Frog Imagery
Topics:
“Frog Imagery”
“The Conflict of Rightness: Honoring the Other and Honoring Yourself”
“Bosnian Pyramid Culture”
“Ants”
Friday, September 4, 2020 (Private)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Val (Atticus)
ELIAS: Good afternoon!
VAL: Good afternoon.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what shall we discuss?
VAL: It’s another day of multiple stuff.
ELIAS: Ah! Very well. (Chuckles)
VAL: The first part, I have a few things to ask for Jean.
ELIAS: Very well.
VAL: She would like to know if the ancient Bosnian pyramid culture has a name of Aryans: A-R-Y-A-N-S?
ELIAS: (Pause) Yes.
VAL: Wow! She’s going to be so excited! (Elias chuckles) That’s great! That’s great!
She’s going through a bit of a difficult time, and I tell her it’s the final removal of the “dented can.” And you had that session about the dented can and I think she’s moving through the final part of that. But she says, “Elias, what is the message behind the frog imagery I keep seeing? Especially my cats gifting me with dead or dying frogs. Does it have something to do with the frog-in-the-bucket discussion that we had in the ice cube session?”
ELIAS: (Pause) Actually… Partially, but what I would say is that the imagery of the frogs is an encouragement, and it is a connection. This is an example of those types of connections that you don’t see and you don’t know about, but objectively that are happening. There are other people in places far away from her that are also discovering frogs and in each scenario, they are being a symbol of change – and change in a positive direction, if the person puts their attention there. They are significant presently because the energy presently is so strong. It is incredibly strong and in that, I would say that people will either be experiencing tremendous difficulty or (chuckles) tremendous success and ease. Either what they are doing will be exceptionally easy in every direction and astounding to them, or it will be considerably difficult and miserable.
VAL: Hurdle after hurdle.
ELIAS: Yes. But it all depends on what you are paying attention to. And the imagery of these frogs is an interesting interconnected creation, because some of the people that are creating this imagery also are in places that frogs wouldn’t be (Val laughs), that there’s no water for those frogs to be. And the people that are discovering them are baffled at how these frogs came to be in places where they shouldn’t be, but they are, in a manner of speaking, grabbing the person’s attention.
And thus far, each person that has generated this imagery of these frogs has immediately moved their attention to the frog and then is not paying attention to what was disturbing them. And each person that has been participating in that imagery has had some significantly disturbing experience that has happened, most of them with other people, in difficult conflicts with other people and conflict in anger and considerably aggressive, and then the people find these frogs and their attention is snapped to the frogs and they aren’t paying attention to that conflict any longer. They are focused on the frog, which is a very interesting choice of creation. But I will say that I have been engaged with several people recently, one even yesterday (Val laughs), with this frog imagery, and one yesterday with a frog in the desert.
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They are little inspirational creatures that are being presented. And in that, I would also say that in addition to them being found in unusual places – or the presentment of them can be unusual – they are an excellent choice of a creature because they do symbolize change, because they themselves are an animal of change. They generate such a metamorphosis in their being that they are a living symbol of change. Therefore, they are an excellent choice for that symbol.
VAL: Yes. Are we parallel counterparts, her and I?
ELIAS: You do that on and off. Yes you do, but you don’t always. You have time frameworks in which you stop and then you start and stop and start. And I would say that your imagery is different but yes, when you are paralleling, the subject is the same regardless that the imagery is different.
VAL: Interesting. She wanted to know that also because at this point I’m in the process of manifesting another vehicle, because I got rid of the truck. And a friend of mine, it just dropped out of nowhere, she said, “I’ll help you buy your vehicle.” Which, you know, is a great manifestation for me, and Jean says, “Well I’d like to know if we are paralleling because if I can see those things that you’re manifesting, perhaps I’m in the process of manifesting what I need also.” (Elias nods) So it’s good. Very good! That’s all good!
Okay. Would you say my greatest strength is determination?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: There was an archeologist who was studying for many years the Hittite culture in Turkey. Her name was – I hope I say this right – Vuslat Muller Karpe. Was she a focus of mine? Or is she a focus of mine?
