.
MELISSA: What did we do?
ELIAS: It didn’t go there.
ANN: What?
MELISSA: Wait, what?
ANN: We teleported something?
MELISSA: What? What?
ELIAS: (Chuckles) It went under your table.
DENISE: Oh!
MELISSA: What is it?
ANN: It’s Mary’s ring!
MELISSA: Oh wait, did you try to teleport that just now?
ANN: No, I didn’t try. (Laughs)
MELISSA: Did we all do it?
DENISE: Off your hand? You noticed it was gone, and that’s what your reaction was?
MELISSA: Oh.
DENISE: Oh, my goodness! (Ann screams)
MELISSA: Oh my god. I’m glad you… I mean, I didn’t think I could—
DENISE: I didn’t want to interrupt you, because you were in the middle of your question with your hands in the air, and I’m like, “Look at his face! What’s going on?”
MELISSA: Okay.
DENISE: I’m like, this is weird. (Elias chuckles)
ANN: So Mary is helping us! (Elias chuckles)
MELISSA: But how did we do that without even intending it?
ANN: Okay, so now explain…
ELIAS: You were discussing teleportation.
ANN: Yeah, teleportation. So our concentration and our focus is on it…
ELIAS: You were concentrating on the act of teleporting. And in that, you’re all discussing this and you’re generating an actual focus of intention and object – not a person but an object. And you were in a concentration of something small as an object that you could move. And the solidarity, let us say, or the collective concentration between you – actually, four; it would be including Michael. And in that, even though Michael isn’t objectively present with you, —
ANN: We’re all connected.
ELIAS: And he’s also connected with you in relation to this conversation. And in that, the collective intention and energy, without trying (group laughter) – this is what you did.
ANN: Without trying. Wow.
ELIAS: That’s what you noticed. I noticed the —
DENISE: Disappearance?
ELIAS: Yes. I noticed the change in that body aspect, and I noticed a movement. And in that, noticing movement, yes, I was observing how it moved, and it moved there.
MELISSA: But you also moved your head that way. You looked in that direction too.
ELIAS: No.
DENISE: Did we surprise you?
ELIAS: Yes. (Group laughter)
MELISSA: Yay!
DENISE: We surprised ourselves. Yeah, your expression, I was like, “Where’d he go? What’s going on? What happened?”
ANN: So, I’m taking from this [that] it’s going to probably be easier for us as we build up our confidence, maybe not necessarily to say “Okay, let’s teleport this to her,” but just make the intention of teleporting right now and seeing what we notice. If one of us sees something in our environment that wasn’t there before, that’s probably a nice place to start.
ELIAS: I would agree.
ANN: So we can start there, …
DENISE: That’s like the gifts, I do that.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: Yeah. You teleport the gifts.
ELIAS: Therefore you’re already successful. You’re already doing it, and in that, then you can notice something that becomes missing or something that appears, in either direction.
ANN: Well, I feel like I do that frickin’ all the time, because I KNOW something was there and it’s not. And I’m like okay, I just frickin’ disappeared it. It’ll come back.
MELISSA: But when we disappear, we don’t teleport. We’re not teleporting when we disappear things.
ANN: Sometimes.
ELIAS: Sometimes.
MELISSA: Have I ever teleported something?
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: Hm.
ELIAS: Sometimes when you disappear something you are actually teleporting it. You are moving it to a different place.
DENISE: Well, your stones that went too came back, your lapis and your rainbow.
MELISSA: Oh yeah, you meant the lapis and the rainbow moonstone that I disappeared several months ago and then reappeared recently. Did I teleport those?
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: Where’d they go?
ELIAS: (Pause) Simply into another room.
MELISSA: Oh my god. Really? So they’d been in my sweater the whole time? Until I picked up that sweater months later?
ELIAS: No.
MELISSA: Oh.
ELIAS: They were in a different room.
MELISSA: Okay.
DENISE: And then they went back in the sweater?
