Morphing Imagery; The US Election; The Covid Vaccine
Topics:
“Morphing Imagery”
“Trump Followers and the US Election”
“Covid: The Vaccine, Fear and Public Opinion”
“Timeline for Shifting”
“Stop Worrying”
Thursday, February 4, 2021 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Carleen (Neliswa)
ELIAS: Good morning!
CARLEEN: Elias, how are you? (Both laugh)
ELIAS: As always, and yourself?
CARLEEN: I’m pretty good. Pretty good, considering the interesting year that we had and probably will continue to have. I’ll have more questions about that in a bit, but it’s interesting, when I decide I’m going to have a session with you, of course I gather my questions, and what happens is through other people’s sessions I get a lot of my questions answered. (Laughs) I’m always amused by that. (Elias chuckles) I always remember you talking about you get the answers yourself. But nevertheless, I always enjoy talking to you, at least once a year. (Elias laughs)
Okay. So…
ELIAS: What shall we discuss this day?
CARLEEN: Oh, I’ve got a few things. One of the things I wanted to ask you about: On occasion I see this bright, comforting light. With my eyes closed, it’s up in the left-hand side. I see it in meditation, dreams, semi-sleep, and I even remember after Sizwey disengaged I was aware of this white light. And it’s just comforting, and I was kind of wondering, what is that?
ELIAS: That is you.
CARLEEN: Me. Okay.
ELIAS: That is you as essence.
CARLEEN: Ah! Now Mongezi said it was my higher self.
ELIAS: Which would be the same.
CARLEEN: Okay. Okay. So, it’s me giving myself comfort?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. Or insight? I like it, even in dreams. (Laughs) Okay. Okay. Will I be aware of that when I get disengaged, this light?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. That kind of crossed my mind, too.
Okay. Next question: When I fall asleep at night, when I’m in that semi state, I have two tree pictures that are on the wall, and it’s been really interesting. I see them kind of change and transform, like the bark might be silver, and… It’s a three-dimensional picture, the one I actually look at. It’s got some textures, it’s like a bayou-type tree with mossy stuff, and I’ve actually seen the mossy look like pink flowers and a silver bark. And sometimes I look at it and I see faces and animals, and then other times it’s like the breeze is blowing through the picture. I entertain myself. It’s fascinating. (Laughs) And I have another one on the other side that is actually a real picture of a tree in Atlanta during the winter, and it has a light from the bottom and I notice the same thing with that as well. It transforms and changes, and I see faces or silhouettes. So I was going to ask you, is this sort of a validation to myself about how I can change perception?
ELIAS: Yes, and it is also, in a manner of speaking, your method of moving in a direction of giving yourself images of other yous: other focuses, other aspects of yourself. And in that, I would say that it is very creative. But yes, that is a part of it, that piece of flexibility and being able to change and, in a manner of speaking, morph yourself into expressions.
CARLEEN: Hm. Would this help me with perceptions in my physical, subjective perceptions? Like right now, if I choose to perceive situations, events, differently as well?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. I heard Jason talk to Laszlo and then Scotty. They talked about the magic and this spectroscopic method, if you will. Is it kind of like that? When you can perceive things differently, change it?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Yes? Okay. (Laughs) Hm. Okay. Interesting. Even with current events and trauma? (Laughs)
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. All right.
ELIAS: Because it is a matter of altering your perception, and when you alter your perception you alter your reality.
CARLEEN: Hm. Interesting. It’s fun. (Both laugh) Okay. Good to know.
Okay, I have one more question [to] see if you can give me a little insight on it, when Jason was talking to Laszlo. Now Laszlo is part of the eleven, your group, correct? Is that right?
ELIAS: No.
CARLEEN: No? No. How about Ayla and Tompkin?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. But not Laszlo? (Pause) Are you there?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: That would be correct.
CARLEEN: Okay. Because he was talking about another event. Do you have any insight into that?
ELIAS: Meaning?
CARLEEN: I don’t know. He said, “What is this event Laszlo said may take hold?” He was telling Jason in his session, and I asked Jason about it. He said he didn’t know.
ELIAS: Mm. (Pause) I would say that this actually may be a (pause) misinterpretation, in a manner of speaking.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: Or due to interference with the exchange. I would say if this is in reference to the topic in which Laszlo expressed that the mass event did not accomplish what it was intended to accomplish, that is incorrect.
CARLEEN: Okay. Okay. All right. I’m not sure what it was—
ELIAS: [Inaudible] type of mass event that may be coming, I would say that there isn’t necessarily anything that is a potential at this particular time framework. At this time you are engaging the aftermath of the mass event, just as you would have been if you would have created an apocalypse, which you didn’t.
CARLEEN: Right.
ELIAS: If you would have created that, you would have moved in a direction of mass destruction, and afterwards you would have been addressing to and engaging the aftermath of it. In that, you would have been engaging the aftermath of that for several years, if not longer.
CARLEEN: Right. I remember you told Val. She asked a specific question. Okay.
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: All right. There’s something else I wanted to ask you: Many people—my impression, correct me if I’m wrong – I’ve had students and people come up and they have traumatic events; not Covid, but one of my students had a nosebleed that didn’t end, another one thought she had a heart attack. Mongezi actually was hospitalized for four to five days with diarrhea and dehydration and pneumonia. Is this part of the trauma due to the Shift?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. Not necessarily... Now, I get pretty stressed when Mongezi gets ill, and it kind of occurred to me… The reason I react like that, could it be bleedthroughs with him? Or bleedthroughs, trauma from other experiences like Sizwey’s disengagement or the loss?
ELIAS: I would say actually that your reaction to this is very understandable. No, it isn’t about bleedthroughs.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: It is about now, and your attachment to him, and your not wanting him to disengage and not wanting to be left.
CARLEEN: Yep! That was pretty obvious. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Yes. I would say that that is very understandable. I would also say that some of your other experiences in relation to death have influenced that also and exacerbate it, but I would say that in itself that the experience itself of not wanting him to leave is what is the strongest factor.
CARLEEN: Okay. Yep, definitely that. Now, his experience in the hospital: Did he create this as maybe a method? He incessantly watched the news, and he is very much in support of Trump and all that. Was this his way of kind of getting away from it? Like a detox type of thing?
ELIAS: I would say it was definitely an action to move his attention back to himself.
CARLEEN: To himself. Okay. All right. Definitely, definitely. I wanted to ask you: I heard you tell Val that you called the Trump supporters fanatics. (Laughs) Now—
ELIAS: No.
CARLEEN: No? No? (Laughs) Okay.
ELIAS: That is incorrect.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: I did not express that as a blanket statement.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: I expressed that some individuals in that direction were and have expressed fanatical behaviors—or that they were moving in that direction—but no, I was not expressing a blanket statement that people who are supporting that individual are fanatics; no.
CARLEEN: (Laughs) I didn’t think so, but the way it… you know, how we interpret what we read: “Fanatics! Are we…?” because we personally liked him. I’m sure you’re aware of that, and—
ELIAS: There are MANY individuals that liked him and support him. And I would express, as I have, he definitely has served, and continues to do so, an important role. That he is being a catalyst and is important, and that it is not a matter of whether individuals agree with him or disagree with him. It is (chuckles) a matter of he is serving a purpose in encouraging people to think.
CARLEEN: Definitely. That’s my impression, too. And even his episode with the manifesting Covid, like you said, if you think about something all the time, and I still felt that was important, to show you that it doesn’t have to kill you.
ELIAS: Correct.
CARLEEN: Right. Right. And I kind of stopped—
ELIAS: In that, I would say that you are correct, that even in that manifestation, that was definitely a situation of not only when you concentrate on something or when you pay attention to something considerably you likely will create it; but in addition to that, when you are in opposition to something consistently you likely will create that also.
CARLEEN: As well. Okay.
ELIAS: And that was an excellent example of that, this individual being – or was being – very much in opposition to that expression. And in that, that creates a tremendous concentration of energy.
