Wednesday, September 25, 2019 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jean (Lyla)

ELIAS: Good morning!

JEAN: Good morning, Elias! It’s such a pleasure to talk to you again so soon.

ELIAS: And you also.

JEAN: Thank you.

ELIAS: And what shall we discuss?

JEAN: Well, I was intrigued by the avenue we started to go in the regeneration portion of our last session. And some people from the Elias group, we pulled some money together to have this session and wanted to explore the topic a bit further. We have an hour and fifteen minutes.

And I kind of want to expand upon what you were talking about in Linda (Ruthanna)'s incredible session in July of 2017, where you were saying that it’s not only cell regeneration but connecting in interaction, finding an interest and exploring and reaching for more, more, more, and also going a little bit more towards what you were telling me about diet and exercise and having to make it better, and we strive so hard to be natural that we’re not natural, and this somehow instructs the body consciousness to stop regeneration, and we start doing it with our pets.

And it kind of sounded like this is something we’ve been doing for eons, because you mentioned the word “civilizations.” So, if we go back into the history of time when people used to live much longer, what have we done as a civilization to move us out of the natural regeneration process?

ELIAS: Actually, what I say to you first of all is that there have only been, I would say, a brace of time frameworks that you as a species actually lived longer.

JEAN: Okay.

ELIAS: I would say that in your history, people in general presently live longer than you have, for the most part, in your past.

JEAN: Okay.

ELIAS: Now, what I would say to you about that is that people live longer now not necessarily because of natural expressions. You live longer because of the intervention of physicians, for the most part. Most individuals presently, the average lifespan, the average age expectancy is greater presently because of the inclusion of certain medical expressions and immunizations and medications. That plays a significant factor. There have only been, as I expressed, a brace of time frameworks in your history in which people actually did live longer lives, and generally that was not associated with civilization. I would say that the more you developed civilizations, the more you didn’t expand your lifespans.

Now, I would say that this piece of regeneration, it definitely has not been expressed in association with the development of civilizations.

JEAN: Okay.

ELIAS: I would express that your lifestyles, for the most part, have not promoted that pastly.

JEAN: Okay.

ELIAS: I would say that at this point you are beginning to move in directions that are more conducive to actually engaging that factor of regeneration and not continuing the DEgeneration process, but you are at the very beginning of that, and therefore there are factors that you are engaging that are not necessarily correct, but simply because you don’t know; simply because you don’t know what you are doing objectively. (Chuckles)

JEAN: Well, if we can go into that, that would be terrific.

ELIAS: I would express that you, as a species, automatically move in the direction of more being better—more everything. Regardless of what it is, anything that you think is good, then more of it is better. Which isn’t necessarily correct, especially in relation to this subject. Because that was what I was expressing to you previously, that individuals become almost obsessed with diet and exercise in relation to the idea of holding on to youth.

Now, if you were to actually be considering natural regeneration, what is significant in that is not a matter – which I have expressed this several times – of reversing. Therefore, I would say it isn’t that you can’t alter some effects that have already occurred, such as what you identify as lines or wrinkles. You can, to a degree, alter that by including that regeneration and by genuinely paying attention to certain aspects of your body consciousness, especially your skin, and continuing to significantly hydrate it and moisturize it, which then automatically lends to encouraging the continuation of the elasticity of your skin. This is one of the pieces that you don’t think about, how many actions and things in your life, in your activities, pull moisture out of your skin.

Now, as a slight aside with that, let me express to you at certain times of the year you, in the location that you are in, in relation to certain seasons, will likely notice that your hands become dry, and you might incorporate lotion frequently with your hands. Correct?

JEAN: Correct.

ELIAS: And you also notice certain factors, certain manifestations that contribute to losing the moisture in your hands, not only the air. Correct?

JEAN: Correct.

ELIAS: Such as paper, fabric, wool. Some of the very elements that you use to generate warmth are also manifestations that will draw moisture out of your skin.

