How to Effectively Use Elias' Energy
Topics:
“How to Effectively Use Elias’ Energy”
“Beliefs: It’s a Matter of Influences”
“An Agreement with Elias for an Alert”
“Grey Hair”
Sunday, June 13, 2021 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Nuno (Lystell)
ELIAS: Good morning!
NUNO: Good morning.
ELIAS: And how shall we begin?
NUNO: Ah. Hm. Well, I’ll start at the top of my list. I would like to talk a little bit about what I’ve been calling my exercises—and I still am looking for an appropriate name for this. I’ve been trying out the word “transformation,” as in a transformation of the focus. What do you think of that?
ELIAS: I would say that’s an accurate word.
NUNO: Okay. Then I’ll go with that for now, until I find something else.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: Now, in terms of that, for some time now I have been having challenges with that, and maybe it’s not a challenge. I don’t really know what it is, is that I can’t seem to achieve the same level of intensity in the energy as I was able to previously in terms of the sensations that the body consciousness generates, which is my only indicator. So, do you have anything to say on that?
ELIAS: (Pause) What is it that you are dissatisfied with? That you aren’t generating the same sensations? Or are you dissatisfied with something else?
NUNO: I would say it’s I don’t generate the same sensations. I wouldn’t call it a dissatisfaction so much as a concern.
ELIAS: A concern in what capacity?
NUNO: In that I am not progressing.
ELIAS: Ah. And let me ask you, what actually indicates to you that you’re not progressing?
NUNO: Nothing.
ELIAS: Ha! (Laughs) Then I would say that THAT is what is important, is that you don’t actually have something that is indicating to you that you’re not progressing; you simply are assuming that you’re not progressing.
NUNO: Okay. I understand that. Then why is it that the sensations have diminished?
ELIAS: I would say that that generally happens with everything with the body consciousness, that the body consciousness becomes familiar with certain expressions, and therefore, it doesn’t express as much in relation to that sensation. In a manner of speaking, it becomes somewhat desensitized.
NUNO: Okay. I have definitely considered that as being a possibility. So you stating that, is that a general statement, or is this an observation?
ELIAS: Both.
NUNO: Okay. So, I am assuming that you do observe my energy to some extent. Is that correct?
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Okay. Then would you say I am progressing?
ELIAS: Definitely.
NUNO: Okay. Then I will be at ease with that and not concern myself.
ELIAS: Excellent. Excellent.
NUNO: Now, we talked a little bit last time about your energy and my interacting with it, and you described that… I’m trying to remember how you phrased it. It was something about establishing a direction or setting a direction. That isn’t quite what you said, but what I am asking is that this direction then of course is a direction of my choosing, I would think. Generally, my question is this: How do I use your energy most effectively?
ELIAS: Very well. That would depend on what you want to do with it. Therefore, it depends on what direction you are expressing with my energy. Give an example.
NUNO: Okay. Here’s an example. It would be having to do with my transformation.
ELIAS: That’s considerably general.
NUNO: I would’ve thought that’s considerably specific. I mean, you are quite aware of what I am wanting to accomplish here, and it has to do with what you have called reduction of separation, incorporating more of my energy into the focus, and how is that—
ELIAS: Yes, but I would say that… Very well, in that, this is precisely what I am saying is general, that you are naming different expressions that I agree with, that are about your direction and what you are doing. And in that, I would say that it’s a matter of what action, which of those actions are you focused on at any given point that is what you want to be achieving.
NUNO: Okay. I guess my misunderstanding in this is that I thought that those were all equivalent—they were all essentially the same action, just different names for it.
ELIAS: No. They are all very different actions, and in that, such as regeneration is not the same action as incorporating more of an awareness of yourself as essence in physical focus, because one is a state of being and the other is addressing to the body consciousness.
NUNO: Yeah. I didn’t think I mentioned regeneration in that. That was—
ELIAS: I am merely offering as an example.
NUNO: Okay. Because I mean, I do consider regeneration to be a separate subject. What I’m referring to here specifically is incorporating more of my energy into the focus. And I don’t know if that is a separate direction from reducing separation, or is that the same thing? I always thought of it being the same thing.
