Friday, June 09, 2006 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Joanne P. (Saaran)

(Arrival time is 19 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

JOANNE: Good morning, Elias. How are you?

ELIAS: As always, and yourself?

JOANNE: I’m wonderful.

ELIAS: Ah!

JOANNE: Ah! (Elias chuckles)

JOANNE: I'd like to start out with a few gentle things first. I have impressions of two friends of mine. John—well, they're actually friends of my son, but they’re my friends too—for his essence name, I don’t know, so maybe you could give me that? And I’ll do his essence family alignment; I think it’s Sumafi/Vold.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: And I get the impression that he's political?

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: And is he common?

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: And his essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name Ocia, O-C-I-A.

JOANNE: Okay, Ocia. And he’s Sumafi, not Sumari, right? That’s a little bit confusing for me.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: Sumafi.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: And the number of focuses he has in this physical dimension?

ELIAS: One thousand two hundred forty-one.

JOANNE: And how many have we shared together?

ELIAS: Sixty-eight.

JOANNE: Okay. Sixty-nine might have been a better number (laughs); anyway, we won’t go there. (Elias chuckles)

(Inaudible)—I get the impression that he is Sumari/Ilda.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: Okay. That he's soft.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: Okay, and emotional?

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: Okay, and number of focuses that he has?

ELIAS: (Pause) Nine hundred twenty-two.

JOANNE: And have we shared a number of focuses together?

ELIAS: Fifty-five.

JOANNE: And how many have I shared with my son?

ELIAS: (Pause) Seventy-two.

JOANNE: What is (inaudible)’s name, his essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name Dylla, D-Y-L-L-A.

JOANNE: Wow, that’s a great name. Okay, wonderful.

Now, this question actually goes back for a bit. I’ve had a couple of people, one fellow who was doing like an energy healing, and I was also down in Mexico, and very shamanistic-like, very native people were doing a type of healing massage, and both say that I have this energetic scar in my back between my heart and my green and yellow centers. What is that, or IS there something there?

ELIAS: (Pause) I am understanding. This would be an area in which you hold energy which has been held for a considerable time framework.

JOANNE: Okay, am I still holding it, or am I...? Another impression is almost like that's where I leave my body too, like my escape route, but...

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct in that also, but I would express that you are dissipating that somewhat.

JOANNE: What is the benefit for me to hold it there? It’s just this lifetime, or just the store of energy from all of my focuses?

ELIAS: No; this focus.

JOANNE: Okay.

ELIAS: It is not associated with other focuses.

JOANNE: And does it have a lot to do with my dad, or generally a pattern that I have run into in...?

ELIAS: It is more associated with holding energy in relation to hurt.

JOANNE: Okay, and is there... am I naturally dissipating it, or is there something that I can do to help that process along?

ELIAS: You are already dissipating it in the movement that you are generating now and the movement that you have been generating, allowing yourself more exposure and allowing yourself to be more familiar with you, and offering yourself more permission to express yourself in what you want and not restricting yourself as much as you were previously.

JOANNE: I feel like there has been HUGE movement on that for me.

ELIAS: Yes. I would be in agreement.

JOANNE: Okay, one of the things that I wanted to talk to you about today is that I feel like I am at the point of actually manifesting it. There are a number of aspects to this, but I’m finding that the more I go inward, the more I expand.

ELIAS: Correct!

JOANNE: Okay, and I really, really enjoy this getting to know myself, in that if something happens, like I’m almost treating my world as a mirror, but not necessarily that... say someone reflects something back to me that’s a aspect of me, but it could be something that I'm judging or seeing like that, where before I would feel afraid of it, I now know that I have the ability to, in my journaling or in my awareness, understand what those messages are…

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: ...very clearly. Now in doing this, though, there is... I just want to clarify with you about thought creating our reality, because I’m thought focused – that’s naturally where I go – and it has been a journey for me to adjust my interaction with thought in my life. And I was drawn to some material, the Abraham material. I was introduced to it years ago. I didn’t do anything, but all of a sudden it came up again and I was drawn to it. And they talk about thoughts being very important, and so on. However, it was very interesting that as I was listening to the material, I understood that it isn’t the thought the way that we normally think about thought that they're talking about, and that it was more that our intent, or my being, my wanting, my desire—whatever you want to call it—my energy inside creates my emotion, and that emotion is interpreted by my thoughts, and because the thought is the most tangible aspect of that process, that is why everyone gets so caught up in thought creating the reality, when in effect it’s almost like the last part of the whole process.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: Is that right?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

JOANNE: Okay.

