Friday, April 28, 2006 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jean-Baptiste/Jib (Araili)

(Elias’ arrival time is 26 seconds.)


ELIAS: Good evening.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Good day, Elias. How are you?

ELIAS: As always. And yourself?

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Very, very fine. (Elias chuckles) I had many signs about truths and beliefs and just what I’m doing and who I am and many, many things about energy, and it’s like, “Wow!” It’s very great. I like what I’m doing and I like who I am and I’m just happy to be here and there, and now.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Congratulations!

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Thank you. So I’ll just begin the session by asking you about some information for me and for my friends. I begin with my focus animal. You told me last time that my essence animal is a lynx. I feel also very close to a wolf, so I was wondering if it was my focus animal?

ELIAS: No, but I am understanding the affinity to this particular creature, for you do generate a similar energy as that particular creature. In this, the qualities that you express in similarity to this particular creature is the social quality and the strength, but also the gentleness that is expressed in knowing its position.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay, I am very understanding of that. Yes, I feel like that.

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: So maybe, is it a canine animal, my focus animal, or is it another species?

ELIAS: Another species.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Maybe a bird? Like an eagle, or something like that?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay, is it the same eagle like I saw in a dream with a white head and brown or black feathers?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. Thank you very much. About my friend, Leo, he wants to know what are his colors. With him, with the focus color, I was feeling that it was like a sky blue, and he was feeling it was more like red. What is his actual focus color?

ELIAS: The focus color would be cherry red.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Cherry red, great! I like this color. (Elias chuckles) His essence color, what would it be?

ELIAS: That would be a soft blue.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: A soft blue?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Thank you. I met a new friend of the forum. She’s in India and she’s named Anita, but she’s called Anouf. I felt a very funny energy in her, so I assume that we share some focuses together?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: I had the impression of a focus in India where we’re both little girls?

ELIAS: Correct.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: I want to ask you for her essence name.

ELIAS: Essence name: PASHI (PAW-shee) P-A-S-H-I.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: I repeat, TASHI, T-A-S-H-I.

ELIAS: First letter: P.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: P. Okay. Thank you. Can you tell me about her belonging family? I have the impression of maybe Sumari or Milumet.

ELIAS: Sumari.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Sumari. Her family alignment, I think it’s more like Zuli or…

ELIAS: Correct.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. Thank you. Is she an emotional focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Is she a continuing focus?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Can you tell me about her numbering of focuses in this dimension?

ELIAS: 1026.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: 1026. Thank you. She wanted me to ask you a question about her kidneys, that are bad for quite a time, and she wanted to know what you can tell her about that. Could you tell me a little bit about her condition or a message just for her?

ELIAS: This is somewhat of a complicated or intricate subject, for there are several factors associated with this manifestation. One is what you would term to be a convenience door, in a manner of speaking. What is meant by that is that this particular manifestation serves as a possible potential, for disengaging. Not that the individual is choosing to be disengaging now, but that this can be used if so chosen as a method for disengaging. But that is merely one factor of the creation of this manifestation.

It also serves to limit this individual in certain manners that provide an actual pay-off. Therefore, in some respects this manifestation allows the individual to not incorporate certain actions that she actually does not want to participate in.

Another factor is that it provides a projection somewhat, not entirely, of delicateness, that other individuals shall perceive her as being more frail. But that at times can be confusing, for she also does incorporate a strong energy.

In this, I am understanding that it also is a limitation that she does not necessarily always appreciate, and that it does create discomfort and there is somewhat of a dislike of this manifestation.

But I may also express, value is expressed in many different manners and value is not always expressed in comfort. This manifestation does generate value in different directions, one of which also is providing a motivational factor to invoke her own strength, and motivating in a manner in which she is presenting more information to herself, to be more aware and more intentionally creating her reality in the direction that she wants and more prefers.

But in this, as I have stated, there are some factors associated with this particular manifestation that do provide pay-offs.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. That’s very, very interesting and she will surely appreciate what you told. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: I also wanted to talk to you about my investigations about my own truths. I read the transcript of the group session in Vermont, and it was like I already was subjectively moving my attention in this direction, but not quite knowing from where it comes or why I was doing that. But it was like what was interesting me in that moment where my attentions were, but I wasn’t quite clear about what I was doing.

The reading of the group session was somewhat clearing or “enlightening,” quote-unquote, what I was doing, and I began to notice that there are influences of my truths about every single movement, every single action I was completing in my everyday life, like sitting in a chair, being influenced by my truths about image or my own appearance, and my… also with my truths about control. Is it a truth about control, or is it just an influence?