ELIAS: (Pause) Yes.
VAL: Okay. She recently disengaged, and she disengaged the same time period when I first discovered I had the tick fever, and she had a heart attack. There was one day with the tick fever where my heart, it was very painful and I had even like an electrical feeling, a buzzing, in my chest. And I thought maybe that was my connection with her?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: So this is one of the reasons why I have such a strong interest in Hittites?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: So maybe I’ll continue her work?
ELIAS: Perhaps so.
VAL: We even looked alike. I mean, I saw the obituary picture and we had similar facial features. Wow, that’s … (laughs) pretty interesting. (Elias chuckles and Val laughs)
I recently stumbled on a lady and she lives in Berlin. Her name is Hara Katsiki and she does a modality called QHHT, where you undergo hypnosis and it brings forth regressions and what have you. When I first stumbled on her I felt such a strong connection, almost the same intensity that I had when I discovered that there were pyramids in Bosnia. And there was, there is this pull that, “You have to contact this person. There is something that you need to share with her, or you guys are connected, or she is part of your next step, or what have you.” Is that a… Can you validate that?
(Elias nods) Okay. We have focuses together?
ELIAS: Oh yes.
VAL: And we were healers together?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: In Egypt?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: Okay. So I shall follow my intuition and go to Berlin.
ELIAS: Very well.
VAL: At this point in time, travel is a bit limited but I am going to contact her before and talk with her.
ELIAS: Excellent.
VAL: Wow! That intuition’s something now.
ELIAS: I agree.
VAL: One thing I’ve discovered is as my awareness has increased, is you can’t discount anything that is presented. I mean, it’s—
ELIAS: I very much agree.
VAL: It’s like following a path, and pieces of information drop right in front of you and you’d better pay attention. (Elias chuckles) Okay, I will talk with her and we’ll see what happens. Because I think she may help me with the Voynich manuscript, with decoding that. And that’s one of my goals before I move into the next level. So…
Okay. I have a friend in New Mexico. Her name is Mary Ann. I’ve not ever asked about her, but we are quite connected and she is expanding and I think that I’ve helped in that direction. She reminds me so much of Marij. Are they counterparts?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: They’re the same size. They look the same. And this Mary Ann, is she a Sumafi/Milumet?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: And she’s an intermediate?
ELIAS: Correct.
VAL: And emotional.
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: And dispersed.
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: Okay. Very good.
About three or four nights ago I walked out on my deck and there was an animal that was making noise in the edge of the woods and it sounded a bit like a fox. And so I started talking to it and I said to it, “You know, everything’s okay. You can go back to your home now. It’s fine, you can go back to your home,” and it immediately left.
And then yesterday I was doing something and I had this drop-in that it could be Bonnie. Was that…? Was it indeed her? (Elias nods) Is she now a fox? (Elias nods) Because it was like this creature was saying, “Recognize me. I’m here.” And then I started talking to it and then it was gone. It left immediately. (Laughs)
ELIAS: Congratulations.
VAL: Wow! All kinds of good stuff in this session.
ELIAS: I agree. And what did you feel?
VAL: When I was talking to her?
ELIAS: And after.
VAL: At first I am… It’s going through my thought, you know… Well, immediately I had the push to go out and talk to this creature. And it didn’t really dawn on me until really yesterday, it dropped in, and I’m thinking that’s imagery, what’s that imagery? But the ability to communicate with that animal and for it to understand, it gave me the impression that that’s one of my gifts.
ELIAS: Correct.
VAL: It’s just like when I worked with horses, I could do things other people couldn’t do. And I really didn’t have any idea how I could do it, but I did. I just knew what they were… what they wanted or what they were thinking or… (Elias nods) Okay.
ELIAS: Congratulations. That is actually tremendous.
VAL: Yeah. And recently I’ve been noticing, like everybody else obviously, energetic surges. But I think there’s… This might be a little bit different because it feels like there is a connection. There is a connection to a future focus that is attempting to communicate, but not in this dimension. Am I correct?
