Reveling in Your Beingness
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"Reveling in Your Beingness"
"Infectious Appreciation"
"The Movement of Changing Perception"
Friday, July 14, 2006 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael) and Ester (Ashule)
“The more you express your joy in how much you appreciate yourself, your choices, your relationship, other individuals begin to find that difficult to oppose.”
ELIAS: Good morning!
ESTER: Good morning!
ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what shall we discuss?
ESTER: Wow, there’s a lot to discuss today. (Both laugh) I’ve been—what do you call this... I've been having a lot a fun, let's just say, trying out a lot of things.
ELIAS: That is encouraging.
ESTER: Yes. Including appreciation.
(Pause) I’m very excited to be talking to you. (Elias chuckles)
(Long pause) I don't even know where to start! (Elias chuckles) I had a list of things I wanted to ask, but I don't know where to start now.
(Long pause) I guess I'm going to have a different kind of discussion with you, a different way.
ELIAS: Very well.
ESTER: And I don't even know how that is, what it's going to be like. I just feel that I want to change something on the way how I actually talk to you, so… (Pause)
So I went on vacation, and I went to Greece.
ELIAS: Ah! And how was your adventure in Greece?
ESTER: I'm sorry?
ELIAS: How was your adventure in Greece?
ESTER: My adventure in Greece was mind blowing (both laugh)—mind, body, everything blowing!
You know, I'm having a hard time because I've been talking to you the whole time in my head (Elias laughs), and so it's kind of... I'm having this hard time. (Pause) Yes, I'm having a hard time with the two, talking to you now and knowing that I've already told you everything.
ELIAS: It matters not. You can share your experience with myself now also, and we can enjoy it together.
ESTER: Ok. (Giggles) So, a lot of things happened...
ELIAS: What did you do?
ESTER: ...that I never even imagined were going to happen. I met this guy on my second day there, and now I've been very curious, because I've been trying to expand my interpretation of things. I can feel that a lot of times I'm still doing a very narrow and absolute—which is fine, I understand that too, but I wanted to expand it and to flow. I’m at the Coliseum, or the... you know, I love that, because I love sports. And so I’m there, I’m happy because I’m there, that was the one place I really wanted to go. And there’s this guy there, and he's all dressed in red, which was mind blowing to me because he was bright red. And I did things that I never have done before in an openness, which was quite fun, and I feel like that changed me a lot. Like that movement, whatever I did, changed me so much.
ELIAS: Such as?
ESTER: I could feel my body afterwards in a way I haven't felt it before. I could feel the air around me, I could… I remember recently I licked my fingers, I had something, and it was such a sensual experience. I can feel very sensual now, and I don't remember ever feeling that way. So it's fun, you know, it's like a new experience, and I’m enjoying it.
ELIAS: (Laughs) Congratulations!
ESTER: Yeah! (Laughs)
ELIAS: Experiencing yourself in the fullness of yourself and discovering the intensity of your own senses.
ESTER: Yes. (Pause)
And I noticed too with him that for a long... even until only this last week I was almost dismissing him. Not in a negative way, but in just putting him on one side, like [inaudible] again; you know, him, right? And just this week I tried to think about it kind of like coming, “What was that about?” Because automatically, of course, when I saw [inaudible]. When I got back I was babbling to my friends, you know, telling all this stuff. I was so excited (both laugh) and sharing all this stuff, but about him I wasn't. It was like I was completely putting him to one side. I don't even know his name, anything except that he was wearing this red jumpsuit on this hot day and that he was cute and he was perfect, you know, like somebody I am attracted to, like he was perfect. (Elias chuckles) And I guess from my way of thinking—or OUR way of thinking is—Okay, it was just an encounter, it was nothing, it didn't mean anything and he was just taking advantage of the situation. You know how it is all very negative, like we were using each other, you know, in a very negative way.
And then for this week it felt very different when I thought about it, because I was thinking Okay, first the color red, and trying to interpret his family and thinking of energy and essence and he was having his own experience and I was having mine. He and I connected, you know? We came together for some reason, all right.
ELIAS: Yes!
ESTER: And I don't know, it was just fun to see it that way.
ELIAS: And another experience of allowing yourself to experience yourself in new and creative manners. (Pause)
ESTER: Can you talk a little bit more about that? Tell me more.