ELIAS: Well, what I would say to you is ultimately, in the end, in a manner of speaking, it would be the same thing. But getting to that point isn’t necessarily the same thing, because it’s a matter of what you’re focusing on. In this, ultimately the lessening of separation IS part of the insertion of yourself as essence into your experience in physical focus. They are hand in hand, but I would say that the movement in those directions, or the movement into those actions, are not necessarily one and the same—because you ARE physically focused, because separation is such an integral part of your reality. It’s a piece that is involved in everything in your reality. The factor that you incorporate a body is an aspect of separation. Therefore, that in itself is, in a manner of speaking, one subject, and its own direction in the recognition that you are addressing to lessening your association with separation. Are you understanding?
NUNO: Yes. I think so.
In that case, and… In terms of my movement, which I think you’re clear on what I want to accomplish here, what I perhaps lack clarity on is the best way to move forward on that. And clearly I’ve had some misunderstandings on that from what you just said, because I always thought that the separation subject was actually quite integral with that, but now I understand it better.
So, going back to the original question then, which was how can I best use your energy to move me in that direction of incorporating more of my energy into the focus?
ELIAS: (Pause) Not in association with the subject of separation, but simply in incorporating more of your energy as essence into the focus, correct?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: Very well. Then what I would say in relation to that would be, you have methods of recognizing my energy in relation to you. Correct?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: What I would say is, that would be a beginning, is that you can recognize my energy and distinguish it from your energy. Now what I would say to you is, you can use that in two capacities. You can use it as a model, and you can also use it in relation to how to pull your energy into your awareness in your physical focus. Therefore, the first part, as a model, is that you recognize the distinction of my energy from your energy.
Now, what you are actually distinguishing is my energy from your energy as you, the focus. Therefore, what you can do is you can use that as a model in relation to your energy as essence, that you can begin to familiarize yourself with that energy, that aspect of your energy.
Understand that the energy that you express as essence is not separate from you, but it is somewhat different than the energy of simply you as your focus, because it includes the energy of all of your focuses and beyond. Therefore, because it has a quality of all of those other energies, that changes the vibrational quality of that energy, let us say. The energy of you as your focus has one vibrational quality; the energy of you as essence has another vibrational quality that is, let us say, more mutable than the vibrational quality of you as the focus.
Therefore, as essence, this energy is part of that energy, but there are other aspects of that energy that are somewhat different, that you can distinguish that energy from your energy as your focus, as you as the focus.
Now, the difference is that with my energy, incorporating that with you is definitely significantly distinguishable. With your energy as essence, it is a part of you; therefore, it’s blended with you, and therefore it won’t appear to be dramatically differently from what you recognize as your energy, as you the focus. It will seem slightly different, but not tremendously, but just enough that you CAN distinguish it. Are you following thus far?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: Therefore, in that, that would be the first piece, is that you can use your knowledge of your interaction with myself and my energy as a model to begin to discover that subtle difference of your energy as essence and your energy as the focus. And as you move in a direction of generating that awareness of that difference, then you can familiarize yourself with that energy. That would be the first piece.
Then you can move in the direction of the second piece, which would be you can use my energy, in a manner of speaking, as an infuser or a bridge, that you can use my energy as a tool, in a manner of speaking, to pull your energy as essence into your body consciousness. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, you can use my energy as a plug. You can be using it as a type of conduit that you can pull the energy of essence through the conduit, through my energy, and plug it into your body consciousness. Are you understanding?
NUNO: Yes.
ELIAS: Excellent!
NUNO: I do have a question here. On that first part, which was the being able to identify my energy as essence and noticing the different character of it, I believe that I have and do on occasion already experience that. Would you agree with that?
ELIAS: That is excellent. Yes, I would. But what I would say in relation to that is that then this is a matter of incorporating that more as (pause) the norm, so to speak, not on occasion but moving in the direction of being able to then use my energy as that conduit, in a manner of speaking, and pulling that energy of essence that you can recognize through, and inserting it into your body consciousness.