ELIAS: That would be an influence.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: An influence. Okay. Because it’s not quite really clear with me how to differentiate the truths and the influences, but it’s coming clearer. So I also have the impression that one of my truths would be about self-sacrifice or services. Is it a truth or also an influence?

ELIAS: The truth…

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Like when I let people go before me to enter a room or just in what I translate to be politeness.

ELIAS: Consideration.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Consideration?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: So that would be the truth?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I also am very interested in what you can say about memory, the action of remembering things, like when you try to learn by heart a song, like lyrics of a song, or when I was in my training this week with all the people and we had this exam at the end, and I was trained to merge with the information given by the teacher. I quite exhausted myself in projecting my energy in this merging and it’s like I have also difficulties to remember things.

It’s just I can merge with it, but it’s like I don’t want to remember or I don’t need it or maybe I also fear it will reveal a truth about… Or maybe I associate the worth or value to the information that was transmitted or learned. It’s like I just allow myself to remember things that I really value, and the other things I create a protection between myself and this information. I think it’s also influenced by a truth or an influence about protection of self. Is it a truth or is it an influence?

ELIAS: I would express that the two core truths that you incorporate, that influence most strongly all that you do, would be that of consideration and of image.

Now; in association with image, that generates an influence in association with directing yourself. And that in that, it can also generate an influence associated with how you interact with what you perceive to be authority. And that can be associated with the memory, for you generate a type of rebellion in opposition to the authority, not necessarily the information.

You allow yourself to assimilate the information, but in relation to the aspect of authority, you filter information in regard to what interests you or what can be associated with your preferences. And as you generate that, you also generate the resistance to the element of authority. And therefore, you incorporate what you perceive to be a lack of memory.

In this, if you allow yourself to relax and genuinely evaluate that YOU are the one that is choosing to engage certain methods to present certain information to yourself, and as you are presenting information to yourself through another individual that you identify or define as a teacher, you can receive whatever information is being presented, recognizing that you are presenting it to yourself.

And in that, you can filter what is most important or most interesting or most preferred to you, and also not necessarily oppose whatever information is less interesting or not a preference, by recognizing that you have also presented that information to yourself to more clearly define what you ARE interested in and what your preferences are.

Therefore, in a manner of speaking, what you are presenting to yourself is a balance. Some information that is preferred and that you assimilate and is useful to you in continuing in your direction and directing yourself, but the other information that is not necessarily useful to you or not preferred is being presented to emphasize what IS preferred. And it is not actually associated with the individual that you have drawn to yourself to present it.

Therefore, as you begin to more clearly evaluate what you are actually creating and what you are drawing to yourself and what you are presenting to yourself, recognizing that YOU are creating all of this, you can more easily alter your perception in not viewing the other individual, the teacher, as a threat to your directing of yourself, and also not generate the association that you must conform to what the other individual is expressing, but that you can allow yourself to assimilate all of the information, generating a balance, emphasizing what are your preferences and allowing yourself to enhance yourself in directing yourself. Are you understanding?

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Yes. I am understanding. Ummm…

ELIAS: In that, once you are no longer opposing, you may surprise yourself at how easily you can generate memory objectively. For what blocks that memory is the resistance and the opposition that you are expressing in energy, in generating this threat, or perceived threat, that another individual threatens your ability to direct yourself in the manner that you choose. And the automatic response to that is to generate the resistance or the rebellion, and that is an opposing energy and it blocks that balance and blocks the memory.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Yes. It’s like I’m a little rebel. Since I’m young, I always wanted to oppose the authority and when someone told me to do something, I just had fun to do the opposite thing, or what appeared to me to be the opposite thing. (Elias chuckles) But also influenced by my truth of consideration, I also was choosing when I could do that and when I didn’t want to do that.

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: I want to know more about the mechanism of memory. Is it a mechanism or is it another action, actually?

ELIAS: Yes, you could identify or describe it as a mechanism.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Is it like a holding of energy about events that occurred? Or memory also can be generated about probable events or parallel reality events or other-dimensional events? That wouldn’t be a holding of energy and just accessing information and translating information in a manner that we can understand?

ELIAS: Yes. It is not necessarily a holding of energy. It is a type of mechanism of tapping into different energies that you associate with. It may be generated in relation to any action, and memory is not always expressed in association with thought. It can be generated in other manners, also.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Like when I suddenly have the smell of strawberries or a cake or something like that and that triggers memory of… It’s like a memory, but it’s like I never lived the event myself as the focus I am now, but it’s like memory of another, maybe subjective memories or… I don’t really know what it is, but it’s like it generates memories, maybe dreams memory or something like that.

ELIAS: Memory is associated with what is known, and that is not limited to your experiences in this one focus. It can be associated with many different experiences, as you have stated. It can be associated with other-dimensional experiences. It can be associated with probable experiences. It can be associated with other focus experiences. It can be associated with non-physical experiences.