ELIAS: At times, as an individual exploring yourself and becoming more heightenedly aware of yourself—who you are and how acute your senses can be if you are paying attention to them, and how much you can experience and you can present to yourself in information, not merely intellectual but physical and sensual, and experiencing yourself in your feelings and becoming more aware of all that is that generates you as the individual in your uniqueness that you are. And in that, you may generate experiences in a different manner, not necessarily in the conventional manner in which you engage thought processes concerning connecting with another individual as a potential relationship or those types of directions of seriousness, but more in a reveling of your beingness and allowing yourself to connect with another individual merely to experience the vibrancy of yourself and the presence of yourself and the magnificence of yourself and what you CAN experience. These are playful experimentations and explorings of your very beingness, which is quite wondrous and exciting.
ESTER: Oh yes. (Both laugh) Yes.
ELIAS: And perhaps you presented yourself with this individual clothed in this bright red color to enhance the experience of ALL of your senses, generating an excitement and stimulation with the brightness of the red. (Pause)
ESTER: He was quite spontaneous. I love that. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: And in that, my friend, in exploring your beingness, allowing yourself to also explore it in the natural flow of your orientation and how your passion is expressed in many, many different manners, and how easily and quickly it can move from one direction to another. (Both laugh)
ESTER: I had another experience too, because then I spent like ten days with only women in my retreat, and then the last two days I was thrown in with this girl and she kept saying, "Okay, we have to go dancing." And both of those nights we went to these clubs, which are very different from clubs here, which was interesting. But it was so full of testosterone, because it was men, you know? (Giggles) And on my second day I was dancing with this young guy, and that's when I finally kind of understood what you mean, because for like an hour I was dancing with the women and by myself and I'm thinking, I don't want to deal with anybody else and I'm doing this for myself and I'm centering and I'm concentrating on myself and how I move and feeling my body and feeling the music, and I'm having an incredible experience.
And then one of the ladies kind of connected with these two guys, young guys, and I'm like, Okay, I don’t want to dance [inaudible], but at the same time I'm dancing with them. And then one of them comes closer, and I'm like, Okay, what the hell, let me try something else new, you know? (Both laugh) And so I go and was trying to do this very sexual dance, which I had never done in my life. Even in my dreams I don't think I've done it. (Both laugh) But he was a very sexual man, the club is full of people and I can feel them watching, and I told myself to relax and I relaxed. And I was having this incredible experience and the expression of passion, which I've read how you’ve said that before, that you can express that passion without doing what only has to be done through intercourse, you know? In that moment it was extremely sexual for a long song, and he was AMAZING (both laugh), and he was done, you know? And when it was over I felt so peaceful and so complete and so present. I don't know, it was just amazing.
ELIAS: Allowing yourself to express your passion freely and flowing with it and allowing it to move in whatever direction it chooses.
ESTER: Yeah.
ELIAS: And in that, as I have expressed, in your orientation your passion can be expressed in many, many, many different directions, and those directions can change quite quickly.
ESTER: Yeah.
ELIAS: And there can be almost an instantaneous continuation of that passion in a different expression in a different direction.
ESTER: Yeah.
ELIAS: But this is the allowance of the free flow of your energy in association with your orientation. And I may express to you, dancing can be one of the most sensual actions that you can engage between individuals, for it is in many, many, many expressions in many types of dances an expression OF sexuality and sensuality. This is the reason that it is so strongly incorporated in so many cultures throughout your world. And if you pay attention to many different dances, you may recognize and offer yourself information as to how passionately these dances are actually expressed. There is an expression of allure and mystery and magic in dance. (Pause)
ESTER: Yes, and I too am allowing myself to feel more of that. I'll be dancing a lot more. (Both laugh) Yes.
ELIAS: Genuinely becoming the actual you that you were meant to be.
Allowing yourself to flower now, are you? (Both laugh)
ESTER: Yes. And then I had…connected with all this flowering thing I had this experience of falling in love for the first time also, allowing myself to feel that passion for somebody else.
ELIAS: Ah!
ESTER: And pretty shocking...because the somebody else is female. So that was quite shocking too. (Both laugh) The most incredible thing—it was really just this intense fascination with this other individual, which was…as I spent time, I could feel my own freedom. I keep thinking [about] it like the more fascinated and the more attracted I felt for her, the more I loved myself. That's the only way I can feel it.