CARLEEN: Right.
ELIAS: This is the reason that you would be likely to create that very thing, which he did. But in that also, once again served as an example and as a catalyst in relation to how quickly he recovered, and then he was just as strong after as he was before.
CARLEEN: Right. (Pause) Are you there?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. Yes.
ELIAS: Therefore, I would say to you, my friend, do not misunderstand. I do not move in the direction of expressing that this individual is wrong or bad or that the people that support him or agree with him are wrong or bad either. I don’t move in that direction.
CARLEEN: No. You’re not judgmental. I mean, I’ve never—
ELIAS: I am very aware that this individual is opposed to him. I am very aware also of her opinion.
CARLEEN: Okay. Yeah, I’m sure you are. (Laughs)
ELIAS: And regardless of her opinion, that is irrelevant in relation to the other individual and his affectingness or his role in this time framework, and that he has been very effective with it and accomplishing quite well, actually.
CARLEEN: I thought so too, personally. Well, I resonated with a lot of his philosophy, especially regarding masks and alternatives. We don’t agree with everything, but I was not too pleased with the vaccine issue, but I realize that it was to… like you said, to provide safety and a feeling of safety and dissipate the fear, so that people can pay more attention to themselves. And I didn’t—
ELIAS: That is also an individual choice. I will express that a mask, it is an avenue that allows many individuals to feel safer, but it also, as in everything else, is an individual choice.
CARLEEN: Choice. Exactly. Okay. Well, his part, in my opinion, is just important, his beliefs and his role in this mass effect. Like you said, he didn’t color in the lines, and people didn’t like that. We did. I actually didn’t like him at first, because he’s very bombastic and… but he’s not your typical American politician.
ELIAS: I would agree. (Chuckles)
CARLEEN: Now; now I know you said the electoral college makes the decision on who is going to become the next president, but…because I don’t know, I really don’t know, did the people that voted legally in the United States, did Biden or Trump win? (Laughs) Not that it matters.
ELIAS: By the popular vote?
CARLEEN: Yes.
ELIAS: The latter.
CARLEEN: Biden?
ELIAS: No.
CARLEEN: Oh, Trump. Okay. Okay. Now; --
ELIAS: By the popular vote, yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. Now, fraud: True or false? Was there fraud?
ELIAS: (Pause) What I would say is, if you want a yes-or-no answer, I would say no. If you want a more accurate answer, I would say no more than any other time.
CARLEEN: Okay. No more than any other time. Okay. All right. Now, a question about the present president, Biden. Is he in transition?
ELIAS: Meaning, what type?
CARLEEN: There’s a…? Oh. Well, transition meaning he’s going to disengage, in the process of?
ELIAS: That, I would say, remains to be seen. He is not choosing that presently.
CARLEEN: Right. Okay.
ELIAS: But that could change.
CARLEEN: Well, yeah. Well, impressions – of course, impressions, what you see on video and that – he seems to lose train of thought, and sometimes—
ELIAS: Is he moving in the direction of mild dementia? Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. That’s what I thought too.
ELIAS: Is he moving in the direction of disengaging? Not at this point.
CARLEEN: Okay. Okay. This has been a… I have never in my entire life been more interested in politics. It was very difficult to, for me personally—of course Mongezi, he was glued to the television I think the entire year—to practice shifting. In fact, many people complained about they can’t sleep. Mongezi would get up at two o’clock in the morning and then he would meditate, and he would wake up angry. And even I’ve caught my own thoughts drifting in the morning to our political situation in the United States. And the world is… We’re all feeling this, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. Okay.
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: I know some people are able to… Just this year… well, after a couple of sessions and working more towards being present, especially after the election…I know Abraham Hicks talks about the result of the election, it doesn’t matter, you still can create your own reality.
ELIAS: Correct.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: I would definitely be in agreement with that.
CARLEEN: (Laughs) Okay. Now the vaccine: I heard you talk about how it’s providing a safety net for some people. I am vehemently against it. I am actually more afraid of that than the virus. (Laughs)
ELIAS: I would express, don’t engage it.
