Friday, January 27, 2006 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anjuli (Myranda)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

ANJULI: Good afternoon, Elias. Ah, it’s great!

ELIAS: And how has your adventure been proceeding?

ANJULI: Oh, so exciting: addressing to the truth wave, moving into issues and using them in a certain way, and then always wanting to have a session with you, running to Elias, “help me!” but I always managed on my own. (Elias chuckles) Even this time, I was so ready to talk with you again about what a problem I have with this or that, but I managed on my own.

ELIAS: Ha ha! Congratulations.

ANJULI: And that feels very validating. It is a very good feeling, although I don’t mind to talk with you about anything. I know that you are not outside of myself, but still.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

ANJULI: And Elias, greetings from Gottlieb.

ELIAS: And you may offer my greetings also.

ANJULI: Ja, and from my mother.

ELIAS: And you may express my lovingness to her.

ANJULI: And she has a letter for you.

ELIAS: Very well.

ANJULI: (Portion omitted by request) Thank you, Elias.

ELIAS: You are quite welcome.

ANJULI: I just told Mary about how I understand cooperation in a different way, and as to my mother, also, helpfulness in a different way. I was letting go of these old definitions or redefining what responsibility means and how I can be really supportive to her, and what it means to hold my attention on myself and on my preferences, especially paying attention to my reactions and to the opposing of self and of the differences and all that.

Somehow, first of all, I understood how she is exploring differently than I am, and I understand that for her, creating let’s say certain challenges or a certain perception, that is what she as essence and as focus desires, and that maybe she is in this just very different – or in some aspects not – but partially different in her preferences. That helped me to accept her much more. I understood also my choice of creating this relationship with her and even also the challenges. Then, suddenly, I didn’t react to when she is frustrated, and that was in the past so difficult for me. That was the most difficult, that I got drawn into a process of thinking about it and getting drawn into some opposing energy of myself and all that. So far, since quite some while now, I sort of react either neutral or even gentle and can maintain a different kind of attention in the relationship, and that is very beautiful for me.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and I am greatly acknowledging of you, Myranda, for I am aware that many individuals do not yet understand the action of cooperation. But as you are aware, this wave of addressing to truths is considerably challenging, and in that, as I have expressed many times previously, it also incorporates tremendous potential for great freedom and much more of an ease once you are genuinely viewing the differences and your own truths and your own guidelines and are accepting of those, and allowing yourselves to genuinely be expressing a cooperation and a gentleness with yourselves and each other.

ANJULI: My experience was that I seem to be much more aware of the differences between me and other people, and that even when people are quite similar in many choices and preferences as I am, I am much more aware also that they are different, and at times that was difficult. At times I was expressing some sadness or loneliness or challenge with that.

Recently I think I am much better in paying attention to my subjective/objective balance as soft. In that, I am doing something new, that as if my energy field, in connecting with different people individually and the collective and all the time, I have bubbles which meet other bubbles, or truths of people or qualities or energy expressions. Some of my bubbles are bouncing with those bubbles of others, and others not. As to the ones that are bouncing, I am then feeling aha, that is about a difference, but I don’t translate it into a thought or what, but I feel it objectively, and somehow I am doing something different, and that is fun.

It also is about another language to self, somehow, and experiencing interaction differently and that direction I went with you already, about what verbalizing is and what words are, and so I am experiencing interaction very differently. That also gets mixed with new experiences about identity, Elias, and about my interest in actions and holding my attention on actions within consciousness, for example, becoming a concept. Then I am running around as a concept, so to speak, and observing how things are now, and I do all of this together with physical activity. But I don’t perceive it, then, in the way as before, as singular or I don’t know what, and I discovered that I am more freely expressing as to the physical. That has been the problem, probably, before, why I don’t like to do certain outgoing or what. It is about how I define everything, and with this other way of looking at it, it feels different.

ELIAS: I am understanding, and that translates differently into your objective reality.

ANJULI: I was curious if you could comment a little bit on this new direction and help me a little bit, verbalize it for me, or also maybe at the same time we continue that game about how what we are talking about now is not how we are really talking. (Elias laughs) Or it is both? I mean, we talk in the different way also.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct, for we are objectively speaking, and we are also interacting through energy. In this, that may be somewhat of a challenging factor in interacting with other individuals, for you are generating the same action. You are interacting with them in a verbal language, but you are also interacting with them in the language of energy. The challenge becomes the interaction of energy, for that is the area in which you notice the differences, and that may be somewhat more difficult to understand objectively.