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: Okay.
ANN: Wow! Now, I feel like I know that. So when I have that feeling, sometimes when I can’t find something and I feel like okay, I just can’t find it. But there are other times when I have the feeling like…
ELIAS: You know the difference.
ANN: I do know the difference. So that is trusting myself. Like I feel like I know when I do it.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: And I’m like, okay. And then the only way I can get it to come back or to reappear somewhere is just to like all right, just forget it and really leave it alone and just trust that it’ll come back.
MELISSA: Yeah, you know when you disappear it.
ANN: Yeah. I do know when I disappear it, because it feels different than when you lose something.
MELISSA: Yeah.
ANN: You know?
MELISSA: There’s a reason.
ANN: So then I think the first step to being able to do it intentionally is not be very specific about the OBJECT but just have our intention of wanting to teleport. Maybe we could do like a little conference call or Zoom call and then just notice what we notice but not have any…
Oh, this is interesting, because you know how you say what you expect will happen will happen? And I almost said not to have expectations.
DENISE: Trust.
ANN: So what’s the difference between not having expectations and trusting? [To others] Do you understand what I’m asking? No. Okay. (Group laughter)
DENISE: Is the ring teleported back onto your finger yet? (Group laughter)
ELIAS: No.
MELISSA: I think not having expectations is tied with trusting.
ANN: Oh yeah, is it? Okay, yeah.
DENISE: Expectation is “It has to look like this,” and trust is just “I know it’s going to happen”?
ELIAS: It depends.
DENISE: Okay.
ELIAS: What I’d say to you is not to be black and white, because sometimes you have expectations and it serves you. It isn’t that expectations period are bad or negative, but it’s a matter of whether those expectations that you have are a “should” or a “shouldn’t.”
ANN: Oh yeah, “It should happen like this,” or—
ELIAS: Yes.
DENISE: Or “it needs to happen in this timeframe”...
ANN: Right.
ELIAS: When an expectation is an absolute, or when it is attached with a should or a shouldn’t, then it’s questionable, and then it’s likely not of benefit to you and it’s something that is worthy of you looking at and altering. But then there are some expectations that you have that are in your terms good or that serve you; therefore, it’s merely a matter of being able to define what type of expectation you’re expressing.
MELISSA: What else?
DENISE: So we’ve got Saige’s question and then the shared focus with us five as magic practitioners. Can we do that one?
MELISSA: Could you tell us about a shared focus where all five of us are magic practitioners?
ELIAS: (Pause) Very well. I would say, in which all five of you together are, the closest one in time to now would be the mid-1700s in Scotland.
MELISSA: Oh!
DENISE: Woo!
ANN: And were two of us males and three of us females? Or were we all females?
ELIAS: No. All females.
ANN: All female. Okay.
ELIAS: I would say in that time framework there were very, very few male individuals that were practitioners. It was very rare.
MELISSA: Wow!
ELIAS: Not in that place.
ANN: Do we all practice the same type of magic?
ELIAS: Yes, because you all did it together.
ANN: And was it earth magic?
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: Do we have any focuses as practitioners of formal ceremonial magic? Such as sorcerers?
ANN: Or high priestesses?
ELIAS: Define what you mean by formal ceremonial magic, because most magic incorporates elements of ritual and ceremony.
MELISSA: Okay. I guess I’m thinking there’s witches who live in the woods and then there’s sorcerers who, I don’t know, are formally educated somehow, well educated. Yeah, I don’t know. Maybe it doesn’t have anything to do with our reality. (Laughs)
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would say—
ANN: You mean like Harry Potter wizard kind of things?
MELISSA: Yeah, or I’m thinking of like the witch of the world. They’re like politically involved, the sorcerers.
ELIAS: I would say those are stories.
MELISSA: Okay. (Laughs) All right.
ELIAS: And that in relation to magic, what you would term to be formal education would simply be apprenticeships.
MELISSA: Okay.