ELIAS: Ahhh. I am understanding.
ESTER: And I allowed myself to just express that. Because at first I wanted to—you know, this is all wrong, this is...you know, all these societal things that I have pretty much [inaudible], and kind of pushing me on that and saying it doesn't matter, I'm just going to express what I want right now and figuring out what it was. And sometimes it was something just like I want to just look at her, something as sweet as that, you know? And just spend hours just looking at her and being fascinated and being attracted and being... and at the same time kind of loving myself when I was doing it.
ELIAS: I am understanding, for in a genuine expression of appreciation with another individual without any cloudedness of restriction or expectations or opposition, this is a natural expression to generate, in which you begin to recognize that if you can express this capacity of appreciation for another individual so genuinely, you evidence to yourself that you are worthy of your own appreciation also, and that in generating that capacity for love, you cannot express that genuinely with another individual if you are not expressing that genuineness in appreciation of yourself.
Therefore, when you discover actual love—not merely attraction and not merely affection—and when you couple that with attraction and affection, it can be a very intense and tremendously opening experience in which you also appreciate your own capacities and your own wonderment, for if you did not incorporate that wonderment you would not have drawn that to yourself. Therefore, you present yourself with the reflection of you, which then creates the reverse circle of what discounting does, for in this circle you continue to perpetuate and enhance that appreciation and it grows. And in that, you may be amazed at the capacity that you actually incorporate to express that, which is much greater than you may have imagined previously. (Both laugh)
I express my hearty congratulations to you, my friend. This is quite worthy of acknowledgment and noting. (Laughs)
ESTER: Oh yes!
ELIAS: Rather than generating your attractions in fantasies, you perhaps now can generate those fantasies in actual expressions. (Laughs)
ESTER: (Laughing) Oh let me tell you, I was thinking about that the whole time, saying, "This is much more fun." (Elias laughs) Because like you were saying, I did get an extremely strong reflection back from this person. It was amazing, you know? (Elias laughs) And I was having my moments when I was like, I cannot handle this anymore? (Laughs) I was feeling so afraid—not afraid; it isn’t the word—in certain circumstances because I was pushing myself so far out there as I had never done it before without concerning myself with what others are going to say. I mean, I was expressing myself so much that at a point I would say, "Okay, this is becoming a bit overwhelming, so I'm going to just stop it." And I feel that every single time I would say that, it was like I would meet her and she would be extremely sending this energy of love to me. And I was...every single time when I said, "I'm going to withdraw, I can't handle this anymore, it's just too much for me," it would happen like in reverse. So I never did; I never did pull back like I usually do. (Elias laughs) Because I was like keeping myself out there and getting it back, and it was...Yes, I'm still feeling that wonder and that excitement.
And coming back was difficult for a few days—which was fun too, because [inaudible]. Because it's only a few days, two or three days, and I was struggling with the expectations again. Because it’s like I’m in a familiar environment and with my people that I know and I'm familiar with these expectations, you know? But then like today I said, Well, I finally started moving again in this space where I feel very little expectations, and I’m so excited to just be here and alive and to be myself.
ELIAS: And this is your opportunity to break away from that box and to allow yourself to express your genuine appreciation of yourself and this individual, and in that, not to concern yourself with other individuals. For other individuals, regardless of their perceptions, cannot diminish your experience. (Pause)
And I may also express to you, the more that you appreciate your choices, the less other individuals will be opposing or skeptical, for appreciation is contagious (both laugh), and it is coveted. For other individuals are attracted to that expression, and in a figurative manner of speaking, it is almost infectious.
ESTER: Yes.
ELIAS: The more you express your joy in how much you appreciate yourself, your choices, your relationship, other individuals begin to find that difficult to oppose. Just as, in a quite simple example, if you begin laughing—perhaps some expression strikes you quite funny and you begin laughing, and other individuals around you may not have been struck in that funny manner as you have, but the more that you laugh, the more the other individuals shall begin to laugh, and the more uncontrollably you laugh, the more the other individuals laugh also, for that is an action that is also somewhat infectious. (Laughs)
ESTER: Yes. (Laughs)
ELIAS: And the expression of joy produced from appreciation is very similar in that it is very difficult to ignore. (Chuckles)
ESTER: Yeah, and I have felt it most of my life because I've made some very unconventional choices, and most of the time nobody even...You know, they ask me about it, but most people aren’t fazed by it because I'm very comfortable with it.