Now, I would say you pay attention to your hands, and you notice how dry they become at different times, and you are continuously engaging lotion with your hands – but only at certain times of the year – but even isolating those times of the year when you notice that, you don’t do that with your face. You don’t do that necessarily with the rest of your body. You do it with your hands, because you are using your hands and you are looking at your hands, and you notice with your hands that they are dry. You aren’t looking at your face. If your hands are dry, your face is likely dry also. I would say to you that if your hands are dry, your skin is not simply dry in one place.

JEAN: Everything’s connected.

ELIAS: Correct. Therefore, if one part of your body is dry, all of it is dry. And all of it would benefit from moisturizing.

JEAN: And you’re talking probably several times a day, correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN: The whole body?

ELIAS: Yes. Because what creates these lines and wrinkles is the lack of moisture in your skin. It loses its elasticity. It loses its ability to bounce back, because it doesn’t have that constant moisture, that constant hydration.

Now, this is achieved outwardly and inwardly, both. This is one of the reasons that I advocate that individuals drink so much water, because that is hydrating your body inwardly, which translates to all your organs, to your blood, to your skin tremendously, and then also hydrating outwardly; therefore, doing both. Because the more you continuously are incorporating that moisturizing of your skin, the more it retains that elasticity.

JEAN: Elias, let me ask you, is there a product or a particular oil that is particularly good for most of us? Or is it strictly individual trial and error?

ELIAS: No. I would say that there are many different oils that are effective in relation to the skin and that would be in general effective for most individuals. Some individuals, of course, may have some sensitivities, and therefore everyone would be advised to be experimenting. But I would say that actually most of your natural oils in general are efficient for anyone.

JEAN: And can you just give a couple of examples to perhaps experiment with?

ELIAS: I would say that anything that produces a natural oil in relation to its casing, let us say; therefore, any type of nut, any type of oil that can be extracted from most plant-based formulas, in a manner of speaking. Anything that has a hull or a casing will generally incorporate a natural, oily substance. It doesn’t matter what it is, such as any type of nut or avocados, or anything that incorporates a type of shell, a casing—

LYLA: Like coconuts?

ELIAS: — are manifestations that they have those casings to hold in that oily substance. Therefore, anything in that capacity would be effective and efficient. And of course, Vitamin E. I would also express that different cacti can be incorporated in relation to the liquid that they hold—most of them. Most of them produce liquids that are very similar to the aloe cactus. And in that, those are also very moisturizing and promote regeneration and hydration.

I would express that in this, it is a matter of simply paying attention, that it is what you would express as common sense. That if you notice one part of your body consciousness that is dry because of its contact with substances and manifestations, other parts of your body are going to be the same. That when one part of your body consciousness is dry, that is an indicator that the whole of your body consciousness is actually dry. And in that, to not be looking at the body consciousness in sections—not to look at it in compartmentalizing, but to look at it as a whole and to engage it as a whole.

Also, this piece about more being better: this is a very important piece, because this is so very common with most of you, is you run, and you run 5 miles and it feels good, then 10 miles is better. (Jean laughs)

Now, I am not saying that it is bad to necessarily run 10 miles. What I AM saying is it is a matter of what is the motivation. If you are a runner, per se, and you are increasing your distance in running to a degree because that is a challenge for you, that this is something that you are continuously developing, that is one subject. If you are running in relation to exercise, that you are not a runner but that you perhaps run as a part of your routine in exercising, and you think if 5 miles running is good, then 10 miles is better, no. That is a different subject. And in that, then you are pushing yourself in directions that aren’t necessarily beneficial for you. Or if lifting 30 pounds in weight is good, then lifting 80 pounds in weight is better—not necessarily. If you are doing it because you are a weight lifter or because you are a body builder, and that is your direction and you are moving in directions to be developing in certain capacities, then that is one subject. If you are simply doing it because more is better, that isn’t necessarily beneficial. And those are directions in which individuals injure themselves and aren’t paying attention to their body consciousness.

What I would say in this also is also that when you are simply moving in a direction of being very concentrated on diet and then also being very concentrated on exercise, because you are expressing in the idea of regeneration and you are pushing yourself to be exercising, exercising, exercising, and you are entirely focused on what you are consuming with your diet, what happens is you are becoming more concerned with those subjects than you are with your body. You are more concerned with what you are doing than what that is doing with you.

