Session 202106101

Stop Looking at What Everyone Else Is Doing

Topics:

“Stop Looking at What Everyone Else Is Doing”
“Egyptian, Mayan, European Royalty and God Beliefs”
“The Absolute Truth That You Are Creating Your Reality”
“Foresight and Choice”

Thursday, June 10, 2021 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Ann (Vivette)

ELIAS: Good morning!

ANN: Good morning, Elias. Actually, good afternoon!

ELIAS: Ah! And how shall we begin?

ANN: Good question. (Both laugh) I kind of know what I want to talk about, but I’m not quite sure how I want to talk about it, or how I even want to present it or ask it—which is not unusual for me, I know. (Elias chuckles) But I guess I’ll just say it.

Well, okay. So one, John and I have been very busy. We went on a 5,000-mile road trip across the U.S.A. and then down to Cabo, had a very nice time. I enjoyed it immensely, and now we’re here in Mexico and getting internet set up and getting phone bills and just doing a lot of logistics stuff, getting everything set up. Which is all good, I don’t mind any of that. I guess the thing that it struck a chord—and it doesn’t seem like a really big deal to me, but it’s just a little bit that I want to either figure out what it is I’m looking for or what I want to understand or what I want to get clarity on or just really trust myself.

For instance, I was talking to Denise, and she was telling me about the exciting things they are doing with their familiars in… I don’t have to go into all that. I’m not sure what I should and shouldn’t say; you know, it’s theirs to reveal, but I thought, “You know, that sounded like fun.” I’m like, “Okay, they’re doing all this really exciting stuff and going into new places that we’ve not been before and exploring new things and creating new things,” which is exciting. And then I hear about other people doing all these exciting things in different ways, and I’m like, “This is really exciting.” And one part of me says, “Oh my gosh, since I’m bringing all of this into my awareness, this feels really good and I’m a part of this, because even if I’m not necessarily objectively doing something, my attention is on all these really cool things that are happening. “

And then also, I’m thinking here we’re in Mexico, we have this condo, there’s maybe 30, 35 other owners and there’s a little group that we’ve formed. And everybody does a little bit. It’s really nice, because everybody does something. One guy’s really good with numbers, he looks at a budget. It’s like everybody pitches in a little bit, and it’s really cool. It’s this community. So this is all good, but then I have that there’s still this part of me—and it’s not bad, and I don’t focus there or stay there, but I would like just to get to a place where I really do feel like I really do trust myself. Because there’s a part of me that it’s like, “Oh my god, but I don’t do any of that.” (Laughs) I mean, I know on one hand, because I do believe this—or at least it’s words; I don’t know if it’s engrained in my beingness yet—but I do believe that everybody, just by being who they are, you are fulfilling an unfulfillable purpose by anybody else. You are doing your thing that nobody else can do, and it’s worthy and it’s valid.

ELIAS: And I very much agree with that.

ANN: Yeah. So, I want to… I guess I just want to get past this. I mean, this is what I do: When I was talking to Denise, I’m like… I said, “Oh my god! I feel like I’m being left behind or something,” because first of all, I’m focused on, like I feel like I’m so busy doing other stuff I just can’t focus on that. But I tell myself, “Okay, if that is my desire and that’s my interest, I could do it. It’s not like I’m being left behind; I’m choosing NOT to do it.” And like with the condo, I’m like, “How much or how little I don’t contribute isn’t necessarily good or bad.” I guess I’m just wanting to become comfortable with living my life the way… There’s a part of me that feels one, I’m lazy—and it’s not a big part. I feel like these are just things that have been going on my whole life and I’ve worked really far through them and I just kind of want to kick them over the edge. Like I feel like maybe I’m lazy or I’m not smart enough. It’s that “enough” thing again, or…

And I don’t even want to list this stuff because I know I have a lot of good stuff in me and a lot of stuff that I enjoy and love, and I could list things that are wonderful about me, as I can list things that I DON’T think are wonderful about me. But I guess I just want to let it all go once and for all. I just want to be content walking in my beingness, I guess, and I feel like I’m really close but I’m not quite there yet.

