Sexual Energy and Its Expressions
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20060706 (2032)
“Sexual Energy and Its Expressions”
“Equating Commitment with Monogamy”
“Hurt Feelings Are Not Created by Another Individual”
“To Clarify What You Want, Evaluate What You Value”
Thursday, July 6, 2006 (Private/Phone)
Participants: Mary (Michael), C and G
ELIAS: Good morning!
G: Good morning, Elias. How are you doing?
ELIAS: As always. And yourself?
G: Good, a little more relaxed after Mary and our conversation.
ELIAS: (Chuckles) And what shall we discuss?
G: Actually, we both wrote out some questions because it was just too much to do that...
C: … spontaneously and probably forget half of it.
G: Yeah. (Elias chuckles) I just wanted to start out by saying that C and I have been creating contentment to discontentment with our relationship, and topics that come up often: our sexual relationship and his physical health, which is prostate cancer. These are subjects that we both would like to address with you, and we have open communication on these topics and we’d like some insight on these subjects.
I was recalling a conversation you and I had a while ago in talking about sexual energy exchange with Danny, and when the feelings felt too intense I would go into a place in my head. And as I recall, this was out of fear of allowing myself to express myself, or even allow myself to have those feelings.
Now in this time, I’ve changed the sexual energy exchange into a physical exchange with C through this past year, and I’m feeling the same kind of fear but it’s a little bit different. It seems to be a push-pull action within myself to express feelings or not to express feelings in sexual actions to and with C. When I decide to express myself, C is not on the same page, so to speak, and I battle within myself, and I’m really tired of it and my feelings keep getting hurt.
I do realize that I fear the unknown, which holds me back. In that fear I create with C rejection, and C says he holds less interest in sexual expression and the intervals of expressing than I do. I know that I can’t change what HE feels, because he creates his own reality.
We’ve been talking about just being friends. Part of me is okay with it; part of me is NOT okay with it. I’m aware that the rejection that I’m creating is that fear again of truly loving myself and creating acceptance in the expression of love in the physical that it seems so overwhelming to me that I block the expression of it. My creation of the patterns and my past experiences with sexual interaction have created a shrine that’s pretty big, and I just don’t know how to accept it. I look at it and look at it and look at it, but I just can’t seem to understand or change what I keep creating over and over and over, and I just don’t want to do it anymore, so I need some insight as to what I can do.
ELIAS: Be specific as to what you are referring to in creating over and over again.
G: That push-pull where I’m feeling sexual within my body and affection towards C and I want to express it physically with him, and when I approach him, he is not in the mood or not on the same page and he’s kinda not interested, but he’s been very open to saying, “Okay, well, I’ll give it a try, let’s work on this.” But I feel like he’s not on the same page that I am in a way, but... And then at times we are together and it’s very fulfilling and it’s okay, and then I create it NOT being okay, so I keep doing this push-pull thing.
ELIAS: Very well. And you are also expressing that perhaps you may consider altering your relationship but you are not entirely comfortable with that either, and what are you not comfortable with in that?
G: Just becoming friends instead of a committed relationship?
ELIAS: Yes.
G: Just sadness of our closeness and the things that we like together that we share. And a part of me is afraid to be alone. I don’t enjoy being totally isolated and alone, so I feel like I keep isolating myself more and more from people, and I don’t like that. And we have a lot of the same interests, the same likes, and I really enjoy his company for the most part.
ELIAS: And what expresses to you that that should be, or must be, sacrificed?
G: We were kinda talking about that this morning, the idea of being committed to each other, meaning that we both don’t go out and have sex with other people, that we are committed to each other, that we try to work this out between ourselves instead of moving on, so to speak.
ELIAS: (Pause, sighing) Therefore you are equating commitment in relationship with monogamy.
G: (Pause) I didn’t quite understand what you said.
ELIAS: You are expressing that commitment in relationship is synonymous with monogamy.
G: Right. Yes, we are.
ELIAS: And you are both in agreement in that definition.
C: Yes.
G: Yes, I mean the definition is definitely there, but we were talking this morning about staying together in a sexual committed relationship, monogamous relationship with each other, but to have… you know, if he saw another person that he really wanted to be with in that same manner that he would have to tell me, or I would have to tell him, that we wouldn’t be having sex together anymore, because we talked about the whole belief system within disease and all of that. And I would probably have the issue of jealousy arise, meaning that I would feel inadequate and inferior and him-choosing-someone-else-over-me kind of idea—not that he would feel the same way, but I think I would at this point in time.
ELIAS: But for the most part, what you are expressing is that YOU incorporate the difficulty, and YOU would more likely be the individual that would be engaging sexual activity with another individual, not necessarily him.
C: I would agree with that.
ELIAS: For the interest and the drive is with you, [G’s essence name], and not the other individual. Therefore, the potential of the other individual to be expressing in that direction is quite small. Therefore, the issue of jealousy would not be yours.
G: Are you saying that it would be me looking for another mate to express myself with, and it would be C that would have the feeling of the jealousy?
ELIAS: [To C] Would you?
C: No.
ELIAS: And are you sure?
C: I’m not ABSOLUTELY sure, but that’s my impression. And I want to add one more thing to this, because she has a lot of questions and I have a lot of questions and obviously some of them are related, so I think we’re going to have to share your time. The sexual expressions we’re talking about have to do with more hugging or kissing or a little foreplay in the kitchen or whatever, and then she starts getting stimulated, and I’m expressing my feelings but I’m not thinking in terms of I want to continue the flow to orgasm or to having sex—you know, intercourse.
ELIAS: I am understanding.
C: All right. So this is her direction, where if I’m [inaudible] her or watching a movie and then we end up going to bed, well I’ve already ended the cycle on it, so to speak, and then I’m ready to go to sleep and she’s ready to fool around and I’m not in the mood. So she’s feeling that she can’t express and I’m rejecting her, and I’m like, “I’m not rejecting you; I’m just not feeling horny.” And I think part of it is because of the supplements I’m taking, where they told me that it would be affecting of my libido, or the hormone thing. And I’m wondering about the differentiation between the mental desire versus the physical chemical response in the body when you do get excited—you know, there’s that whole phenomenon going on there—or is this just a smokescreen on my behalf because deep down I really don’t want to have a committed relationship with her? Or, is this part of the duplicity of the mind playing its mind game, like now you have this, now you don’t want it?—you know, the grass is greener, I think I’m going to find happiness with somebody else. So that’s part of my side of the issue, but I wanted to get a little more clarity on the expressing things that we’re talking about frequently.
ELIAS: Yes. I am understanding.
C: All right. I figured you did.
ELIAS: In this, let us simplify. First of all, in relation to you and your physical manifestation, you are complicating your own situation in questioning whether you are deluding yourself, or whether you are protecting yourself, or whether you genuinely do not want to be generating the committed relationship, and with all of these questionings, there are actually simpler answers. For you do actually express an energy that this is what you want, that you do want to be generating this relationship and that you value it. You also are genuinely expressing a desire to express yourself in affection, but you are also genuinely expressing an energy of a lack of interest in actual sexual activity—which is not bad, and it is not being motivated by some underlying lack or fear of commitment, or that you are interested, or perhaps may be interested, in a different relationship. Your attention is occupied enough in this relationship that the potential of another relationship is not actually of interest to you. Thus far I am correct, correct?
C: Yes. (Elias chuckles) And you know, it occurred to me, on some level, that I keep getting other shit and it interferes with what’s right. For example, being in alignment with Zuli... and this whole line of the family stuff is new to me just from this last year; the last time and first time we talked was almost a year ago. So I’m getting re-educated in that aspect, so I think, “Oh, okay, the Zuli characteristics explain why I have so much attention on the physical body.”
A lot of times we’ll be walking around and I’ll see some girl with large breasts and I’m thinking, “Well, that’s the kind of girl I want for a girlfriend because I really like the form.” However, there’s another inside of me that thinks, “Well, I have no problem with [G’s essence name’s] breasts; I’m pretty fond of them, actually.” (Elias chuckles) But because I have that thought it throws me into doubt, and then I think, “Well, maybe that’s ALL I really want,” and then I get into that friggin’ hamster wheel shit. So I’m wondering, “Is that a preference, is that a desire [inaudible], or is it just distraction?”