CARLEEN: Okay. That makes sense. Now,—
ELIAS: It is a choice. It is definitely a choice. And you can choose not to participate.
CARLEEN: Which I don’t want to, and neither does Mongezi, and a lot of people I’ve come across. How many people in – at least the United States, I don’t know about other countries – are going to take the vaccine, or desire it?
ELIAS: A lot.
CARLEEN: A lot. Yeah. Okay. Interesting.
ELIAS: I would say likely the majority.
CARLEEN: Likely the majority. Now there’s concern with people, even if they know the background information – well, I do – about [how] you talked about the culture that it was developed in and the possibility of reactions and et cetera, all that information. But a lot of them are taking it because they think it’s going to curtail their freedom to make the choices that they want in their life. And there’s talk about… you know, it’s against the law, our laws, to push something like that, you know? I don’t think it’s right, if that’s the case. But at least in the United States, it seems like a lot of the laws are being ignored.
ELIAS: (Sighs) I would say that I understand what you are saying. It is insidious, because for the most part, the direction that is being expressed isn’t actually—at this point—going against the law, because it isn’t being forced.
CARLEEN: Right.
ELIAS: Therefore, in that, it still is a matter of, let us say, individual choices and preferences. Meaning something such as cruises or airlines—travel—these are companies, and they are owned and are maintained by people. And it is the choice of those people to require certain expressions to engage their services.
CARLEEN: Right.
ELIAS: Just as it is the choice of a shop owner to require you to wear a mask or to refuse service.
Now, in that, it is insidious, because if you walk into a shop and you aren’t wearing a mask, the shop owner can express to you their preference that you leave, but will you be arrested? No.
CARLEEN: Doesn’t…? Don’t…?
ELIAS: Therefore, in relation to are they actually breaking the law? No. It is a fine line, I agree, and it is very insidious. And this is the challenge presently, is what you do in the aftermath of this mass event, and how you address to it and what direction you move in—me expressing “you” meaning the collective and how you engage now in relation to these factors. I would say that it definitely, once again, is a matter of perception, and in that, about your choices. It isn’t that it is necessarily a law or infringing upon your freedom in relation to the law, but I would say that many times public opinion is stronger than the law, that that many times has more weight than even the law, because in that, it is a matter of what is being followed. Is it a law that you wear a mask? No. A mandate isn’t a law.
CARLEEN: Right. And presidents can’t make the law. Mayors can’t make the law. Governors…
ELIAS: Correct.
CARLEEN: We have a system—
ELIAS: Is it actually a law at this point? No.
CARLEEN: No.
ELIAS: But is it a strong suggestion that is being followed? Yes.
CARLEEN: Yes.
ELIAS: Now in that also it is, as I have been expressing, a matter of moving in directions of cooperation, not matching energy and opposing. People are moving in the direction that they are not because in many people’s opinions that they are being sheep—no, they are afraid. And they may not be afraid any longer of the virus; they are afraid of other people.
CARLEEN: Still?
ELIAS: They are afraid of public opinion.
CARLEEN: Public opinion. Hm. Still—
ELIAS: They are afraid of the backlash.
CARLEEN: Right.
ELIAS: Now; in that, what I would say is, what was created was a very effective and strong fear in relation to the mass event.
Now; in that, it likely will incorporate some time to dissipate that fear, because what has happened is the fear has shifted from the organism, the virus. It has shifted from that to the fear of other people, the fear of public opinion, and what that can do to you.
CARLEEN: Right. Public opinion. Yeah, because—
ELIAS: And how that can affect you. And in that, what is significantly being affected are businesses.
CARLEEN: Right.
ELIAS: Because they incorporate the fear of that public opinion, because that public opinion can damage their business. Therefore, they move in directions of – or to this point, they are moving in directions of – no resistance, because they are afraid of public opinion damaging their businesses.
CARLEEN: Their livelihood.
ELIAS: That includes small businesses, large corporations—it doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter what the size of the business is. None of them are immune from public opinion. And therefore, in that, for the most part, most of them—meaning the vast majority of them—at this point are moving in directions in which they concede.