NUNO: And how do I do that?
ELIAS: (Pause) First of all you, in a manner of speaking, visualize my energy. First feel it, then visualize it, and then configure it into a type of conduit. You can configure it into, figuratively, a pipe or a type of funnel, and then what you do is you connect with the feeling of, or the sensation of, your energy as essence, and you pull it towards the funnel. You pull it towards the pipe. Whatever it is, however you configure my energy, you pull your energy as essence towards that until you make a connection.
And then when you make the connection, that for the most part is all you have to do. Because at that point, then I can aid in funneling that energy to your body consciousness. Then in that, all you have to do is receive it. You won’t be receiving my energy; therefore, the sensation will be different, or the awareness, because you might not actually have a physical sensation. You might, initially, but you might not. But you will have an awareness, regardless of whether you have a sensation or not.
NUNO: (Pause) Okay. This sounds like something I can pursue.
ELIAS: I definitely agree. And I would say that if you become confused or if you begin to become confused, think about it in relation to physical focus and other people’s energies: that you don’t always have a sensation, a physical sensation, in relation to other people’s energy, but you know it’s there. Very similar to the experience of being asleep and having someone stand over you, it generally will wake you up. You don’t necessarily actually have a physical sensation that’s waking you up, but you are aware. You know there is a presence, and that’s what wakes you up.
Therefore, if you become at any point confused, or you are beginning to be confused because you don’t necessarily feel something or you aren’t experiencing an actual sensation, remind yourself: you don’t have to have an actual sensation, and that doesn’t mean that you aren’t aware of the presence of another energy.
NUNO: Okay. And in that, in the other energy you mean my own, or yours?
ELIAS: Your own.
NUNO: Right. Okay.
ELIAS: That it is slightly different from the energy that you express as you as the focus.
NUNO: Okay. I will work with that then.
ELIAS: Excellent.
NUNO: Now, a similar question but the subject being regeneration: How do I most effectively use your energy to achieve greater regeneration?
ELIAS: Very well. I would say that that would also be a matter of manipulating energy, and in that it would be manipulating my energy in a slightly different capacity. Therefore, my suggestion would be to take or use my energy in a capacity, or in a fashion, in which you would use it somehow in relation to a type of alarm or a reminder, meaning that you would configure my energy with you in some capacity, choosing some type of a sensation—which is the most effective—to alert you whenever you are moving in an expression or in a direction that is contrary to regeneration--anything that has to do with aging, anything that has to do with ANY type of aging, or anything that has to do with degenerating, which moves in the direction of what we were discussing in our previous conversation about saving money. [1]
This very frequently, and very strongly, is a piece that is associated with aging, that you save money for your retirement, you save money for when you are older. Why? Because you are less able or capable of generating money. As you get older you degenerate, and therefore your abilities degenerate, and therefore your ability to do or to produce or to create degenerates. Therefore, also your ability to be generating money degenerates and becomes less.
NUNO: Mm-hm. I would have to say that in my particular case, that is not a belief I hold.
ELIAS: First of all, let me express to you, it may be a belief you disagree with. There is no such thing as having a belief or not having a belief. You exist in this particular physical reality, and in this particular physical reality you have beliefs. You have belief systems. You have ALL of the belief systems. You have ALL of the beliefs. ALL of you do.
Now, it’s not a matter of whether you have a belief or not; it’s a matter of what influences you have in relation to that belief, or what constructs you express in relation to that belief.
Therefore, what I would say to you is, DO you incorporate that belief? Yes, you do. If you didn’t, you wouldn’t be concerned with regeneration, because regeneration isn’t only about the body consciousness—that’s only one aspect of it. If that was the only aspect of regeneration, then it would be very easy for everyone to move in the direction of regenerating, because it would simply be a matter of instructing the body consciousness to stop degenerating.
But it isn’t that simple. It’s much more complex than that, because in this, you have generated beliefs about aging, which is what creates that system, which is what creates that action. And in that, there are very, very, very few individuals—it’s very rare that an individual develops and continues to change but doesn’t degenerate. It’s exceedingly rare.