And in that, individuals then are paying so much attention to those methods that they lose sight of the body consciousness. What you do is you begin paying so much attention to what you are doing and then using that as a measurement in relation to appearance, and are, or become, very focused on what your outward appearance is. And the more you focus on that, the more you aren’t actually listening to your body consciousness. You are simply moving in a direction of what you want in relation to a particular expression of appearance.

Now, the reason that this is actually somewhat counterproductive is because it encourages you in a direction to be thinking about regeneration in the idea of reversal, which isn’t what regeneration is. Regeneration is a natural expression. It is a natural process that the body consciousness is continuously engaging. In that, it is, cell by cell, continuously replenishing the cells that die. Therefore, naturally it continues to move in the direction that it is continuing to replace and replenish any and all of the cells that naturally have expired. But in that, each new set of cells is actually a new set of cells, and therefore your appearance is continuously changing. It doesn’t stay the same. You are continuously growing and changing.

JEAN: Elias, this is a question I have, because you’ve said this before: how it changes may not be in the manner that you would see in the usual expression of aging.

ELIAS: Correct.

JEAN: So, how would it change, if you encountered someone that isn’t pushing or trying to make better? How would they look different than what we’re used to seeing as aging?

ELIAS: What I would say is that you would see them incorporate their basic appearance, but at different times their shape of their body, their shape of their face, their shape of certain features may be different slightly. It would be enough to be somewhat noticeable but not dramatically different – but it will be different. Therefore, at one time framework, let us say hypothetically that an individual’s face may seem to elongate and it may be more of an oval shape than a round shape; or their eyes may seem wider for a period of time, they may seem slightly closer together at a period of time, they may be slightly farther apart at a particular time. The shape of their mouth or their chin, or the shape of their arms or the height of the individual may fluctuate. At one time framework they may seem shorter, at another time framework they may seem taller.

There may be many different types of changes that the body consciousness will display, because it IS changing, because you are replacing cells. Therefore, they are different. In that, that doesn’t necessarily mean that the individual would be displaying the changes that you are accustomed to in relation to aging. What you are accustomed to in relation to aging is in relation to height, individuals tend to shrink. They become shorter. To shape, individuals’ body consciousness shifts, and their weight shifts in association with how they carry themselves. Generally speaking, their weight shifts to be more concentrated in their core than more evenly distributed throughout their body consciousness as it was when they were younger. Why? Because you are less active. Therefore, it isn’t necessary for your weight to be evenly distributed throughout your body consciousness, because you aren’t using it in the same manner that you were when you were younger.

I would express that another factor that all of you are very familiar with is lines and wrinkles. And in that, notice how children don’t have lines and wrinkles. Notice how children, even very happy children that are laughing and giggling continuously, they don’t have what you affectionally term to be laugh lines. Why? It doesn’t matter that they may be laughing consistently and a lot. They don’t develop those lines. Why?

JEAN: Well, we typically just put it down to sun damage and pollution, and you know, typical—gravity over the years, but I know that’s wrong.

ELIAS: I would say other than gravity that those are also factors. But then think about it. A child is also engaged in your environment—

JEAN: Yes. Yes, the engagement and the interaction.

ELIAS: — for years. They are involved with your environment, and they may be exposed to pollution and to air quality that is not necessarily beneficial, and definitely sun. I would say children, for the most part, engage sun much more than most adults, because children play in it.

JEAN: Yes.

ELIAS: Therefore, they incorporate actually more time in direct sunlight than most adults do, but they aren’t expressing those effects or those lines or wrinkles. Why? Because they ARE continuously hydrating, and you as adults are continuously hydrating them. (Jean laughs) Therefore, you are continuously moisturizing them and hydrating them, and they are hydrating themselves. And they aren’t concerned with their appearance; therefore, they aren’t interfering with it, which is the biggest piece.

JEAN: Well, doesn’t that get into what you were telling me about the right brain and the left brain? And if we just kind of trust that the subjective is maintaining the body consciousness, then we don’t use our objective which has enough to be concerned about, to try to interfere.

ELIAS: Precisely. Precisely.