All right. I’m done.

ELIAS: I would say I agree with you that you are very close.

ANN: Yes.

ELIAS: And I would say that it is simply a matter of stopping that action of looking at what everyone else is doing.

ANN: Of comparing. And I told myself that too: “Don’t compare.”

ELIAS: But you don’t always realize that you’re comparing, that simply looking at what everybody else is doing IS a form of comparing. Therefore, in that, that’s the reason that I say to you, stop looking at what everyone else is doing. It doesn’t matter what everyone else is doing. What matters is what you’re doing, and whatever it is that YOU’RE doing, what matters is that you’re doing it because you want to, and because it interests you, and because you’re comfortable with that. And in that, you don’t have to be tremendously inspired, you don’t have to be moving in some spiritually enlightened direction (Ann laughs); it’s simply a matter of recognizing what is important and interesting to you.

And in that, that may be simply giving yourself permission to lie on a beach and watch the ocean. Remember: you have worked most of your life. You have actually incorporated a significant amount of struggle in your life. What I would say to you is, perhaps for a time framework what interests you and what you want to do and what is comfortable for you and makes you happy may simply be to BE and to not have to do anything, to not be expected to do anything, to not be expected to contribute, to not be expected to do what everyone else is doing or to move in a direction of what your contribution is. Perhaps right now your contribution is simply being you, which I would say is a significant contribution in itself.

Sometimes your greatest contribution is what seems to you to be nothing, but what seems to you to be nothing for other individuals may be tremendously significant because they can’t do it. Therefore, what I would say to you, my friend, is think about your gifts, and in that, remember how important they are. That doesn’t necessarily mean that you have to move in any particular direction. Stop generating expectations of yourself. Other people don’t have expectations of you.

ANN: I feel like they do (laughs), but they probably don’t.

Okay, so I think that right there is the crux. It’s really me looking at other people and comparing myself to other people.

ELIAS: I agree.

ANN: That is probably the crux of it, that I can stop doing that. But it’s interesting because you stop looking at other people. It’s not just looking at them; there’s got to be more than that, because obviously I’m in this world with all these other people. I’m going to be looking at them. I’m going to be curious about what they do. I’m going be interested in what they’re doing. I’m going to be fascinated by what they’re doing. I mean, it’s not—

ELIAS: That’s not what I mean.

ANN: I know that’s not what you mean, but yeah.

ELIAS: Because obviously yes, you live in a world with other people, and therefore yes, I agree with you that you automatically would be interested in what they’re doing and observing what they’re doing and paying attention to that and watching, and being fascinated. But—that’s not what I am expressing when I say to you not to be paying attention to other individuals and what they are doing. What I mean is in that, for you to not be looking at what other individuals are doing in relation to what you think you should be doing.

ANN: Yes. Yes. I get that. I think actually that’s the last little piece to fall—almost, or one of the last little pieces to fall, or to let go of, is to let go of that.

Yeah. All right. Well, that’s good. I feel good with that. I feel good. I think that was good, so now I just want to kind of just switch to lighthearted curiosity things.

The last session, or the session before that, we had talked about, for lack of a better term, the woken people, and you were talking about the cultures that had pyramids, like the Egyptians or the Mayans, usually were awake. We left it off talking about the Egyptians and the slaves of that time, and how some of the slaves were awake and some of them weren’t. And I guess that probably means the royalty too; some of them probably were awake or weren’t. But in the terms of being awake, if that means that they know that they are creating their own reality…So curiosity, for no other reason—

ELIAS: It isn’t necessarily that they know that they are creating their own reality, because in that, what I would say to you is, it is a matter of recognizing the time and recognizing the awareness of the people of the time.

Now, in that, that also includes the culture. Therefore, what I would say to you is that in relation to that, in relation to the culture, they were, in a manner of speaking, spiritually awake. Therefore, they were aware of themselves; they were aware of, let us say, their relationship to their reality; and then they were aware of their relationship to the divine. That is an important distinction, because that was a very, very strong part of their culture, that they had very strong beliefs and associations with their gods.