What is significant in this, Myranda, is that it is not always necessary to understand objectively. There may be situations in which you may present to yourself another individual that expresses significant enough differences from yourself that you may not necessarily understand their energy or their expressions in association with their truths or their guidelines, for it may not necessarily be within your experience. And if you do not incorporate the experience or a similar experience, it is much more difficult to generate an objective understanding, for it is merely concept. It is not reality to you.

But in these types of scenarios, in reminding yourself that it is not actually necessary to understand and merely noting your recognition of the differences and acknowledging that and acknowledging yourself, you may subsequently turn your attention to you and allow yourself to express in your manner, generating an energy of cooperation. Whether the other individual receives that or not is not your concern. But I am understanding that in interactions with other individuals, it may be uncomfortable if the other individual does not receive it, or if they reconfigure that in association with their own guidelines and their own truths.

In this, you also incorporate the choice to be discerning when it is beneficial for you to be interactive and when it is not. For at times it may not be, if it begins to trigger your own associations, in which you begin to match energy or you begin to instruct another individual, which...

ANJULI: Right, and at times it is even difficult when I discontinue the objective interaction. I find myself still at times with my attention outside of self and connecting in thoughts when it is about something that is for me somehow challenging. Then I am upset about myself, and I don’t know how to get out of it.

ELIAS: I am understanding, for these types of directions block the communication of imagination, and that is what offers you inspirations and motivation and inspires new ideas.

But in this, if you can remind yourself as to what is actually occurring in the now, that shall be helpful to move your attention to what type of energy you are projecting. Regardless of whether you are interacting with another individual or not, if you are projecting pastly and recalling over and over a particular scenario or interaction and if you are dwelling in that situation, you are continuing to project an opposing energy, which ripples out regardless of whether you actually engage an objective physical interaction with other individuals or not. In this, it is affecting of your energy with self also, for it creates an opposing energy within self, and that generates another obstacle in association with imagination and creativity, and creates an open window for discounting yourself or doubting yourself.

ANJULI: Right, ja, I did that a lot, and then it got worse and worse.

ELIAS: This is the reason that it is very helpful to notice what you are doing and allow yourself to pause and move your attention to what you are actually doing in the moment. As I have expressed many times previously, in any moment you are actually doing many actions simultaneously. You are merely focusing upon one. You are focusing upon the recall and projecting pastly, but you are also engaging other actions in that moment, and you are participating in an actual environment in that moment. Therefore, in allowing yourself to stop, recognize the projection and allow yourself to pause and reconnect yourself with your presence, with your existence in the now, that interrupts that concentration upon dwelling upon some past scenario. Once you interrupt that, you can much more easily move into a different expression and automatically create a very different energy.

ANJULI: I am not sure how much it helps when I think about what triggered me and why it triggered me. Partially I got information from that, but I am not sure how much it really helped.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, if you are engaging a brief – key term “brief” – evaluation of your own triggers, that offers you information concerning your energy and what you are doing with your energy and your own automatic responses, and that may be valuable. But there is a difference between generating a brief evaluation merely to identify what the trigger was and what the response was, and subsequently to stop and not continue to be analyzing that but merely noting it, thusly moving into a different expression and generating a different action.

The reason that you engage a recall of an event is merely to offer yourself information as to your own triggers, your own preferences, your own automatic responses. Once that is recognized, it is no longer necessary to continue the evaluation. If you continue, you are no longer offering yourself information, and it is no longer an action that is offering you validation of yourself. It becomes dwelling, and that opens the window for discounting and doubting. Therefore, you begin to generate the reverse of what you intended initially.

In this, once you have offered yourself an identification of a trigger, that is all that is necessary.

ANJULI: It seems that often what triggered me was not about something objectively, like a mail or something somebody said. Then, I don’t know what to do with that at all. I was not sure if I am receiving that energy, or maybe it is originally not expressed like that and it is configured by my beliefs, and then I start thinking and... Ugh.