ELIAS: Yes!
VAL: Would this future focus be in the Octurian Star area?
ELIAS: Approximately, yes.
VAL: Because I was sitting under my tree many years ago in the desert in about 1996. I saw these light ships. And at that point in time I wasn’t as aware, but I knew that I was the only one seeing them and that it was almost like they were signaling me, like as a communication: “Hey, we’re here!” And it just kind of drifted by. And the other day I was sitting under the tree and I was meditating, and I was having an emotional day. So I said… And I felt the presence of somebody and I said, “I need a little energetic help here, wherever you are.” And man, it just came in immediately, and I’m thinking, “Oh my gosh!” That connection hit me, that what I saw in the desert and this energy that I’m feeling is one and the same. So it’s a future me that’s very interested in the shift?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: Okay. So maybe I can communicate with this future me—
ELIAS: You can.
VAL: —as we move forward. I mean, in a sense I just allowed. I got really quiet and I just asked for that energetic support. It just came up in a snap of a finger.
ELIAS: Congratulations again.
VAL: We’re moving! (Both laugh)
When I feel some energetic interactions, I feel it a lot on my right side in the orbit of the eyeball and in the right hemisphere and what have you. Is that my preference? Or is…? I mean, it will evolve to the left, but it’s first introduced on the right.
ELIAS: That is understandable. What is unusual is that you know it, objectively. But what I would say to you is that the reason it is understandable is because that is the manner in which you function. This is the reason that when people have trauma, we engaged together to move that trauma from the right hemisphere of the brain to the left, because that is the part of your brain that you initially register experiences. That is the part of the brain that creates the associations. And the association, remember, is simply an evaluation of the experience, labeling it good, bad or neutral, and then giving it the intensity of the good or the bad. And in that, if it is significantly bad or trauma, or even severe trauma, then that hemisphere of the brain locks it. Because that part of your brain is responsible for protecting you, and in that, then it locks the experiences to protect you. And then that is the process that you move through to unlock them and move them to the other hemisphere of the brain.
Because in that, the left side of your brain is the more analytical part of your brain. The right side of your brain is more the emotional side of your brain but also the center for directing feelings, those signals, and it is the part of your brain that generates warnings and protection. It warns you to danger and it protects you, or it generates certain actions that block memories to protect you. The other hemisphere of the brain is more neutral and in that, it is the more intellectual, the more analytical, the more mathematical. And therefore, when you move a trauma experience to the left side of the brain, it neutralizes it.
But that is what naturally happens with all experiences, other than experiences that your physical brain has blocked. Naturally what happens, the process that naturally occurs is that you input an experience and the right hemisphere of your brain takes in that experience, registers that experience, labels that experience, generates the signal that will accompany that experience, and then it sends it to the left side of your brain, in which that side of your brain would store it and hold the memory.
The memories are only held in the right side of the brain if they are traumatic and they require being locked. Your body consciousness doesn’t automatically save memories on the right side. Memories are saved on the left side. But it is interesting that you are aware—
VAL: Very.
ELIAS: — objectively, that the information and the experiences are being registered in the right side of your brain.
VAL: This has occurred since I’ve visited Bosnia, and it’s intensified.
ELIAS: Ah.
VAL: And I feel you in my right ear, in my right ear.
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: And I can be talking to Jean on the phone and you’re communicating. And it’s really helpful to me because it makes me stop and just allow and listen. It’s amazing. (Elias laughs) I like that communication.
ELIAS: Excellent. (Laughs)
VAL: And it’s going to come in handy as I move into being the bridge.
ELIAS: Yes. Definitely.
VAL: I think the three themes, at least for me, in this point in time, interesting point in time that we are experiencing, is acceptance of self, trust, and presence. If one can – especially myself – if I can do that, then the idea of differences or right and wrong, or what have you, peters out. It moves on.
ELIAS: It becomes much less important.
