20070117 (2179)
"Supporting People with Mental Illness: Help Them Relax and Focus"
“Being an Example Merely in Being”
"Bleed-Throughs from Other Dimensions"

Wednesday, January 17, 2007 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anon

ELIAS: Good evening!

ANON: Good evening, Elias. Welcome!

ELIAS: (Laughs) And to you also.

ANON: We did speak a few days ago.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Yeah. And I did not even mention my name to yourself. (Elias laughs) [Participant mentions name]

ELIAS: And I welcome you sincerely.

ANON: I was hoping that you would also inform me of my essence name. [Elias provides essence name] Am I correct in saying it sounds Chinese?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: That’s interesting. I sort of felt that there was some link between myself and Chinese. I used to always think about things like martial arts and kung fu (Elias chuckles), as though it’s something that I was actually really in tune with.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And this is NOT a coincidence. (Laughs)

ANON: Okay. That’s interesting. I’m really pleased with that. Thank you very much for this.

ELIAS: You are very welcome.

ANON: I think that actually brings forth a lot of meaning to some of my preconceived intuitions.

ELIAS: Aha! Which –

ANON: And my family orientation?

ELIAS: Your impressions?

ANON: I thought it was Sumafi, but I’m not 100%.

ELIAS: Yes. And your alignment?

ANON: I’m not sure.

ELIAS: Ilda.

ANON: Ilda. Could you explain that a little more for me? The significance or meaning.

ELIAS: I have offered considerable information as to these essence families, and if you are so choosing you may inquire of Michael subsequent to our conversation and that may offer you –

ANON: Okay. Thank you. Elias, I do social work. I work with a lot of people who experience mental illness. And I have been trying to incorporate a lot of your perceptions with some of these individuals that I am working with, basically in regard to allowing them an opportunity to look at some of their belief systems and how it affects their moods and how it affects their interaction with others, and how they actually see it as an absolute, and how that triggers [inaudible] disease within themselves, and the expectations are not actually responded to by others as they will wish.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and this can create significant disappointment or frustration.

ANON: Mm-hm. I am trying to work with them in this way because some of them are on treatment with a mode of conventional medication that is actually used by a psychiatrist who has a perception that the medication may help these people to some extent. I am also thinking that their own perception of themselves may contribute to their wellness also.

ELIAS: Yes, you are quite correct. And in actuality, many times – although it is not a rule – but many times physicians prescribe medication for individuals in the attempt to create what they view to be a more normal expression, which in actuality is the attempt to generate sameness in all individuals rather than honoring the diversity and choices of experiences.

ANON: Mm-hm. Mm-hm. I know this also, because I actually have looked up a lot of your transcripts, and you have actually talked at length about these things also.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Yeah. I’ve actually been looking at them all this time, and I’ve been able to incorporate them in some of my interactions with these individuals that I actually encounter on a day-to-day basis to see if I could offer them an opportunity to discover some of their own perceptions and probably would offer them…

It’s quite difficult in doing this, I must say though, because some of them have difficulty in accepting information in regard to their own actions or their own belief systems, and sometimes their perceptions are not able to rationalize or to look at things. I’m looking at ways how I can help, or probably if I could offer them some information or a perception that will help them open up.

ELIAS: I am understanding. I am acknowledging of what you do and how you are interacting with these other individuals, and your sensitivity to their situations and themselves.

In this, as you are aware, it may be more beneficial with these types of individuals to move slowly in increments in how you interact with them. For as you are already aware, these individuals, in like manner to some other individuals that may not be classified to incorporate mental illness but incorporate strong or severe issues in certain areas, have been expressing in a particular manner for an ongoing time framework, and in that, have become very familiar with certain expressions and have become very familiar with discounting themselves, and that has been reinforced strongly by other individuals surrounding them. Therefore, they already incorporate the perception that there is some element wrong with them or that they are broken in some manner.

Therefore, the task at hand is to reassure and support these individuals in a manner in which they begin to alter their own perception of themself and they do not view themselves any longer as “broken” or “less than” or “wrong.”

And in this, it can be quite challenging to effect a beginning. A beginning point is one in which you are reassuring and are genuinely connecting with the other individual and expressing a genuine supportiveness.

Supportiveness is not fixing; supportiveness is acknowledging and accepting. And in that, you can engage your creativity to express suggestions in relation to how they can begin to effect changes with their own perception.

One is to engage relaxation. This is very important, for most of these individuals incorporate little knowledge or ability to relax, and that is a very affecting expression in relation to how they can generate success in becoming accepting of themself. And in that, relaxation can be suggested in association with fun visualizations – not serious but fun visualizations that are creative and that can be interactive.