ELIAS: In this, thought FOLLOWS the process; it INTERPRETS what you have already expressed.

JOANNE: And what you're focusing on.

ELIAS: Correct, for it interprets where your attention is focused.

JOANNE: Okay. So when they, when people say, well, visualize or use your imagination, or use your thought because your thoughts are what is drawing the situation – like attracts like – the way I am interpreting this is, don’t grab so tightly onto my thought and try and shape my thought, to actually allow myself the space to let forward what my natural inclination is, which will in turn create the emotion and the thought.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: So this is – I feel like I’ve gone so far, that there is so much energy running through me lately, Elias, that I feel like I’m reprogramming, like my physical brain feels like I’m reprogramming it or something. It’s like sponge or something, it's firing physically in all different areas, like I’m opening up aspects of it. Is that...?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, and expanding.

JOANNE: Okay. Now in that, I feel like I’m at the place of manifesting, but let me tell you what I have experienced lately, and one of the aspects of this is that I am redefining terms. For example, exposure. A lot of people have been talking about that, and I felt very vulnerable in the sense that I had to tell everyone everything and just leave it up to them to judge and so on. And I recognize that there were a lot of religious connotations on that, like there was a belief in there for me. And in that process of self, I also recognized that for me, my redefinition of exposure is for me to be genuine in my expression at any point in time, and that there are certain aspects that I am playing with, things that I am tinkering with in my being, that I don’t WANT to share with other people and that I don’t HAVE to share with other people until I choose to.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: And that that is really what exposure is – the genuineness of me at any moment.

ELIAS: Yes, and your allowance of yourself to be aware and to be accepting of yourself and your processes in any moment.

Exposure is not necessarily sharing.

JOANNE: Okay.

ELIAS: Individuals interpret exposure in a similar manner to honesty; and generally speaking, the manner in which they define these terms is to be openly sharing every aspect of themself with other individuals. This is not exposure. This is not what I express to you when I am speaking with you concerning exposure.

Exposure is the lack of hiding. That is not to say that it is necessary that you share every aspect of information of yourself with other individuals; that is your choice, and it is not necessary. Exposure is for yourself, not TO other individuals—being aware of yourself, not blocking, not hiding from yourself, not being secretive. It is the lack of secrets and the lack of hiding, the willingness to risk genuinely accepting yourself in every capacity.

JOANNE: And I believe, or I’m experiencing, that that is what I am doing and it’s going inward. There are no holds barred.

ELIAS: Yes, and this also allows you to receive. For in not generating exposure, individuals create shields; in some expressions and in some directions, those shields may be dissipated or lowered, but in other situations or expressions they are raised, and that prevents the individual from receiving. And in the prevention of receiving, you limit yourself and do not allow yourself to experience to the fullest of what you can.

JOANNE: And the basis for that for me is the receiving of my own information, and from that openness of receiving, then I feel like I'm able to receive or create what I want to get physically.

ELIAS: Yes, and that is the point.

JOANNE: Because what is ending up happening is that as I’m – like, sometimes I’ll be writing and I’ll think it’s about one thing, but I've learned how to just allow. And sometimes one seemingly unrelated little phrase will come into my mind, and I could ignore it, but usually I just follow it, and it’s like, hey, where did that come from? And it usually opens up a huge awareness—it’s magical to me. Like the other day, it was like, just because you can doesn’t mean you have to do it. That was something that opened up hugely for me, because I’ve always felt that because I’m capable—like what I’m working with now is that I am a very capable person—and what I was doing was I was hiding my capabilities. And my process has been to actually ALLOW myself to see all of these capabilities and just let them be there. I don’t have to… they're just energies, like tools that I can pull in as I choose to do whatever I choose to do in my life, that I don’t have to hide them. And I don’t have to engage them just because I have them.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: It’s just like a buffet – I can choose to use whatever I want.