ELIAS: I may express to you, you are correct, it is not the physical action or interaction that is creating the trigger. It is the energy, and it is associated with some expression within yourself, some association that you generate within yourself in relation to your guidelines. Triggers occur when you present yourself with an expression that moves contrary to your own guidelines.

As much as we may discuss truths and what they are and how absolute they are and how strong they are, you may understand that intellectually, but within experience, as a guideline or a truth becomes triggered, what is to be acknowledged is its existence and the strength of it. For in not acknowledging that, what you do is you attempt to ignore or to push away your own guidelines, and you generate an automatic association that they are bad, for you have experienced this trigger and that is bad, and that if you were entirely accepting, you would never experience any of these triggers. Not so! You are not eliminating beliefs, and therefore, you are not eliminating your truths and you are not eliminating your guidelines. What you ARE doing is shifting your perception to allow your truths and to recognize that as strong as they are and as absolute as they may be with you, they are not universally absolute. In that, once you recognize and acknowledge your own truths, your own guidelines, what occurs is not that you shall discontinue incorporating your own opinions or your own preferences or your own direction, but that you relax the judgment, for you do not generate an association with threat.

When individuals express differently, what creates these negative automatic responses, in your terms, or these twinges of distress or dismay or frustration or irritation, is that the individual receives energy and perceives it in some manner with some underlying threat. The threat may not necessarily be expressed overtly; it may merely be an association, the recognition of a difference, in which as the individual receives the energy, there is an underlying automatic questioning of whether their own guidelines and truths are valid. Therefore, there is an automatic defense to express that the individual’s guidelines are valid; but there is an underlying question, and that is what creates that twinge and the automatic response to push.

But if you are acknowledging your own guidelines and are trusting yourself and generating a confidence and an empowerment of yourself, what occurs is that you discontinue questioning your own guidelines. You express a comfort in them, knowing that they may not necessarily apply to other individuals, but generating a genuine acceptance and comfort that they do apply to you.

In that, as another individual may express differently, it does not become a threat. For the energy that you receive does not trigger a questioning, for you have moved into a genuine expression of empowerment and solidity of confidence within yourself in association with your own guidelines. In that, you can also easily distinguish what you are doing from what another individual is doing, that another individual may express a certain behavior or generate certain choices that do not move in the direction of your guidelines, but you can distinguish between their choices and recognize and acknowledge yourself that it matters not, for you are continuing to engage your guidelines. Therefore, you are not engaging what they are engaging, or you are not expressing the behavior that they are expressing; therefore, it is unnecessary to judge the behavior of the other individual, for you are more concerned with acknowledging your own choices that you are not engaging that behavior.

ANJULI: At times I was then starting to doubt, and I thought when, for example, I created others having a certain perception about me, about what I am doing, I was not sure how much is that a communication to myself to pay attention to that. Maybe there is really something which I don’t see about myself, about my expressions or about my beliefs or what. Partially it may have been about that, but...

ELIAS: I am understanding.

ANJULI: I was quite confused about how I am expressing, and I was really not free anymore although I tried, always. Then I started to doubt about how I am expressing, and it got more and more confused.

ELIAS: I am understanding. This is a tremendous challenge with most individuals, for many times you slip into the automatic association that generates the terms of mirroring and reflecting as synonymous, and they are not. This generates confusion, for you view what another individual is expressing, and you incorporate information, knowing that in some manner the other individual is reflecting some expression to you, and that you have specifically and precisely drawn that individual to you in that moment for they shall express in whatever manner they are naturally, and that particular individual in their natural expression shall reflect some element of you to you. But reflecting is not mirroring, and in this, what they may be reflecting may be merely to offer you the opportunity to view how you respond in certain situations or whether you are being triggered in certain situations, or they may be generating a reflection to you that you may acknowledge yourself that you are not generating an automatic response and that you are noticing and that you are paying attention to your energy and that you are acknowledging your own accomplishments.