Also, encouraging to be generating some activity within each day such as incorporating a walk, but engaging another action while the individual is walking, to hold their attention. For this also encourages them to focus, which is another area in which they generally are unaccustomed to expressing. Therefore, offering a suggestion of what to pay attention to while they engage a walk can be very helpful, which also automatically encourages the body consciousness to relax. If the attention is being occupied in seeking some manifestation to look for upon the walk, and the body is generating the physical movement of walking, that automatically releases energy and occupies the attention in a manner that does not encourage tension.

Therefore, very simple actions can be very effective. Also, encouraging relaxation in association with incorporating a tub; but also, with that action of engaging a tub, to also be engaging some type of fun visualization and to be engaging the physical senses, which allow the individual to relax more, for the attention is being occupied once again and therefore not being directed to thinking, thinking, thinking.

ANON: Right. So the emphasis, it feels like, is to slow the thinking down as much as possible.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: And give them a forum to focus on something that will hopefully give them a space.

ELIAS: Yes. And to be encouraging and to remain calm and centered yourself even in their expression of panic or in wanting to exact differences immediately, for generally there is a commonality of impatience.

ANON: Right. Yeah.

ELIAS: And in that, as you maintain a calm, balanced expression, you can encourage the other individuals by expressing to them your understanding of their expression but also expressing to them the significance and the genuine importance and strength of these types of exercises and how affecting they actually are if they are repeated.

It may also be helpful to express a type of game with the individuals – engage them. And in that, they will feel more validated in actually participating with you rather than merely being instructed or being expressed that they are in need of alteration; rather, if you are engaging a game with them as you interact with them in which you set simple intentions – or what you would term to be goals – for each time you engage each other, such as offering the exercise of incorporating a walk each day for a week. And within that time framework, for two days the individual is to be looking for certain types of leaves, or is to be looking for certain types of windows, or is to be discovering how many creatures they encounter or can count upon their walk.

Do not express the exercise to be the same for the entirety of one week, but more in increments of two of your days and then it is to be changed to a different discovery. That occupies the attention sufficiently, and the attention does not become complacent or bored with the same expression and therefore move back into the familiar.

In this, your game may be that you will participate in like manner and that you also will incorporate a walk, and when you meet again, you will share with each other what you discovered in your walks. This offers an avenue in which the individual is no longer concentrating upon disease. The individual is no longer concentrating upon wrongness or dysfunction of themselves; they are engaging an action that is beneficial in more manners than they are even aware, but those affectingnesses will begin to become obvious within a very short time framework.

You can also engage the individual in expressing to them to generate certain writings inspired by imagination, regardless of what it is. It is not necessary for their stories to be happy. They can be dark, they can be threatening, they can be ominous – it matters not. They are allowing themselves to engage their creativity and releasing energy, which also can be very beneficial. And if you are not generating a judgment concerning their stories, that can be very validating, for if you are not finding wrongness with their stories, that will encourage them to relax also.

In all of this, you become the focal point. You become the facilitator and the one that is the expression of support, for they are unfamiliar with supporting themselves. And when an individual is unfamiliar with supporting themselves, it can be very beneficial for another individual or essence to be supportive of them until the point that they become familiar with generating it themselves.

Another very effective exercise is to be suggesting that they incorporate, several times within each day, an acknowledgement of some accomplishment, regardless of what it is. It genuinely matters not what the accomplishment is. Whether the accomplishment is successfully putting their shoes upon their feet, that is a success. Acknowledging several accomplishments within each day and genuinely expressing some type of appreciation of themself in each day, these are both very powerful expressions and can generate very powerful effects in changing perception.

You are not changing the choice of the individual to engage this reality in the manner that they have chosen. That is not the point, for they have chosen to engage this reality in their own exploration in the manner in which they are, which may not fit the norm and therefore they are categorized as dysfunctional or incorporating mental illness, but that has been their choice in how they shall explore this reality in this particular focus. THAT is an aside; that is actually not the point.

What is the point is that whatever manner they choose to explore this reality in their focus that they can be accepting of that, that they can be comfortable and satisfied within themselves, and not compare and not judge themselves that they express a difference. THAT is the point, and THAT is where you become the facilitator and the encourager and the supporter.

ANON: I am understanding that clearly. I thank you for that, Elias. That’s really great.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend.

ANON: Yeah. I could not have said it better. It’s very, very great.