ELIAS: Yes. For the more comfortable that YOU are, the less concerned other individuals are.
ESTER: Yeah. So I already had that experience with my life choices, and I am finding it in this aspect and this... Even myself, I cannot even define myself, you know? People tell me, Well, you are a lesbian now because you like a woman, and I’m like, No, that's like a too-narrow thing, I’m more than that. Because I like guys too. (Both laugh) I like everything, you know? Who knows what I'm going to like next? (Both laugh)
Even when I'm vegetarian and people say, "I thought that you were vegetarian," I'm like yes, but once in a while I feel like eating meat. I don't know why, but once in a while I do. And the rest of the time I dislike meat. (Both laugh) But can I even call myself a vegetarian because I'm not strictly…?
ELIAS: I am understanding. You are allowing yourself to genuinely express yourself and your preferences and see no need to be categorizing that or labeling it but allowing yourself genuinely to merely be you.
ESTER: Yes.
ELIAS: Which is quite an amazing expression. (Laughs)
ESTER: Even this morning I had my yoga, and I was having like a difficult day, right? A difficult morning. I was struggling in a new way. It’s different. It’s funny, because so many people were like different but the same, right? So I was struggling, but at the same time it was like okay, so I'm struggling and I'm here and I'm noticing what's happening, and I know that I've changed and I know that even this struggle is a completely different struggle. Even in that I felt my own openness. Even though I was struggling, it was a weird feeling because it was like I was closed but at the same time I was open. And I guess I had that experience—I went in one of the caves in Crete, and that's when I kind of experienced it because I was in this cave, dark, all by myself. I couldn't hear anything except my own heartbeat and my own breathing. And I realized that I was alone and it was dark, and I was still concerned about what other people would think of me you know? (Both laugh) It was amazing, and that's when I'm like, Oh my god, this is all me! (Both laugh) I am here in this cave alone. It's dark. Nobody can see me even if they were here, and I'm afraid to do the wrong thing because what are they going to think?
ELIAS: Quite a revelation, is it not?
ESTER: It was an amazing revelation. And then I went into this state where I felt extremely alone. I felt so cold inside of me like I was so very alone. And I'm like frantic in a strange way, because at the same time I couldn't move because I was afraid of what someone is going to think of me, right? (Both laugh) And so I’m in this space and I was like, This is so incredible to realize, and then I remembered that no matter how I feel that's not how it is. Even if I feel completely alone I wasn't—you were there. You know, you always tell me, "I'm always with you."
ELIAS: Yes.
ESTER: [Inaudible] you were there, you know?
ELIAS: Yes. And you are NEVER alone. (Chuckles)
ESTER: I'm like asking, okay? I imagine you felt me because I was trying to reach out. I’m like, I know I feel cold and alone and afraid and so many expectations and all this weight on me, that's all I can feel. I don't feel the connection, I don't feel these other parts, but it doesn't matter because they're still there. And that's when I came out. I heard some rattles, and I was like Wow, it doesn't stay with me. Because like this morning I didn't exactly feel any because I was struggling, but within me I realized that I WASN'T struggling at the same time, but there was a part of me that was struggling.
ELIAS: Yes. What is happening is your perception is changing, and that is changing your reality. And in that, you are noticing some aspects of familiarities such as aloneness or emptiness or struggle, but you are experiencing them differently. You are recognizing the familiarity of the expressions, but you are also noticing that in some manner they are different now. The reason they are different is that they actually ARE different, for your perception is different, and therefore the reality of your experiences is different, which changes the meaning of the experiences. As I have expressed, in shifting you are not merely redefining terms, you are redefining your reality; and in that, the meanings of your experiences are changing. Struggle may not necessarily mean the same in certain situations now that it meant previously; therefore it is experienced differently. Aloneness may be experienced differently, for it does not incorporate the same meaning as it did previously.
