Session 201804151

Make Something Else More Important

Topics:

“Make Something Else More Important”
“Your Country Is Part of Your Identity”
“The Signal of Embarrassment”
“Your Behavior is Throwing Bombs in Your Home”
“Changing What You Are Paying Attention to Through Intentional Choice”
“Allow Yourself to Be the Human That You Are”

Sunday, April 15, 2018 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Debbie (Tamarra) and Phil (Patre)


ELIAS: Good morning!

PHIL: Ah, good morning Elias!

DEBBIE: Good morning.

ELIAS: And how are you proceeding?

DEBBIE: Wonderfully.

PHIL: Very well. Thank you.

ELIAS: Wonderfully! Excellent.

DEBBIE: Yes. And you can be wonderful and still experience many things that one wouldn’t perceive as wonderful. (Laughs)

ELIAS: I agree. (Laughter) But it is the general perception that matters.

PHIL: Yes.

DEBBIE: Absolutely.

ELIAS: Very well. And what shall we discuss this day?

PHIL: Ah, Elias, I was, have been working since our last sessions throughout the early part of this year, have been working a great deal with not following the feeling. And—

ELIAS: Ah! Congratulations.

PHIL: Thank you. And with what I make… Part of that is what I’m making important, which are generating these feelings.

ELIAS: Yes.

PHIL: And I’ve had some great successes, where I have found myself very agitated with feelings and have been able to ask myself the question, “Well, what am I making important that is generating this and that I am continuing to follow?” and have almost, at least a couple of times it’s magically disappeared. Rather than me having to have a sleep to get over something, I was able to really just shift my whole, my whole perception and made what I was thinking was important, made it unimportant, which allowed me to move through it quite well.

ELIAS: Congratulations.

PHIL: Thank you. I’m very pleased with it.

ELIAS: That is tremendous.

PHIL: I’m very pleased. And there are, I have noticed a couple of things that really, well I’ll say “stick in my craw,” and I would like maybe some additional information from you around what might be going on with me.

ELIAS: Very well.

PHIL: One thing that… And these are things that don’t affect me directly, so this is very challenging to me because I understand that they don’t understand me directly, and yet they generate a great deal of discomfort and agitation within me.

ELIAS: Very well.

PHIL: One would be – which came about recently, as of say Friday – when I found that we were going to be, as a country, the U.S. was going to be bombing Syria again. And I felt a great deal of agitation around this idea that… that my country is indiscriminately, somewhat indiscriminately just… and making excuses for why we’re going in and continuing to perform these types of actions in other countries when our, I feel that our, our intentions are not honorable. They’re not truthful. In other words, they’re not honest, and that we are being deceived around… The general population is being deceived around this type of thing. And it kind of tied into that, is back to this idea that even outside of the bombing, that our country is very much built around ideas of propaganda and deception, and that we deceive our own populace.

And then I see the… the results, when I look at my own children, for instance, who are struggling to… to get by, to create a life for those, to find work, to, you know, find satisfying housing and just get by. You know, week to week, month to month, paycheck to paycheck. And this all ties in, in this idea that we are giving lip service as a country to an idea, to the appearance of being… of being quite excellent, and providing opportunity and all of this, and yet the deception and the propaganda and the dishonesty with which we operate here. And I just find a great deal of, I generate a great deal of feelings around this and I have trouble moving through it.

And so my question is, why is this sticking in my craw? Because it’s not directly affecting me, or affecting me directly. I am comfortable in my own being. I know, and I know that the people like my children are going to be all right. I know that they are making their own way and I know that the… what’s happening with our warlike activities is generating its own changes in the world, so I know that the… Let me say that it’s going to be okay and yet this idea of dishonesty and lack of honor, it really sticks in my craw. And so my question is: What is it that I’m doing with myself that is… that is making me hold onto these feelings, instead of getting the feeling and not following it, and looking at what I’m making important?

ELIAS: Very well. I would say that this an excellent question and an excellent direction. First of all, stop thinking in the direction that it doesn’t directly affect you, because it does. (Pause)

DEBBIE: Hello? (Pause)

[The connection is lost and is re-established]

ELIAS: Continuing.

PHIL: Thank you.

ELIAS: As I was expressing, the first point is to recognize that although you might not physically be participating in the physical location, you may not physically be involved with flying a plane or dropping a bomb, that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t directly affect you. Therefore that is the first piece.

