Thursday, July 15, 2021 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jean (Lyla)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

JEAN: Good afternoon, Elias.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And how shall we begin?

JEAN: Oh Elias, I have pages of notes formed, and it’s just like stuff all over the place and it just seems like it’s a big congealed mess now, but I’m excited. The first half of the session I’d like to talk about me (laughs), and then the second half of the session, the last thirty minutes, if we could do a bit further on regeneration?

ELIAS: Very well.

JEAN: And just to calm down a little bit, I had a fun question to begin with. I wanted to know if my essence had a theme, so to speak. And the reason I ask is because there’s a lot of focuses in this dimension, and when I asked you something similar a few years ago, I think you said my essence Lyla was very diversified. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN: So, is there a general theme?

ELIAS: And your impression?

JEAN: You know, what I want to say is discovery or looking into the depths of things, or something along that line. Or maybe beauty, aesthetics?

ELIAS: I would say that that is what YOU are generating in this focus, or part of it, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that that would be the theme of what you have explored in this dimension in relation to your essence. (Pause)

JEAN: I need help, Elias.

ELIAS: (Laughs) I would say yes, there is a general theme, and that that general theme is associated with exploring details.

JEAN: Ah! Okay. Exploring details. And that definitely fits with myself.

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN: Yes. Yes. Okay. And Elias, I’m kind of in one of those states to where I’ve probably experienced comfort and satisfaction at this point more than I have in a very, very long time in my life, in the true definition of it. And... you know there’s a “but” coming up. (Elias laughs) But I still, at night, I just have a lot… Well, let me back up and say I wake up with new perceptions, and I’m hyperaware of irritations or where my thought patterns go, and I’m like whoa, let’s examine this. Why do I feel this way towards this person or this situation and is this actually true? And I’ll go to bed, Elias, and I’ll have just these tumultuous dreams, but then I always seem to wake up and maybe a day or two later I have these aha moments, to where everything seems to… I just have a deep understanding. And in one sense I think I’m still beating myself up a little bit that I haven’t achieved enough soon enough, but then on the other hand I’m like, “But I’m glad I didn’t get back on the wheel of achievement, not knowing what’s been affecting my perceptions in my life.” Does that make sense?

ELIAS: (Pause) I would ask you what direction you’re moving in with this, in relation to the point.

JEAN: I guess the point is… I guess it all comes down to what I’m doing right now: Is it enough?

Let me back up. I think one of the big things, I just have these dreams at night where I dreamt that my old Mercedes, I opened the hood and smoke was coming out and I was like, “Oh my god, I’ve got to fix it again.” And then I started seeing sparks, fire sparks, and then I backed away and I said, “You know what? I don’t want to fix this anymore, just let it burn,” and then it just goes up in flames. And then I have dreams where someone’s threatening me, and I pick up a gun. And I know it doesn’t have bullets in it, but I take shots at him anyway. And they don’t come at me, but I’m still frightened. I’ll have dreams of being chased and I do get away, but barely. And then always in the dreams I’m dealing with sick or injured animals, and I’m caught between that pull of wanting to go fix them, but in this case I always back away and say, “No, I’ve got to focus on myself.” So, I don’t know what the dreams are trying to tell me. I mean, with the animals, are they trying to tell me spend less time on the books and more time with Elias on the next step in healing? Or is this still about fixing?

ELIAS: I would say neither.

JEAN: Oh.

ELIAS: I would say that actually, ALL of these dream imageries are actually associated with tension.

JEAN: Okay.

ELIAS: What you generate in imagery, you’re translating.

JEAN: Okay.

ELIAS: Remember, that’s what dreams do.

JEAN: Yes.

ELIAS: That they’re translating what you’re doing subjectively. And in that, what you’re doing is translating all this anxiety, this tension in your body and all of these expressions of what you are perceiving that you’re either not doing enough of or you’re doing wrong. And it translates also in frustration, in fear, in running away, in anger, in any of these types of expressions of imagery that is actually more common than you think.