ANN: Did they think their gods were separate from themselves?

ELIAS: Yes and no, because in relation to royalty, they actually believed that they became gods. Therefore, there was somewhat of a difference in relation to the idea and the belief in the divine in that it wasn’t entirely separate from them, because royalty could actually ascend to become a god. But the peasantry could not.

ANN: Oh, the peasantry could not. Okay. Interesting.

ELIAS: Therefore, that would be a distinction also. There definitely was a caste system and a distinction between royalty and others.

ANN: So, what is the difference then between the Egyptian culture in terms of royalty and let’s say the European culture, like in the 16-1700s in terms of royalty? Did the European culture think that they were also gods? I know they said they did, but did they believe it?

ELIAS: No. Now, the difference in that would be that, in relation to royalty in European cultures, is that no, they did not actually believe that they were gods or that they could become gods, I would say except for very few, which they were actually more in the direction of expressing that narcissism. Therefore, that’s different.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: But I would say that in relation to European royalty, they believed that they were definitely touched by God, therefore that they were special and that they may have even been a vehicle of God; therefore, very similar to what the popes believed, or still believe. I would say that in that, they also believed that God directly spoke through them, that God directly was involved with them, and that God was directly giving them communications in relation to not only themselves but their people and situations and giving them direction.

ANN: To me it doesn’t seem like—going back to the Egyptian culture and these people more or less being aware or awake—it doesn’t seem to me like they would be very awake unless they thought everybody could be quote-unquote “God” or be a god or whatever. I mean, it—

ELIAS: I would say that that is a matter of perception.

ANN: Because of my time.

ELIAS: That in that, I would say to you, would you say that an individual that believes now in God in some form is less awake than you?

ANN: (Laughs) Well, if I have to be honest, I would say yes, but I know that’s a wrong answer. (Laughs) Part of me knows that’s not a wrong answer, but the only reason I say “less awake” is because I…

I mean, this is another thing that I’ve been working around, being like right and wrong. Obviously, I think the way I believe is the right way, because I wouldn’t believe it. I mean, there’s a part of me that still feels like that, although there is a part of me that knows now, or is learning to understand or being open to understanding, that yes, everybody is creating their own realities and every reality is just as true as my reality for them. But it does—

ELIAS: That doesn’t mean that yours isn’t right.

ANN: Right. Right. Right. Right. No, I agree. So, this will be interesting to see if I can work through this too, because I do believe that… I mean, what I am believing more and more is that we do each… Okay, so if we each create our own reality—and I believe that—then… I mean, I believe that is the way things quote-unquote “work.” So then somebody else says they believe God creates their reality, I guess that’s how it would work for them. But I believe that since I know… This is very confusing to me, because I know there is not one reality, but I believe that I am right, that I am creating it and then that they’re creating it too, they just use God as a vehicle or something, but I’m really MORE right. I feel kind of chagrined in saying all this stuff because maybe I sound arrogant or whatever, but I actually want to say it, because I want—

ELIAS: Actually, I would say no. I would say that the only distinction that I would make in what you are expressing is actually the same distinction that YOU’RE making, in that you ARE right, for you—

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: --and that that is right in your reality, and that that doesn’t mean that someone that believes that God is orchestrating their reality—they don’t believe that God is creating all of their reality, because they do believe, in every religion, that they have free will, therefore they don’t believe that God is creating their reality; they simply believe that God is somewhat orchestrating some parts of it, and that God is guiding them, or blessing them, or in some situations cursing them. But in that therefore, they believe that some parts of their reality are being created by something else other than themself. But I would say that most of you believe that, that there are very few of you that actually believe that you are creating every aspect of your reality.