In addition to that… Now, I understand how you are connecting this event and your children and their situation, and it is all interconnected. It is all intertwined, but looking at the different situations and the affectingness of these subjects, in relation to your children – and even the situation with the military and your country and these types of directions – you tell yourself that it will be all right, but you don’t know that. Realistically, you don’t.

PHIL: Right.

ELIAS: And realistically, you can’t express that you definitely know that it will be all right, or that it will all move itself out, or that it will change. Because there are many different potentials and change can happen in many different directions, and not necessarily in directions that you want or that you agree with or that you like.

PHIL: Right.

ELIAS: And even with your children, you can’t actually express to yourself that they will be all right and that they will move through it and that they will move in what you perceive to be positive or beneficial directions.

PHIL: Right.

ELIAS: Because you don’t know that either, because you aren’t generating their choices.

PHIL: Yes.

ELIAS: They are. You want that and you hope for that. Remember what hope is.

PHIL: Yes.

ELIAS: Wanting that outside source to change in the direction that you want, or that you approve of.

PHIL: Yes.

ELIAS: In this, it does affect you in relation to your investment. You are invested in your children and because a part of you is invested in your children, then situations that they engage, the experiences that they have are affecting.

And beyond that, beyond your personal investment – this is the piece about everything is interconnected. Therefore what occurs in different places with different people does affect you. It may not be that your home is destroyed by a bomb, but the experiences that are occurring in other areas of your world are affecting you because you ARE all interconnected. And therefore what occurs in one part of your world doesn’t only remain in that one part of your world. It ripples out in the same manner that you can look at yourself, and I grant you that you don’t actually fully understand or grasp this concept yet, but everything you do is also rippling out and affects individuals in other parts of your world. That is directly affecting them and affecting their choices. You aren’t controlling that. You aren’t creating choices for other individuals, but you are influencing. And other individuals and their choices are influencing you also.

Now, in this, I would say to you that then when you look at the situation from the perspective of yourself and wanting to recognize what you are making important, and perhaps even change what you are making important – but you might not want to.

PHIL: Ah.

ELIAS: It is a matter of giving yourself more information by being more aware, because you might not actually choose to change your perception in some directions. You might, but the factor that you don’t like something doesn’t necessarily mean that you would want to change your perception about it.

PHIL: Right.

ELIAS: Which may be strongly influenced by your guidelines.

PHIL: Ah.

ELIAS: Which form your opinions and your preferences, which are all part of you and what you express and what you do. The difference is becoming self-aware in the factor that you genuinely recognize that your guidelines apply to you. Your opinions, your preferences are valid in relation to you. They are important in relation to you. It is just that they don’t extend to other individuals and that the differences don’t necessarily automatically create conflict. That they aren’t automatically in opposition to each other. That the factor that you don’t agree with something doesn’t automatically mean that there is opposition in those differences. They don’t move hand-in-hand. You make them move hand-in-hand by projecting your guidelines in the expectation that everyone else should be following this also: “I believe this is wrong and therefore it is wrong and therefore other individuals that move in these directions are stupid and wrong, and they should change because they are wrong.”

When you genuinely can see that your guidelines are important but they are important to you and they aren’t suggestible to everyone else, that changes your perception also. But in this, that brings us to the subject of what you are making important and the connection in these events and your children, which it is interesting that you use those two examples in the same question, is that (pause) what you are making important is that you don’t have control. That because you don’t have control, then your expression and your direction doesn’t matter.

PHIL: Ah.

ELIAS: These actions, these events occur anyway. Whether you agree with them or not, whether you think they are wrong or not, whether they are uncomfortable or not, whether you wish it was different or not, actions and choices occur anyway. The world continues to turn and events continue to happen, and because you have no control in relation to that, then it affects you in a manner in which you have this feeling of being helpless and insignificant. That your perception, your opinion, doesn’t matter. Therefore, in a manner of speaking, has no value.

PHIL: Ah.

ELIAS: And that is bothersome and it is even more bothersome when you have been expanding and you have been moving in the direction that you are moving in, and you have been increasing your awareness and believe, for the most part, that you ARE important and that you DO have power and that you ARE valuable.

And what is affecting of you? That struggle, that fight that is occurring within you. That fight between “I am valuable, worthwhile and important, but I also am not. I also am not important and am powerless.” And that creates a conflict within you. And in that, YOU become considerably uncomfortable. And then, what do you make important? The side that is expressing that you aren’t important, that you have no power, that you are insignificant and that you have no value because you are helpless to change (dog barking; inaudible), that expressing that you are helpless, as you can’t change it. And it moves in opposition to your opinions, your guidelines, what you believe and you can’t change it. And that is uncomfortable and frustrating.