I must say, Elias, this has been my sort of endeavor for most of my experiences in this focus, that I’ve been always looking at ways to work with others, developing them. But it also incorporates developing myself, because in order for me to be able to support somebody, I feel it’s important I know how I should do that. So it’s like I need to understand myself in order to understand how I could support somebody appropriately.

ELIAS: I am quite in agreement with you.

ANON: So it’s been something that I’ve been always focusing on. I’m coming to a point where I feel that I am becoming quite accomplished in this, if I should say so.

ELIAS: And I am greatly acknowledging of you!

ANON: I would like to actually understand more of my relationship with this, maybe to offer myself maybe more insight to actually be able to put this approach forward in much more efficiency and much more positivity.

ELIAS: Very well. In what capacity?

ANON: In regard to how I interact with others and it could be developed in a way that later actually they become much more aware of themselves, to acknowledge their own self. I’m speaking here not just with any clients that I’m working with; I’m speaking in regard to even my friends and my colleagues and my relationship, my siblings. To be able to allow myself an opportunity to engage with them in any true being that I am, if I should use those terms.

ELIAS: Yes. And in that, what is significant for you to pay attention to first of all is differences, and the allowance of differences, and also to be aware of your energy and not generating opposing energies in generating defense or personal responsibility, which would be the two areas that you would be most likely to express an opposing energy.

ANON: Okay.

ELIAS: For in generating personal responsibility for other individuals, that can easily be camouflaged with the intention of helping.

ANON: Ah, yes. I can agree with that a lot, because I know from my own experience I have seen a lot of people generate a lot of good intentions to others but unable to incorporate this for themselves. I find that very difficult to understand. I am always of the opinion that in order to help others you must be able to help yourself first.

ELIAS: In an ideal reality, that would be the most effective. But individuals can be helpful to other individuals in sharing experiences and sharing information even if they incorporate more difficulty in applying that to themselves. For in sharing with another individual, the other individual may actually be expressing more openness to receive that and to assimilate that, and therefore that is the reason that the other individual DREW the individual to them, to share experiences with them.

But in this, I would be in strong agreement with you. It is much more effective and efficient if the individual who is intending to be helpful is aware of themself first and has offered themself information to be expressing that supportivenss of themself first. For in that, you can be more genuine.

And in that, if YOU are generating the experiences YOURSELF, with yourself, you generate less expectations with other individuals, and you are less likely to be attempting to instruct the other individuals and more likely to merely share your experiences with them and not concern yourself with whether the other individual actually incorporates that information and uses it in the manner that you deem to be the best direction, for you do not incorporate an agenda.

ANON: Right. I see.

ELIAS: You incorporate the intention of being helpful and therefore sharing, but you do not incorporate an agenda with expectations of how the other individual shall receive what you are sharing.

ANON: I see.

ELIAS: And that can be challenging at times, especially in association with individuals that you express a strong relationship with, individuals that you love, individuals that you incorporate affection for and genuine caring. For in those relationships, the automatic expression and association that is generated is that you want them to be happy, and you want them to be comfortable. And if they are generating any expressions or choices or behaviors that appear to you to not be any of those expressions, happy or comfortable, the automatic response is to want to incorporate some doing to generate that expression of happiness or comfort.

In this, it can be influencing of your own automatic want for the comfort and happiness of other individuals if the other individual is expressing that they are miserable. But what is important to remind yourself is that even if another individual is expressing to you that they are unhappy or miserable, it is not your job to fix, for they are generating their experiences for a reason, and they are choosing what they are choosing for a reason.

And in that, they may not necessarily like their experiences, they may not necessarily be comfortable in their experiences, but remind yourself of yourself in time frameworks in which you have generated experiences that you do not like or that are uncomfortable but have offered you significant information and have facilitated significant movement within yourself. This is important to remind yourself of, for when individuals attempt to move in the direction of fixing another individual, in actuality what you are attempting to do is rob them of their experience.

ANON: Yeah. It’s like taking responsibility for somebody else’s actions.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Yeah. I can clearly see that, Elias, and I can see that what you said about the closeness of a relationship may be the focal point that can cause it to actually respond to your loved one as a way to actually change the experience, because that’s the more sensitive areas for that kind of responses to happen.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: And these relationships become that proof that they are bothering me.

ELIAS: Yes. Now, in this also, my friend, you can experiment, which may be very validating to you in what we are discussing. You can experiment by genuinely paying attention to you and not expressing opposing energy, but also not reinforcing or becoming a participant in another individual’s discomfort, maintaining your own comfort and allowing yourself to interact and share, but also expressing your own strength.