ELIAS: You are merely misinterpreting your own expression and natural flow of energy. You are questioning and placing judgments upon a natural flow of energy, which in actuality is also quite simple. For in that alignment there is a genuine appreciation for beauty, and in that, there is a natural attraction to ANY expression that you perceive as beautiful or attractive. That is not to say that you necessarily want to engage that, but that you appreciate the presentment of the expression. Whether it be in the form of a woman or particular expressions of a woman, or whether it be in different expressions within your environment, it matters not. You incorporate a natural flow of energy that appreciates form and that is attracted to form that is not diminished in generating a relationship with one individual. It does not (pause) eliminate that natural expression of you. You do not automatically become partially blind now that you have chosen to be engaging a relationship.
C: Okay. I understand what you’re telling me, and it brings me a certain amount of relief. I have to take a little stand on that for a second. That does not discharge my responsibility for... This is a grey area perhaps for me. Like, we were in Sacramento and this girl drove by in a car and she was wearing a cute top and I thought it was kinda sexy. I sort of stuck my tongue out, and I looked at G and she picked up the energy flow there, that I was like acknowledging this woman’s breasts. And she got her feelings hurt, and we had a big ol’ discussion that night.
At that point I felt like a real shit because I thought I was being crude, as it were, I wasn’t being thoughtful and caring for the effect I would be creating on her, whereas I thought that it would be understood that I just acknowledging. I wasn’t like drooling on her, but that was… maybe a little bit, okay? Yeah, so there’s…
ELIAS: First of all, you do not create the other individual’s feelings. (Slowly and deliberately) And, although you may be caring in relation to another individual, you are not responsible for how they receive what you express.
Now; in being responsible to YOU, and being aware of yourself and being aware of your choices, you may consider other individuals if you know that a particular expression may trigger another individual. That is different, for that would be an intentional action in opposition to the other individual.
(Continuing the slow delivery) But—what is important for each of you to recognize is that hurt feelings is expressed in relation to yourself. This is an expression that is not generated by another individual. It may be triggered by the action of another individual, but the other individual is not creating that; you individually create that in association with defense or doubt. That is what creates hurt feelings: when you doubt yourself or when you are expressing defensiveness, both of which are an opposing energy; they oppose yourself
G: I’m understanding of that, and it was a feeling of doubt and insecurity.
ELIAS: Yes.
Now; in this, that would also be associated with the difficulty that you are experiencing in association with sexual activity and your expression of it and the lack of interest with the other individual. In this, let me also express, (pause) I acknowledge your response that you would not express jealousy if she chose to be sexually interactive with another individual but continued to generate the relationship with you as you incorporate now for, in actuality, in your energy I view that in some capacities it would almost be a relief, for it would be a release of a responsibility that you perceive you have.
C: Oh yeah. I told her several times over the months that she should get a younger boyfriend, somebody that wants to do it a lot more times and I can’t do it. First of all, I have a belief that I can’t do it because of my age and it’s just a biological thing, and second, I’ve got the prostate issue going on. And then there’s probably other emotional stuff, too.
ELIAS: But the question is: [G’s essence name], can you engage that type of action?
G: You mean have sex with another person and have a relationship with C?
ELIAS: Yes.
G: You mean a committed relationship with C?
ELIAS: Yes.
G: I don’t know!
ELIAS: THAT is the question.
G: I don’t know that I could do that. I don’t know.
ELIAS: In this, let me also express to you: Regardless of what you choose, you have already created a relationship, and in that relationship you share considerably with each other.
G: Yes.
C: We do.
ELIAS: Even if you choose not to be together in the capacity as partners, the relationship that you share (pause) is preserved. And it is not necessary to sacrifice the relationship that you share, whether you share a dwelling together or not. (Pause) For this has already been established. And in that sharing, you have created new expressions of yourselves. And in that, that cannot be taken away. The only manner in which that can be eliminated is if you each yourselves deny it. (Pause) Which, I would express to each of you, that would be, in your terms, a waste.
G: I believe we do have a very good open communication and respect for each other as to where we’re at and what we want and how we think and how we see things. I think we could keep the relationship that we have going whether we live together or not, but again, it feels sad.
ELIAS: (16-second pause) There are manners in which you can channel sexual energy not necessarily in sexual activities.
G: Can you explain that? I’m not understanding that.
ELIAS: Sexual energy is a physical expression of passion. That energy can be channeled in other directions which can be equally as satisfying and not necessarily involve sexual activity. It is a matter of recognizing what creates sexual energy that is motivated by passion.