JEAN: And maybe you can explain that differently so that other people understand it.

ELIAS: This is what you do with all of that activity in relation to diet and exercise. And I am not expressing that diet and exercise aren’t important, but you become somewhat obsessed with those expressions. And in that, you are so much paying attention to that that you are not actually paying attention to your body consciousness. You are paying attention to your appearance, not the body consciousness and what it is actually expressing or what it is actually doing.

In this also, yes, it is a matter of what you have learned and what you are continuously expressing. Let me say it to you in this manner: one of the most affecting expressions in relation to interfering with regeneration or the natural process of regeneration is repetition—repetition in a capacity that isn’t necessarily beneficial; therefore, stress.

These are pieces that I will be expressing now that are not necessarily what you think about, because when you think about regeneration you are thinking about diet and exercise and what you are doing in those directions. And you aren’t necessarily thinking about everything else you do, which is ALL interconnected. It doesn’t matter how much you move in a direction of diet and exercise if you are expressing consistent anxiety or consistent stress or consistent expectations. These are expressions that move contrary to maintaining the body consciousness. And they are very significant factors in degeneration, but you don’t think about those pieces, and those pieces are very often expressed in repetition.

Now, let me express to you, what is significant about this in relation to your physical brain and your neurological system is that your physical brain moves in the direction of expressing repetition in the right hemisphere of your brain. That is where repetition is expressed. That is where it is held; that is where it is maintained. That is what the right half of your brain, the right hemisphere of your brain, does. It repeats.

Now; in some capacities, that is helpful and that is useful; therefore, that is the reason that this is a function of the right hemisphere of your brain, is to generate repetition. But it doesn’t discern what you might think of as being good repetition or bad repetition. It simply generates (chuckles) repeats. This is the area of the brain that engages when you are engaging “then” feelings. It is the right half of your brain that is involved in that.

Now; what happens is, in relation to moving things in a direction that are beneficial for the body consciousness, when you are creating repetitive expressions from the right hemisphere of your brain that are not beneficial and that continue to affect the body consciousness in a degenerative manner, what is important is that you move those files, so to speak, from the right side of your brain to the left side of your brain, because the left side of your brain doesn’t repeat. Therefore, it is important that those expressions, those behaviors that are repetitive be moved from the right to the left and therefore in that, be allowed to be held as memory but not continuously affecting you, and therefore not being bothersome, and also not moving in opposition to your effort in relation to regeneration.

In this, some of your greatest enemies of regeneration are stress, anxiety, fear, expectations, holding associations such as not enough (Jean laughs). These are definitely enemies of regeneration, and unfortunately many of them are stuck in the right hemisphere of your brain, which then continues to repeat them over and over and over and over again.

In this, if you are actually actively trusting yourself and your body, then that allows the subjective awareness, which is what actually maintains and instructs the body consciousness in every manner. It expresses that maintenance of every aspect of the body consciousness. And what is involved with the body consciousness? Not only physical functions, not only organ functions or motor functions or system functions, but also memory and associations and communication and emotional expressions and feelings. These are ALL generated by the body consciousness, and they are ALL being directed and maintained by the subjective awareness.

Therefore, whenever you are addressing to something, most of the work is being done by the subjective awareness. Your objective awareness is busy enough, as I have expressed. It is very busy maintaining perception, which is a VERY large job, because perception is creating every aspect of your reality. Therefore, that is considerable in relation to the objective awareness. This is also the reason that you can think about subjects and it doesn’t actually change them. You can be aware of something objectively and you can want something objectively, and it doesn’t necessarily make that happen. Although what I would say to you is that when you become objectively aware of something that is hindering you, the reason you become aware of that is because the subjective awareness has already done most of the work. And once you become objectively aware of it, you are almost through it. This is the reason that generally speaking, when you become aware of something objectively you seem to very quickly move from that point on into a successful direction. Why? Because at the point that you become aware of something objectively, your subjective awareness has already been constructing a new groove in the left hemisphere of your brain, and the construction of that new groove, that new neurological pathway, is likely almost complete.

JEAN: Wow.