CARLEEN: Okay. Right. Despite (sighs) evidence—
ELIAS: Even if they don’t believe it, even if they don’t agree with it, they concede anyway because their business, their livelihood, in their perception, depends on that.
CARLEEN: Right.
ELIAS: But in that, that is the challenge and the point, is that it is up to all of you as the public to change that public opinion, to bring it more out into the light, and rather than hiding in shadows and fear, and to address to what are you actually afraid of. There are still many people that are afraid of the virus itself.
CARLEEN: Still. Okay.
ELIAS: This is the reason that I expressed that it is very possible that your solution can be the vaccine. And it is quite astounding that you have moved in the direction of developing that so quickly. That is not an accident.
CARLEEN: No. No. Power to the people, right? (Laughs)
ELIAS: Precisely. I would say that everything about this mass event has been brilliant. The factor that you chose to engage something such as this that would gain the attention of the entire world and would instigate changes throughout the entire world is brilliant, and the fact that you have engaged in a direction of developing a solution so quickly, in less than a year.
CARLEEN: Mm-hm. Yeah. I heard you tell Val that. I share that with everyone. I personally have different opinions, and we have access to you regarding the vaccine and what’s happening. Not that it hasn’t been any less traumatic for me personally.
ELIAS: And I would say I definitely would not express anything but encouragement to individuals that choose not to engage the vaccine, because they don’t need it.
CARLEEN: Right. That’s my impression, and from—
ELIAS: Because they don’t need that to feel safe.
CARLEEN: Right.
ELIAS: But that there is that point of acknowledgment that there are masses of people that DO need it to feel safe. And the fact that you have developed that answer, that solution this quickly is also brilliant.
CARLEEN: Good news, then. (Laughs)
ELIAS: I would definitely agree.
CARLEEN: And I noticed no one gives Trump credit for that. (Both laugh) I’m teasing. I’m teasing.
Okay. And I know you said probably within the next six months there should be more shifting?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. I know you told an individual three to five years for more extensive shifting, I guess, not really the end, but…
ELIAS: Correct.
CARLEEN: Okay. I don’t know exactly what that means, the end. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: I would say the end would be when you are expressing the completion of this Shift, but that is not immediately on the horizon.
CARLEEN: No, I didn’t think so. It’s been… What’s happened, the extreme, diverse perceptions on everything from candidates to virus to vaccine to fraud to socialism, lies, deception, censorship – it’s… I know my own beliefs and attachments, and then I’ll discuss it with other people, and…We all want to be right, but the thing is… What was I going to say? Like you said, you can find just as many reasons to oppose something as they can, and vice-versa.
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Yeah. Because it comes down to what you create in your reality? Right?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. (Sighs) It’s been quite the year. (Both laugh) Oh my gosh. You said “trauma,” you weren’t kidding. I had a couple episodes, because you know I need to express my energy, and when the lockdowns… it was kind of difficult the second time around. But as long as I can teach my stretch class and go to my zumba, I’m pretty happy. (Laughs)
So, let me ask you a couple other questions. In relation to climate change, I know this Paris Peace Agreement and Biden is… Is that on the right track?
ELIAS: Meaning?
CARLEEN: To be more conscious of the climate change in the environment, will this contribute to that?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. I wondered about that, because I don’t really know that much about it. So many of us haven’t really paid a lot of… You know, we’ve never had to know our laws or what this means or what that means, and we’re definitely becoming more aware. I don’t, so I wanted to kind of… I’ve heard, read a little bit about it and really don’t know the specifics, so I kind of wanted to ask you about that.
Now, should…? You told someone to move closer to water. Now we live in Arizona, as you know. (Laughs) Should we move closer to water? Or…? (Laughs)
ELIAS: Not necessarily.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: And what I would remind you is when I am speaking to an individual, I am speaking to them.
CARLEEN: To them. Okay.
ELIAS: And I am aware that there are different expressions that may be applicable to many people in my conversations with an individual, but there are also many pieces of the conversation that are definitely specifically directed to them.