And when you add to that stew the factor that you are interconnected and that you are in some capacities experiencing these events, these experiences of other individuals, and that you add into the stew the other piece that in relation to your opinions, you incorporate feelings about the situation. But remember what those feelings are.

DEBBIE: Signals.

ELIAS: What are they?

PHIL: Signals.

ELIAS: Yes. For what? (Pause)

DEBBIE: To see what you’re doing, to see what you are doing in that particular moment.

ELIAS: Yes. They are signals about the statement about what you are doing in the moment. Which indicates where your attention is and what you are doing in the moment. And that doing in the moment, not the feeling but the doing in the moment, is the gauge of what energy you are projecting.

Now; in that, remember: feeling isn’t the gauge because you may be feeling bothered, angry, distressed, bad and you may not be projecting in energy in that direction at all. An individual can be feeling very helpless and disempowered and may be thinking in very pessimistic directions, but may be projecting an energy that is actually moving outward and encouraging someone else, and empowering someone else. It is a matter of what you are doing.

In this, returning to what you are making important, what you are making important is that disempowerment. That you don’t have any choices. That you are helpless to do anything about the situation. You don’t agree with it, and you can’t change it. And that’s what you make important.
And then it is a source of irritation and it is bothersome and it does stick in your craw and it does continue to repeat, to present itself, because you are reacting in the same manner. You’re reacting in the manner of paying attention to and making important what you can’t do, or how helpless you are: “I can’t change the situation with my children and I can’t change the situation with the choice to be bombing another country.”

You are concentrating on what you can’t do and making that important. It doesn’t mean that you move in a black and white direction, that you stop focusing on what you can’t do and therefore are expressing that you are also empowered. No. It doesn’t mean that. It means not that you necessarily generate a different action, but that you recognize what you’re making important and what you are concentrating on, and that you can change your perception — which changes your energy.

Therefore, you may continue to disagree with that choice, engaging bombing another location, you may continue to be uncomfortable with the observation that children are struggling, but change your perceptions in relation to yourself and the importance of what you don’t like.

Now, let me also express that another piece in this is that actions that are expressed such as a bombing, you may not be doing it but you are a part of the country that is doing it.

PHIL: Yes.

ELIAS: And the individuals that are actually carrying out the actions are representing the country that generated the decision to do that. Therefore, in a very direct manner, they are the symbol that is representing each and every one of you, whether you agree with them or not.

PHIL: Yes.

ELIAS: Therefore, as a part of a particular country, the actions of the country are somewhat reflective on you, in a manner of speaking – or let me express that this is what your perception is, that those individuals that are carrying out those choices and those actions are the representatives of the country as an entity, which you are a part of.

PHIL: Yes.

ELIAS: Now, for most individuals, almost all individuals, the country that you associate as your homeland – generally it is the country that you were born in, but not always – but whatever country you associate as your homeland, that you are a part of, that you are a citizen of, you incorporate that in a certain capacity with your identity, with a part of your identity.

PHIL: Yes.

ELIAS: I would express that in relation to your country, it is as much a part of your identity as (pause) the color of your skin. (Pause) When you engage other individuals or you are in a different country, you don’t only identify yourself as Phil or as a man or as white. You also identify yourself as American.

PHIL: Yes.

ELIAS: Because that is a part that you have assumed into your identity. Therefore, when a part of that identity engages in actions that you don’t agree with and that you don’t like and that distresses you, that is threatening part of your identity. Why do individuals become embarrassed? In relation to anything. It doesn’t matter what the subject is. Why do individuals experience that signal, that feeling?

PHIL: They’re feeling misidentified.

ELIAS: Or that something is threatening their identity, for a threat of their identity is that there is something wrong with their identity. Therefore they feel that signal of embarrassment, and the statement of what they are doing in the moment is denying themself. Because embarrassment as a feeling, as a signal, creates a very distinctive reaction. When an individual feels embarrassed, their reaction is to immediately withdraw. You immediately pull away and hide. Why? Because something in their identity is wrong. And that is very threatening, and until they can reconcile what is wrong and correct it, the individual immediately reacts by retreating.