ANN: And so, if I truly, truly, truly believe that, then I WOULD be doing that, right?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: But I’m doing it even if I don’t truly believe it.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: Okay, so then there you go. Is that an absolute truth then? Is it an absolute truth that we each are creating our own reality whether we believe it or not?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANN: Hm. So,—

ELIAS: Yes, I would say that would be a truth, that you creating your reality is whether it’s this reality, physical reality, nonphysical reality, any reality, that yes, that would be a truth, that you are creating your reality regardless of whether you are aware of it or not.

ANN: So sometimes I think… like, I do have a desire to figure out how all this works, you know, all of us creating our reality, and I know it’s so big I’m not going to probably figure it out in this lifetime, but I feel like I get closer and closer to figuring out how things work. Because you know, I have an experience, I try something, I’m like, “Oh yeah, that does make a difference,” and that kind of works for me. But I kind of still believe…

Okay, so I could go either one of two ways. One way would be okay, as I figure out more and more and more, like however long it takes me, or maybe in my essence or maybe in my nonphysical part of me, that eventually I am going to figure out quote-unquote, the “truth,” how everything really does work. And then another part of me goes off and says, “Well, you’ll never get there, because there’s infinity ways of the way things can work and there is not just one way.” So which way is the right way? (Both laugh) I feel really fuzzy, so I’m hoping that you understand me.

ELIAS: I do. And what I would say is, “Which way is the right way? Neither.” I would say that in relation to creating reality, you ARE creating reality. It’s all about choice. Therefore, in that, it’s not that you will eventually figure out how you create everything or how reality works. I would say that in that line of thinking, it’s simply a matter of realizing that it’s all about choice. That is all of it, is choice, that that’s how you are creating all of your reality. You are creating all of your reality by choosing. That’s the piece that you don’t entirely accept yet, that everything you do, everything that you engage, is a choice. And in that, you know that in theory, or intellectually, but you don’t know it necessarily experientially. You don’t entirely realize that yet, that everything that you do, EVERYTHING that you do is a choice. Therefore, every moment of your existence is a choice. Every breath you take is a choice. Every action, every step that you take is a choice. Everything is a choice.

ANN: My heart beating is a choice?

ELIAS: Yes. Yes.

ANN: Okay. So, I am choosing—

ELIAS: Therefore, in relation to that question of you recognizing that you are creating your reality or recognizing how reality works (chuckles), how it functions, THAT is how it functions.

ANN: By choosing it. So, then… Okay, so there’s some very obvious ways that we are choosing—and I feel like we’re doing a recap; I mean, it’s everything you’ve been telling us forever—is by what you pay attention to. You choose what you pay attention to, but you’re also…

Okay, so if my heart beating is a choice, how am I choosing my heartbeat?

ELIAS: Because you are choosing to maintain your body consciousness in certain capacities.

ANN: So, I’m making unconscious choices all the time too.

ELIAS: I would once again express: not unconscious choices. You are simply making choices that you are not necessarily paying attention to. That doesn’t mean that they are unconscious choices.

ANN: I guess I should have said subconscious.

ELIAS: Because you CAN [inaudible] them. You can [inaudible]. The idea of generating some type of unconscious choice is one that promotes the expression that you not only AREN’T aware of that choice, but that you CAN’T be aware of it.

ANN: Hm. So, I can be—

ELIAS: Because it’s unconscious. What I would say to you in that is that that is actually not correct, that you may not be aware of a choice because you’re not paying attention to it, but that doesn’t mean that you CAN’T be aware of that choice. You CAN be, if you are paying attention. If you are moving your attention in certain directions, then you can be aware of choices that are, let us say, maintaining your heartbeat. And it isn’t as difficult as you think. People express that type of awareness very frequently simply through meditation, that they are aware of the functions of their body consciousness.

ANN: Hm.

ELIAS: In this, it genuinely IS simply a matter of how you are directing your attention. You can be directing your attention in a capacity with your body consciousness in which you can be fully aware of your blood flow through your veins and arteries, in which you can actually not only feel it but you can see it, you can be aware of it, you can even manipulate it. That is a matter of what you pay attention to. And I would say in this, this is the reason that I have said to you so many times, “Nothing is hidden from you.” That’s what subconscious expresses, that something is hidden from you, and actually, nothing is.