CARLEEN: To them. Okay.
ELIAS: When I express something such as that, I am speaking directly to that person about their individual situation, not everyone.
CARLEEN: Not in general. Right. Yeah, I’ve heard you say that. I should listen to what you said. (Both laugh) I remember. Okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, with you specifically,—
CARLEEN: Yes?
ELIAS: That would not necessarily be applicable.
CARLEEN: Okay. I do like Arizona, and Mongezi does not want to go back to Florida. He made that pretty adamant. So, I was just wondering. I do try to do whatever part I can with conserving the water within the limits of my ability, because I know it’s an issue that we haven’t really addressed yet, I hope.
Okay. A couple more things: I’d like to talk about Sizwey. And you told me he has a focus in Russia, Germany and Canada. Could I have some details on the Russian? Is it male? Female? Age? Name? Are you allowed (laughs) a name?
ELIAS: (Pause) The age would be 19.
CARLEEN: This is the Russian?
ELIAS: Yes.
CARLEEN: Male or female?
ELIAS: That would be a male individual.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: And his physically focused name is Sasha.
CARLEEN: Sasha. Sasha. Okay. The German focus?
ELIAS: That individual is also a male individual. The age would be 61, and his name is Gerhart.
CARLEEN: Gabhart?
ELIAS: Gerhart.
CARLEEN: Erhart. Erhart. All right. And the Canadian?
ELIAS: Canadian. This individual is 44, female, and her name is Catherine.
CARLEEN: Catherine. Okay. All right. Just I was curious after we talked last time. Is it possible for me in the dream state, if I kind of think of these, to tap in maybe?
ELIAS: Yes. You can.
CARLEEN: Okay. Good. Now that I have a name and an age and… That’ll be fun. And my… Sizwey is doing well?
ELIAS: I would say yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. (Laughs) Of course.
All right. Let’s see. I’m looking at my time. I wanted to ask you: The creation of the basal cell cancer on my nose, which I have had for years, and then probably in the last six months… I remember asking you about sunbathing; an individual said that early morning going out in the sun was beneficial, and you told me not necessarily for everybody because of the fear of the cancer. So, it got redder and bigger, and I went to the dermatologist, and they took a biopsy and said it was basal, and it took a couple of months to take it off. Part of me thinks if I left it alone after the biopsy it would have been fine. Would it have? Or was that up to me? (Laughs) I’m not sure why I created all of that.
ELIAS: And what are you afraid of now?
CARLEEN: What am I afraid of? Oh. Well, not too much, but there’s a little red spot that came back in the same area and I’m not sure what it is, if it’s a blood vessel or… All the information that I read [is] that usually the method that it was done takes it away completely. I’ve actually been doing a little, kind of in my semi-sleep meditation, I’ll think about my nose. And I think you told someone about the method of bringing the energy out and then back and healing type of thing.
ELIAS: Correct.
CARLEEN: And it actually tingles when I do that.
ELIAS: Ah! I would be very encouraging of you.
CARLEEN: Okay. Okay. Was this created to—
ELIAS: And I would also express to you, stop concentrating on it (Carleen laughs) in a negative capacity.
CARLEEN: Right. I was pretty, pretty… in a mood when I took the bandage off and saw the size of the stitches. I know, I know, I was pretty angry—not at anyone except myself.
ELIAS: Stop moving in the direction of mistakes and wrong. [Inaudible]
CARLEEN: Okay. Yeah.
ELIAS: Think about your former president.
CARLEEN: Yes? (Laughs)
ELIAS: You create what you oppose, and you create what you concentrate on.
CARLEEN: Okay. All right. Which brings me to Mongezi and his… He has a nodule in the upper left lung--right, whatever, I’m not sure which side—but he thinks… They have something called valley fever here, which is a fungus, and the doctor thinks it could be that, but he had pneumonia when he was hospitalized to bring attention to himself. He thinks it’s nothing, it could be scar tissue from when he fell off a motorcycle. He does have a cough. What’s your recommendation on this? Stop concentrating on it, particularly ME, or…? He doesn’t seem too concerned about it.