G: Can you give me an example of another way to express the feeling I feel other than sexually? It seems like I’m learning how to feel this in a very different way than I have in the past, and now that I’m actually feeling it I want to express it in that manner. It has, you know, those types of feelings that...
ELIAS: I am understanding. I am merely offering information to you that this is not the only manner in which you can express that passion. But I am understanding that your preference presently is to allow yourself to explore new areas of sexual energy that you have not necessarily allowed yourself previously.
G: Correct. That’s true.
C: Elias, it’s my understanding that the orange chakra energy center, the creative center for sexual energy: some of the books I’m reading indicate that, let’s say you have a passion for painting; directing your sexual energy to a different area such as that, or whatever hobby or crafty thing you do...
ELIAS: (Affirming) Yes.
C: ...is an alternative means of directing that energy, because you have a passion in THAT area.
ELIAS: Yes. Or, some individuals may direct it in other physical activities that are physically engaging the body consciousness.
G: Like dance?
C: Masturbation?
ELIAS: It can be expressed in dance. It can be expressed in athletics. There are different physical expressions that also allow for that release of energy in that expression of passion. Individuals express that type of passion in association with skiing or sledding. They also express that type of passion in relation to vehicles, such as automobiles that drive very fast, or...
C: [Inaudible] like a rush.
ELIAS: Or boating. There are many physical expressions that can be engaged that will engage that same passion and will produce an outlet for that sexual energy.
G: It’s interesting that you say that, because I used to be quite passionate about gardening but it kind of subsided. I do enjoy going on walks and stuff, and I do know that it does release my built-up energy. And that’s partially why I enjoy going to work, is because I physically express that amount of energy. I’m aware that I hold a lot of energy in my body that I need to express, or want to express. But I’m...
ELIAS: I am understanding. But this is a new sensation and a new exploration, and you incorporate—
G: But I deny myself in that and say, “Okay, you can’t have that so you’d better go find something else to do.”
ELIAS: I am understanding. And it is not a matter of denying yourself; I’m merely offering suggestions and information that you do incorporate alternatives.
G: I can supplement, but you know I want to experience this, and I would like to experience it with C but his direction of desire isn’t the same as mine, so there’s an issue there that I get quite frustrated about. I know you’re giving me suggestions to shift my attention at points; maybe it would relieve some of it, but I don’t want to not focus on what I’m experiencing for like the first time in my life, and I’m 53 years old.
ELIAS: I am understanding, and this is the point. What is being expressed as the point in this discussion is not that you incorporate any of the suggestions or not; it is more prompting you to generate more clarity as to what you actually want, (pause) rather than moving in the circles of complication of what you should do or what you should not do or what you must sacrifice or what you must compromise, but simply moving into the identification of what you want.
G: Well, that’s the hard one! (Giggles) One day I’ll think, “This is what I want,” and then on the next day I think, “No, THIS is what I want,” and on the next day, “THIS is what I want.” So it’s like I can’t seem to come to any conclusion about what I really want.
ELIAS: Very well. The manner in which you can generate more clarity in relation to what you want is to evaluate what you value—what you have, what you value—and to genuinely assess in that evaluation of what you value what is what you anticipate value in and what you actually value.
G: Can you help me walk through that a little bit? Because I come up with a total blank screen.
ELIAS: What do you incorporate now that you value?
G: I value my relationship with C, I value the home that I live in and the area that I live in. I value the part-time job I have because it’s entertaining and fun and it’s good, and I value it to the point where at times I want it to continue being this way so I can look at it a little bit more, but other times I get really bored with it and want to change to something different: “Okay, let’s move on,” that kind of thing. But I do value my comfort and my relationship.
ELIAS: What do you value in the relationship?
G: I value the way that we communicate to each other, that we respect each other, that we have the same interests, we like to go camping and share in movies and books and rocks and mechanics and cooking. I value how we interact with each other.
ELIAS: Now; what can you identify that are ANTICIPATED valuings but are not ACTUAL expressions of value?
G: I’m not sure I understand what you’re asking.
ELIAS: What I am prompting you in is to genuinely view and to generate a clarity into what you already have and what you value in that, and in recognition of that to also recognize that your expression of restlessness is concerning IDEAS that you PERHAPS shall value. You are generating this association that you may be missing some expression, but that is merely an anticipation, therefore you are placing value upon experiences that you do NOT have.
G: Hm.