ESTER: Yeah, and that's... This morning I allowed myself to be there, and then I got a lot of validation from outside. It was fascinating, too, like I was comforting myself from the outside, because that's... I know that it is but that was my experience, and then at the end when we went into the meditation when I was named out I was able to go into a place very deep within me, which I have never done before.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what you are allowing yourself to experience, my friend, in ALL of these actions is the presence of you and your existence. And that can be fascinating. (Pause)
ESTER: Yes. (Elias laughs)
On Tuesday I went to my dancing class group, which was another one of those struggles and that struggle thing (both laugh), but it was funny because in my mind a lot of times now I've been doing—just little things that I do, like when I was in Greece I kept reminding myself whenever I felt a need to retreat or to be, as always, afraid I would say, "I am Ester. This is my life, this is my journey," and that would center me. That would bring in, and another thing that I've been doing is sometimes I'll be using this “Ash”—you know Ashule, short for that? Which is calling myself that within me, calling myself that.
You would not believe this—well, I guess you would (both laugh). I've been doing this since before I went on my trip. I wanted to be...and I was having one of those days when I'm having a struggle. I was struggling because I didn't want to go to work and I was watching movies. And then this one movie that [inaudible]. The name of the movie was “Avalon,” and somehow that called me and I put it in. And it was this black-and-white movie, and it was about this girl named Ash who was a gamer, which in some of my daydreams I’ve done that, when I'm a gamer and I my name is Ash, and I’ve done this thing in my imagination, and now I’m seeing it in this movie! (Elias chuckles) This girl is a gamer and she's the best, and her name is Ash and she's trying to get to this next level, but everybody tells her she cannot go because it's too dangerous, too risky, because if you don't make it you actually go dead. And like one of her friends was brain dead, because he had tried to do it, right? And I'm sitting there and I'm like, Oh my god, I'm like totally in shock. I didn't even finish the movie, because I was like, Wow. And the way she could get, and that's when I stopped watching the movie because that's when my mind like exploded. (Elias laughs) The only thing that she could do to get to the next level, she needed to get through the nine sisters. Now Kris is teaching about the nine sisters, right? So that was the way to get into the next level, and that's when my brain just blew out of my...Okay, I cannot watch the rest of this. (Both laugh) But then I knew, Okay, I need to get to the next level and something’s going to happen and I notice everything. It was just (both laugh) my experience.
ELIAS: And I would express to you that you appear to be exploding all over! (Both laugh)
ESTER: All over the place! (Both laugh)
And so on Tuesday some guy asked me my name and I told him. It just came out—it was Ash, my name is Ash, and I was like, Wow. (Elias laughs) Even though I was having difficulty in my back for the first time in months, again it was very tight that day, I told him that and I was like, Wow! You know more of this thing where everything is different, you know? And I watched on the surface of what's happening—everything is different.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) That is the movement of changing perception. (Chuckles)
ESTER: So much fun. (Pause)
And I did want to ask you, I have never in my whole life been able to define the word “worship” or “sacred.” I guess “sacred” to me, I realize that was a word I couldn’t define, because to me everything was sacred, so how do you define something that everything is? So I couldn't define it, you know? How do you separate sacred from not sacred? But “worship”—how do you define worship?
ELIAS: Sacred is precious and valued.
ESTER: It would still be an individual thing what I consider sacred.
ELIAS: Yes.
ESTER: It would be different from what somebody else would consider sacred.
ELIAS: Yes, for it can be defined as precious and valued. Therefore, yes, what you define as sacred and what another individual defines as sacred may be quite different.
ESTER: Would there be anything that is sacred universally? I mean like...?
ELIAS: Not necessarily, for this also is associated with perception.
ESTER: Okay. [Inaudible]
ELIAS: It is associated with what you value.
ESTER: Okay.
ELIAS: Worship is an action of, in a manner of speaking, paying homage to. It is, in one manner of speaking, a debasement of self. BUT in another manner of speaking it is a compliment of greatness, which is also an individual expression associated with perception.
ESTER: Okay. So how I was defining it, how I was seeing it before, even when I was growing up, I could never figure it out because I always disliked that. And even though I believed in God and I wanted to worship God, there was this sense of I was always hating that word.
ELIAS: I am understanding, for if the expression is generated in association with some expression outside of yourself, it is a debasement of yourself. BUT it can be expressed in association WITH yourself, and that would be a compliment of greatness.
ESTER: Okay, you are validating how I was seeing it.
ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, an individual could express that they worship themself or could express that they worship another individual such as a partner that they love quite dearly, and in that, it would be a compliment of greatness. For it is not a debasement to express that in conjunction with another individual if you genuinely view yourself, or perceive yourself, to be equal with that other individual.
ESTER: Okay. That makes sense. Yeah.
It's funny, the last couple of weeks since I got back and I've been talking to some my friends, like I said I was like, I'm so happy and I need to talk to somebody, and they've been using the word hedonistic, which is a negative word in the environment I grew up, to describe me. But I'm realizing that that's part of the predestination, because I'm seeing it now. Like this week I was like, Wow, that's actually a very beautiful word. (Elias laughs) The meaning of it is very beautiful, you know? I'm actually very happy that they are calling me this. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: Perhaps similarly to narcissistic. (Laughs)
ESTER: Yes, I was thinking about that, yes. I have become very narcissistic, let me tell you.
ELIAS: Which can be quite a lovely expression. (Laughs)
ESTER: Yes.
ELIAS: In the genuine appreciation of your wonderment.
ESTER: Yes. That's true.
ELIAS: And in this, my friend, I am greatly acknowledging of you, for you have generated significant movement in actually beginning to genuinely view the reality of your own gloriousness. (Pause)
ESTER: Yes.
ELIAS: That is to be tremendously acknowledged. (Pause)
ESTER: Yeah. I keep thinking, you know, it's like, Wow, I love this beginning, and I feel such a sense of excitement and wonder at having it. I cannot even imagine where I'm going. I'm so excited about it. (Both laugh) Because just yesterday I was driving and I was thinking, imagine this for eternity, forever. It was amazing. (Both laugh) Because I couldn't even contain it in this lifetime, you know?
ELIAS: I am aware.
ESTER: I’m like, Oh god, it's so wonderful!
ELIAS: (Chuckles) This is the action of stepping through that door into freedom. And although it may be unfamiliar, it is quite wondrous. (Chuckles)
ESTER: And I knew something was different coming back, because coming back is always very familiar. You feel all the weight of the familiar, of everything that is. And because there was a lot of playfulness in my life, you know? Silliness. Actually, it’s not playfulness [inaudible] silliness which I cut off from my life for a long time. And now that silliness, just little things happening: my car doing weird things, the lights doing weird things—everything doing little weird things that before I would have been upset about it, I would have known that it should have been fun but I would have been upset about it. And now I was like, Oh, that's so cool! (Both laugh) I wonder who's coming through, who am I connecting with right now, you know? I can feel you, I can feel Patel, I can feel Tompkin, and always myself from the future. It was like all this fun came [inaudible]. I’m starting to enjoy [inaudible], yes.
ELIAS: Congratulations. (Pause)
ESTER: Yeah, I just feel so full of passion.
ELIAS: And I would express to you, thank you for sharing your experience in happiness with myself (both laugh). For that is quite a preferred expression of friendship.
ESTER: Yeah. You're welcome. (Elias chuckles) I’m remembering times when I've not always had that happiness. I've always been more happy than I have been, but I also was afraid to show that.
ELIAS: And now perhaps you shall allow yourself to present it openly and freely and continuously.
ESTER: Yes. You know, I had Daryl in my mind, because she was the first one I started practicing on that. It was such a contrast. It was such an extreme from that, and for me to show my happiness to her it was [inaudible]. How much I appreciated her, but... you know, she was open to that too, and she was so happy for me too and so... (Long pause)
Thank you for loving me when I tell you all my stuff, yes.
ELIAS: You are very welcome, and I may express to you, that was quite easy. (Both laugh) It was much more difficult for you than it was for myself. But I am quite pleased that you have arrived at the point that you can express it with yourself. I knew that you could. (Pause)
ESTER: It was wonderful talking to you. My head hurts talking to you with my voice. (Both laugh)
ELIAS: And I express great appreciation to you, my friend. I shall be anticipating our next objective meeting and anticipating further reports of your joyful experiences and your excitement in your new adventures. And know that in being with you continuously, I am also continuously acknowledging of your movement. (Chuckles)
ESTER: I can feel that. Thank you.
ELIAS: In tremendous lovingness and dear friendship, au revoir.
(Elias departs after 61 minutes 27 seconds.)
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