ELIAS: Which vary in how they are expressed, meaning that depending on what type of magic is being expressed, some apprentices are acquired at older ages, after adolescence. Some apprentices are acquired at very young ages, before adolescence. Therefore, it depends on the time and the place and the society in which the magic is being practiced, and then how they are educating the practitioners in that. But in relation to anything that would resemble an actual school, in your reality you don’t have that.
MELISSA: Okay. Okay.
ELIAS: You’ve never had that in relation to magic. Magic is something that is, in your reality, either passed on from generation to generation through families, OR it is passed through apprentices from one group to another, and therefore through generations also. But there would not be, in YOUR reality, any type of magical school.
Now, that may change futurely – that depends. That depends on what directions you move in and what you might establish in relation to re-establishing magical practices, and you might choose to move in different directions and create magical schools. But thus far in your history you haven’t done that.
MELISSA: Okay. I was hoping for a story about our focus – you know, something interesting, like a little anecdote.
ELIAS: A story about the focus that you share together?
MELISSA: Yeah. Or something special we did.
ELIAS: (Pause) I would say that what was significant is that you were considerably accepted by the community, which is not always the case. In actuality, throughout human history, many times that ISN’T the case. But in the community that all of you shared the focus together with you were well accepted, and therefore you were viewed as healers with additional powers, that you were accepted because you had abilities to be healing, and—
ANN: And did we use alchemy to do that? Is that where my apothecary comes from?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
ANN: I feel like I have an apothecary somewhere.
MELISSA: You mean with these little vials?
ELIAS: Yes. Many – many, many, many. And I would say that between all of you together, you were known to generate other types of magic that was tolerated because of the healing magic.
ANN: Because they trusted us.
ELIAS: Not entirely.
ANN: Or they just wanted us to heal them.
DENISE: They wanted our services.
ANN: What are the other types of magic that we did, besides healing?
ELIAS: I would say that with yourselves, in a manner of speaking privately, you would engage in different playful acts. Two of you incorporated familiars in that focus.
ANN: Was it Michael and Denise?
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: I figured. They’re the most magical ones.
ELIAS: No. (Laughs) I would say the apothecary was yours. (Group laughter)
DENISE: You gotta do ‘em all now, you gotta do ‘em all.
ELIAS: I would say that in that, the other two were fascinated with transforming different physical manifestations.
MELISSA: Like what?
ELIAS: Generally it was simply a fun game that the two of you would play.
ANN: You [Melissa] and Saige. I have the apothecary.
ELIAS: That you would play with together, generally with stones.
MELISSA: Oh, interesting. How would the community even know about this?
ANN: No, they didn’t know about THAT part.
MELISSA: Okay.
ELIAS: Correct.
ANN: He said we did it when we were alone.
ELIAS: Correct. Correct.
ANN: We just played these games among us.
MELISSA: But they tolerated our other activities.
ELIAS: Because there were some times that you did generate… (group laughter and comments throughout this as they get what Elias is saying) …some expressions that would be questionable in relation to affecting of other individuals or situations around the other individuals, even if you weren’t directly affecting the other individuals. You did have a tendency to, let us say, retaliate against some individuals at times in relation to things around them that would be faulty, or… [To Melissa, with a humorous tone] Which yes, that was a look that was expressed frequently.
MELISSA: Oh! Was it really?
DENISE: Was it you?
ANN: I believe she would do that. (Group laughter) I think she would be the main instigator of that.
DENISE: Of “Oops!”
ANN: “Oops, I did it again!” (Elias chuckles)
MELISSA: Did I hurt anyone?
ELIAS: Not generally, but I would say created some significant annoyances.