Memory is a type of mechanism that taps into known experiences in many different manners. It can be generated in relation to thought, but it can also be generated in relation to any of your senses or your body consciousness or your communications of emotion or imagination or impressions or intuition. It can also be generated in relation to particles, such as cells or atoms.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. So it’s a similar mechanism as imagination or maybe they are associated closely, or is it the same thing or…?

ELIAS: It is not the same, but imagination is a strong avenue in which memory can be invoked. And…

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Imagination is the association of several memories or other known “things,” quote-unquote, in consciousness.

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay… Okay, that’s very, very interesting. Because I have always, as you told me, been opposing to learn something by heart and after that remember anything, because I was seeing learning as accumulation of knowledge, and so I had to accumulate more and more, and hold all that knowledge in my head and hold that knowledge tightly and remember it. And when you’re not using it, you lose it. (Both chuckle)

ELIAS: Not necessarily, my friend. For it is, figuratively speaking, a mechanism which serves as a type of file search. In this, it is the mechanism that allows you to tap into any known experience in any particular time framework.

And therefore, it is not necessary for you to store all of this information. It is continuously available. It is merely a matter of tapping into any particular experience which provides the information to the mechanism of memory.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I want to talk now about final focus. As I am a final focus in this focus, I wanted to know more about the action of disengagement of final focuses, like when I disengage all of my essence focuses disengage from this reality also?

ELIAS: Yes, or they may choose to fragment and create a new essence and continue within the participation of this reality.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: So I wanted to know about that. If, when I choose to disengage and so all the focuses of my essence that want to disengage at that time also disengage, that doesn’t mean that the focus does not exist any more, but it continues to exist but there is an aspect of that focus that is not focused on this physical dimension any more, but his attention is on unphysical realities or other areas of consciousness. Would it be something like that, or…? Because it’s very difficult to express that with words. Can you feel the energy of what I’m expressing?

ELIAS: The uniqueness and the integrity of the focus of attention is not absorbed or lost when the essence is removed from the physical reality. The uniqueness of YOU as a focus of attention continues in whatever direction you choose to continue within. That may be in a non-physical expression or it may be in a direction of exploring some other reality. It is the choice of the focus of attention. You incorporate your own unique identity.

Although you are all of essence, you are also a particular attention and the integrity and the uniqueness and the direction of YOU as that focus of attention continues and continues to generate your own unique choices.

Now; it is somewhat difficult to explain to you now…

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Yes, I understand that.

ELIAS: …what type of action occurs if you choose to not be exploring some other physical reality, for in that, in association with what you would term to be the realm of non-physical reality, which is not actually a realm, for it is an action, but with regard to that, you continue your awareness of YOU, your identity of you, but it is tremendously expanded. For you also would not differentiate yourself from essence.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Yes. I was wondering if there are five observing essences in my focus? Or I feel it is also fluctuating, because I was feeling three observing essences several months ago, but it’s like there is five now.

ELIAS: Yes. And this can fluctuate frequently.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I wanted also to talk to you about a dream I had several days ago, where I was talking to my grandmother and she was telling me that she didn’t find the spiders and the web any more and she was looking for them. And in my imagery, spiders and webs are associated with beliefs and their influences and all the connections between them, and I interpreted this dream as my grandmother is in the process of transitioning and so she is in the unknown and the unfamiliar, because she’s shedding her beliefs. And she’s trying to find them again, or it’s my impression. Would that be correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. About also the training I followed at the beginning of this week, what I was doing when listening to the teacher, I was like projecting aspects of myself, of my attention, on what she was saying, on him, on all the people that were present in this formation, like we were united in the possessing, in the generation of information, and I could feel many, many intensities, different intensities. And it’s also the same thing when I’m trying to project aspects of myself to do energy exchange with friends, and it occurred to me that I may be pushing or forcing energy there, because I want to feel it intensely. It occurred to me that it is not necessary to feel it with such intensity, but there still is an energy exchange with much less intensity. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes. You are correct. And it is not necessary to force energy, for you can generate an exchange and even an mergence with other individuals quite easily in engaging your empathic sense, and merely allowing yourself to flow easily. In this, you can genuinely experience other individuals and it can be intense or not intense, but it is not necessary to force.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Am I forcing energy when I feel like -- I term it to be my subjective awareness -- when I can feel like there is, I don’t really have words to translate that, but there is, like I can move my attention to be aware objectively and subjectively at the same time, and when I’m aware subjectively it’s like there’s an energy field that I can feel. Are you understanding of the situation I am speaking about?

ELIAS: Yes. Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: I associated that with forcing my energy. So it’s not forcing my energy?