VAL: Right. I think of those three, acceptance of self is like number one. Because you have to be solid within yourself before you can negotiate those differences in other people and be the bridge.
ELIAS: Most definitely.
VAL: You have funneled some interesting sessions my way (Elias laughs) since we last spoke. Miranda was one of them and then Letty was one of them. And there was another one, and I can’t remember what it was, but the gentleman was having a bit of difficulty. He was going to a black-tie affair and that was not his preference, and he was wanting to do the right and wrong thing with this club or whatever, what have you. And you talked about changing perception there, that these other individuals, this is what they enjoyed doing, you know, dressing up for these occasions. And if he changed his perception then that would kind of melt away that conflict and meld, kind of, the cooperation, bring in the cooperation.
But there was one part of that that I couldn’t quite grasp. Did he or did he not go as black tie in that? Or was he following his preference and not go, let the others do their thing with their black tie, and he was going to do his thing?
ELIAS: No.
VAL: He goes with the black tie, understanding, as cooperation?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: Okay, I get it. I get it. This cooperation thing is… It looms large.
ELIAS: Tricky. (Chuckles)
VAL: It is tricky!
ELIAS: But the point of it is always honoring yourself and honoring the other individual also. Honoring both simultaneously. It is never about compromise. Never. It is always about finding that avenue that will allow you to honor yourself and honor the other individual, not change the other individual. And it doesn’t mean you have to agree with the other individual. You may actually think the other individual is wrong because in relation to your guidelines, and what you do, and your behavior, what another individual chooses or their behavior, may be wrong, for you. But it isn’t necessarily wrong for them. That can be very challenging.
VAL: Yes.
ELIAS: And in that, it is an action of finding how you can move in a direction in which you still honor yourself, but you are also honoring the other individual simultaneously. That you are not moving in the direction of your rightness being absolute and therefore making the other person wrong. That is the piece: that you can be right and not make the other person wrong.
VAL: And that’s where the solid acceptance of self—
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: — comes in.
ELIAS: Yes. Very much so. I very much acknowledge that with you. That is correct and that is true. Because in that, without that, it is very difficult to honor the other individual and to not make them wrong. It is difficult to even see how you can honor yourself and hold to your own rightness without making them wrong.
VAL: Yes.
ELIAS: And in that, that is a very important piece because that is what cooperation is.
VAL: I have a ways to go. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: I would say perhaps not as much a ways that you think (Val sighs), that things are changing and they are changing rapidly. And I would say that (pause) people are moving in somewhat of a direction of being tired of upholding their right or their rightness, that it requires so much energy to be right and to make someone else wrong. It does require a lot of energy to uphold that. And in that, people are becoming more focused on freedom than on the conflict.
VAL: Indeed, they are.
ELIAS: And trying, in a manner of speaking, to figure out how to express that freedom: what it is, what it means to them – what it genuinely means to them – and then how to express it. And that is becoming more important than maintaining the conflict of rightness.
VAL: We can see that happening. I looked to the city of Berlin, and within the last month they’ve had several very large peaceful demonstrations, where people from all over have connected and they have been the flame for the rest of the world. And I found that very interesting because they emerged from communism in 1989 as the wall came down, and now they’re carrying the flame for the new. And it’s spread to the U.K., to London, and other locations. And to watch it, what coverage one can get, which is not a lot, but it just made my heart just… Wow! It was quite emotional, because in that I can see the beginnings of people understanding their power, coming together and putting those differences aside.
Now when we’ll do that in the U.S. I don’t know, but I can see it moving in that direction. But I also feel maybe we need a little bit more discomfort before we actually get to that point, but we are moving in that direction.
ELIAS: I agree.
VAL: I feel that along with being the bridge, what goes along with that is the ability to offer information to people. You know, my whole life I’ve kind of been unconventional when it comes to information and the way I look, sort, in the future and how we can do things and how energy works and what have you, and what I find myself… In many ways I just feel like I’m twenty years ahead of a lot of individuals in that type of awareness, but I think that this is one of the things that I can contribute. I can offer information.