ANN: All right. So, I’m getting… Like you always say, you’ve got to have the experience to understand it, so it’s a just a matter of exploring more and more and seeing what happens. (Sighs)

ELIAS: And I would also say that it is a matter of what you are interested in. You may not be interested in how your heart pumps or how your arteries and veins are moving. It may not be important to you. It may not be interesting to you. Something else might be very interesting to you. It’s a matter of expressing what IS important to you, what is interesting to you.

ANN: Yes, what is interesting to me.

ELIAS: Because that is what you will pay attention to. You automatically pay attention to what is important to you, and you automatically DON’T pay attention to what ISN’T important to you. Therefore, I would say to you in that, this is the reason that I emphasize the significance of what you make important.

ANN: Yeah. So, as a little fun thing to share or talk about experience or what I am choosing or not choosing, or what I’m making important, I have noticed like if I’m on Facebook or watching the news—and you know how you say we’re all so suggestible but we’re getting less and less suggestible—but I have awareness of how I’m becoming less and less suggestible, and how I see these things now, or I hear things and I’m like it doesn’t have a trigger on me, it doesn’t have a pull on me, and sometimes I could even chuckle and it’s just nothing. It’s just like a breeze or something I could just brush away. It just doesn’t even bother me. And so, I’m making those less and less important. I making these suggestions that people – oh! These things that…

Like one thing I noticed—which was very exciting to me because I thought, “I can just expand this all over the place”—[was that] when we were driving our car down to Mexico, at first it says the only way you can go into Mexico is on a plane; no driving across the land border. That’s all we found, that’s all we got: no driving across the land border. But, you know, we’d heard people had done it, so all right, we’re going to drive across, we’re going to drive this car down. And then we’re driving down and I see this sign flashing: “Limited Crossing,” you only can cross the land border if you have business or whatever. And I was a little nervous. And I think you knew I was nervous because you sent me some energy and I felt that, and I appreciated that. But John, he wasn’t nervous. He’s like, “We going to go. We’re doing it.” We got across the border and there’s (laughs) not even the tiniest little bit of hiccup, no problem, no one asks anything. I mean, it was as easy as waking up and going into the bathroom and brushing your teeth or something. And I thought to myself, I’m like, “Oh my god! There’s all these people telling us what we can and can’t do, and you just do what you want anyway!” I was like, wow! It was fun, Elias. I really enjoyed that, (laughs) that experience. (Elias laughs)

But I just realized how often people are saying, “Oh, you can’t.” And then I remember so many people, “Oh, you can’t do this. You can do this. You have to do this. You can’t do this.” And then I am realizing this—talk about experience—I am realizing, “Oh no, it’s really a trick. I don’t necessarily have to listen to those people telling me I can’t and can do things.” So, I just want to really celebrate that, because that’s huge. Because that’s also a direction I wanted to move into. I mean, I know I still probably believe outside sources have control on me, but I wanted to move into more and more the direction of lessening that. And I am doing that, so I’m acknowledging myself.

ELIAS: Excellent! And I congratulate you.

ANN: That’s fun, though. But it’s like, that’s the experience part that’s so fun. I’m like, “Oh my god.” See, this is what I do. I go, “Oh my gosh, it’s true. It’s true.” I think about… (Elias laughs) So, what’s true is I think about a direction that I want to move in, and I don’t have to think about it too hard; it’s just kind of like this desire. I just have a desire to move in that direction, and then you kind of let go of it or do the best you can or just don’t give up or breathe through it, and it’s true! You kind of go in that direction.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And THAT is about choosing, and being aware of choosing.

ANN: Yeah. (Elias laughs) So, that’s exciting.

ELIAS: And from that, then you move in the direction of choosing and not only being aware of choosing, but being aware of choosing and what the implications of the choices are. Therefore, beginning to move in foresight.

ANN: Right. I know. That’s—

ELIAS: Because what you’re doing is, you’ve definitely taken a step, that you’re choosing and being aware of your choosing in the present. Therefore, you’ve moved from being aware of what you were choosing in hindsight to being aware of what you’re choosing now, and then you move to the step of being aware of what you are choosing with foresight.