In this, this is the piece about everything is interconnected. It isn’t only about one thing; it isn’t only about your body; it is about everything. It’s about the whole—the whole picture, and in that, your relationship to money and objects and structures—houses, buildings, all of it—plants, animals, everything. Everything: a chair in your home, an appliance, your technology. It isn’t only about your body; it’s about everything, and that within your reality, you do have the belief that everything ages, everything degenerates, everything moves in a direction of not regenerating, which includes manifestations such as money just as much as it does include manifestations such as your house, that unless you renovate your house at some point, it will continue to degenerate, it will age, and its structure will begin to break down, because everything does that in your reality. That is part of the belief systems.
Now, in that, it isn’t about changing the belief system—because you can’t—but it is about choosing different influences and being intentional in what you are choosing in your reality, which is precisely what YOU are moving into in wanting to express yourself more as essence in physical focus, and in that, being much more self-aware and intentionally choosing everything—which is the point.
And in that, it is a matter of being able to recognize or alert yourself to whenever you are moving in an expression or a direction that is contrary to that regeneration, which is very valuable.
Obviously, you express taking issue with myself and disagreeing with myself that you don’t have this belief. Yes, you do.
NUNO: Now do you mean that I don’t have the belief because the belief exists just generally? Or are you saying that I actually engage that belief?
ELIAS: It’s not a matter of engaging it or not engaging it. You DO engage it because you exist within physical focus. It’s a matter of which influences do you engage with it, not whether you believe it or not, not whether you AGREE with it or not, but what influences are you expressing.
Now, I grant you that you may not express as strongly as most other individuals in relation to your ability to be generating something, some manifestation such as money as you age. You may not be expressing that as strongly as another individual, but it’s not that you don’t hold that at all or that you don’t have any association with that at all.
I would say to you that if you were realistically to be considering yourself without the regeneration process, without being successful with the regeneration process, if you were to visualize yourself at 103 years old, I would venture to say that your image of yourself is not going to be something that is tremendously productive.
NUNO: Well, I’ve been actually working on that, but…
ELIAS: I know you are, and I definitely acknowledge that. This is the reason that I’m saying you asked me a question [of] how can you use my energy to help you to move more in the direction of that regeneration. And this is what I am saying to you. You can use my energy to actually, yes, help you to move farther in that direction, first of all to alert you at any moment, at any time, in any subject. Regardless of how slight it may be, a slight expression is affecting.
NUNO: Okay. I understand. Now specifically then, how do I configure your energy to do that? I mean, you had previously expressed to me that the best way to accept your energy was to simply not direct it, was simply to allow it.
ELIAS: Yes.
NUNO: Okay, so I need some clarity on this.
ELIAS: Very well.
Now, in that, continuing in that theme and in that direction, then we simply set an intention, an agreement that you are allowing my energy to alert you when you’re not objectively aware of something that you may be expressing that is contrary to your desire to move in regeneration.
NUNO: Okay.
ELIAS: Now, the only piece in that that remains is, in relation to that, what would you choose, what do you want to choose as some expression that I will generate, in a manner of speaking, to objectively let you know that I’m doing that?
NUNO: It really doesn’t matter to me. Some kind of a physical sensation or perhaps a visual clue. Either one is quite acceptable to me.
ELIAS: Very well. Or, would you say that it would be easier if it was simply a thought?
NUNO: It could be.
ELIAS: Or would a sensation be more identifiable?
NUNO: I think a sensation would be more identifiable. I think the difficulty I would have with a thought would be that I would go in a direction of “Well, I’m just thinking that.” I mean, I don’t know the origin of this thought because I generate thoughts all the time.
ELIAS: Very well. Very well. Then I will express (pause)… I would say that the easiest sensation would be an itch.
NUNO: Okay.
ELIAS: And that can be anywhere. It doesn’t matter.
NUNO: You’re going to have me choose this, right? Um…
ELIAS: No! I am expressing I will choose to express the sensation of an itch, and it doesn’t matter where the itch is. Anywhere that you feel an itch, then that is your indicator that I identified an expression.