And it’s been frustrating for me because I seem like I am constantly (laughs) ahead. But I feel that I have the ability to connect people together with information that they are looking for. Like if one individual is looking for some information, then I’m like a computer: “Oh, I saw that there. You need to contact this guy,” or what have you. Is that part of…?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes, it is.
VAL: And you know I speak these terms to some people about how we can move forward in alternative energies and what have you, and I get like, “Nobody talks about these things.” But I want to talk about these things. (Both laugh) So that’s also part of the bridge?
ELIAS: Yes. Yes. Definitely.
VAL: Okay. And I’ve got some help with that.
ELIAS: I would say that is a very obvious part.
VAL: Yes. Okay. It’s starting to… The puzzle’s starting to fill out, piece by piece.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) Excellent. Excellent.
VAL: I think the last probably six months, four to six months, my awareness has just expanded tremendously.
ELIAS: I would agree.
VAL: And I get to see things that I didn’t see before. (Elias nods) Okay.
ELIAS: I definitely agree and would very much acknowledge you in that. Yes, I would say that your movement, your expansion but also your knowing, your paying attention, your directedness in your attention, is considerably different. It has moved in a considerable expression of evolving tremendously.
VAL: Yeah. I agree. Obviously there is more to do, but we’ll take that one step at a time. And what I’ve come to… The conclusion is, you don’t really have to figure it out. (Elias laughs) It just drops in, like Hara Katsiki. It just drops in. You just need to pay attention to when it drops in and go with it.
ELIAS: Yes. Be paying attention and notice, and yes.
VAL: Because you get the… You get the push. It’s quite obvious if you are awake. (Laughs)
ELIAS: I would agree. (Chuckles)
VAL: Okay. Maybe we’ll talk a little bit about some pyramid stuff, huh? (Elias chuckles) In the previous session we talked about the first [Bosnian] pyramid that was built, and then they followed with others. It was easier. And I never clarified: was the first pyramid in Bosnia the Pyramid of the Sun, the first one that they built?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: Okay. I just wanted to make that clear. My information on the internet has been very well received, so I will continue to go in that direction.
ELIAS: Excellent. Congratulations.
VAL: From all, really all over the world. And I never explained who you were in that. You know, when I ask these questions and I give my impressions, and also your, what you tell me. And people never asked! They just have accepted it and commented on it, and it’s been interesting.
ELIAS: Because the source doesn’t matter if the information is valid.
VAL: Yes. And it’s information that they have never heard before, and they’re very intrigued. Yeah, it’s fun! (Elias laughs)
The population, I know it varied according to natural disasters and disease and what have you, but there had to be a significant population to build these structures.
ELIAS: Oh yes.
VAL: Would it have been like thirty-five thousand or more?
ELIAS: More.
VAL: Wow. So, I… Did they…? I’m sure they were probably aware of the energetic property facilitating agriculture? Did they use that for… to enhance agriculture? Or were they an agriculture culture?
ELIAS: The energetic properties of the pyramid that would enhance that? Yes.
VAL: Were they hunters or were they grain eaters? Or what type of diet did they have?
ELIAS: No, I would say hunter-gatherers.
VAL: Really?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: So they had to cover large areas to feed all those people.
ELIAS: Yes. But in being hunter-gatherers, then they also move in a direction of planting. They aren’t only gathering from—
VAL: The wild.
ELIAS: Yes. They also are planting some food sources that they can sustain themselves with. And in that, yes, there is also a considerable necessity for generating food sources in the wild.
VAL: Yeah. Because was the climate very similar to what it is now there? Or was it more Mediterranean?
ELIAS: I would say that it is similar, yes.
VAL: So they had… They eat meat, in addition to…. Did they have grains?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: Okay. Did they store?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: Okay. (Pause) The types of animals in that time period. Did they actually have like bears, obviously? Let’s speak in terms first of predators to humans. (Laughs) Would bears be in that category?
ELIAS: Not much.