MELISSA: Oh. Because I think of that now. It’s a good thing I don’t know magic right now, because sometimes you don’t… Like there was this woman who was honking at me because I wasn’t going around the traffic circle fast enough, and I was thinking “Oh, I could just blow out her tires.” (Group laughter) Oops! (Group laughter)
ANN: But that always gets a little confusing for me in like, you know, everyone creates their reality. And it’s like healing, like you can’t heal someone without their permission. I would think that you couldn’t do a spell on somebody without their permission, except the fact that maybe THEY believed it, is why it happened, because they believed you have powers over them. Which we—
ELIAS: And also for the most part, it would be affecting manifestations and things AROUND them, not them directly.
ANN: Yeah, not them. Okay. I kind of want to do that again.
ELIAS: But the things around them could be considerably annoying.
MELISSA: Yeah. I would enjoy that. (Elias laughs)
ANN: Wasn’t that interesting! I could see you enjoying that, yes. (Group laughter) Because she sticks her finger in my drink—
MELISSA: Oh my god.
ANN: Just to see what I’m having. I’m like, “Okay…”
MELISSA: I did that so many years ago.
ANN: I know, but it was such an odd thing that I was like… But it was—
DENISE: But it was making it sweeter.
ANN: It sums your personality up, the little impish kind of… I mean, it’s just so you. So I can see you doing that in that focus.
MELISSA: Yeah, yeah.
ANN: Like kind of messing with people, going (lightly sing-song) “Hm!” (Elias laughs)
MELISSA: All right. Any other magic questions?
DENISE: Yeah, we have: Which essences of the team mosaic are interacting with the pyramid, our magic pyramid?
ELIAS: Repeat.
ANN: It would be you. Oh, YOUR team mosaic.
DENISE: Yeah.
ANN: All of them, right?
MELISSA: Which aspects of her mosaic are interacting with us in our pyramid? Like supposedly there are only… a bunch of them that are interacting with us? That was my impression.
DENISE: Well, Rose had connected with a few of them, to help me get their essence names. So she’s wondering if there are any that are specifically working with us with the magic pyramid, I think.
ELIAS: No.
MELISSA: Oh, okay.
ELIAS: You intersect, but that doesn’t mean that you are necessarily working together.
MELISSA: Okay. Hm.
DENISE: Ah! This isn’t on the list, but (Elias chuckles) we were talking about fairies, and I guess it was Sandra who had talked to you about fairies, and they… I think it was in association with the movie “The Lord of the Rings,” and they’re actually not very nice creatures. And me and Ann, we love our fairies, so we wanted to talk about how our fairies would differentiate from that? I’m not sure exactly. Did you want to ask anything about that?
ANN: Well, it’s weird because I know it’s me using my energy, but it’s a focal point. I use fairies, I guess, as a focal point, kind of like when I believed in God I prayed to God, and I went “Oh, my prayers were answered because I believed in God.” So then, just for fun, because it’s… To me, fairies are this light, bright little kind of fun energy. Maybe they’re a little mischievous every once in a while, but they’re very helpful.
DENISE: Traffic fairies.
ANN: I like traffic fairies, parking space fairies, fairies for this…
DENISE: Tooth fairies.
ANN: Like I get an image of—
DENISE: [Inaudible] the dentist.
ANN: Well, I didn’t do tooth fairies. Oh, you did that.
DENISE: I did it.
ANN: Oh, you did that. You helped. Thank you. So I send them out ahead to take care of things for me, so to me, fairies are really good. And then all of a sudden Sandra’s saying, “Oh, they’re evil,” and I’m like, “No, my fairies aren’t evil.”
MELISSA: I remember in someone’s session when you said that there were elves and fairies and they’re very different and they didn’t like each other. And the elves were haughty, and I don’t know about the fairies.
ANN: That’s got to be another dimension.
MELISSA: Yeah.
ANN: So are mine really fairies or are they just something I made up? It’s just a focal point?
ELIAS: Both.
ANN: But are the fairies I think of and I conjure up, are they real? Are they my fantasy? Are they my imagination?
ELIAS: Both. Because in that, yes, the idea of them is imagination that is actually connecting with something real. And sometimes you are actually connecting with them in their dimension, and then sometimes you are creating your own image of them with your own energy and projecting your own energy in that type of form.
ANN: I see. I could see me doing that. Well, because I kind of use them to do what I want.
ELIAS: Yes, because that is something that you play with and that you trust.
ANN: Yeah.
MELISSA: And it’s magical.
ELIAS: Actually, it is.
ANN: That’s interesting. I wonder if I could connect with a real other-dimensional fairy?
ELIAS: Yes. And you have. And that’s—
ANN: But would they be mean?
ELIAS: No. I would say, to clarify, think about your dimension. Your dimension doesn’t only incorporate your planet, but even if you were only thinking about your reality, which is your planet, there’s tremendous diversity in your planet. And in that, there are many different types of people that occupy your reality.
ANN: Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
ELIAS: I would say that would be the same in the other reality. And in that, yes, there are… (group chatter)… there are fairies and there are elves and they don’t generally mesh. They don’t generally get along. They are different species, and they don’t generally like or accept each other. I would also say that there are different types of fairies in that dimension, and some are very playful and some are what you would think of as like sprites. And—
ANN: Yeah, those are the ones I can ask about.
MELISSA: No, the sprites are the good ones, right?
ANN: Oh, I don’t know.
ELIAS: — some are very differently configured and have a very different appearance and are not necessarily what you would connect to in a fondness. (Group laughter)
ANN: Okay, so I have a question, because I believe this more and more – talking [about] vibration; it’s an Abraham Hicks thing, or maybe it’s Bashar, I don’t know whose – but if you’re in a really good, high-feeling good vibration, this bad stuff isn’t just going to come to you. Because you can’t get there, because it’s not of your vibration, so it can’t get to you. And if that’s not true, don’t tell me because I use this to make [inaudible]. (Group laughter)
What I’m also wondering is, sometimes, even though I say, “Don’t do the magic on me, it may go wrong,” I feel almost like if you get to a really good-feeling place, really good with good intentions, really lighthearted and not take things too seriously and are pretty intentional about it, these bad things, you’re not going to bring them to you. That’s kind of the way I roll in my life, not just with magic but with everything.
DENISE: It’s like when somebody —
ANN: I feel like it’s vibrations. The same thing with fairies; I’m not going to connect to the bad fairies unless I go there.
ELIAS: It’s not about vibration. It IS about intention. It is about energy.
MELISSA: I thought everything was vibrational. It’s not? Damn it.
ELIAS: And that’s a very metaphysical belief. But what I would say is, what you are explaining isn’t about vibration; it’s about what you’re paying attention to and your awareness, your self-awareness, and being intentional. And yes, you are correct that if you are expressing in a particular awareness and you are moving in a particular direction, remember: you create what you pay attention to and what you concentrate on. Therefore, in that, if you are moving in a particular direction and you are being very positive and you are moving in an expression of creating what you want and what is important to you, you won’t bring those other expressions to yourself.
ANN: Okay, so how do we… Like I could say, if you said what’s important to me, asked me that question, I would say, you know, my relationships, friends, clean air, clean water, blah blah blah. But I feel like you’re hinting on something else or you’re trying to get us to realize how important importances are. (Group laughter)
ELIAS: I agree. And I express, that is well said.
ANN: So what I feel like, since you’re reiterating it – and I’m going to give myself a point for picking up on this, that I feel like you’re trying to tell us or have us realize something. And I kind of just want you to cut to the chase. Come out and just tell us how important these importances are.
ELIAS: I have.
ANN: Oh my god. So I guess he’s putting it on me, that I should just start listening.
ELIAS: Not only you.
ANN: Okay, so importances. Oh, this is my question: I’m wondering if I really understand the right definition of importances, or I wonder if I’m misunderstanding something about importances or if I’m just slowly getting it. I don’t know. Am I misunderstanding something about importances? Because it seems like you’re making it more important than I would.
DENISE: I think you’re thinking too much.