Therefore, it is not a matter of necessarily attempting to analyze that you have engaged an interaction with another individual and perhaps it may be uncomfortable, and expressing to yourself what am I expressing that is so terrible that this individual would respond to myself in this manner, or what am I expressing that is so unaccepting that I would generate this type of interaction. That may not necessarily be the reason that you have drawn a particular individual in a particular moment to yourself. It may be that you are offering yourself the opportunity to merely view your automatic responses or to become more familiar with your own triggers and therefore become more familiar with what presents a threat to you, which subsequently you can address to. You are not…

ANJULI: For example, one of my favorite threats was when I thought somebody thinks or said, or it could also have been in energy, “she is not aware of her energy, and she thinks she is aware, and I am so clear in my reading of energies and therefore I am right in how Myranda is.”

ELIAS: I am understanding, and this is a very common expression and challenge with most individuals. You are so very familiar with projecting your attention outside of self and concentrating upon the other individual that it is a very familiar expression to concern yourself with how you are being perceived by other individuals.

ANJULI: Then I did not get out of it, and I was not sure how to deal with it especially when it was not on the mails. I thought maybe I do have to address to it objectively on the mails and… It was really confusing me for quite a while.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Which, this also is associated with genuinely becoming aware and familiar and acknowledging your own guidelines and your own truths, and in that acknowledgment, becoming comfortable with your own truths and empowering yourself with that rather than questioning them or attempting to push away. For as you become more comfortable and accepting of your own truths, you concern yourself less and less with how you may be perceived by other individuals.

In that, let me express this also, for this can easily be misconstrued or misunderstood: As I express to you that the individual becomes less and less concerned with how other individuals perceive them, this is not to say that the individual generates, in your terms, puffing themselves up and incorporating no regard for other individuals. That is an entirely different action, and that is an imposing action. But in a genuine expression of acceptance and empowerment of self, the reason that you concern yourself less and less with how the other individual may perceive you is that you become more and more genuine in your own expressions, and you become more and more naturally expressing a genuine cooperation with other individuals, and you project that acceptance and that acknowledgment of yourself. Therefore, you also reflect it, and in that, you are not creating a reason to concern yourself with other individual’s perceptions.

The reason that individuals concern themselves with other individual’s perceptions is that they doubt some element of themselves or they question how to be approaching a situation or another individual in right manner or how to be engaging another individual in an efficient or an effective manner. This continues to be an expression of concerning yourself with the other individual, and therefore, it also creates the sister expression of being concerned with how the other individual shall perceive you.

In this, if the individual acknowledges themself and is trusting of their own guidelines and generating not doubting themselves, creating that empowerment and that confidence of self, it creates a very different energy, and there is no more presentment of threat. It allows you much more easily to move in the direction of your own choices and your own inspiration and your own guidelines, rather than convoluting yourself with attempting to evaluate all of these different expressions and what you are presenting to yourself and how shall you proceed and how shall you create this expression of cooperation and how shall the other individual perceive myself. All of these dissipate if you are allowing yourself to acknowledge you.

ANJULI: I think it was during the last two or three days when I had my attention differently, as I expressed in the beginning, that when I just felt a little bit into the direction of what was previously threatening to me, it was for the first time not so challenging. I was careful, of course, with it, but I think it has dissipated, the reaction, my response to it or feeling it, although I am still vulnerable about it.

ELIAS: I am understanding. But you are generating movement, and you are offering yourself information. This is the reason that you also chose to be engaging conversation with myself in this now.

ANJULI: If we all are receiving energy of other people clearly, how can we then still be so different in what we think we receive in energy from somebody else or how we think the other person is?

ELIAS: For you ARE different. For you generate different guidelines, and that is what, in a manner of speaking, dictates your expressions, your choices, your behaviors, how you associate.

Your guidelines are precisely that: they guide you in what you do, how you express, how you behave, what you choose, what you do not choose, what your preferences are, how you process information, how you think, how you respond. This is the reason that they are so very significant and are to be acknowledged.

You incorporate a specific guideline that would prevent you from physical assaulting and killing another individual. You would not engage that action, for you incorporate a strong guideline that guides your behavior to not engage that type of action. Another individual may incorporate very different guidelines and may engage that action. In your opinion and in your preferences, you shall automatically deem that to be wrong, and for you it is, and this is the reason that you would not engage that action. But for the other individual, it may not be wrong, and that is the reason that they would engage that action.