VAL: Like for children? Did children have any…? Was there any issue with children being eaten by predators?
ELIAS: I would say at times, but not necessarily tremendously. This is not a region that incorporates the type of predators that would be a significant threat—
VAL: To humans.
ELIAS: — to humans. And I would also express: remember, the humans have a significant population, and therefore they would be very protective of their young and their young would be enclosed and not exposed to the wild.
VAL: Speaking of enclosed, their dwellings, were they made of stone?
ELIAS: Some. I would say those that were what you would term to be more affluent or more… higher in the hierarchy, yes. But I would say that the average or the main population, the peasantry, would be more in relation to brick.
VAL: Oh!
ELIAS: Brick is easily made.
VAL: With the clay that they had.
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: They had a tremendous amount of clay there.
ELIAS: Yes, and straw.
VAL: Yeah.
ELIAS: And therefore in that capacity, that would be more durable in relation to the elements, and therefore that would be easily manufactured.
VAL: So this civilization, did it spread? Right now it’s Visoko, where the pyramid complex is located. It was probably about twenty miles from Sarajevo. Did it extend that much?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: Wow! That was huge.
ELIAS: Yes. Yes.
VAL: And they were there for many, many years.
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: And when we talk of many, many years, seventy-five thousand years?
ELIAS: Mm, not quite that much.
VAL: Sixty thousand?
ELIAS: (Pause) More, I would say… forty.
VAL: Okay. What types of diseases did they have? Like plague-like disease or…?
ELIAS: I would say that their diseases were very similar to what you have seen throughout your history. For the most part, viruses, organisms that create plagues.
But a plague actually is simply a virus that is rampant. And in that, I would say that before your twentieth century, there were not developments in relation to physicians and medical experiments and discoveries that would affect or would battle, let us say, any type of, any type of virus, any type of dis-ease. And in that, any type of hearty virus or organisms, bacterial dis-eases, any type of organism that was strong could create a plague because that is actually the definition of a plague. It isn’t that it is a specific organism in itself, it isn’t. It is simply that it is rampant and that it is very destructive and destroys a considerable amount of life. And in that, I would say to you that your history is riddled with that.
But that is also very understandable, because you create that type of effect at different times – actually, for the most part, somewhat consistently—
VAL: Interesting.
ELIAS: —as a means of population control. (Val chuckles) Therefore, in a manner of speaking, plagues are almost intentional. They are mass events that, generally, they cull the population. And what they do, generally speaking, is balance it. Especially in time frameworks in which the population becomes very unbalanced in relation to warring factors and conflict between different cultures or tribes. In that, there are certain numbers of a particular gender that will disengage and it leaves an imbalance in the population.
And it isn’t always the male individuals that are creating the imbalance. There have been female tribes also that have moved in those directions, and in that, create an imbalance in which there is more of a male population than a female population because of these factors. And what happens in those situations is eventually you create plagues. You create a mass event in which you create some type of dis-ease that will cull the population and then create a balance. Until the twentieth century.
VAL: Hm. We had an explosion.
ELIAS: And then you created tremendous imbalances, because not only did you generate a significant increase in population but you also created significant wars and significant dis-eases, all of which were creating imbalances without any actual plague. You came close with the Spanish Influenza at the beginning of the twentieth century. That was close to a plague, but not close enough.
VAL: So are we…? As we move forward, are we going to create more balance?
ELIAS: Actually, you already are. Which is also why this mass event isn’t a plague. (See Note 1)
VAL: Oh, we know. Yes. It’s not. It’s a motivator.
ELIAS: Most definitely.
VAL: Yeah. And even though we try to muster the fact that it is a plague, we know that it’s just a motivator. (Elias chuckles) Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
So you know in the tunnels, we’ve talked about the runic stone and we’ve talked about the ceramic structures they have in the tunnels there. (See Note 2) We discussed that they were in the open at one point in time and then they got covered with this river rock and sand. So when they were in the open, what purpose were they used for? Were they used for ceremony or…? What did they use them for?