MELISSA: Because it affects how [inaudible]? (Group laughter)
ELIAS: Not in this.
ANN: I KNEW there was something to this. There is something to this.
DENISE: But it’s intentionally making things important instead of letting the importance dictate to you.
ANN: Yeah, but there’s more to it.
DENISE: I’m sure. Let’s get there.
ANN: There’s something else I’m wanting. I feel like I’m…
MELISSA: Because everything is interconnected, and one thing that we’re putting our attention on that isn’t beneficial to us will affect everything. Right?
ELIAS: That’s correct. And that could come from something you are making important.
MELISSA: Right.
ELIAS: And in that, THAT is what is significant, what you’re MAKING important.
ANN: I just got that. I just got that. Because I was thinking, “What’s important? What’s important?” but no, it’s like I’m making this important; that’s not important.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: I’m making THIS important that’s not important.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: So now, not to pay attention to what isn’t important but to pay attention to what I’m making important that’s not important.
ELIAS: Yes.
DENISE: Yes!
ELIAS: And that happens in every moment.
ANN: Yeah, every moment.
ELIAS: And therefore, what bothers you?
ANN: And then making… oh my god. This is huge.
ELIAS: What did you express to myself yesterday? Something that bothered you that someone else did.
ANN: I know, and I made that important.
ELIAS: I know that you know. And what I’m saying to you is, this is an example—
ANN: Oh, I made that important.
ELIAS: It bothers you because you’re making it important.
ANN: Okay.
ELIAS: What I would say is, it’s a matter of paying attention throughout your day, every day, to everything that you’re doing, and seeing how you’re responding to whatever is happening in your day, and then picking out those pieces that bother you and noticing in the moment that you’re being bothered by something and stopping it, because you’re making it important, and then asking yourself, “Why is this important? Why am I making this important? What am I doing?”
In that, there are so many expressions that happen in your day that may be bothersome to you that are flashes, in a manner of speaking. They happen very quickly. And in that, they can happen very quickly, and you can keep maintaining them and be bothered. Even though you move in and out of it, it continues. Such as something bothers you, you express to yourself that you’re letting it go, and then the next day you bring it up again with someone else. You’re not letting it go, and you’re still making it important.
And in that, WHY are you making it important? Something is happening that you’re making things important that aren’t important. But—you’re making them important for a reason. Something is happening. You are experiencing something, and that’s why you’re making it important. You’re reacting to something, and you are experiencing something that you’re simply paying attention to the reaction, not why.
MELISSA: Like for instance… We can talk about it more in my own session, but I realized recently that my mom’s coughing and hacking, especially when she’s theatrical about it, I’ve gotten a lot better about not reacting, but I do react sometimes. And I realize, when she does it and I do react, I think this is just showing me that I’m not living my life as nicely as I think. I think I have this beautiful life and I live in this nice home, but I’m like, “No, this is showing me I don’t have as much power as I think I do.” Yeah.
ELIAS: Yes!
MELISSA: Yeah.
ELIAS: But that’s not true.
ANN: So she’s making—
ELIAS: But that’s an association that you make. It’s not true, but you can make that important and then you can believe that.
MELISSA: Yes.
ELIAS: Which isn’t necessarily true. And in that, it’s a matter of stopping and actually looking at the reaction. Does it make you happy?
MELISSA: No.
ELIAS: Does it make you comfortable?
MELISSA: No.
ELIAS: Does it empower you?
MELISSA: No.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
ELIAS: Then why are you making it important? THAT is the point. If you don’t like it, if it isn’t empowering you, if it isn’t making you happy, then why are you making it important?
ANN: Because she believes something about herself, and that brings it up. Same thing with me and the other thing. I believe something—
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: So it’s you have to, um…
ELIAS: Just as with the other expression, you were expecting someone else to be providing something for you.
ANN: Right, that I could do it on my own.
ELIAS: But in that, then you create an expectation of obligation: the other individual has an obligation to provide a particular expression.