It is not a matter, once again, of eliminating duplicity, either. You shall continue to incorporate your own opinions and preferences but in a different manner. That is what is shifting, is that you relax the absoluteness of your own guidelines, of your own truths, and therefore, it allows you to acknowledge and accept your own truths as being beneficial and in your terms good for you, but it also allows you to recognize differences and not generate the absolute judgments in association with those differences.

I incorporate the example of killing another individual as an extreme, as is obvious, but in actuality, underlyingly, it is not that different from interactions between individuals in which they generate conflict, for they are expressing judgments of each other or generating assumptions concerning the other individual in association with their own guidelines. This also is merely another form of expressing the absoluteness of one’s own truths and creating an energy of opposition, expressing an assumption concerning another individual and what they are expressing or what they are doing. For assumptions are associated with your own guidelines; they are expressions of your own associations.

ANJULI: How do I know if I made an assumption?

ELIAS: I am not necessarily expressing that you have generated an assumption; I am merely expressing that in information, that it may be recognized. But you may identify that you are generating an assumption concerning another individual if you are expressing a judgment that they are doing this or they are doing that. You are generating an assumption with another individual if you are expressing in the direction of the type of judgment that expresses this individual thinks they are doing this or thinks they are doing that but they actually are not. That is an assumption.

For you may be aware of other individual’s energies, but there is always the factor of difference, and with that factor of difference, an individual may be expressing genuinely in a particular direction, but in the manner in which they are expressing that, it may be different to the point in which objectively it is unrecognizable to you.

ANJULI: So when I create, for example, realizing that maybe some aspects of how I see something or my guidelines or something I do is so different that the other people just interpret it differently, that is also some sort of a reflection or presenting to myself the concept that I do the same.

ELIAS: Yes, for it offers you information that just as other individuals may view you and the genuineness of the manner in which you are exploring or you identify or you offer yourself information or you understand may be different enough to the point in which it is unrecognizable to the other individual, that can also occur in the reverse, in which you may present another individual to yourself in which their understanding is unrecognizable to you.

ANJULI: And this in spite of us being more clear in reading energy, and we have learned to pay attention to our focuses and all that. Still, although we receive energy, the difference can be so big that we interpret the energy differently?

ELIAS: That is quite possible. Also remember, although you receive energy for the most part in the manner in which it is projected, you also interpret it in association with what you know. Therefore, if another individual is projecting an energy to you and you are receiving it in the manner that they are projecting it, it may be confusing or challenging or even conflicting in how you receive it, for you may not incorporate the experience to translate that accurately. Therefore, you translate the energy in association with what you know.

ANJULI: So we can, although we are all here in our dimension, in our time and are all human beings, meet in energy or physically or whatever, connect with another individual and that other individual is still a sort of unknown for us, in the energy and in their exploration?

ELIAS: Objectively, yes. This is the challenge

ANJULI: Not in terms of us being consciousness but for us as focus, or what?

ELIAS: Correct, and incorporating the objective awareness. This is the challenge of the objective awareness, and also it is the exploration of the objective.

ANJULI: Ja, this is why we did that with our dimension?

ELIAS: Correct. For this is an exploration, to explore the objective awareness, expanding it and exploring how to be generating that interconnectedness and lack of separation and clearer understanding of energy through the objective awareness, which is continuously translating in association with what it knows – and what it knows is directly associated with experience.

ANJULI: So for example, I can get information by zooming back and forth between experiencing this dimension and other individuals with my identity as consciousness, and then zoom back into being fully the Anjuli individual, even zooming myself into just one aspect?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: And then look into this little information piece I get by zooming myself into that and then zooming out again, and then after a while I could, for example, have more continuously both if I choose?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: More continuously both?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Then this was what I am more exploring these days.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANJULI: Ah! And Elias, I translated Timothy/Eliantan into the character of my TV movie, Frederic. (Elias chuckles) Interesting energy, don’t you think?

ELIAS: Quite! And now we shall continue to play, and we shall continue the adventure, and I shall continue to engage my energy with you. Offer my greetings and lovingness to your mother.

ANJULI: Ja, thank you.

ELIAS: I shall be anticipating our next meeting, my dear friend. I express tremendous appreciation for you, and great lovingness.

ANJULI: Thank you, Elias. I love you.

ELIAS: In genuine friendship, au revoir.

ANJULI: Au revoir.

Elias departs after 1 hour, 9 minutes.

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