And I would say to you that in this, your objective awareness is creating themes. It’s creating scenarios. It’s creating imagery in relation to what your subjective is doing, and for the most part, what your subjective is doing is directing your body consciousness. And therefore, it’s directing energy in relation to anxiety, physical manifestations, tension, pressure, and this is how it is translated in imagery. And in that imagery, it has to do with different parts of yourself, your life, your actions that are associated with what you perceive you are angry at, you’re falling short with, you’re not doing enough of, you are expecting, you’re expressing that either you’re not doing enough of or it’s not good enough. (Pause)

JEAN: Oh my gosh. And you know, I feel like I address to so much of that, and it’s still there.

ELIAS: Let me say to you, my friend, people say this very frequently: “I think and I feel that I’m addressing to this and this and this, or so much of this and this, and it’s still there;” or “I’m still dealing with this,” or “I’m still presenting this to myself.” (Pause) And in that, this is a very telling statement, because what it is associated with is that you will reach an end. But a lot of what you are engaging in that movement has to do with memory, and you NEVER reach an end with memory, because you don’t eliminate any of it.

Therefore, in that, every day that you exist, because you have memory you have a potential to be touching memories.

Now; every day objectively you are making choices, which is the part that you are expressing about, “I have addressed so much of this,” or “I deal with this,” or “I express this every day,” “I am aware of this every day.” And you are! And objectively, that is the part that you are expressing in relation to behaviors and choices and that you are directing. That doesn’t mean that all of your memories simply disappear, and it doesn’t mean that you aren’t making associations every day with memories, or that associations that you have with certain memories aren’t being touched and therefore generating some energy of tension or anxiety or pressure that you may not be aware of—because you ARE objectively paying attention to what choices you are making and because you ARE objectively paying attention to how you are directing yourself.

And in that, your subjective awareness is also doing a considerable amount of work, which is what I have expressed to you and to many other people many times, that actually when you are addressing to something, your subjective awareness does most of the work.

In that, when you engage dreams, when you recall that dream imagery, it isn’t surprising that you would have dream imagery that may be disturbing or that may be nightmarish or that may be confusing to you or concerning to you, because your subjective awareness IS doing most of the work, and your objective awareness is translating that. And therefore, it’s translating that into imagery that the subjective awareness is addressing to for the most part in relation to your body, because your body is what is, in your terms, internalizing everything. This is where all of your neurological and circulatory and digestive systems all house, and this is where you generate responses to all of these expressions.

Therefore, what I would say to you is, first of all, the factor that you may be having disturbing dreams is one, an indicator that you are objectively translating the actions that your subjective awareness is addressing to. In addition to that, it is a matter of recognizing that when you awaken with uncomfortable feelings, or if you have uncomfortable feelings at different points during the day, this is the objective part in which then you express to yourself making different choices. You recognize what you are uncomfortable with, and then you address that objectively by generating a different choice.

JEAN: Okay, I’m going to say the things that I think I’m really uncomfortable with is still a large part where I live. And you know, it looks like everything’s… You were right: everything. We cooperated with the landlady, and financially it looks like everything is working out, but I’m still uncomfortable being here. And then what I think I add to it is I’m not really understanding what you’re saying about my husband and I going and finding a community that we can “build upon” and blah-blah-blah—I don’t mean blah-blah-blah negative, to be dismissive. (Pause) Are you there, Elias?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN: And so I don’t know how to go about that, and I’m not really understanding my next steps towards that. And I keep going, “But I don’t have enough money to buy a place unless it’s some real dump somewhere out in the middle of nowhere.” You know where my mind goes. And can I even get to the life that I really want to have? And then I’m like, “I don’t even KNOW what I want anymore, Elias,” because what I used to think I want, what I dreamed of for so long, I look at and go, “I don’t necessarily know if I want the big farm with all the responsibility.” You know? “And what do I DARE dream? And what Elias is saying, oh my god, it seems like it’s going to be a lot of work!” I think that’s where the anxiety comes. And I’m not bitching; I’m just being honest.

ELIAS: I understand.

JEAN: Yeah.

ELIAS: But I would say that this is a significant reason why I have been expressing to you about building, and beginning small. You keep moving in this direction repeatedly of what you think you want, and you keep expressing the justification of that in relation to this identification of having an aristocratic personality—and you keep missing the point! An aristocratic personality isn’t the definition of rich and famous. An aristocratic personality is not synonymous with money and things. It doesn’t mean you have this enormous house and this tremendously expensive car and tremendously expensive clothing. It is a mindset. It is a personality expression. Your personality is not expressed through things and money; your personality is expressed in behavior. That doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t, or can’t, want expensive things. That doesn’t mean that it’s bad and that you shouldn’t move in the direction of having expensive things, but you’ve already moved in that direction, you’ve already expressed that in your life and observed where it led you.