ANN: So, I just have to point my ship in that direction with that desire, and we’ll see, we’ll go in that direction.

ELIAS: (Laughs) I very much agree. (Laughs)

ANN: Okay. These seem like maybe obvious connections, but I just still want to say it just to get it really sunken in, but like the hurdle thing I think that I wanted to get over was what you had said at the beginning about paying attention to other people. That’s the same thing like I was doing, like paying attention to what other people were telling me—not only comparing myself, but paying attention to what other people were telling me I can and can’t do.

ELIAS: Correct.

ANN: So, that is clicking in a little bit more. I really like that. I really like that, that I get to choose.

ELIAS: Yes. And you do get to choose. That it doesn’t matter, even when you look at something outside of yourself that seems to be a significant authority, or something that is telling you something absolute, you still get to choose.

ANN: Yeah. Oh gosh.

ELIAS: Even if it is something that seems challenging: You can’t drive here; you can’t enter here; you have to move in this direction; you have to move in that direction—no you don’t.

ANN: I know. Oh my god. Oh, I cannot tell you the relief that is flooding out of me right now. Ah! (Elias laughs) Oh my gosh. This I think is the piece that I wanted to really have sink in. Oh my gosh. I love this. I frickin’ love the frickin’ fuck out of this. (Both laugh) Oh my god!

ELIAS: And I would say that is tremendous, my friend. (Laughs) That is a tremendous awakening.

ANN: Geez Louise! Yeah. (Elias laughs) Oh my god, oh my god. Holy Moley! This is exciting stuff, Elias! (Elias laughs)

Hm. Yeah, this foresight piece, it’s still pretty fuzzy but I don’t have to worry about it because a lot of things start out fuzzy and they end up becoming clear, so there you go. (Both laugh)

ELIAS: I would say congratulations.

ANN: (Laughs) Ah. Well, okay, so let me talk about this—

ELIAS: You don’t HAVE to know how everything functions, and you don’t have to know how everything will unfold; because in that, I would say that the more that you move in that direction of trusting and moving in the awareness that you are choosing now, everything, the more you will automatically move in that direction of foresight, and then you WILL know.

ANN: Okay, so a little clarity on this, a little distinction on this between foresight and cause and effect. Because I think once you had said there really is no cause and effect, but foresight seems like if I make a choice, and then I have foresight where I know where that choice will lead me, that seems a bit like cause and effect. So, what’s the difference between—

ELIAS: No, because you still have choice.

ANN: So, cause and effect doesn’t have choice; foresight has.

ELIAS: What you are doing with foresight is you are employing the ability to see the doors you are opening or the doors you are closing by the choices that you are making in the now. By the choices that you are making now, in the present, that shows you what doors you are opening and what doors you are closing in association with the future.

Now, in that, you still have choice. Therefore, you can choose those directions. You can choose to move through those doors. You can choose to close some doors. You can choose to walk through those that you’ve opened, or you can choose not to. The factor that you chose to open a door by a choice that you are engaging now doesn’t mean you are necessarily going to engage it, or that you are necessarily going to do it; it is simply giving you the awareness of what possibilities you’ve opened or closed.

ANN: Okay, so when I’m bringing into my awareness, I’m making a choice, like I’m choosing this moment, like what could I say to myself, or… I mean, I know the obvious ones, like “What am I choosing to pay attention to?” What questions should I be asking myself—or not should, but can I ask myself, just to help me really focus on what I am choosing in the moment, just to help me stop. Like if I want to stop and say, “Okay, I’m choosing in this moment, I’m paying attention.”

ELIAS: [Answering] “What are all of the avenues that this choice is connected to?” “What can I see?” “What are the implications, realistically, in my life that what choice I’m making in this moment is expressing?” “What door am I opening by making this choice?”

And let me express to you that it isn’t a matter of looking for earth-shattering potentials.

ANN: Yeah.

