Seeing Other Energies, Energy Fields and Other Focuses
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“Seeing Other Energies, Energy Fields and Other Focuses”
“Differences between Dreams, Waking States, Projections and Lucid Dreaming”
“Fearless Projecting”
“Evil Is an Invented Explanation”
“The Power of Trust”
Monday, April 15, 2013 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Helmut
ELIAS: Good afternoon!
HELMUT: Good afternoon! Hello.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And what shall we discuss, my friend?
HELMUT: I think for me it's important to, you name it, get validations, and…
ELIAS: Very well.
HELMUT: Because I had some experiences and I would really like to validate them.
ELIAS: Very well.
HELMUT: The first thing that happens to me is that I have visitors when I'm waking from sleep, and it looks like light—small light dots forming an entity. And for me, it's important. What do you think about that? Is that a dream, or is it…?
ELIAS: No, it is not a dream. And I would express congratulations, for I would express that this is an indicator that you are generating more of an openness, or an openness enough to actually see other energies that are present.
HELMUT: Yeah. So, it’s kind of having a wider attention to details that are normally blocked out.
ELIAS: Yes.
HELMUT: Ah, okay.
ELIAS: I would express that at this time, when you are awakening, the reason that it may seem more prevalent at that time is that you are more relaxed, and therefore it is easier to be allowing yourself to connect, that you actually visually see these other energies. I would express that what you are doing is very similar to what animals do naturally. Animals see other energies visually and are aware of other presences. They do this very frequently and very naturally, and what you are allowing yourself is to also see other energies.
HELMUT: Yeah. In my experience, the most time that this is happening is after meditation where I was very relaxed.
ELIAS: Yes.
HELMUT: So this fits very well. The only thing is that I'm scared, and I say always “Where are you again?”
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would express to you, my friend, it is not necessary for you to be frightened, for there is no harmfulness that will occur in this type of situation; it is merely that you are allowing yourself that awareness to connect with other energies. And they are always present, whether you see them or not. (Helmut laughs) And in that, no harmfulness befalls you when you do NOT see them, and you can remind yourself of that, that it is no different than the time frameworks in which you do not see them—they are present regardless. And in this, it is merely that you are allowing yourself to actually see what is around you.
HELMUT: Wow. Yeah.
ELIAS: It will not be harmful or hurtful to you, and in that, I would express that these other energies are equally as curious about you as you are about them. (Both laugh)
HELMUT: Okay. And is this experience related to sometimes if I have a deep discussion with another individual I can see energy structures on the face off this person, or even whole face changes to other individuals?
ELIAS: Now that is slightly different, for what you are doing is connecting with the energy of that individual, and in doing so, dependent upon how deeply or strongly you are allowing yourself to connect, you may either be seeing different aspects or configurations of that individual's energy field, or you may also be seeing other focuses of that individual superimposed upon their form.
HELMUT: Yeah.
ELIAS: Which, I would be congratulating you in that action also, for that it requires a considerable openness and definitely paying attention, for most individuals do not allow themselves to actually see that.
This is, in actuality, quite an interesting action that you are allowing yourself, for in actuality, this is an example and evidence to you that with every individual in relation to the focuses that you manifest in physical reality, you see one—you see one of yourself, you see one of other individuals, for there is that element of separation that is a part of the blueprint of your reality. But in actuality, as time is simultaneous, it is merely your perception of time in one particular focus that creates that illusion of linear movement. In actuality, time being simultaneous, ALL of your focuses are present simultaneously with you, and they are all different manifestations of you. Therefore, in any given moment you could be viewing another individual or even yourself, and see those fluctuations of energy and see actual different manifestations—many different forms, many different faces, for they are all present, for they are all you.
HELMUT: Yeah.
ELIAS: And this is what you are doing. At times, if you are connecting more strongly to an individual and you are genuinely paying attention, you can see their energy field, which will present itself in different manners—generally it will also include colors—but you can actually visually see beyond that and begin to see the other manifestations of that individual also, superimposed upon their present physical manifestations.
HELMUT: Yeah.
ELIAS: That is unusual.
HELMUT: Yeah, but it makes sense for me, yeah? Also, I thought it may be sometimes a psychic structure, something like a subpersonality or something, but I also thought focus is also a possibility.
ELIAS: I would say that in relation to seeing the individual's energy field, in a manner of speaking yes, that would be what you are describing, not when you are seeing other faces or forms.
HELMUT: Ah, okay.