C: Or want to have and reject.
ELIAS: You are placing a false value upon an idea of what MAY be created rather than what IS being created. (Pause)
What is it that you want that you do not already possess, other than expressing yourself sexually in this new manner?
G: I guess I would really like to feel that I love myself.
ELIAS: (Gently) Ah! And as we have discussed many times previously, that restlessness and that searching continues endlessly until the point that you ARE comfortable with yourself and not questioning any longer and are accepting and loving yourself in the genuine expression of it, of knowing yourself and appreciating yourself. That is the genuineness of love—which is what you are seeking, but you are attempting to fulfill that and satisfy that in expressions outside of yourself.
When you fulfill that and satisfy that within yourself, it will not be a matter of settling for the idea of less; it will be the genuine recognition and appreciation for what you have created and how effectively you have created it—without the fear of loss, and without the restless wandering. (Pause)
C: Okay, my turn—she’s processing.
So with this kind of area we’re talking about, in my own ego, patting myself on the back, I used to be quite a sexual stud, as it were, so this ties into... My next question is on the prostate cancer issue. When I was married to Kim, I had this very severe belief of “until death do us part,” and I was unhappy in our marriage until the point that I think that I created the cancer because this was my way out of the relationship. Looking at that emotionally, over the past nine months I felt that, okay, I could see that that would happen. I tried to do some imagery, and I bought the SCIO to use, I tried certain homeopathic stuff. Back in January I first got the SCIO, I was using it for three months and I had thought that it would be helping to get my prostate PSA score down and it went up. So then I thought, “Well, it’s not the machine, it’s me not knowing how to use it,” so I went and took the course to learn how to use it and I realized that I really didn’t know how to use it, and then I had this confidence that now it would work better because I’m more educated in how to use the machine.
Plus, I was taking these new products from another doctor, who said it cured tens of thousands of people because of the nutritional aspect. And my liver enzymes were really high, like 260, 160 instead of in the 40 range, and my PSA went from 80 to 100-and-something, and I got it retested and my liver scores dropped down to 40. So I thought, “Okay cool, the homeopathic seem to be working, my liver now is normal, but yet the PSA went up,” so then that leaves me skeptical if the machine’s working, if the pills working. Opan says that it might seem that but it’s not that, it’s just part of the process, you’re on the right path, just keep doing what you’re doing.
So I wanted to do two things here: one, get some validation that my intent with the SCIO is workable and it does help, I’m just being impatient because I’m a pushy fucking guy. And the second thing is, am I going in the right direction with my looking at emotional beliefs creating the cancer, and is it not getting better because I haven’t completely addressed an issue there?
ELIAS: To the first aspect of your question concerning the machine, yes.
C: It’s helpful?
ELIAS: Yes.
C: Okay, thank you.
ELIAS: And to your impatience, I also concur.
C: Okay. (Laughs)
ELIAS: To the second aspect of your question, in association with what motivated you to create this dis-ease, you are also correct. And, as to your continued creation of it, that continues to be a factor.
C: What’s the factor? That I haven’t resolved some issue with Kim, or just...?
ELIAS: No.
C: Okay.
ELIAS: It is the influence of the belief concerning commitment.
C: Ahh! So our relationship is keeping it activated right now because I haven’t resolved that.
ELIAS: No, you are engaged in another relationship, which involves commitment. It matters not WHAT relationship you are engaging; it is the association of commitment itself.
C: With G.
ELIAS: Yes.
C: That’s [G’s essence name]. Okay. All right, I’m done with that. So what do I have to address or look at to resolve that issue so I can live happily ever after and I can get rid of the cancer and I then I’ll screw like a wild animal?
ELIAS: (Laughs) I would express exploring the influences of commitment and that it does not require death as proof of your commitment or loyalty.
C: Do I have a blockage on wanting to commit because I got burned before?
ELIAS: No.
C: Okay, cool.
G: I have a question, since we have like five minutes left. I communicate quite often with Opan, my little pal. He wants to have some [inaudible] validated, which is 3.2 and 3.3.
ELIAS: You may express to him to reserve these questions and he may address to them with myself.
G: Okay. All right.
C: Originally I got the SCIO to help myself, and then I thought if I can help myself with it then I’ll be convinced that it works, and then I can use it on other people because then I won’t be just a salesman; I would be like it helped cure myself, this can help you cure yourself—even though you CURE yourself, it’s just going to help you, that type of thing. What’s the probability of me being successful and doing that as a career, as it were?