NUNO: Okay. That’s quite acceptable. I was wondering, is it possible for you to present that itch in conjunction with a thought?
ELIAS: It is.
NUNO: I mean, the idea of a thought has a lot of appeal to me; I’m just concerned as to whether I would dismiss it. What I’m saying is, this is a very valuable indicator to me. I don’t want to miss it. But on the other hand, I can see how receiving that thought is an expression that I would like to receive.
ELIAS: Very well. Then I will express an energy to create a thought when I generate the energy of the itch.
NUNO: That’d be excellent, and I really appreciate this.
ELIAS: Very well. I would say that in that, there isn’t anything tremendous that you are required to do. For the most part it is simply a matter of allowing. And in that, what I would say in relation to that allowance is that when you receive the thought, simply allow that also. Don’t fight with it. And don’t try to analyze it, either—it isn’t necessary.
NUNO: But the thought and the itch is an indicator to me that I am engaging in some direction that is degenerative?
ELIAS: Yes, but what I am saying is, if you are allowing, I’m expressing a physical action with you and a thought. That’s all that is necessary. If you are allowing, then what your part is, is accepting that, and your subjective awareness will automatically address it.
NUNO: Ah. I understand.
ELIAS: You don’t have to work at it. This isn’t something that you have to generate some type of work in relation to it—no. All you have to do is allow, and then in doing so, your subjective awareness will accept that and will address to it.
NUNO: Okay. I understand.
ELIAS: Because your subjective awareness is what is directing the body consciousness.
NUNO: Yes. Definitely.
And on that subject, there is that dreaded subject of blood pressure, that I keep falling into that trap. Will this help me in that?
ELIAS: It should, yes. I would say to you, you were moving in a direction of lessening that. Have you altered that?
NUNO: No, I mean (sighs)… I have been moving in that direction, but I still have episodes of it in which my attention goes to it and it just falls off a cliff basically at that point.
ELIAS: Fluctuates.
NUNO: Repeat?
ELIAS: And then it fluctuates.
NUNO: Yes. So, yeah, that’s where I am with that.
ELIAS: Very well. Yes. This would actually be helpful with that also. But I would definitely be acknowledging you, my friend, that I am aware that you have been affecting it successfully and that you have been maintaining that successfully for a significant time framework.
NUNO: I view this as something that will continue to improve as I improve my own self-awareness.
ELIAS: Which is correct. And I would say that the more that you move in this direction, though, I would say that you are moving closer to maintaining more consistency without the fluctuation.
NUNO: I agree.
ELIAS: And I would be very much acknowledging what you HAVE been accomplishing.
NUNO: Okay. Well, that’s very good. I’m going to be needing to talk to you, I think, in the near future. I have various other things to talk to you about, but one question maybe that we could quickly get out of the way here is [about] grey hair: Is that a degeneration? Or is that simply a transformation of appearance?
ELIAS: I would say that it could be either. For some people—for some people—it is definitely associated with degeneration, but I would say realistically that it is also simply a part of changes in appearance, that the loss of the color in the shaft of the hair doesn’t necessarily equate with degeneration.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
It would happen anyway, let me say that, that that is a part of development. And in that, at some point, and for some individuals sooner rather than later, the body consciousness stops producing the color liquid that fills the hair shaft. And in that, it doesn’t affect the health of hair, it doesn’t affect the growth of hair, it doesn’t affect whether the hair is healthy or not; it simply is a natural action that the body consciousness changes.
NUNO: Well, that’s interesting. Okay. Well, that’s something I’d like to change.
ELIAS: Very well.
NUNO: But that puts a different perspective on it. So, in my case, is it a degeneration or is it simply a natural development?
ELIAS: In your situation it’s a natural development.
NUNO: Okay. All right. Well, thank you, my friend. As always, you’ve been extremely helpful, and my appreciation for you is highly expressed.
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would express to you, my dear friend, great encouragement and tremendous support in what you are doing, as always. And I express to you considerable encouragement.
Until our next meeting, and in dear friendship as always, au revoir.
NUNO: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 59 minutes)
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