ELIAS: I am greatly acknowledging of you. This is significant.

JOANNE: I feel like this is why I've been carrying weight in my body too. I've been hiding all these things that were actually glorious aspects of my being that I have not acknowledged.

ELIAS: Yes. And I express congratulations to you, for this is a significant revelation.

JOANNE: I think so too. I feel really, really excited. I feel like there is so much... it’s like I've passed a halfway mark or a place where it is irrelevant to focus on anything except on where I am right now in my going, in my creating, and to bring in doubt is... I’m not interested in kind of going there anymore, because it really pulls me off of this excitement that I'm experiencing about what I'm creating now.

ELIAS: (Chuckles) I am understanding, and now you begin the journey into GENUINE freedom.

JOANNE: I would like to share with you what happened the other day—well, it’s been happening progressively. I kind of get these images; one was about bodies, that I was incubating a new body and so on, and I actually came to grips with—like I’ve always hated my body, and—but I had this experience of actually seeing it and understanding its expression as its help to me or its communication to me. And I felt this integration of my lean, strong and healthy body that I have wanted or that feels natural to me, and it kind of felt like it’s integrated and I’m just kind of allowing that process. So that was one of the things that happened.

And another one was, I just all of a sudden felt myself as this sorcerer, and I know that sounds fanciful, and I’m not really a fanciful kind of person, so it was very like, oh gee, I’ve found, you know—but I was interested in what I was saying. And what it was, was me connecting with my creative force, my ability to create whatever I wanted, and it is such a strong feeling. It’s like it’s time for me to take my place. Why am I denying self, and that it’s become so clear to me that the denying of me, of anything in my life, does not create anything better for anyone else.

ELIAS: You are quite correct.

JOANNE: So if I deny myself wealth, I’m not making anyone else richer.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: if I make myself sick, I'm not making anyone else healthier.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: So this, all of a sudden it came to me, it was like I’ve denied for so long, it just didn’t make any sense why—I think it was just the falling away of it, but – so I was standing there, and this sorcerer that is SO CONFIDENT in her alignment and her centeredness and her abilities, and then over a couple of days she actually integrated into me. I feel that energy in me all the time now, and this is the energy that I’m a little bit adjusting to, because it’s almost like I can hardly breathe with it, it’s so exciting and big. And there’s just a little piece of worry that it’s going to be snatched away because I’ve lived in such polarity, but I’m not worrying about that. What I really want to do is keep cultivating this feeling, or this state of being, is more like what it is, that I am creating. I am now creating, ACTIVELY directing the creation of my life. Any comments on that?

ELIAS: Which is extraordinary, is it not?

JOANNE: Well, it feels really amazing, because what’s happening is like, for example, with body – yesterday I was having a horrible—just creating my day, and I’ll talk to you about that in a minute. But with my body I’ve been unhooking cause and effect with it. I feel on one hand that my natural body is forming, whatever it is, that all the aspects that I have used to hide—hiding has been a big thing for me—and shove these aspects and capabilities in has been about weight things in my body, and now as I am letting them go, my body naturally forms... I’m choosing what I want, and at the same time, yesterday I really wanted to eat dessert type of food or chocolate – chocolate has been really important lately, and I was trying to understand what the energies were underneath. But in eating it I felt so free, but it wasn’t a “screw you” kind of freedom like a rebellion; it was like, this is what I want, and I did it. And it’s almost like now I don’t have the ability to diet anymore. Even though I may have the thought focus, like my mind saying, oh you should be restricting this, and I have that intent with my mind, I am unable to do it physically. (Elias laughs)

JOANNE: (Laughing) But I lost a pound yesterday. I was like, okay, this is very cool.

ELIAS: (Laughing) But for you, the action of incorporating the diet would be contrary to the movement that you are engaging, for that would be another expression of restricting yourself.

JOANNE: Yes.

ELIAS: And in this movement, that is precisely what you are NOT doing, is restricting. You are allowing yourself to flow in your natural flow of energy, and you are acknowledging yourself and acknowledging your power and your abilities and appreciating yourself. And that generates a very different perception and a very different reality.