ELIAS: Now, what I would say in that is that that doesn’t mean that there is NO involvement of the objective awareness—there is. It doesn’t mean that you do nothing objectively. No; you do. But in that, what you are doing objectively is beginning to move in directions to implement new behavior. The subjective awareness is addressing to and altering considerable expressions with the body consciousness, and the objective awareness is practising in relation to behavior that is new.

Now, that doesn’t mean that you must be thinking about new behaviors; no. You likely will begin generating new behaviors automatically, if you are allowing yourself to relax. Your subjective awareness is doing its job. And in that, you will begin to notice new behaviors automatically. And in that, your job objectively then is to simply acknowledge that and continue to practice it; therefore, not slip back into old behavior. Because regardless of what the subjective awareness does, you still can be moving in the direction objectively of continuing to express old behaviors. That is the stubborn part. (Chuckles) That is the familiar part, moving in familiar behaviors. And how that happens is by following feelings. And that is very easy to do, because you are very, very, very familiar with that.

Remember what I have expressed to you: if you are expressing to yourself that you notice that you are in a mood, you can assure yourself at that point that you are following feelings, because that is what moods are made from. If you are in a grumpy mood, if you are in a bad mood, if you are in a blue mood, if you are in a very good mood, you are following feelings, because a mood is created by that repetition in the right part of your brain.

Without the repetition, you don’t create a mood; you simply are, and then you are free to be in the moment happy or sad or excited or irritated or frustrated or curious. You are free to be expressing anything in the moment. But if you are expressing a mood, you don’t have that freedom any longer, do you?

JEAN: No.

ELIAS: Because the mood is dictating what you pay attention to. And why? Because feelings are attractive. And how does that affect regeneration? It affects it very strongly, because anything that you express in anxiety or fear or ongoing – not momentary, but ongoing – irritation or frustration, many of these types of expressions, they all lend to automatically degenerating, because in those expressions you are instructing the body consciousness to stop functioning naturally. You are replacing the natural functions with that expression of anxiety or fear or frustration or irritation—and I again reiterate those types of expressions of anxiety and irritation and frustration meaning that they are ongoing, not simply a momentary expression, because momentary expressions are natural. Those are communications. But REPETITIVE expressions of these, in which you are experiencing that for longer than a few minutes, then you are moving into repetitive expressions. And in that, you are encouraging the body consciousness to stop functioning naturally and to stop regenerating.

And in that, this is another piece of how you are communicating to the body consciousness in degenerating in a manner that children don’t. And when I say children, I am including adolescents and even into, I would say, your early decade of your twenties, because generally speaking, most individuals aren’t actually moving in a direction of degenerating yet at that point.

But in that, as we were expressing in relation to lines and wrinkles and how children don’t express that and don’t generate that, I would say to you that your expression of worry lines is actually more accurate than laugh lines. Because in addition to the physical component of what affects the elasticity, again it isn’t the repetition of frowning that actually creates those types of lines or wrinkles with your body, your face, but it is that you are targeting certain areas of the body consciousness, namely your face, because you are targeting the area of your body consciousness that is physically expressing, or being expressive of, what you are generating in worry, in anxiety, in frustration, in dissatisfaction, in irritation—all of those expressions. You are targeting the part of your body that outwardly displays that expression, which would be your face.

JEAN: Wow.

ELIAS: Now, when you allow yourself to trust that your subjective awareness and your body consciousness know what to do, and that they move in harmony in the expression of that regeneration, and when you are paying attention to what you are doing—you aren’t moving in excessiveness, you aren’t moving in being obsessive, you are paying attention to your body consciousness and what it is expressing through how it feels but you aren’t following feelings—and you are listening to what your body consciousness responds to naturally in the most benefit, then you will be moving in harmony with that action of a subjective reprogramming, so to speak.

Now, I would ask you the question, If you think about it in this moment, what would you identify as actions and expressions that would be in your estimation now contrary to that allowance of regeneration?

JEAN: Oh, for me personally it is worry and anxiety.

ELIAS: Definitely. And what would it be physically?

JEAN: The manifestations would be sleeplessness and jittery, and the inability to relax.