ELIAS: I would say for YOU—
CARLEEN: Yeah? (Laughs)
ELIAS: Stop.
CARLEEN: Right.
ELIAS: Because you are projecting an energy to him.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: It does have an influence.
CARLEEN: Okay. Because I’ll hear him cough, and—
ELIAS: Trust.
CARLEEN: Trust. Trust. (Laughs) Okay.
ELIAS: I know that is hard (Carleen laughs), but I would definitely be expressing that to you.
CARLEEN: Trust. Okay. Okay, Elias. I hear you. All right.
Real quick, regarding Michael: She tripped over a root and did some damage to her hip, and she has some issues with her hands which she believes might be rheumatoid arthritis, and still having difficulty with her hip. Is there anything I can tell her from you regarding that?
ELIAS: Not necessarily.
CARLEEN: Okay.
ELIAS: I would express that Michael is addressing to it and is aware of what is being created. Therefore, there is no actual concern.
CARLEEN: Okay. Yeah. I figured pretty much she was directing herself regarding that. (Elias laughs) We all create things for our benefit.
So, I’ve got a few more minutes. Looking at my picture in a semi-state, how…? Can I incorporate that into my physical reality? I mean, that is my physical reality, but can I experiment?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes. Most definitely!
CARLEEN: Okay. Any advice?
ELIAS: I would definitely be encouraging of you, my friend.
CARLEEN: Okay. I know you always are to all of us. You know how much we like methods. (Both laugh) Especially me and my personality: step one, step two. It’s occurring to me to do that with anything I want, like manifestations or some… I’m always pleasantly surprised when I desire something and it comes. But like with the picture, it’s right there where I can shift it. Same methodology in physical reality?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
CARLEEN: Okay. That’ll give me some thought.
Also, whenever I get ready to have a session with you, I see a lot behind my closed eyes. Like [in] meditation, I see a lot of blue dots. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Congratulations!
CARLEEN: Yeah. I’ve noticed that off and on before, but whenever I see the blue dots I think of you, and “Oh, there he is. He’s touching base.” I haven’t noticed it for quite some time, but a couple of nights ago, when I had already made the decision to chat with you, I saw the dots. And I know you mentioned being friends and just chatting with you in friendship. And I hope that… You are our friend. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Precisely!
CARLEEN: Yeah. Even though we have a lot of questions and sometimes give you the authority, or we believe you have more insight into our energy, so to speak, than we have ourself, although I know you would say otherwise. (Elias laughs) But it’s always nice to chat with you, and I sort of have this prejudice, you know. Sometimes I prefer the non-physical answers. (Both laugh) I AM prejudiced. I’d rather hear you or Abraham or somebody else talk about events, because as humans, it colors our beliefs and our attachments and…
ELIAS: Very much so. I very much agree. And I would say that in that, I very much understand.
CARLEEN: Okay. Thank you for being here for us, and I appreciate the information on Mr. Trump (Elias laughs) and the clarification on the fanatics, because a couple of people, including Mongezi, when I read it he took kind of offense to that, and then another friend that I shared with: “I don’t know if I like being called a fanatic just because I like him.” I like the clarity on that, because sometimes we discern things, we don’t…
ELIAS: I am definitely not expressing that about individuals that like him or that support him.
[The timer for the end of the session rings]
CARLEEN: I know. I know.
ELIAS: But there have been, and there may be individuals futurely, that would be expressing in a fanatical manner in the other direction.
CARLEEN: Right. Right. I hear you. I hear you. Okay, Elias. Thank you. Time’s up. We’ll let Michael come back.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting. And I express tremendous encouragement and support to you--and stop worrying.
CARLEEN: (Laughs) I believe you’ve told me before. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: I believe you are correct. (Both laugh)
CARLEEN: Thank you, Elias. Much love, until next time.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. Until our next meeting, in great love to you, as always, au revoir.
CARLEEN: Au revoir.
(Elias departs after 60 minutes)
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