And in that, your experiment is to watch how that changes the interaction that you incorporate with another individual, and how generating that action actually is more helpful to the other individual than when you are engaging personal responsibility. For many times when you are engaging personal responsibility, what you are doing is encouraging the other individual to continue in the direction that they are already expressing.

ANON: Absolutely. Absolutely.

ELIAS: Therefore, you are encouraging them to continue to be unhappy. But when you remove yourself from that type of participation and you are genuinely paying attention to you, and being the straight little sapling and being an example – not instructing, but being an example merely in being – this creates a very different energy, and it creates an encouragement for the other individual to empower themselves, and they begin to express differently.

ANON: Mm-hm. I can see that very clear. Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS: You are welcome, my friend.

ANON: I just want to change the topic a little. Recently there has been a tremendous amount of information coming my way basically through other friends that I have who are seeking information to make sense of their lives, to some extent. And there has been some information given to us, through perhaps documentation and practice, about some entities by the name of Touage [spelling not verified]. They have a lot of symbolic relics on the planet here with the ancient things from the pyramids and all the ancient temples with these little beings with the tongue sticking out called Touage, saying that they were quite supportive to mankind at one point in time. I’m just asking for some clarity on this information. Is that something that you are aware of?

ELIAS: (Pause) These are perhaps what I may term to be somewhat of delicate subjects, for in similar manner to individuals inquiring of Atlanteans, the focuses of attention that occupy that dimension in relation to Atlantis can actually be acknowledged as being supportive to your reality as well, for there have been significant bleed-throughs from that dimension to this dimension which have generated connections to an extent that have been encouraging and inspiring at times to many of you within this dimension.

What you are expressing, the connection to now, is a very similar situation. They are not associated with this dimension but have incorporated bleed-throughs which have allowed for connections, which have generated inspirations. Not that they, for the most part, have been directly interactive within your reality, but indirectly interactive in a similar manner to what many of you can generate now in connecting with other focuses of yourselves, whether they be within this physical dimension or another dimension.

Within certain time frameworks of your history, you as humans, as the species that you are, have generated time frameworks in which there is collectively more of an openness to expressions and information and knowledge outside of merely your own reality. Certain cultures in different time frameworks have collectively generated a significant openness to allow them to tap into information that generates greater knowledge and a greater allowance for abilities to be expressed within your own reality.

The Egyptians incorporated a time framework in which collectively they did allow this. The Tibetans have incorporated time frameworks in which they have allowed this. The Japanese have also. There are cultures within Central and South America that have also, [and] Northern America, even in areas of Asia and Europe and different areas in Africa. Many, many island cultures have incorporated different time frameworks in which they allow themselves an openness to tap in to other informations. This is what magic is born of. This is what myth is born of. This is many times what invention is born of: allowing an openness to tap into what is not known yet within your reality but IS known within another reality.

Therefore, I would express a validation of the validity of these expressions, but also I would express a clarification that they are not associated with your physical reality.

ANON: Yeah. Yeah, that was the consideration, that they were quite helpful while they were not actually within our reality. They were basically from another dimension.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Yeah. Elias, one final thing before I say goodbye to you, the present conversation. My partner, she went to one of these mediums that we’ve got here who informed her that she and myself had a previous connection. Is that something that you are aware of?

ELIAS: You have had many!

ANON: But with this particular person?

ELIAS: Yes! You have incorporated MANY focuses with this individual, past AND future – and other-dimensional.

ANON: Okay. And our both children that we’ve got at the moment, the two boys?

ELIAS: You incorporate many focuses with them also.

ANON: Hm. We have two lovely boys, I must say. (Both laugh)

ELIAS: Another expression to be appreciating.

ANON: Yeah.

ELIAS: (Laughs) And your choice to be participating with them, and that is to be appreciated also.

ANON: Yes.

ELIAS: Quite a wonderment, is it not?

ANON: It is.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) And an opportunity to view genuine majesty.

ANON: Genuine majesty?

ELIAS: Small ones may be viewed as a genuine expression of majesty in their wonderment and in their zeal for exploration.

ANON: Mm-hm. I like the sound of that. (Elias laughs)

Elias, I am pleased that I’ve had this opportunity to actually express with yourself. I look forward to talking with you again in the future or in the present.

ELIAS: And as do I, my dear friend. (Laughs)

ANON: Yes. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: You are very welcome. I express tremendous appreciation to you, and dear friendship.

ANON: Thank you very much. I express my appreciation to you also, and your true friendship and guidance and support.

ELIAS: In great lovingness, au revoir.

ANON: Thank you.

©2007 Mary Ennis. All Rights Reserved.

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Copyright 2007 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved.