Focus Connections, Being Complacent, Value Fulfillment
Topics:
“The Three Components to Health and Well-Being”
“Pay Attention to Your Body”
“Value Fulfillment and Death”
“Not Attempting to Convert Others”
“Focus Impressions and Dream Interactions”
Friday, October 8, 2021
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Ben (Sumarian)
“This is the reason that it is very important to be paying attention to yourself, and in paying attention to be moving in directions consistently of what interests you and what you enjoy and to be busy, to be paying attention to what you consume, to be paying attention to how you move and being interactive. These are the three components that lead you in a direction of health and well-being.”
ELIAS: Good afternoon!
BEN: Oh, hello, Elias.
ELIAS: And how shall we begin, my friend?
BEN: I'm going to begin with a few curiosities that I have, and then maybe some more substantial topics. Something that I've been carrying for years: I always noticed that there was a strong similarity between Jane Roberts that channeled Seth and singer Karen Carpenter. Both of them had rather tragic endings physically, and there's just something too strong to ignore. I've always known that, but I really don't know what the connection is.
ELIAS: Counterpart.
BEN: Counterparts. So it's not focuses of the same essence.
ELIAS: No. But they are counterparts.
BEN: And would that influence the choice of body affectingness with Karen with the anorexia and with Jane with all the physical joints and everything?
ELIAS: Yes!
BEN: It does. Because they disengaged about a year apart, but I don't think that's really relevant.
ELIAS: I would say that that also was associated with the counterpart action.
BEN: Oh, so that's an ongoing, almost like a collaboration of sharing experiences and even worldview maybe at times part of it.
ELIAS: Yes!
ELIAS: Wow. Ok, so at least I got that. I knew there was something there, but it's nice to know.
I had a few impressions this week when I was staring at this poster that's hanging up here that actually has two Japanese words that say Mushin, which is an empty mind, and my mind was quite empty as I was staring at that poster – it's funny. And I got a few impressions. I got an impression of somebody working in a restaurant in Florence, Italy. The restaurant is called Alfredo, and the individual may be a chef there. And I got the name of Ignacio, and I was wondering if that could be another concurrent focus of mine.
ELIAS: Correct!
BEN: What, all the elements I said are correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
BEN: Oh. Wow! (Laughs) Ok, so I've identified three concurrent focuses, and I think I would have now four at this time, or five?
ELIAS: Five.
BEN: And the interesting thing is that I haven't identified any female focus. Slightly after I got that Ignacio impression I got this name of Patricia O'Keefe, and I looked her up on the internet and I didn't really find any connection except with one individual that looked a bit like me. And she's the president of a hospital in Morristown in the U.S. Am I way off, or is that close?
ELIAS: That would be observing and also another expression of counterpart.
BEN: She's observing me, or I'm observing her?
ELIAS: You observing her.
BEN: Huh. I read a little bit of her biography, and I was really impressed by who she is and what she does, and I knew that I was resonating with her success. She's quite an individual.
Ok, now two dreams.
ELIAS: And I –
BEN: Yes?
ELIAS: I would be acknowledging of you in how you have drawn that to yourself and that you have given yourself some significant information.
BEN: I assume that we have countless connections like these going on, and for some reason we only tap into some of them in certain moments because I guess it has to do with significances and intensities or importances. I don't know what it is because I don't plan these impressions, right?
ELIAS: Correct, and it may be what you are drawing to yourself at that time.
BEN: Oh, like qualities.
ELIAS: Connections that you are making at that time in relation to different expressions in association with yourself and another individual.
BEN: Ok. And the counterpart action is one way, or it's mutual?
ELIAS: That would be mutual.
BEN: Oh. Cool!
Okay, so a while ago I had a dream very vivid, and I met Cristiano Ronaldo, the footballer, which was really surprising. I even got to chat with him, and I even asked him a personal question. The next day when I checked the answer he gave me, it turned out correct. I was wondering if that was an interaction with that focus during dream state, or was I tapping into general biographical information of this individual?
ELIAS: I would say you were actually interacting with this individual in dream state.
BEN: Because he's another person that I really appreciate, his direction and his determination. I really like him, even though I don't watch soccer at all, but I like who he is.
Another dream with my mother which was highly unusual again: I met my mother in the dream state in this big living room, and she was all excited and very energetic. And then we started dancing, which was really unusual for me. Even in the dream state I was saying to myself, “This is unreal,” but I said what the hell and I danced with her for a while. And I was wondering if there's any significance to that imagery, because it was unusual for me to do an activity that I didn't do when she was alive.
ELIAS: And I would say that that's not unusual, because in dream state you very frequently allow yourself to engage actions that you wouldn't otherwise do. And I would say that dancing is a very intimate expression, sharing a very intimate action with another individual, and that is the significance of why you were engaging that particular action.
BEN: Oh. It was really enjoyable and quite memorable. I understand the intimacy, because it's something that I don't do in this focus; I really don't dance unless I'm on my own. Dancing with another person is really special.
ELIAS: I agree.
BEN: Since we mentioned my mother, I assume she's still creating objective imagery and that would still be going on for some time, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
BEN: Now, what happened with…? The yucca plant that we mentioned that was connected to her energy is not really showing signs that he's pleased to be here in this house, and I started thinking of putting him outside or in my parents’ garden because something is not working there. He was doing good for a while, and then he's showing signs that he doesn't like it here. Can you give me a hint?
ELIAS: What I would say is, I would congratulate you in how you are paying attention and that you are not only noticing but that you are intuitively connecting with the plant. I would say congratulations, and I would agree with you.
BEN: All right, that's what I thought. I have this sentimental connection, because for me it's a living being and I just can't chuck it out somewhere. I have to put it somewhere where it'll be taken care of, and the only place I can think of is in my father's garden. He has plenty of room. Ok, so that's great to hear that validation.
Now, two more substantial things that were happening this week: I have occasionally elevated blood sugar levels which are not extreme. Sometimes they're quite extreme, and it causes me to wake up and to reassess my attention what I'm eating, my physical activity. And sometimes I look back and I notice that in the previous couple of months I've been complacent in what I do and what I eat. I don't pay attention, I don't really care, I eat sweets, I eat ice cream, and then this reoccurs again. This time the elevated blood sugar was rather minor, and I was wondering if this is just practicing paying attention to when I become complacent or bored in general and then prompting my body to ask for foods that he doesn't really need.
ELIAS: I agree. And I would also say to you, especially in these states of being complacent or bored, when you are expressing in those states of being, you automatically naturally will express in a direction to generate some type of stimulation. Your body automatically does that, and therefore many times it will express in a direction of food.
BEN: So that's similar to what you discussed about diabetes, about sedentary people and they create promptings from their body for sugary things to compensate for that lack of movement.
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
BEN: So, one of the things I asked myself...
ELIAS: What I would also say to you is that this isn't the only direction that the body will prompt an individual with. And in that, sometimes it will move in a direction of becoming very restless, and then that will motivate the individual to be engaging certain activities that also are not necessarily beneficial. This is the reason that it is very important to be paying attention to yourself, and in paying attention to be moving in directions consistently of what interests you and what you enjoy and to be busy, to be paying attention to what you consume, to be paying attention to how you move and being interactive. These are the three components that lead you in a direction of health and well-being.
BEN: And the tricky part about this, and about this Shift in general, is that these things have to be done constantly. It's not a situation where I do it and then it's on automatic pilot and then I go to sleep – that doesn't work.
ELIAS: Correct.
BEN: Hmm. When I'm doing these things and following my direction, it's rather easy. It's just moments where I'm sort of running temporarily out of ideas or just a little bit bored with what I'm doing like at work, or it could be anything else. But you know, what I didn't understand is why would I prompt the body – which is an expression of me, it's not a separate thing – why am I prompting it to input things that are damaging to it?
ELIAS: Because you're not paying attention and you are simply moving in automatic directions. There are many, many, many actions that people do that are not beneficial and that are not healthy and that are actually damaging to yourselves. But you do them, and most of the reason that you do them is because you're not paying attention.
BEN: Oh. Okay, so for example two years ago before the spike that was a really extreme spike in blood sugar, I found myself buying buckets of Ben and Jerry's ice cream, and for some reason I said, “Well, you deserve it once in a while since you never eat ice cream.” And I did that for about a month or two. And then looking back after I scared myself I said, “What the hell were you thinking?” And I was doing that with awareness but not paying attention to what I'm doing.
ELIAS: I understand. And when you ARE paying attention, then you realize what you're doing and you see that you aren't necessarily being beneficial to yourself.
BEN: So being aware that I'm consuming, for example, ice cream is not like paying attention to my motivation and to all the other factors – that's what I hear.
ELIAS: Yes.
BEN: Oh. That's a big difference.
ELIAS: I agree. But it's also a matter of paying attention and being responsive, because sometimes people do stop and pay attention, and they choose to continue doing what they're doing anyway.
BEN: Yeah, like an alcoholic.
ELIAS: Yes!
BEN: Because there's many more factors involved than just is this good for me or not; there's social factors, personal issues.
ELIAS: Correct.
BEN: When you spoke a while ago about water foods with an individual [1], what resonated with me out of that list that you discussed was watermelon and grapes, which I like a lot. And this summer I ate them throughout the three months of summer, and I was wondering if these fruits, which have sugar in them, are actually detrimental for me [or] if I would rather be better off staying away from them.
ELIAS: No, actually. I would say that these are actually food sources that you can consume considerable amounts of and it wouldn't be detrimental. And in that, I would say that it's a matter of recognizing that it is simply a matter of balancing. You can consume a lot, but pay attention to your body. If you are having some type of adverse affectingness with your body consciousness, you will know it.
BEN: I know that the way I discovered these spikes in glucose is that I started waking up to urinate in the middle of the night, which I never do. And because I noticed that, that's how I caught these two incidents.
ELIAS: That is significant. That is what I am expressing, is paying attention to your body. You know your body.
BEN: Right.
ELIAS: Paying attention to your body and recognizing when your body is generating some action that is different, and is different in a capacity that is not necessarily comfortable or a benefit to you.
BEN: So, it could be very subtle things that we're not used to paying attention to. For example, sometimes I can feel heat. I started noticing that in certain situations there's heat which is not a normal type of heat, which means either I ate too much or I ate too much of this type of food. That's an example, right?
ELIAS: Yes!
BEN: Because most people, when they eat they don't feel anything unusual. They may feel stuffed, which is probably another indicator that you went way overboard, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
BEN: That's an easy one.
All right. Is there an influence of genetic factors because my mom had some of these symptoms, and her sister and her mom? I'm not sure how much I believe in genetics. I know there's an influence, but I don't think this is part of the equation, is it?
ELIAS: I would say that there is a slight influence, yes. It isn't as strong as other people in your family may have expressed, but there is a slight influence in that, yes.
BEN: Okay. Okay, so there is a lot to pay attention to. It's nice. It's a really curious thing. Great.
One other thing that I've been wanting to talk to you about for quite some time is about the abused generations, which I am the second generation of those. My parents are the first ones. They were born into the war, they emigrated to Israel. They had their hard times. But if I was to say one thing that caused extensive trauma in my family, for all of us, it was not the war; it was the fact that my father's single brother, at age 23, being a military pilot, takes off on his plane and crashes and dies. And that's had a very strong impact on my father and of course on my mother and on all of us. And I always wondered, What would motivate a 23-year-old handsome young man to just leave?