And in that, you can accomplish great feats, for you are not restricting yourself. You are allowing yourself to experience the fullness of your own strength and of your own power. And I, my friend, am tremendously acknowledging of you. I am aware of the determination that you have expressed, and the perseverance, and I am also aware of the struggle that you have expressed in this process. But now you have unlocked the door and have allowed yourself to step outside.

JOANNE: I feel like I’m in a whole new landscape, which is – you know, I’m not choosing to go back. If it’s illusional I don’t care, it doesn’t really matter, but... thank you. I really am appreciating myself too, and your help and interaction along the way as well, because my teachers have been very profound for me.

So my impression of what’s going on is, I have made a choice in my being that I am going to create whatever I want. And I have known for a long time that if I choose and my choice is to be physically manifest, I want to experience all that this reality has to offer. Mary and I were talking about this, where there are people who are totally enlightened and all that stuff, but to me it’s like, okay, well if you’re always happy and you never get angry when you are enlightened and you see things from a different perspective, but to me it’s like another form of restricting myself again.

ELIAS: Yes, for that is the denial of all of the experiences that you can generate in your reality. You have designed this reality quite purposely and precisely, and it is very diverse and intricate, and that provides for ENDLESS explorations. Why should you deny yourself any of them?

JOANNE: And in my being, I don’t want to; that is, I'm standing there as this person, this sorcerer, this creator who is saying you don’t have to.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: Go choose what you want to create.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: And I’m not quite there yet, because this is such an ingrained aspect, but just this past two days I feel like my body is forming in and of itself. And I feel like I made a choice actually last weekend that it would kind of freak me out if I lost like 50 pounds overnight, so I felt that I would do this in a process of a couple of months or something, that it will just naturally do—my body will just naturally form in line with this intent or this whatever…

ELIAS: Yes!

JOANNE: And that I can also enjoy every aspect of food or exercise in relation to what I want in the moment, not what I think I have to do to form that body.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. This is the point. It is not a matter of forcing; it is a matter of allowing. It is not a matter of "should;" it is a matter of "want."

JOANNE: And the cause and effect is unhooked from that.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: Yes. And what has also happened for me is that as I go about my day, I am now seeing the world in certain ways that—well, for example, I’ll see a man that I'm attracted to, or whatever, and I recognize that what I'm doing is not saying I want that man, but what I'm doing is I'm collecting information on what, fine-tuning what my preferences are—

ELIAS: Ah.

JOANNE: --that there is something about that attraction that is drawing me, and it's either something that I need to feel in myself, like for example only this person can show me love, like I was doing with John for a while, and I recognized that no, no, what I'm asking for is to be filled with that energy in myself all the time, not that I'm looking for someone else to fill something in me; I already have access to that.

However, we also – this piece has always been something that I’ve been playing with, where I need to do everything on my own and be independent, so where do other people come into this? I’m getting to the point where I am choosing—like I understand in my energy that I have everything. I have actually not wanted to be with people and have respected that part of being soft. That has been really important to me, to go into myself and respect that. And I LOVE myself. I LOVE things about me; I'm so unique and interesting that I can spend all my days (laughing) being interested in me! Elias laughs)

But I also want to engage in the world; that’s not something that I want to limit. And in engaging, I’m really picking and choosing the aspects that I want. In other words, I’m not limiting my choice of preferences to what I know now.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: So I'm going to stop talking, and maybe you can comment on that a little bit. Is that what we do to create what we want?

ELIAS: You can. It is a willingness to allow, and in that allowance you are orchestrating but you are not forcing, and you allow for a flexibility that whatever is being created is a puzzle piece and will fit together. But how it fits together is dependent on whether you are allowing the unfolding and paying attention to the process or whether you are focused upon the outcome to the extent that you force the pieces to fit together in manners that are less comfortable or that do not generate the picture that you want. In this, as you are allowing yourself to watch and pay attention to the processes and are generating an openness to what is unfamiliar or new or unknown, that allows you a greater base to create from.

JOANNE: Three things that I've been chatting with you about for years – and it just occurred to me why I've chosen these three things – one is body, one is money, and the other is relationship. And it occurred to me that the reason why I selected these three things is that my perception was that I manifest them; the process of manifesting them is different. The body is so connected to force, like it’s an extension of me in a physical expression, an extension of my essence, I guess. The money seems almost intangible to me. It’s creating something from no thing. And relationship requires the cooperation of another being, another essence. So it was very cool, and I was like Oh, so this is why.