Let me express, as an American, if you were confronted by another individual at the time of the event of the bombing and the other individual were questioning you in relation to what your guidelines are and what you believe, you might be embarrassed in the face of the other individual because of that piece of your identity of your country, that it did something that you perceive as wrong. And that threatens your identity and you become embarrassed.

Now, what I would say to you is that in relation to changing what is important, it isn’t about seeing that action of a bombing as not important. It isn’t about denying that or denying that you disagree with it. First of all, once again, returning to the first step, it is about the first step of acknowledging what you feel and defining it. Because you aren’t defining it generally, you are merely expressing that you are bothered or you are uncomfortable and you don’t like it. But what does that mean to you? Why? “Because I disagree with it.” What do you disagree with? Personally? What is occurring within YOU? Not the idea (inaudible) outside. How is affecting you? And what is bothersome to you?

And I can say to you that you aren’t defining it, because until I expressed that your country is part of your identity, you weren’t thinking about that. It isn’t that you don’t know it, but you weren’t thinking about it. You weren’t defining it. Even though you know that an action such as this is perceived as a direct reflection on you, rather than acknowledging that you immediately attempt to dismiss it and express to yourself that that isn’t true, or you shouldn’t think that, or you shouldn’t feel that, and the actions of your country aren’t a reflection on you. But they are!

You are attempting to force yourselves in a direction of not being human: “I should be above this. I should know better. I should be more aware.” Let me express to you, the more aware you are, the more you can acknowledge that you are human. And human isn’t flawed. It is being aware that you do have these pieces of identity and they aren’t wrong, and acknowledging them and then knowing that you have choices.

It isn’t a matter of that expression being a reflection on you, that that’s wrong, or that you shouldn’t think or feel that because it is wrong. No.

It is a matter of recognizing that, identifying it, defining it, and THEN having the ability to express choices: “Very well, that IS what I feel, that IS what I am experiencing. Now what do I want to do? What are MY choices if I don’t like that type of reflection?” And that is what it is, a reflection. And remember: everything reflects to you. If you don’t like a reflection, then you have choices to change it. And that doesn’t mean that you change the country. It doesn’t mean that you change the choices of other individuals, but you change your perception in relation to what part of your identity do you associate with in relation to your country. All of it? Parts of it? Any of it? Those are choices, and it isn’t black and white. It isn’t a matter of, “I associate with my country fully,” or “I don’t associate with it at all.” That isn’t realistic and it isn’t true. There are parts of your association with your particular country that you do like and that you do appreciate. And there are parts that you don’t. If you genuinely entirely disagreed with incorporating part of your identity as being American, you wouldn’t express that. But you don’t entirely perceive it as bad, or that you don’t accept that as part of your identity. You do.

It isn’t a matter of judging yourself for that, as if that were a wrong expression. It isn’t. It isn’t wrong of you to love your children and wish that they never had to struggle. It isn’t wrong of you to want your children to incorporate a life that is easy and that doesn’t involve conflict, but you perceive that and you think about that as being wrong because you express that it is unrealistic. It doesn’t matter if it is unrealistic. That is what you feel. And your feelings aren’t wrong. They are signals.

And when you acknowledge those signals, then you have more information in relation to your choices. But when you skip that step and you don’t acknowledge your feelings but you rather follow them, then you move down that rabbit hole in which you are continuing to express the feelings and likely give it more intensity, because now it is a then feeling. And that can continue for undefined amounts of time, and it can intensify and lessen and intensify again. And what do you do in the meantime? You keep following it. And then you create a mood, and that is affecting and coloring of your choices, your behavior, your attitude and your perception.

And what does that do? That influences you in what you pay attention to, because then you begin looking for more actions and more subjects that you don’t like, because it feeds the mood.

PHIL: Sure.

ELIAS: Therefore, return to the basics and first acknowledge. Then you define it. And acknowledging it doesn’t mean keep concentrating on it. It means see it for what it is, accept it for what it is, and then move your attention. You already know what the feeling is. You don’t have to continue to dwell on it. You know what it is.

PHIL: Right.

ELIAS: You don’t have to keep thinking about it and repeatedly translating it. You know what it is. That is just repetition and in a manner of speaking, wasting your time.

PHIL: Sure.

ELIAS: Because it isn’t giving you any new information.

PHIL: Correct.

ELIAS: And it certainly isn’t giving you any beneficial, productive choices. What are you choosing when you are in that mood and when you are so bothered? What are you being productive in? You are being productive in being irritated and therefore likely be less patient with the individuals around you, more easily annoyed, unmotivated and in that, constantly looking for any and everything that is not enough or that is wrong.