ELIAS: I would say that that is an individual [audio cut off], and I would also say that it's not unusual for people to question those types of choices, because they might not be a choice YOU would make. But the factor that YOU wouldn't make that choice is not actually relevant, and I would say that it's a matter of when the individual chose to disengage, their value fulfillment was complete.
BEN: Regardless of how old they are and what they've experienced.
ELIAS: Correct.
I would say that this is a difficult subject for many, if not most, people, because an individual might be completing their value fulfillment at the age of 2 years of age, or as an infant.
BEN: Hmm.
ELIAS: Age doesn't necessarily have much to do with value fulfillment.
BEN: Yeah, that's the bottom line. The thing is, the impact it had on my family is quite strong, on my father especially.
ELIAS: And that has to do with the piece in relation to death and relationships. And in that, I would say that when people begin to understand that death is not actually a permanent separation, and when they understand that death is simply moving from one area to another, and that they aren't disconnected from each other, then they would view death differently. But also when they understand that an individual’s [audio cut off] is expressed at the time of their death and that age has no bearing on value fulfillment.
BEN: Yeah. I can imagine why it was difficult for him, because he actually strongly believes that death is the end. He always did.
ELIAS: Which then that creates a very strong influence.
BEN: Hmm.
ELIAS: And in that, it is understandable that that would ripple out in your family, because if that's what he believes, then he's going to teach that to his children.
BEN: Yeah, and it did influence his choices in the number of kids he had so this situation wouldn't reoccur. It had a lot of effects.
Something personal about trauma: If I had to intuitively say, I don't remember or I don't think I had any extreme traumatic experience growing up like being molested or being abandoned or being raped or anything like that. I had my own issues with exposure, but other than that, I don't sense that I have any other. Is that accurate?
ELIAS: I agree.
BEN: Okay. There's a lot of issues between me and my father, but I guess it's just... it's just differences in perception, a lot of them.
ELIAS: I agree.
BEN: And I don't think they're going to be resolved. And recently I've sort of let go and stopped trying to convert him, because it just won't work, just like he can't convert.
ELIAS: Congratulations! I would definitely express congratulations, because you are correct, it won't work.
BEN: Even though...
ELIAS: Is much more beneficial to both of you to simply accept him as he is and for who he is, and to generate whatever type of relationship you choose and you want to have with him, and not to attempt to convince him of anything.
BEN: (Laughs) Which I always do. I never understood why you mentioned once that Sumaris are so keen on truths and they believe that their truths are absolute. Where does that come from, where I think that whatever I know is right, as a Sumari?
ELIAS: And I would say that that's also something that is a matter of recognizing, as you grow and as you become more self-aware, that that may be an expression of exploration in relation to that family, but that doesn't mean that it is correct. (Ben laughs) They're all elements of exploring; they're all expressions of different avenues to explore in your physical reality.
BEN: You know, last Saturday I sat in Tel Aviv, and it was a really unusual day for me because all my judgments totally vanished, and all I did was wander around the city for almost the entire day, and I was totally ecstatic. It was just unbelievable. There was no judgment against anybody; even with things that I didn't agree, I didn't really care. And so it allowed me to see all the beauty in everything, in other people and in nature. It was really unusual.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
ELIAS: Congratulations! I would definitely be encouraging you to draw on that experience and to allow yourself to move in that direction more often.
BEN: Yeah, I think so too. I said it to myself. There was even a song playing that day when I was at the restaurant and it was saying "This day will change your life." And I was laughing and saying, “Yeah, it could change my life if I continue like this.”
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would agree.
BEN: Great.
Okay, Elias, the buzzer is in the background, so we should probably end this conversation, which has been, as always, very pleasant and interesting.
ELIAS: Excellent! I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting, my friend, and I express tremendous love and encouragement to you. Remember that experience!
BEN: I will.
ELIAS: (Laughs) Until our next meeting, in tremendous friendship, as always, au revoir.
BEN: Bye-bye.
[1] Session 202106051
(Elias departs after 31 minutes)
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