ELIAS: But when you are seeing some distortion of the individual, it can appear that the individual seems less solid, or you can visually see them as being, in a manner of speaking, wavy. (Helmut laughs) Or you may see different colors that either seem to be superimposed upon the individual or surround the individual—in either manner, it is the same. And those are indicators of what energy the individual is projecting.
HELMUT: Yes, okay.
ELIAS: Therefore, I would express that while you are interacting with another individual, that can be, in actuality, considerably instructing in relation to what the other individual is doing while you are interacting with them, for their energy field reflects that.
HELMUT: Yes.
ELIAS: Also, watch that energy field how it extends and recedes.
HELMUT: Ah, okay.
ELIAS: For in this, while an individual is interacting, the more they are expressing connecting with you, that energy will extend outward from their body consciousness and it will gravitate to you. It will move towards you, for it is connecting with your energy field and attempting to actually intermingle. Or if the individual is shielding or defensive or blocking, you will notice that their energy field remains very close to their body consciousness and will not extend outwardly.
HELMUT: Ah, okay.
ELIAS: Generally speaking also, if you are noticing colors in relation to those actions, when an individual is shielding or defensive the color will be somewhat darker. And in this, when an individual is more open and connecting, the color will be brighter. Not that it will be a darker COLOR, per se, such as if the individual was projecting of red, let us say, as an example, in this it is not that they would begin projecting a brown—a darker color—but they would create a darker shade of that red if they are shielding; whereas if they are projecting and connecting and expressing an openness, that red will become much more vibrant and bright.
HELMUT: Okay. Cool! As you have explained with things, I had some impressions, and one impression was that I experimented very much with dreams. And so I fall asleep in a dream, and a certain point the dream was again so real, like this now, in this moment, but I was someone completely different, like an old man or a young child or whatever. And I think is this what you are talking about with other focuses?
ELIAS: Yes.
HELMUT, Ah, okay.
ELIAS: Definitely. I would express a tremendous acknowledgement of you, my friend. You are allowing yourself considerable movement! (Laughs)
HELMUT: Yeah. I think so. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: And some interesting experiences.
HELMUT: Yeah, definitely.
Then I understand your expression that they have their own timeline, so this old man has a whole lifetime, the young child has his own time, and if I wake back here I'm on another timeline. But I can live in the dream, I can live 80 years and I can die and come back here, and it's all parallel in a way.
ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, for you can experience living 130 years, and you can return to this physical body and this physical focus and experience the lifetime in THIS focus also.
HELMUT: Yeah. So, we could say this is also a dream in a way, it's just—
ELIAS: No. It is not a dream—it is a projection. There is a difference. Dream imagery will appear differently to you. Now, at times you may be connecting with another focus in dream imagery, but it will be configured more abstractly. It will not configure itself in the manner as you actually being that other individual and following a linear time pattern in the same manner that you do in this focus and experiencing similarly to how you experience now, merely presenting yourself with different imagery. In dreams, dreams are the objective translation or imagery of subjective activity. Therefore dreams, very similar to waking state, are very abstract, and the difference between dreams and waking state is that there are two factors that are considerably relaxed in dream imagery: one is time, and the other is your beliefs.
Therefore, it is not that your beliefs are suspended, but they are considerably relaxed, which allows you to generate different types of imageries that you would not necessarily allow yourself in waking states, such as a very simple example of flying. But in dreams, what IS similar to waking states—for it is an objective action—is that the imagery is abstract, for it is a translation. With a PROJECTION, you experience very similar to how you experience in waking state, therefore time does not fluctuate back and forth or become suspended. You actually experience another focus—or another action, for you can be projecting in your own time framework, not necessarily in conjunction with another focus—and you will be experiencing that in the same manner that you experience your waking state in THIS focus. This is a significant difference that indicates that it is not a dream, it is a projection that you are generating.
HELMUT: Okay. So if I say, for example, this old man, if I experience a straight timeline and a straight following of experiences and not so much fluctuating, I would say it's a projection. And if it's very floating and changing very fast, it would be more dream state, right?
ELIAS: Yes.
HELMUT: Okay. So, a projection would be more solid.
ELIAS: Yes. Although I will express there are times you can be creating dream imagery to be considerably solid, especially if you are generating what you now term to be lucid dreaming in which you are aware. But in lucid dreaming you are aware that you are dreaming, and in that, the most significant difference between lucid dreaming and other expressions of dreaming is that you not only are aware that you are dreaming, but you incorporate the ability to manipulate the dream BECAUSE you are aware.
HELMUT: Yes.
ELIAS: Therefore you can change it, but this is different from projections. In this, the aspect of time is the most significant difference and indicator, for even in the action of lucid dreaming, time is suspended. You allow yourself to move backward and forward in time very spontaneously, and even if you are not moving backward or forward in any dream sequence, time does not seem to be a factor, regardless of what you are doing—there is no specific time that you attach to whatever dream imagery you are creating.
HELMUT: Interesting.
I have another impression to talk about that’s very similar, maybe, about lucid dreaming, because I was also playing around with that. And in that special dream I was a dot or something like 360-degree perception or however you describe it, and there was a planet and I was going to this planet and going into an individual. And the deeper I got into this individual, I recognized that I could feel and I could remember and I could eat and I was bleeding, and everything got more solid and solid. And at the last point I even forgot that I was this 360-degree dot. So, this was a very shocking dream after I awoke.
ELIAS: And what would your assessment of this be?
HELMUT: For me it's like…My big question is, where did the world come from? (Both laugh)
ELIAS: Now; once again, first of all, recognize this also was not a dream.
HELMUT: Okay.
ELIAS: This also was a projection.
HELMUT: Okay.
ELIAS: But in that, it may seem somewhat different, for what you did was allow yourself to project outside of this known reality, meaning this known reality in association with your planet—not outside of your universe, but outside of your planet. Which, I would express to you that your method for doing that was quite creative, that you chose to be creating this expression of a dot to transport yourself, therefore giving yourself a method for transport, in a manner of speaking, that would be acceptable to you and would not be frightening.
HELMUT: That's true.
ELIAS: An in that, allowing yourself to project beyond your planet and connect with another planet and another manifestation—another focus, but not in relation to THIS planet. In this, you remained in this dimension but away from your known reality, into another reality that you also incorporate focuses in, which is HIGHLY unusual. (Helmut laughs) For most individuals, if they allow themselves to project and connect with other focuses that are not connected with this planet in this reality, generally speaking they project in relation to other-dimensional focuses.
HELMUT: Oh, okay.
ELIAS: For that is, in a manner of speaking, in most individuals' perceptions safer, for they are projecting into another dimension which is entirely removed from your dimension. Therefore, there is no crossing of dimensions, and in that, when they project to other focuses in other dimensions, it creates this sense of being safer. When you project to another reality within your own dimension, that is somewhat more bold and daring, for the perception is that there is a possibility that you could actually do that physically and you could actually objectively physically encounter one of these other focuses, for you occupy the same dimension.
HELMUT: Oh, okay.
ELIAS: But in this, I would express once again an acknowledgment of you that you are allowing yourself this openness and this fearlessness to attempt these types of projections and generate these types of connections, for it is unusual for individuals to be exploring other focuses that actually occupy your physical dimension. This planet is not within your galaxy, but it is within your known universe.
HELMUT: Okay.
ELIAS: Congratulations!
HELMUT: Wow! (Both laugh)
ELIAS: Quite the EXPLORER, are you not?
HELMUT: Yeah, I think so. (Elias laughs) Yeah. But it was all…
So, um, yeah. I was related to Robert Monroe, who is an out-of-body explorer too—
ELIAS: Yes.
HELMUT: And he had some influences on me. And another name is William Buhlman, who is also an out-of-body writer or something like that, and they influenced me. I read it and I was very influenced to try also exploring.
ELIAS: And have been considerably successful, I would say.
HELMUT: Yes, yes. (Elias laughs) But at a certain point I stopped, because I know okay, this seems all to be real, or it's real, but I have to deal with some psychologic issues from the past I had, I think, as a child. And I think this influences also the exploring state.
ELIAS: How so?
HELMUT: Is this true?
ELIAS: In what capacity?
HELMUT: I mean, if there were some dark experiences as a child, and if I go into these dream states it manifests also in the dream states.
ELIAS: Yes.
HELMUT: Yes. So, I had experiences of true evil or an attacking force or…yeah, something like dark forces. So I thought I have to deal with some psychological things.
ELIAS: Now, understand that that is an interpretation. There are no actual evil forces, but there are energies that can be interpreted in that manner, especially in relation to small ones. For within physical focus as small ones, the imagination is very powerful, and it is a very powerful expression of interpreting different expressions and energies, and therefore you can interpret or configure energy that is frightening to you in a manner that you can identify—or that you would identify—as bad or evil. But in actuality, in itself the energy is not actually evil. Are you understanding?