ELIAS: No.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. So I can use that to project different aspects of myself? It isn’t necessary to be the same aspect each time but it’s more familiar to use the same aspect. I wanted to know if, when I’m trying to do energy exchanges with my friends, like I was doing with my friend Leo last week, and like when I’m trying to do it with other essences or other people and at first I don’t feel this subjective awareness that I told you about, but it’s like I first interpreted it as I’m closed or I’m not open, and after several experiences I also told myself that it might be the translation that the other people do not open themselves to me to do the exercises or…?

ELIAS: Yes. You are correct. And in this, what you will experience is, at times, if you are connecting with the other individual, or another essence, energetically, and you are generating an openness and the other individual is also, you shall experience what you have been describing in that objective and subjective exchange. But if you are generating an openness and the other individual is not necessarily, and not necessarily that the other individual is intentionally not generating an openness, but they may not be aware of how to generate that yet, in that type of experience, it shall appear to you to be more flat.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay.

ELIAS: Or the experience shall appear to you to be more two-dimensional, in a manner of speaking.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. Because I was thinking that I wasn’t generating an openness and that I had difficulties to do that and it seemed to me that maybe it wasn’t what I was wanting to do, or it wasn’t… or that I was creating difficulties in that exchange or things like that, so it’s kind of giving me more trust in myself, what you are just telling me.

ELIAS: Yes. And also, at times you may experience yourself not generating as much openness, and you may evaluate what your motivation is for generating the action, and that shall offer you more information in relation to whether you actually want to be generating that type of an exchange with any particular individual. Perhaps some individuals you do want to engage that type of exchange and some you may not necessarily.

But I am acknowledging of you, that thus far in your experiences, most of what you experience in that flatness is that the other individual that you are exchanging with is not quite familiar yet with how to participate and generate their own openness.

Now; you can circumvent that, in the engagement of your empathic sense, but that would not necessarily be an exchange. That would be you generating a mergence with the other individual and the other individual not necessarily entirely participating, or not participating with an objective awareness of their participation.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I wanted also to speak about the collector of Marius, the vampire in the saga written by Anne Rice. You told Iona and Opan that I was, that my energy can be translated as this character in the book. So I wanted to know if it is the… related to one of my focuses in this physical dimension, and also one of my focuses in the vampire dimension? Or…?

ELIAS: The latter. But also, you do generate a similarity in energy in passion and sensuality.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I also wanted to know about the dragon dimension. I had the impression of a dragon with a long neck and a big body. Is it a translation of a focus of mine in this dimension?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: And I also had the impression of a focus of my sister that is in this dimension and that we’re dragon lovers or…?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. That’s great! (Elias laughs) I had also, several weeks ago, impressions about a name, Michael, that I assume to be a focus of my boy friend. Since I noticed that, it was like I was seeing Michael everywhere, in the movies I was watching, in the books I was reading, I was dreaming of Michaels. There were many, many Michaels. (Elias laughs) Is it related to a focus of my boy friend?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: It is also related to the apartment hunting that we are doing currently?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I had during that same time impressions about a name, Bruno. I thought that it wasn’t really a focus of mine, because it doesn’t feel like… It isn’t the same sensation as with my focus Eshrael or other focuses of me, but it was like I was merging with this energy of Bruno. What was that exactly?

ELIAS: That is a another focus, but not of you.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Is it a focus of my boy friend?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. So, have you another thing to tell me, just maybe directions or games that I can use in this truth wave, or…?

ELIAS: A game that you may play in association with this truth wave is to generate a treasure hunt. And in that treasure hunt, the treasure shall be to discover all the actions that you incorporate, regardless of how mundane, that are associated with your truths and how you appreciate them.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. Thank you for that funny game. I like treasure hunts. (Elias laughs) Because I assume that I have several pirate focuses?

ELIAS: Ah yes! (Laughs)

JEAN-BAPTISTE: That’s great!

ELIAS: And one with myself. (Both laugh)

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Oh. That reminds me of a dream that I had, just after a session I had with you, where it seemed I saw you and you just told me that we had several disengagements together. Was it an accurate translation?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay, and was I translating your face accurately in that dream, like blond hair and blue eyes?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I was also seeing my focus, George, with curly hair and brown hair and he was wearing a child in his arms, and the child I assume was an aspect of myself or of the focus George? It was trying to protect him. Is that correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Okay. I let you go now. (Both laugh)

ELIAS: Very well.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: So, thank you, my friend,

ELIAS: You are very welcome. I express tremendous affection and appreciation of you. In great lovingness, and in friendship, au revoir.

JEAN-BAPTISTE: Au revoir, my friend.

(Elias departs after 1 hour 3 minutes.)

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