ANN: I know that. Yeah. Yeah.
ELIAS: You DO know these things, but you don’t think about them and that’s how you create these reactions, and that’s how you move in these directions that you’re disempowering yourselves, and that you’re making something that disempowers you important. THAT’S the significance.
ANN: This seems like a bigger thing, so maybe it’ll help me understand it. Like, I think a clean planet is important. And you told me this before, like I was creating the whole frickin’ Covid thing because I put that energy out—like when people are like littering or whatever, I have that energy. So I’m making that important, but clean air and clean water IS important to me. So how do I not make that important?
ELIAS: It’s not that—and once again: black and white.
ANN: I know, but—
ELIAS: It’s not that you don’t have to make that important; it’s about looking at it and what are the parts or what are the pieces that are disempowering to you, what are the pieces that are bothersome to you, and making THOSE pieces less important.
ANN: So I focus on what feels empowering and make that important to me.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: All right. I think that’s—
ELIAS: And in that, many times you will discover that the reason that you’re bothered is because you have expectations of other people.
ANN: Yeah, I know. Yeah.
ELIAS: That they should behave in a particular manner: they should do this, they should do that, they should NOT do this or that. Or, it may not even be as obvious as they should or shouldn’t but that they’re not doing what you do.
ANN: I know that, and it’s something that I am aware that I do and have been consciously wanting to do less of it. So I get that part.
MELISSA: I have a question before we go. Are we all integrating more of our essences into our focus?
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: Okay.
ANN: Well, I don’t understand that question that’s been coming up, because I thought we’re already all my essence anyway.
ELIAS: You are. But that doesn’t mean that you actually know that objectively.
ANN: But we are knowing it more and more objectively?
ELIAS: Yes, because you are becoming more self-aware.
ANN: Because we’re shifting.
ELIAS: Yes.
ANN: Oh, okay. So becoming more self-aware is how we do that.
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: I thought for me it was like clearing out that energy from my back that was like the last big pocket, and then I felt this rush of my essence once through me. And I just started noticing “Oh! I’m more aware of myself in a broader way.” But that was just—
ELIAS: It is more self-awareness.
MELISSA: Yeah.
ELIAS: Each individual will experience that differently.
MELISSA: But did the clearing of energy help with that?
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: Okay. Directly?
ELIAS: Yes.
MELISSA: Okay.
DENISE: Saige wanted me to ask about using sound, such as chimes or bells, as a focus of attention for magic and/or alchemy. Is it simply a matter of distracting from the impossible, or is there more to it than that? And do you have any advice as to what would be most efficient?
ELIAS: Bells or chimes as… ?
ANN: Focus of attention for magic and/or alchemy.
DENISE: Where you said sound has to be part of a spell, like words, sub-words in a spell.
ELIAS: Correct. Therefore, yes, you can use that, yes. You can use whatever you choose in relation to sound. But, as I expressed to Turell, it doesn’t have to be an outside sound. It doesn’t have to be a thing. You can create your own sounds, but it can be any type of sound that you choose to use.
MELISSA: Oh, it’s not like saying the spell in an almost musical way?
ELIAS: You can, but that’s not necessarily… No.
MELISSA: Okay.
ELIAS: It’s more a sound, not… Therefore, perhaps a tone of voice, but not necessarily musical – although you could move in that direction, if you are so choosing.
And as to the rest, that would be simply a matter of transformation: focusing on the transformation of anything, and focusing on the transformation in a capacity that allows you to, in a manner of speaking, delineate whatever it is that you’re focusing on; therefore, make it less solid.
MELISSA: Ah!
ELIAS: The less solid it is, the more you can transform it.
MELISSA: Hm. Thank you, Elias.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
ANN: Thank you.
ELIAS: I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and more of your surprises. (All laugh)
Very well, my friends. In tremendous, tremendous, tremendous love to each of you and great affection, as always, au revoir.
GROUP: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 1 hour 6 minutes)
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