ELIAS: (Pause) Yes. Rituals.
VAL: And the runic stone itself, was it…? Did it have carvings on it at that particular time, when it was out in the open?
ELIAS: Some.
VAL: So what we’ve been told about those symbols, that they are more recent, is not actually true.
ELIAS: Correct.
VAL: It’s very… They’re very, very old. (Elias nods) Where did those symbols originate?
ELIAS: Meaning?
VAL: Did this civilization themselves come up with the symbols? Or did they…? You know, in consciousness everything is known. Was there another civilization that they were using these symbols and then it came into their consciousness? Does that make sense?
ELIAS: I understand. (Pause) In a manner of speaking, they were their own.
VAL: Wow. So they were the originators?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: And today you know in that region in Serbia, they have the Cyrillic alphabet. Is there a connection between the Cyrillic and the runic?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: Wow! Okay.
ELIAS: It is an evolution.
VAL: Fascinating stuff. (Elias chuckles)
Okay, maybe we should revisit ants. Is there anything else that we need to discuss? We discussed their interconnection and how they know when one’s missing of their colony, and they find that individual and bring it back to the chamber. How do they find this individual? Do they sense it – where this individual is located - to bring it back?
ELIAS: Yes.
Now; let me express to you that another individual in this forum recently asked a question, to give her some piece of information that she doesn’t already know. And the piece of information that I gave to her was that you as humans emanate an electrical pulse through your skin continuously that communicates your being to everything in your environment, not only living things but everything in your environment. You generate an electrical projection through your skin.
Now; ants, which I also expressed, not specifically with ants, but I did use an example of insects and sharks, that these are examples. There are many, many, many species that do this, but these are two obvious examples of different species that do the opposite. That through their skin and antennae, they receive electrical impulses, and that aids them in sensing direction and where something is. Sharks do it with disturbances in the water, with the vibrations in the water and with scents, such as blood. They don’t smell blood. They—
VAL: It would have a charge.
ELIAS: Yes. They sense it through their skin, through the electrical charge of the blood and in that also, the difference in the water. Water is very specific in its density. (Pause) Which is how you create boats, but that is another subject. (Laughter)
VAL: (Laughs) Yeah. Yes.
ELIAS: But in that, there are many, many, many, many different species that sense in the opposite manner of humans. You do the opposite of what most species do. Most species, through their skin, receive electrical impulses from everything around them. Ants do this continuously. They are continuously aware of the electrical impulses that are inputting information to them. Always.
VAL: From their entire colony.
ELIAS: Yes. Yes, from the entire colony. Therefore, they know when one isn’t doing that. They know when that electrical impulse from one is missing and they can follow the void.
VAL: Wow! This is fascinating.
ELIAS: Because they know all of these impulses around them in their entire colony and therefore they know where each one is, because they are receiving the impulses from each one. They know where everyone is. When one dies, that impulse ceases. They aren’t receiving that electrical impulse, that sense, any longer and therefore they follow the void to find… They don’t know where that body is. They have to find it, because they don’t have the pulse that is inputting information to them. Therefore, they simply follow the void and then they find the body.
But humans do the opposite and you aren’t even aware of it. Humans, through their skin, through your skin, you emanate an electrical impulse that expresses your being, your presence, in a manner of speaking. Your being is being communicated to everything in your environment, every moment.
VAL: For the empathic sense, is that what we’re picking up on?
ELIAS: That would be the first piece, the first element, that you connect to and tap into. Yes.
VAL: Wow. That’s really interesting. So they are very interconnected.
ELIAS: Very much so. Yes.
VAL: Their chambers, obviously they have the chamber for the dead and the chamber for brooding young. They store food. Is there any other purpose that they would build a chamber?
ELIAS: Yes. They have chambers for mating rituals. They have chambers for birthing. They have chambers for raising young. They have chambers for social interaction, similar to you building ballrooms.
VAL: (Laughs) Wow! So what type of social interactions do they have?
ELIAS: They simply are interactive. They do a considerable number of touches.