HELMUT: Yes, yes. I think I have an impression of the dream I had with a dark force or evil force, whatever you would name it, but first when I tried to fight it, it got stronger. When I tried to ignore it, that was impossible. When I tried to speak to it, It was not very successful because it just said, “I'm pure evil.” But at the end I just remembered, Ah, maybe I just love it, I just embrace it, and then it floated into me. And I needed something like ten minutes to really….I woke from this dream and I looked at my body, and it was looking more like light.
ELIAS: interesting configuration. Now, what I would express to you is most definitely that these are translations of energies, not actually that an energy incorporates an intrinsic evil presence.
Now, understand that in relation to your own beliefs and guidelines you can identify some differences as bad, for they may be very different from your guidelines. And as I have expressed many times, you are not eliminating beliefs in this reality, regardless of this shift in consciousness, and therefore duplicity is one of your feeling systems. And in that, it incorporates a specific and beneficial purpose in relation to your individual guidelines—how you express yourself and the guidelines that you set for yourself that are good, bad, right, wrong, which determines what is comfortable for you and what is not comfortable for you. And in this, there are expressions of differences that may be considerably different from what you express within your guidelines, and in that you will evaluate that those expressions are bad. And in that, for YOU that is correct.
It is different when you are moving in the direction of assessing an evil expression, for I would express to you that in defining evil, that is the expression of an entire lack of connection and lack of empathy.
Now; in actuality, in consciousness that is not possible. Therefore, the actual expression of evil as a force is not possible. But—I am understanding that you can generate a translation of energy that is very different from your own guidelines, and you can generate an assessment that it is impossible to connect with that expression, and therefore you generate the assessment that it is evil. You ARE actually connecting, but you may not recognize that or understand that, and therefore that extreme difference is translated as some evil force, and you become frightened, for your body, consciousness creates an alert of danger. And you automatically will react to that expression of danger, and you will pull away from whatever you perceive is that force or that expression that is creating that. Which is, in a manner of speaking, beneficial to you, for it allows you to maintain that feeling of safety, and therefore it allows you to maintain an expression of confidence in your reality, in your expressions and in your movement.
Now; in relation to your projections, I would express to you that it is important for you to recognize now—not through the perception of a child—but now incorporating more information that yes, there are energies that are very, very different, and that may seem threatening, for it is so different, but there is no intrinsic evil. And therefore, when you are exploring and allowing yourself to project and connect in these different manners, you can remind yourself that there may be differences, there may be significant differences in some manifestations that you connect to, and if it is uncomfortable for you, you can always move away and stop the projection. It is not required that you continue with it, but that it will not be harmful to you, for what you are connecting with are different aspects of yourself anyway.
HELMUT: Yeah. That's interesting, because I had another impression, as you told me, and that was the experience that I got the same understanding of what you said. It was something like there is no real devil, in a way.
ELIAS: Correct.
HELMUT: And this opened up much energy in my body system and in my whatever system (both laugh), and so I wept for, let's say, one week. And much energy was streaming down my body into my…yeah. And this changed some big things for me.
ELIAS: Yes, for it allows you much more freedom with [inaudible] know that there is not actually any intrinsic evil force that can be, or would be, intentionally harmful to you, that you are actually creating whatever you connect with. In this, you are correct: There is no actual devil or demons or fallen angels. (Helmut laughs) None of these expressions actually exist; they are translations through beliefs that offer explanations for misunderstood—or not understood—expressions. When individuals do not understand their own creations and expressions and reality, they invent explanations, for you all do this. And in that, when you invent explanations, it allows you to feel and think that you incorporate more control—for if you are aware, you can avoid. If you are aware of the devil and what the devil does and how he moves, you can avoid that, or you can resist it. Therefore, it offers you that sense of control. In actuality, it is merely an idea, and it is an invented explanation.
HELMUT: Yes. But it’s a very powerful one if millions of people are believing in it.
ELIAS: Yes, it IS very powerful, for that is precisely the point: they believe it. Believing is different from beliefs, for believing is merely another word for trusting.
HELMUT: Yes.
ELIAS: What you believe, you trust. And in that, yes, it is very powerful. Anything that you believe is very powerful, for you trust it and you do not question it.
HELMUT: Yeah. So some Buddhists say that trust is the highest vehicle or something, or…What I understand is, they say where you put your trust, you put it into reality, in a way.
ELIAS: (Very firmly) Yes. Very much so. Most definitely.
HELMUT: Wow!