Therefore, what type of energy are you projecting? The same energy that your country is projecting that motivated it to drop bombs. (Phil chuckles) You are doing it in your home. Your behavior is throwing bombs all around you in your home.

Or you could acknowledge what you are feeling, define it, not judge it, give yourself information in relation to whether you want to feel this or not – because you might want to. And when I say that, I am being quite literal because at times individuals might use that type feeling to motivate them in the direction of their preferences and of their opinion and of their guidelines. It might influence them or motivate them to generate actions. Sometimes when individuals are angry, they are motivated too. More often when you are following feelings you are not motivated to do. You are motivated to continue to look for what feeds that feeling, and that mood. And then you are unproductive, especially in relation to what you actually, genuinely want.

But in that, once you have acknowledged and defined the feeling, then it is a matter of recognizing, “Now is the point I have choices. What do I want to be? What do I want to do? What do I want to feel?” And then doing something different. Thinking about it doesn’t change it, DOING changes it. And the doing might not be anything physical. It might be doing in relation to changing your perception. And changing your perception doesn’t mean finding something good in something you don’t like or that you don’t approve of or that you don’t agree with. You don’t have to find something that you like in that.
But changing your perception by making that particular thing less important, by expressing something else being more important, “I don’t like this, I don’t agree with this, but my expression of being with my family and appreciating them or holding them is more important because that is the energy that I choose to engage. I acknowledge that there is aspects of my identity that I define in relation to my country and my association with it, and I am also generating a distinction that I am not doing those actions. But I’m also not doing them in my home.”

[The timer for the end of the session rings]

ELIAS: “I am not choosing to explode bombs in my home and reflect the bombs that are exploding in other countries.” Are you understanding?

PHIL: I… Yes, I am.

ELIAS: Are you questioning?

PHIL: I’m trying to see how I would move, how I would generate actions in specific situations that would be different, that would be more satisfying. Yes, I’m trying to see how this all fits with how I—

ELIAS: Remember: it might not be necessarily an entirely different action. You might not choose to physically generate a different action. It is the perception that is the most important and what you are paying attention to. Therefore, what you are making important.

Therefore, you aren’t minimizing your opinion. You aren’t minimizing your guidelines in relation to your disagreement with a particular action and choice. But you are intentionally choosing something that is more immediately important to you.

Therefore in your immediate reality in that subsequent moment, you might be looking around the room and observing your partner and moving your attention to her, and merely watching her and appreciating that. You aren’t necessarily doing a different physical action. What you are doing is you are changing the importance. (Pause) You are shifting it. You are not saying to yourself, “This is entirely unimportant,” because it isn’t entirely unimportant to you. Therefore attempting to do that is denying yourself. You aren’t necessarily moving in that direction, but what you are doing is altering your perception by altering what you are paying attention to.

If you are looking at your partner and appreciating her and expressing how grateful you are that you have the relationship that you do with this individual, you aren’t necessarily doing a physical action. But you are moving your attention and acknowledging something else that is equally if not more important to you. Or it may be equal in importance, but it is more immediate. It is more in your physical reality that you can engage with your senses in the moment. Therefore, you are making that more important.

Because what is there additionally for you to engage about the other subject?

PHIL: Nothing.

ELIAS: Well, there are many things you could do but realistically speaking, you don’t want to.

PHIL: Right.

ELIAS: Therefore yes, nothing. Therefore it is the evaluation of: “Not that this isn’t important, but it isn’t moving me in any direction that is beneficial or productive to me. Therefore what is equally as important to me that is satisfying?”

PHIL: Yes.

ELIAS: Because that is a choice. It isn’t that you are ignoring the other or that you are expressing that it isn’t important at all. What you are doing is generating an intentional choice of what you want to engage, how you want to express yourself, what you want to pay attention to. You aren't denying that that action happened. You aren’t denying yourself, that it isn’t important to you. You aren’t denying yourself, that you don’t like it and you disagree with it. But you are acknowledging that you aren’t interested in actively doing something about it. Therefore it isn’t a benefit to you to dwell on it. (Pause)

This is the point, my friend. It isn’t about turning something you don’t like into some unrealistic fantasy in which now you find some butterfly in the midst of the rubble. (Phil chuckles) It isn’t about necessarily generating some action about it. You don’t have to do about it. It isn’t even necessarily about changing what you are doing physically. It’s simply a matter of changing what you are paying attention to through intentional choice: “I don’t like this. Therefore it isn’t a benefit to me to continue to dwell on this, if I am not using it to motivate myself to do something proactive that is my choice or that is more comfortable for me or that is in alignment with my guidelines, then why am I concentrating on this?”