VAL: Like dancing.
ELIAS: It is very similar to a dance, yes. Therefore, the reason that I use the ballroom as a comparison. It is very similar. Therefore, they have chambers for socializing and obviously they have work chambers and tunnels and they have rest chambers.
VAL: Like how much…? Do ants sleep?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: How much would they sleep in a twenty-four-hour period?
ELIAS: Not much.
VAL: Yeah, they are very active.
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: So, do they have a class system? To where you have the – I don’t know if you would call the female a queen, but…
ELIAS: There is a queen. Ants do incorporate a queen, and their structure is very similar to bees. Except that the difference between bees and ants is that other than the queen, they are all equal.
VAL: Wow.
ELIAS: They are all the same. They don’t all perform the same actions or jobs, so to speak, but they all are equal in their status, so to speak, and in relation to whatever their job is. All of the jobs are equally important, but they don’t all do the same thing. It isn’t that every ant that is not the queen is a worker ant. They aren’t all. Some are scouts. Some are teachers. Some are caretakers. Some are caretakers for young. Some are caretakers for dead. They have different jobs, so to speak, but all of their jobs are equal.
VAL: The actual individual or individuals that get to mate with the queen, that would be selective?
ELIAS: (Pause) It is more opportunistic than it is selective. (Chuckles)
VAL: (Laughs) Okay. (Laughs) That’s pretty fascinating stuff. (Elias chuckles) They are quite a society.
ELIAS: I would agree. They are. And very efficient. Very efficient.
VAL: Sumafis. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: Most definitely. (Both laugh) I would definitely agree with that comparison. (Both laugh)
VAL: So we can… So the ancients would watch the behaviors of the ants, and then that was a way that they developed these structures [pyramids]? So were they…?
ELIAS: Look at African ants.
VAL: Huge.
ELIAS: Precisely.
VAL: Huge.
ELIAS: Big. Yes. And in that shape.
VAL: So did the ancients… Were they more interconnected than we are at this juncture with the earth and the ability to sense electrical properties of the earth, and what have you? Because there’s such a precision in how they built these things.
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ELIAS: I would say… I would say yes, but not because they had more of an ability to be connected, but they had less distractions.
VAL: Oh, absolutely.
ELIAS: And therefore they were more focused on their connection with the earth, with their environment. You have much more distractions, and therefore you have moved in a direction in which you have moved your attention away from the environment and your planet.
VAL: There is a disconnect.
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: There will be a move back towards the connect.
ELIAS: There already is.
VAL: Yes. Okay. I can see almost a technological camp, and then a camp that goes back to the connection of the earth. Okay.
ELIAS: But they will eventually meet together.
VAL: Yes. One final question: the tick fever that I had, is that pretty well resolved?
ELIAS: Yes.
VAL: Good. I had a couple of days where I felt a bit rough. And I don’t know whether there was an energetic pulse or what have you, but I almost felt the same symptoms that I did when I had the tick, so I wanted to be sure. But that was this week, about the middle of this week. It was intense.
ELIAS: I agree.
VAL: So it was the energetic? My body reacts that way. I have to stop.
ELIAS: And that is understandable, because when you introduce something considerably intense to the body consciousness, it definitely registers that and it will use it as something familiar.
VAL: Yeah, it definitely gave me that signal. Okay. Well, that is good to know. I appreciate our conversation.
ELIAS: You are very welcome.
VAL: And all of the beautiful insights and validations.
ELIAS: And I express tremendous love to you, as always, and great encouragement in what you are accomplishing.
VAL: Thank you.
ELIAS: Congratulations.
VAL: Thank you for the information in my ear. (Both chuckle)
ELIAS: You are very welcome. (Chuckles) In tremendous affection to you, my dear friend, as always. Au revoir.
VAL: Au revoir.
Note 1: Referring to the mass event of the 2020 covid pandemic.
Note 2: Referring to the extensive excavated tunnels beneath the pyramid.
(Elias departs after 1 hour 18 minutes)
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