ELIAS: Very well. Now express to myself, what would you identify as physical aspects, physical actions that you do, that would be moving in conjunction with that, of not promoting regeneration and would be exacerbating those expressions that you just mentioned?

JEAN: It would be allowing myself, because it’s a choice in every moment, to engage the repeat. When it happens, to catch it, to accept it, acknowledge it, let it go. More physically, it is to remember to breathe.

ELIAS: And what else? What would you be doing that would be exacerbating it?

JEAN: Oh. Exacerbating those. For me, I think it’s the feelings, paying attention to the feelings.

ELIAS: Correct. And what else?

JEAN: I’m kind of stumped, because I’m on the spot.

ELIAS: Now; think about it realistically. These are automatic actions. Therefore, YOU expressed that the anxiety and the fear, the not enough, they tend to generate physical expressions with you in which you are restless, you feel anxious, you are jittery, you don’t sleep well.

Now; in that, you are jittery, you aren’t sleeping well, and when you get up in the morning you have a cup of coffee.

JEAN: Ooh. Busted.

ELIAS: Which does what? And you don’t think about it! This is what I am saying. That there are many actions that you do automatically you don’t even think about.

JEAN: Yeah.

ELIAS: Incorporating a cup of coffee, or even tea with caffeine, is doing what? You are engaging a physical action to perpetuate the feeling. Remember: your body consciousness creates all feelings – physical feelings, emotional feelings, they all come from the same source. Therefore, in that, you aren’t sleeping well, you are jittery, you are anxious, and you get up in the morning and you immediately go and make yourself a cup of coffee, which perpetuates what you are feeling. Then you do some actions in your home, and you are perhaps paying attention to – I will use you as an example because you and I are engaging the conversation – you might spend a certain amount of time paying attention to one of your cats that isn’t well, or one of your cats that is engaging some action that you don’t like, rather than one of the healthy cats or one of the cats that is being affectionate. Your thinking, your attention, is already being influenced to be directed in what? In repeat.

Now, how do you help the subjective awareness in an objective manner? This is what I was saying earlier, is that the objective aspect is the part in which you are practicing. Therefore, you are practicing paying attention. You are practicing noticing. This is the reason that I have expressed for now almost twenty-five years (both laugh) the importance of noticing and practicing—noticing, noticing, noticing. There are so many times when individuals are expressing to myself, “Noticing! Why is this so important?” It is important because this is what you aren’t doing. That this is what creates the situation in which you awaken in the morning and you have a cup of coffee, when you are already anxious and jittery and tired. And your expression is, “Of course I have a cup of coffee, because I am tired.” This is precisely the point. You are tired, and you are not listening to your body consciousness. You are moving in the opposite direction.

What I would say to you is, if you awaken in the morning and you are tired, give yourself a few minutes, perhaps an hour, to be engaging some activity, have your breakfast and perhaps express in a leisurely manner for that hour, what you will notice is that you feel exhausted, and you might actually feel as though you could actually sleep. Do it! You likely won’t sleep for very long, but you will actually sleep and give your body what it actually NEEDS rather than moving in a direction of opposing it, not listening to it and doing the opposite of what it is expressing to you.

JEAN: Okay. Elias, we need to shut this down here. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are very welcome. And I would express that if you are so choosing, I would be entirely agreeable to continuing this subject with all of you, if you are so choosing, with our upcoming computer group.

JEAN: Well, that would be great, maybe if the computer group, if we could kind of continue it, because I know people have a lot of other questions that they submitted, but it just didn’t seem appropriate to interrupt you. And this is kind of a good baseline to take off. So, yeah, maybe the next session can be a continuation of this.

ELIAS: Very well. I express tremendous, tremendous encouragement to all of you. And I shall be anticipating our next meeting and a continuation of our engagement of this subject.

JEAN: Thank you, Elias. And thank you to everyone out there that funded this.

ELIAS: You are exceptionally welcome. I express tremendous, tremendous encouragement to you, my friend, and to all of you. Pay attention! (Both laugh)

In wondrous lovingness to you as always, au revoir.

JEAN: Au revoir.

(Elias departs after 1 hour 17 minutes)

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