Now, I’m not saying to you—and I never have—that you can’t or you shouldn’t want those things again; but what I am saying to you is how you create them should be different. That in this, now it is a matter of being more self-aware and therefore, moving in more intentional directions. And what that means is moving in directions that are to your greatest benefit first and foremost. And yes, you can have the things in life that you want, BUT—move in that direction intentionally and do it in steps. And therefore, do it in a manner that doesn’t overwhelm you, that isn’t unrealistic, that isn’t so far out of your reach that you are constantly setting yourself in a direction for failure!

This is where a lot of your tension and anxiety comes from. This is the part that you haven’t quite connected with yet, and the reason I continue to reiterate to you to be looking in directions to make your own community, to look in directions in which you are beginning in a capacity that is enough for now. That doesn’t mean it is enough forever—if it were, you would never grow—but in this to express connecting, which we have discussed also many times, and in that, moving in directions in which you are creating the connections, the foundations now; and that those connections don’t have to be the end-all, be-all roadmap, but that they are beginnings, that they are steps, and that you are taking those steps to move in directions that you want.

Now; you have expressed to myself several times—actually, I will amend that: MANY times (Jean laughs)—about moving, and about where you will move to, and about you can’t afford to move to a home that would be acceptable to you. That is, I will say, absolutely incorrect, and I rarely use that word. I almost never express ANYTHING being absolute, but this is absolutely incorrect. (Pause)

You don’t have to have a tremendous amount of money to move in a direction of a home that would be enough for now for you, for your animals, for your partner, and in a community that you can be establishing yourself in that you can move to and begin to establish yourself as a part of a community, to begin to build the community—not moving into one that’s already established that you have to fit into (pause), and not moving in the direction of a house that is beyond what you can engage presently. You have enough now to be engaging in a home that is elegant, and that is acceptable, and that you can enjoy and appreciate—you have enough to do that now. (Pause)

JEAN: Yeah. I guess now it’s a matter of finding it, of timing? (Pause)

ELIAS: And?

JEAN: Is there anything you want to add to that? (Pause)

ELIAS: I would simply express an encouragement to you, my friend, to be readjusting your thinking.

JEAN: I’m sorry, readjusting what?

ELIAS: Thinking.

JEAN: Okay.

ELIAS: What you are looking for. And in that, reminding yourself that this is a process, and that in the process you’re at the beginning of the process. (Pause)

If you want to build something—think about this realistically from an actual, physical standpoint: If you want to build something, it doesn’t simply appear in a moment, does it?

JEAN: No.

ELIAS: It requires a process of building, and that takes time. It doesn’t simply materialize from nowhere. In this, this is the situation physically and metaphorically. Therefore, in this, you don’t simply materialize building something with yourself in a moment, and you don’t build something in relation to physical manifestations in a moment either. Building in itself is a process. (Pause)

Therefore, in that, what I would say to you is—as usual—I am tremendously encouraging of you and expressing to you to not ignore but to not pay attention to your landlady, or what you are uncomfortable with in your present home. Make that unimportant; make everything else MORE important. Make what you are accomplishing important, and make this individual and her bothersomeness unimportant. Stop giving her power. And in that, I would say that it genuinely is a matter of not paying attention to her. (Pause)

JEAN: Elias, I have another question, and maybe we’ll go into some regeneration, if that’s acceptable. You told me recently that I have been to other areas where I have resonated better. Correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN: And I’m going to say, would they have been along a coastline?

ELIAS: Some.

JEAN: Some?

ELIAS: Not all, but yes, some.

JEAN: Okay. So, where would places…? I mean, I could say at one time I resonated with Kentucky very well but kind of outgrew that. But a couple of places I remembered were… I mean, I’ve just been having visions in my mind of coastal areas, but not like I grew up in like the beachy types where people go and swim and lay out, but more the Maine coast, like in Mendocino, California, like some of the coastal regions I saw in South Africa. And these areas keep coming up in my mind—almost like a tempestuous type of atmosphere but dynamic.