Now, since I’ve noticed that, I have been allowing that the manifestation of all of these is the same, even though I don’t quite understand this. The body part I think I’m working with, like, I’m getting that. Actually, all of them – as I shift one, the other one shifts, so everything’s all interconnected anyway. But as you were talking, I want to use those as examples of what you were just saying, and so for example, money.

For some reason I am not worried about money, and I haven’t worked for money in three years, not attentively anyway—well, (inaudible), but anyway...in this place of knowing, or this creative source or whatever, there is such an encouragement just to create that projection, not to deny the receiving of that into my life. And I did a whole bunch of writing about it the other day as well. You and I talked about creating the lottery, and I am not wanting any type of manifestation in this; I don’t believe I am anyway – you can comment on that in a minute – but I felt that it would be so funny if I created this just because it was almost like a validation to me. Not a proving; it didn’t feel like proving, it felt like a validation, a very fun way of going to (inaudible). It's almost like me stepping from the place of almost being confident to just taking it on: this is it, I’ve done it, I have given myself this example in such a way that, you know, there’s no going back.

Now; am I creating blocks there? A piece of guilt came up about the not working as I was talking to you which I am getting distracted by at the moment, but...(Elias chuckles) Can you talk about my process in my relationship with the money, then?

ELIAS: I would express to you, what I view in your energy is that you have allowed yourself much more to relax. In relation to that, when I express to you that you are allowing yourself to relax, I am not referring to any previous expression of concerning yourself with money necessarily, for you have allowed yourself to not concern yourself with money for the most part, for quite an extended time framework, but you HAVE expressed a rigidness with it. You have expressed a rigidness in restricting yourself and your movement and not allowing yourself to engage what you want and holding to the IDEA of money as a foundation of security, and in recent time framework you have allowed yourself to relax that rigidity and allow yourself more flexibility—not concentrating upon the holding of it, but moving your attention in a different manner in which you are allowing yourself permission to engage what you want without the concern of the money, which is allowing yourself a natural flow.

And in that, you are correct: it is the same as with the body or with relationships – you are allowing for the natural expressions and occurrences and the natural receiving. You are allowing for yourself to receive the natural movement of your body, that it can direct itself in accordance with your intention without you forcing it and without you opposing yourself. You can also allow yourself your own expressions in what you want in relation to money without opposing yourself by forcing or by generating that rigidness in which you hold to it and deny yourself.

This also is applicable to relationships: rather than forcing yourself in association with certain guidelines, you are allowing yourself to listen to yourself and to become more familiar with your preferences in what you want. And in that, you also allow for a more natural flow of energy. You are correct: they are all interconnected, and the manner in which you approach any particular direction is the same, is to allow and to be aware of your preferences and not to be expressing that rigidness or opposing yourself IN that rigidness.

JOANNE: How specific does one need to get with preferences? What I'm recognizing for me is that that is almost a state of knowing. For example, my preference for the body that I choose, it just IS, like I almost don’t need to fiddle around with saying Okay, it has to be this way or that way, or not making any lists.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: And with money, it is. For example, with the money, I have this impression to go to Hawaii; well, I booked a trip to Hawaii, I’m going there and I’m going to be going even further into myself. I want to be alone, completely alone. And I also have this impression that I may want to go to Peru, but that I want to fly, and it came to me the certain flight to take, which is like a business class or first class flight, which costs quite a lot more, and it stops in a certain city, in Houston, and then goes on to Peru. And I just feel like I should just do it! And the other aspect – oh, it's very quiet now, but it's still there a little bit in that, well, you know if you spend that much more, the money’s going to run out that much faster. It’s very quiet, but it’s still there. But then there’s a knowing inside of me that money is just going to flow in my life, like don’t even pay attention, just pay... it’s almost like don’t gauge what I want to do by how much money I have, just do what I want to do, and the rest will follow.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: And you're right, the security piece is important to me. Now, this came up for me the other day where I was trying to fight against my desire to create millions of dollars in my life. And it’s not necessarily millions of dollars; what I really want at the base of it is to have creative abundance in my life regardless of the form of expression that it takes in our world. So for example, if money becomes irrelevant, something else – whatever is the form in the time period that I am in – that constitutes abundance of experience and everything else, that I create that.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: So, that I see money—money has a lot of stuff attached to it – is because money IS important in our world right now. To deny that, I think, is to be blind a little bit, to be hiding information.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

JOANNE: Is that accurate?