PHIL: Yeah.

ELIAS: “I am not changing it, and what I am accomplishing is placing myself in a miserable position. And then I am using that reflection not to give myself information about what I am doing, but rather to encourage myself to do the same thing.”

PHIL: Hm.

ELIAS: “I hate that they exploded a bomb. I hate it so much, I will be miserable all day and I will explode my own bombs all over the house.” (Phil laughs) “And don’t dare come near me because I will be in a foul mood and I will likely be argumentative and I will likely not want to listen to you. And don’t dare come near me and express in any positive capacity whatsoever, because that I will use as target practice.”

PHIL: Yeah. (Laughs)

ELIAS: “Because I am definitely in a mood to be bombing and shooting everything around me.” (Phil laughs) “Therefore if you are smart, you will stay far away from me.” Is that who you want to be? Is that what you want to do? If it is, then by all means do that.

PHIL: (Laughs) Right.

ELIAS: If it isn’t, then be aware of what you are doing and that that is equally as much of a choice as doing something different. You are choosing that mood. You are choosing to follow that feeling. You are not necessarily intentionally choosing it, but you are choosing it nonetheless.

PHIL: Right. (Sighs) Thank you very much, Elias. This… So much here helping me define, because as I’m sitting here ruminating over these various things as the days and weeks go by, and I am trying to look at myself and see what my own mental movements are, you’ve really helped me define that. I will be listening to this session again and…

ELIAS: What I would say to you, my dear friend, in all genuineness is stop trying to deny these feelings and these perceptions. Stop trying to deny yourself, that it isn’t affecting you or it doesn’t affect you. Yes it does and yes it is. Stop trying to fit yourself into a mold of being not human, that you have feelings, you shouldn’t have opinions, you shouldn’t have preferences in certain manners, you shouldn’t be expressing that you don’t like something or that you think something is wrong because you aren’t human and you aren’t actually in this reality. You live in a reality in which duplicity isn’t a belief system. (Phil laughs) No, you don’t. And in that, it is much easier and much more satisfying to acknowledge that and to allow yourself to be what you are.

Let me express to you: a lion doesn’t question what it is when it attacks and kills and eats an antelope. It isn’t questioning itself and expressing, “Was that the right action to do?”

PHIL: I hear you.

ELIAS: “Perhaps I shouldn’t be eating this antelope.” (Phil laughs) “I wonder if it’s wrong. Another lion might not eat this antelope. Maybe I shouldn’t eat this antelope either. Hippos don’t eat antelope.” (Phil laughs) “Perhaps I should try just being a hippo.”

PHIL: (Laughs) I think that’s—

ELIAS: No. A lion merely puts the antelope in its sight and it runs, and it attacks the antelope and it kills the antelope and then it eats the antelope. And then it lies around feeling fat and satisfied. (Phil laughs) And it doesn’t try to be a hippo. It is satisfied being a lion.

You are a human. It isn’t better to be a giraffe than being like you are. And in that, there is nothing wrong with being a human, and it isn’t less spiritual than being a whale. Allow yourself to be the human that you are and acknowledge that, because you are a wondrous, beautiful, glorious, amazing creature. Think of yourself as a human with the same reverence and respect and awe as you look at a whale with, for you are equally as awe-inspiring.

PHIL: (Sighs) Wow. Thank you. I think that’s a page right out of my partner’s careful and cautious handbook as well.

ELIAS: (Laughs) I express to you, my friend, you are wondrous, glorious, creative, imaginative (inaudible) creatures, and you have endless vistas to explore. Therefore be you and explore.

PHIL: That’s wonderful advice. Thank you so much, Elias.

DEBBIE: Thank you.

ELIAS: You are exceptionally welcome, my dear friend. I would express that this was an excellent conversation and I would also express thank you for those exceptional examples. I am tremendously encouraging of both of you and offering my energy to you in wondrous support every moment. I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting and your accomplishments. (Chuckles)

PHIL: Our dear friend.

DEBBIE: Much love.

ELIAS: In glorious lovingness to each of you, as always, and dear friendship—

DEBBIE: Au revoir.

PHIL: Au revoir.

ELIAS: Au revoir.

(Elias departs after 1 hour 18 minutes)


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