ELIAS: I very much understand, and I would very much agree.

JEAN: Would I resonate well in a place like that?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN: And you know, when I’ve asked you of places to resonate with, one area you have NOT said but that keeps coming up in my mind is coastal Maine.

ELIAS: I would say yes. And in that, I would say that your husband would also.

JEAN: Coastal Maine. (Pause) That has just been coming up over and over and over again.

ELIAS: And what I would say to you, my friend, is this is an example of intuition. What does intuition do?

JEAN: It’s a question answerer.

ELIAS: Correct! It answers questions, and this is an example of intuition. (Pause)

JEAN: So we could very well find the type of community you’re speaking of along coastal Maine somewhere?

ELIAS: Yes, you could. I would say that you could begin—and not… Understand: not be (pause) expressed as “designated to” this place; not at all. I am merely expressing that you could BEGIN exploring perhaps Portland.

JEAN: We’ve been thinking about Portland.

ELIAS: The reason that I would express that is, that is how you can familiarize yourself. Now, this is not the type of coastal area that you are envisioning, but I would say that this is a beginning point that could be encouraging to both of you. It is, in a manner of speaking, a young and upcoming, upstarting area. (Pause)

JEAN: Yeah. All right, Elias. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

JEAN: (Laughs) Okay. I got it. And you know, I listened without getting mad.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Congratulations.

JEAN: You know, I felt the little twinges, and I’m going, “Whoa! Whoa! That’s just a signal where you’re going.”

Okay. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t going backwards with all of these dreams.

ELIAS: No!

JEAN: Okay. It’s the subjective working everything out.

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN: Because it seems like the more I make intentional choices, the more the dreams amp up.

ELIAS: Which is understandable. Because in that, I would say it emphasizes what you may be uncomfortable with, what you may be afraid of, what may irritate you. All of that is then exposed the more you are actually objectively addressing.

JEAN: Okay. That makes sense.

ELIAS: It becomes more and more difficult to hide when you are actually addressing to many of these subjects and issues. It becomes more and more difficult to move in directions in which you can ignore.

JEAN: I know. I’m finding that. That shit comes up! (Elias laughs) Whatever… you know, the traumas and everything, it comes up. (Pause) Yeah.

Well, Elias, can we move into at least beginning some of the regeneration topic, which we have a session that was group funded, and I guess we’ll do it in steps. And I was going… Linda Camp had a phenomenal session that anyone that hears this should probably listen to. It was 3037. You’ve addressed to many of the questions that I have, but I’d like a little clarification on it.

You were saying that we have the perception that we stop growing at about 20 years of age, so then, because of that perception we have an automatic association that we stop regenerating and that we start DEgenerating. Correct?

ELIAS: Yes. Correct.

JEAN: Which then affects your perception further.

ELIAS: Correct.

JEAN: And you said that then we have an overall perception about the whole concept of growth: growth in terms of function, appearance and size.

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN: And that we do not associate regeneration with growth.

ELIAS: Correct.

JEAN: So, what about growth and size? Let’s just touch upon this aspect, how as we go up in years… I guess it’s the appearance and size, how we don’t associate that with regeneration.

ELIAS: Correct.

JEAN: Because I’m wondering if some of the changes that we see in our bodies as we quote-unquote “age,” is that degeneration or is that truly regeneration?

ELIAS: It depends. It depends. I would say that some of it is degeneration, and some of it IS regeneration.

Now, let me say to you, as we have identified, you have the perception that you stop growing at approximately 20 years of age. But—

JEAN: Your hair grows.

ELIAS: — I would say that many, if not most of you—especially female individuals—will express that their shoe size increases in your 30s, and it may even increase again in your 40s.

JEAN: You bugger! You’re reading my mind, because my shoe size doesn’t fit anymore.

ELIAS: Now, THAT is REgeneration, because you are growing. Because in that, certain aspects of your body consciousness continue to grow. But then you will express that in your 60s and higher that you begin to shrink, that your height is reduced. That would be DEgeneration. Your height actually doesn’t naturally decrease; in fact, your height can continue to increase in very small increments even through your 40s. Therefore, when you are 25 you may be 5 feet 6 inches tall, and when you are 45 you may be 5 feet 6 inches and 1/2. Or, you might be 5 feet 7 inches, because your feet are not the only part of your body that grow.