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: Okay. So it took a lot for me to say money IS an aspect of abundance. To deny myself money does not make anyone else richer and does not enhance my life in any way.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: So to choose to create millions of dollars or beautiful homes, all that stuff, that I CAN choose that.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: And when I talk about that to you, I feel such a huge expansion in my being, that by doing that it is such a celebration.

ELIAS: I am in agreement, for what you are recognizing now is that in valuing yourself, why should you not allow yourself your preferences? Why should you deny yourself of any expression, and why should you not match any of your expressions with the measure of how you value yourself?

JOANNE: And to match those internal expressions with manifesting physically.

ELIAS: Yes!

JOANNE: Because one of the pieces that I became a little bit confused about was the difference between soft and common in actual manifestation physically. And I know that I misinterpreted it, but manifesting physically is important to me—I’m a soft person. Like, I don’t want to have the energetic experience which I feel so strongly; I want to have BOTH the energy and my complete connection to that AND that expression in physical reality.

ELIAS: Your orientation is not associated with creating physical reality. ALL of the orientations are associated with this reality, and in this reality this is what you do—you create physical manifestations.

JOANNE: Okay, so a soft person isn’t any less likely to manifest, let’s say money for example, than a common person.

ELIAS: No! That is not the point. The point of that difference is the perception of it and what is more important to the particular orientation. Not that any of the orientations do not want to create and DO create outcomes, but you do it in different manners. The common individual is more focused upon productivity. The soft individual wants to create outcomes but is also more focused in the processes.

JOANNE: So in MY life, actually, I was so focused on the outcomes, which was probably why I felt so confused, because being soft, it was important for me to come back to the process.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: And I drew myself to such amazing creations, Elias. I created such complex and intricate scenarios that now I look on as such beautiful tapestries almost, or plays that went on, and I got it. I got that it’s not about forcing the outcome; it’s about allowing the process. And in that, what I am noticing in my life is when I draw myself to a scenario that does not fit my preference, I notice that it is not about me buckling down and changing myself in any way to just because I can possibly have an effect doesn’t mean that I have to do it.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: If I am not aligned with the, like, brick situation where I’m part of a foundation, that I just feel like I would have to be the vision holder, I would have to be all of these things, and I don’t want to DO that. And so it was like, this is for you to recognize, that you don’t have to do something out of obligation, that you get to choose...

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: ...what you want to engage in.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: And so I appreciate that experience for allowing me to see another piece that I have choice in that I didn’t recognize.

ELIAS: Yes. And in this, as I have expressed previously, you incorporate many, many, many abilities. That is not to say that you choose to engage all of them; you choose to engage the abilities that ARE your preferences. Any individual incorporates the capability and the ABILITY to generate ANY expression within your reality. BUT in association with your preferences, your personality, your direction, you choose SOME abilities to express.

JOANNE: And that can change.

ELIAS: Yes, and it DOES change, for preferences change.

JOANNE: Yes, I notice for myself that sometimes I’ll want to do something for a certain period of time and it’s like, okay, I’m done with that, I want to move on to something else.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: And it’s the ability to know when we reach those points, and the only way we know is by paying attention in the moment.

ELIAS: Correct.

JOANNE: Otherwise it just keeps going and going, it’s something that we’ve acquired by attrition and we never let it go.

ELIAS: Correct, and you continue to express in a particular direction, and once it is not a preference any longer, it becomes a chore.

JOANNE: Yes, exactly. And then we feel like a victim, although I’m really, really aware of when I feel like a victim, because that’s not my preference to live that way.