ELIAS: It is simply a matter of recognizing: What are the implications of this choice that I am engaging in this moment?

ANN: Okay, so I’m choosing actually to engage in conversation with you this moment. One of the implications of that would be offering myself more information to actually offer myself more choices. (Laughs) I don’t know, Elias. I mean… Okay.

ELIAS: Correct. But also, I would say you are choosing to be engaging conversation about choices. Therefore, what are the implications of that? The implications can be not only more clarity, but it may be about choice itself, therefore being more aware in each moment that what you are doing IS a choice. That would be one implication.

Therefore, in that, it may be you opening a door in relation to an interaction that you may have with the other people in your community there where you are now. You were beginning this conversation in somewhat of a quandary about what your direction is, what your place is, what your contribution is, what are you doing, and looking at what other people are doing and what they are engaging. What you’re doing in this now is examining the subject of choices, of choosing and being aware of choosing in the moment, and empowering yourself by knowing that you GET to choose. Therefore, you may be opening more doors in which you get to choose. You might be engaging conversations with the other individuals, and they may be expressing in one direction and you may realize, “I get to choose. I don’t have to follow. I get to choose what’s important to me.”

ANN: Yeah. (Sighs) Okay. I like it. (Both laugh)

All right. I think that’s enough expansion for this one moment. (Both laugh) I wish I had some light-hearted curiosity question.

ELIAS: Excellent! That’s an excellent choice also. (Both laugh)

ANN: I don’t want to pop! (Both laugh) Oh my goodness, oh my goodness. Okay, so let me think.

ELIAS: I would say making a choice to relax is also an excellent choice. (Laughs)

ANN: Yes, it is. (Elias laughs) It is, it is. (Elias laughs)

Oh my goodness. All right. Well, all right, do you have anything you want to ask me? (Elias laughs) Is there anything I know that you don’t know?

ELIAS: (Pause) Hm. Actually, yes. What you know that I don’t know would be in each moment what you ARE going to choose.

ANN: Ah!... Oh! I know. Okay, I have a question. This is a fun question, and I know everyone’s asking you and this is a prediction, and speaking about what we are going to choose… But I was listening to this podcast with Prince Harry. And I was listening to him, and oh my god, he sounded like he was talking about trauma. He’s interested in helping with mental health and how the body holds trauma. I mean, he’s saying a lot of stuff that we’ve been talking about, all the shifty forums and everything. And I was thinking, “Oh my god, he… It would be so ironic, coming from a royal family”—I don’t know if he’s stepped down from the royal family or kind of separated himself from the royal family—I just thought, “How ironic if he would have been that leader you were talking about, or that guide you were talking about.” Am I on the trail, Elias?

ELIAS: No. (Both laugh)

ANN: NO! Dagnabbit! I knew. I figured that would be too easy. And oh my gosh.

ELIAS: I would say that… First of all I would say that, as I have expressed many times previously, everyone is shifting, regardless of where they are receiving their information or if they’re receiving any information at all. Everyone is shifting, and therefore it isn’t surprising that many people would be expressing in similar directions.

[The timer for the end of the session rings]

You are all interconnected. And I would say in relation to the other individual that I spoke of at our group interaction, this is not an individual that is famous. This is not an individual that is tremendously well known.

ANN: Hm.

ELIAS: Therefore, you and many other individuals can put that search to rest. (Laughs)

ANN: All right. All right. I will put it to rest. I have more important things to do anyway. (Elias laughs)

Okay. Well, there goes the buzzer. Elias, thank you for this conversation. I enjoyed it. It was helpful. I got clarity, more clarity. And we will see what kind of fun I get into that I can tell you about next time.

ELIAS: Very well. I shall greatly be looking forward to that. (Laughs)

I express tremendous encouragement to you, my friend. In dear love, as always, and in congratulating you on your choices of empowerment.

ANN: Ah, thank you. I like that. (Chuckles)

ELIAS: As always, my dear friend, au revoir.

ANN: Au revoir.

(Elias departs after 1 hour)


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