ELIAS: That is dependent upon how you engage yourself first.
C: Okay. [Inaudible]
ELIAS: Yes. If you choose to create that, you may actually be successful in inspiring other individuals.
C: Excellent. Because I got a whole probability field looked at in that direction and I was wondering how real that was.
Another question: I’ve had this cough for a month, and [inaudible] I get short of breath. Last week when we were talking, and—maybe it was this week—and we decided that we weren’t on the same page where she had her desires and I had mine, I sorta had this feeling that we’ve agreed to break up. At that point my cough went away completely for 24 hours, and then the next morning we were kinda being chummy again and then I was leaning in the direction like, “Well, I guess we’re staying together,” and the cough came back and I still have problems with it off and on. And I’m wondering, is that related to the commitment issue?
ELIAS: It is not an issue with commitment, as I have expressed to you previously. You do not actually incorporate an issue with commitment with this individual. What is the obstacle is your association with responsibility, incorporating personal responsibility for [G’s essence name] in providing and performance, which creates tension.
G: But I don’t require that.
ELIAS: It matters not. That is his perception and association that it is being generated inwardly as a “should:” “I should be expressing in this manner, I should be producing in this manner, I should be performing in this manner.” Whether you are requesting or requiring that or not, matters not.
G: Is that why he has that kind of conflict when I mention part-time work, or something like that?
ELIAS: Yes.
C: [To G] How I “should” be. [Inaudible discussion between C and G]
Okay. Let’s try a little quick one here. Previously I told you about an experience I had with my eyes and I was seeing colors in the shape of a doughnut. You told me about a bleed-through; I didn’t know what that was, but now I do. The other day we were driving back from Sacramento and I had a similar experience—not exactly the same, but there were multiple colors in my periphery this time. It was not directly in front of my vision like it had been. It was in the periphery of my right eye mostly and a little bit in my left eye on the top. And at the time I thought, “Now I’m just going to pay attention and see what happens and not be freaked out about it,” and it was quite pleasant to look at and I had this warm, peaceful feeling over my body. I was wondering what I was actually looking at, what’s the imagery there, is this energy centers I’m becoming aware of? I wonder whether you could elaborate on that.
ELIAS: That would be more associated with other-dimensional focuses.
C: The same as the last time [previous session].
ELIAS: For what you are allowing in an openness is, you are allowing partially, and in translation, your vision to incorporate some of the visual, or the manner in which the visual sense is expressed by the other focus. In a manner of speaking, partially you are allowing yourself to see in the manner that the other focus sees.
C: How do I improve that?
ELIAS: Merely by allowing, and when it begins, to relax.
C: Ah! And the last thing you told me at the end of the session, you said “RELAX!” (Elias chuckles) Do I seem a little more relaxed to you this time?
ELIAS: Somewhat, yes.
C: (Laughs) Somewhat? I’ll take that as a cool thing, all right? (Elias laughs)
So, do I have any connection with Lawrence? The last time we talked I said I’d see you in October at the public session with Lawrence, and I meant to say [G’s essence name], and then she reminds me there’s no mistake. And then for Christmas I gave Mary a Yoda, and she asked me what my motivation was on that. And last week I had used a phrase and [G’s essence name] told me that was a phrase that Lawrence used to use, so we were wondering if I have some kind of connection.
ELIAS: Counterpart.
C: Counterpart?
ELIAS: Yes.
C: Perhaps you can explain that one to me later.
ELIAS: (Laughs) And therefore there is some influence in that in connecting energies.
C: You can have a counterpart with someone that’s disengaged?
ELIAS: Yes.
C: Is she in Regional Area 4 now?
ELIAS: No. (Elias laughs)
C: Is she the only friend I have in high places?
ELIAS: (Laughs) Not quite, my friend! (Laughs)
C: All right. Well, we’re done.
ELIAS: Very well. I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and I offer my encouragement and supportiveness to each of you.
G: Yeah, I could definitely could use it. (Laughs)
ELIAS: And so you have it. (Chuckles)
C: Thanks, Elias.
ELIAS: To you in great appreciation and lovingness, au revoir.
C: Au revoir.
Elias departs after 1 hour 2 minutes)
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