One of the other things that has come up with this sorcerer is I feel like a victim. What I'm recognizing is that in my preference for creating my life, I drew myself to a seminar last weekend where this fellow creates huge abundance in his life. He is a natural healer. So he works like one weekend a month or whatever, and this is what I am recognizing, that I can create my life for myself with my huge beautiful property and my time for myself AND also engaging other people. Now, what has shifted for me in the knowing of myself is that I don’t see myself as having to fix anyone or that there is anything wrong. I actually see more of the perfection in the world, that every situation is perfect and accept it—it doesn’t need to be fixed. However, I also want to engage other people. I feel this huge presence in myself that I am some type of beacon as an example, not as someone who is preaching.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: Is this a calling that I’m experiencing? Or, I don’t like that word... I was sitting in my office the other morning, it was early in the morning, my sleep has been very disrupted lately, and I just had this huge impression that I also have the ability to channel. I think I might channel as I’m writing my stuff. Am I doing that?

ELIAS: At times.

JOANNE: Okay, and I’ve asked to become more aware of it. Is there some movement that I'm creating an agreement with a nonphysical like yourself that I will be channeling or merging or doing something like that?

ELIAS: It is a potential.

JOANNE: It is a potential. Does the essence of Rose have anything to do with this?

ELIAS: There is a lending of energy.

JOANNE: It keeps coming up lately really strong, and I almost feel like there is a connection between that essence and something that I will be creating or have the potential to create in the future. I’m creating it now, but it’s almost like a bringing together or something. I don’t have a clear anything on it; it’s just like an impression.

ELIAS: And I am validating of your impression.

JOANNE: Okay, so just keep letting that be, and whatever it does, it does.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: Okay, so is there anything – like, I feel like I’m standing there, I’m creating what I want energetically, for example, money, body, relationship. I feel like I’m already creating all of these things. And do I need to keep feeding that in a sense that putting in my laundry list? At what point does a manifestation occur? I know it’s not as black and white as the question sounds. We feed our preferences into it feels like this energy machine that I am, I’m feeding them in and I’m projecting them, I feel. Like I am connecting with everything, drawing everything to me or whatever, and at some point that becomes physical.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: Okay.

ELIAS: As you allow it.

JOANNE: And allowing is just participating with this.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: Just loving that feeling, that state of being.

ELIAS: Engage your adventures and notice what you are creating in each moment, for each moment is an outcome.

JOANNE: Yes, I love that, that you said that. So I want to go to Peru, and I want to fly first class, then do that.

ELIAS: Yes.

JOANNE: Is there anything connected with Houston? Is there some type of aspect of relationship with another being that's connected with that? That may be a little bit of a crystal ball question.

ELIAS: That may incorporate SOME potential, but you are somewhat attaching more significance to it than is necessary.

JOANNE: I think what I am doing is I’m showing myself that I can follow my impressions without having expectations.

ELIAS: Yes. It is a stepping stone.

JOANNE: Yes. That’s absolutely wonderful. So just to keep continuing, I feel like I’m participating and... for the money aspect, security is important. I feel like I’m creating it, anyway. But what I’ve done from a logical perspective is to say, if I run out of money I'll go get a job.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well, that is—

JOANNE: I don’t feel like I need to go back anyway. I’m not going to worry about stuff like that. I’ll just keep on (inaudible).

One other quick question – are we out of time? We're out of time. With my family being here, they keep leaving the lights on. It was driving me nuts, because of course I pay the bills, but also I was having this perception that it was a waste of energy. And then there was kind of this impression that, well, energy is never wasted, it just transforms. And it just occurred to me this morning that this is a metaphor to remind me to leave my light on all the time inside of myself.

ELIAS: Yes!

JOANNE: Okay. (Elias chuckles) See, it’s so cool! All I have to do is just allow an opportunity to shift my perception of something that is bugging me into something that means something else. (Elias laughs) Opens up whole new areas!

ELIAS: (Laughing) Congratulations, my friend.

JOANNE: Well, thank you. I have. I appreciate your energy. I know that I feel it especially when I’m, you know, having struggles. I ask, and I always feel that your presence is there, and I very much appreciate it.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome. I shall be anticipating our next meeting and your report of your adventures. (Chuckles)

JOANNE: Okay. Thank you, and lots of love.

ELIAS: To you in great appreciation, dear friendship and genuine lovingness. Au revoir.

JOANNE: Au revoir.

(Elias departs after 63 minutes 19 seconds.)

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