Now, in that, you are aware of the parts of you that you believe or that you recognize as degenerating: your hearing, your eyesight, all of your senses. It isn’t only your hearing and your eyesight; it’s all of your senses. The older that you are, the duller your senses are. That is entirely incorrect. That is definitely associated with beliefs in relation to degeneration, but it isn’t natural. Actually, the more self-aware you become—or, if you are thinking about it in a different direction, the more spiritual you become (both chuckle)—you actually increase the sharpness of your senses. They become more acute.

Another piece that you attribute to degeneration is your physical brain, that your brain never regenerates, and therefore as you age you lose cognitive factors, you lose recall abilities, you lose attention span. This is not actually natural; and, your physical brain does regenerate. (Pause)

JEAN: So my increase in foot size is regeneration?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN: Ha! I mean like the last four pairs of shoes don’t fit, and that’s never happened before. (Elias chuckles) Wow. That’s interesting.

Well, in the few minutes—we have about eight minutes left—let’s just go in the direction of the grey hair. In Nuno’s session you were saying it could be a sign of DEgeneration, but it could also be natural changes associated with REgeneration.

ELIAS: Correct.

JEAN: That’s really interesting, because again with the Camp sisters you had some really interesting discussions with them over the years, and how the hair, actually it’s a hollow tube and color is produced in the scalp and goes down the tube but then the color stops producing, and so that can be a natural process.

ELIAS: Correct.

JEAN: But why would it be a natural process? Why, in someone that is naturally regenerating, would you stop producing color in your hair?

ELIAS: I would say that this is not necessarily something that is what you identify as negative; you simply think of it as negative. Do you think that it is negative that when you are 16 you are at a certain height and when you are 18 you may be two or three inches taller? No, you simply think of that as a change in the direction of your body, your body is changing. And in that, I would say that your body is always changing, and in relation to hair, your body is changing in relation to hair and that it isn’t necessarily associated with age. You simply attribute it as being associated with age. You attribute many things being associated with age. In this, I would say that in relation to the body moving in a direction of stopping generating that fluid that is the pigmentation in hair is simply an action in which it is not performing a particular function any longer because it isn’t necessary, and it actually redirects that energy in a different capacity.

Let me say to you that most individuals that their hair stops producing that pigmentation fluid, their hair grows faster. (Pause)

JEAN: Wow.

ELIAS: And it also may actually be what you think of as healthier. It may be fuller, or it may change and incorporate more curl or more weight. Because it isn’t producing that pigmentation fluid, it redirects the energy in different capacities.

JEAN: And I guess the last question would be, you said that the color had a purpose for a period of time. And what purpose would that be?

ELIAS: Now; what would you think of? Think of nature.

JEAN: Oh, attraction?

ELIAS: That is a significant piece.

JEAN: It has to do with the reproductive years or something?

ELIAS: Correct. That it is a significant piece in relation to the attraction for the purpose of reproduction.

[The timer for the end of the session rings]

JEAN: Wow. Fascinating. So, almost by the hair color stopping, you’re redirecting your energies into a new aspect of your life.

ELIAS: Precisely.

JEAN: And then like, what other—? Go ahead, please.

ELIAS: This is also, I would say, partially the reason—not entirely, but partially—the reason that SOME men don’t actually stop that process of creating that pigmentation in the hair, and that regardless of how old they are, their hair does not lose that color factor.

JEAN: Yes.

ELIAS: These men are generally expressing a fertility factor regardless of their age.

JEAN: Wow. Well, Elias, this is an intriguing place to end, unfortunately, but maybe… We’ll definitely pick up again. Thank you!

ELIAS: You are very welcome. I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting.

JEAN: Me too. Elias, thank you. You really, really helped me today personally.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. And I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting, and more of our discussion in this direction.

JEAN: Excellent. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. Until our next meeting, in tremendous encouragement and exceptional supportiveness as always, au revoir.

JEAN: Au revoir.

(Elias departs after 1 hour 1 minute)

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