ELIAS: For this is what you do. If you believe a particular expression, you will create it. Therefore, you DO create what you trust—and trust is not always expressed in a positive manner, what you think of as a positive manner. You can very much believe in evil expressions and will actually manifest them. You will support what you believe by creating that and offering yourself evidence of it. This is the reason that trust is so ultimately powerful, for it is a force which influences your perception, and your perception creates your actual reality, your physical reality. Therefore, it is very important to be aware of what you believe and therefore what you trust.
HELMUT: Yes.
ELIAS: Just as in very simple terms, without thinking—therefore it requires no effort—individuals will at certain times create illnesses such as colds and flus. And the reason that they do it in general—other than their express individual personal reasons, or in addition to those—is that they BELIEVE that the viruses exist outside of your body consciousness, and as that outside source they BELIEVE that those viruses seek you out and attack you—and therefore they do!
HELMUT: (Laughs) Interesting. Yeah.
ELIAS: This is a very simple example of how powerful trust is.
HELMUT: And if I relate this to my personal music—I write music, and so I recognized if I trust the music and just go with it, it just works out, and if I try to MAKE it, it's not really working.
ELIAS: Correct, for then you are pushing.
HELMUT: Yes.
ELIAS: And when you are pushing, there is always an element of questioning. Underlying, you are questioning some aspect of what you are doing when you are pushing, and that is the reason that it does not allow you to be as successful, for it is more difficult.
HELMUT: Yeah,
ELIAS: You may be successful in some capacities, but it will be much more difficult.
HELMUT: Yeah, it's hard work then.
ELIAS: Yes. Whereas, when you allow yourself to flow naturally and you do not push, you very easily and without effort create what you want.
HELMUT: Yes. Yes. Are you still there?
ELIAS: Yes.
HELMUT: Ah, okay. So, I think there are just some minutes left, so I would ask you, have you some tips, encouragements or what you would suggest to me?
ELIAS: (Laughs) In what direction? I would express you are creating quite well thus far. (Laughs)
HELMUT: Yeah, in the past I always had one meditation or one thing that I could do that that improves something, so….
ELIAS: Excellent. I am very much advocating of meditation. It is a very beneficial action. It allows you more clarity, it allows you to be more centered, it relaxes your energy and allows you to be much more fluid, which allows you also to be more successful and more productive. Yes, I am tremendously advocating of that type of expression.
I would express to you, merely remind yourself that whatever you are doing in projecting, it is exploring and discovery, and that it is not necessary for you to be afraid, for you will not harm yourself in exploring and discovering—and it is fun!
HELMUT: Yeah. (Elias laughs) Definitely, yeah. And very interesting.
ELIAS: Quite so, I would agree! (Laughs)
HELMUT: Yeah. And as you said, sometimes I can even surprise myself.
ELIAS: Very much so. And I would express to you, my friend, that this projecting that you are doing is also an avenue in which you can connect with other individuals—IF you are so choosing—that have disengaged.
HELMUT: Yeah.
ELIAS: It offers you an avenue in which you can more efficiently connect, with them not being in this time framework or in this reality with you.
HELMUT: That's interesting, because I met my father in a dream.
ELIAS: Excellent!
HELMUT: And I explained to him that he is dead.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And did he accept that?
HELMUT: Not…He listened—that’s the first step—and he was a little bit confused.
ELIAS: (Laughs) Yes. I would express that that would be an interesting encounter and interaction, for that individual has not remembered his death yet, and therefore that would be somewhat confusing to him (laughs). But it matters not; there is no harmfulness in that, either. He will merely not believe you. (Laughs)
HELMUT: Yeah. But we will meet anyways again, so…
ELIAS: Yes. Which I would express another acknowledgement of you, for there are many, many individuals that would very much like to engage what you are engaging.
HELMUT: (Laughs) I understand. And it is not necessary, not really. And I found it very interesting what you said that out-of-body projection could be even now, in any time—it doesn't need to be combined with sleep?
ELIAS: Correct. And it is an action that you can do…It does not necessarily connect with other focuses, either. You can project in this time framework, now in waking state, to an area that is relatively close to a location that you live, if you were so choosing, if you wanted to explore some other area. Or you could explore a different country.
HELMUT: Yeah, interesting.
Good. (Both laugh) On my clock the time is over.
ELIAS: would agree! And I would express to you, my dear friend, tremendous encouragement. I would express that you are creating quite well, and in that, an encouragement to continue your exploration and fun. (Laughs)
HELMUT: Ok. Thank you so much. Thank you very much.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, my dear friend. I shall greatly be anticipating our next meeting, and I shall be offering my energy to you in the interim time framework.
To you in tremendous affection and great lovingness, my friend, au revoir.
HELMUT: Bye-bye.
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