Session 1890

Creating an Atmosphere of Cooperation

Topics:

“The Importance of Paying Attention to Every Action That You Are Doing, What Type of Energy You Are Projecting, and All That You Are Reflecting to Yourself”
“Creating an Atmosphere of Cooperation”
“Incorporate Imagining with Magic”

Thursday, December 15, 2005 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Jens (Samira)

(Elias’ arrival time is 13 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon.

JENS: Good afternoon, Elias. (Elias chuckles.) Nice to talk to you again.

ELIAS: And you also.

JENS: But I’m talking to you every day. (Elias chuckles.) ...in my life. It’s just a different talking, (Chuckles) a different contact. (Elias chuckles.)

So let’s start. Let’s warm up with some impressions I want to confirm from you, and then I will ask you some topics which come from me in my present becoming.

ELIAS: Very well.

JENS: Okay, first of all, last time, I recognized that I’ve increased the number of my directed focuses, observed focuses, counterparts, essences, who are observing my focus. All these numbers were in April (1)—which was the last session—quite high, and they have increased tremendously. Let’s see, I have...I am directing, at present, 79,291 focuses. (2)

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: (Chuckles) And I am observing...I have two impressions at the moment—178,371. (3)

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: Counterpart actions: there are—

ELIAS: That would be numberless. (Both laugh.)

JENS: I have...even a few days ago, I had more than two trillion counterparts that I was aware, and under this two with twelve zeros, so it’s...it’s—

ELIAS: More than.

JENS: Sorry?

ELIAS: More than.

JENS: I didn’t get you.

ELIAS: You actually incorporate more than that number.

JENS: No.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: Then, let’s see, when I was talking with you about the essences...how many essences are observing the focus of Buddha, I was one of them, and last time that we talked, it had been 56. I have two impressions. I get 58, at present. Correct? Prince Siddhartha, Buddha, is observed by 58 essences.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: Jesus Christ is observed by 108.

ELIAS: 110.

JENS: Okay, that’s changed. And I am observed, at present, by 34,751.

ELIAS: 751.

JENS: And totally, my focus was, until now, observed by 63,281.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: There are tremendous famous focuses, just like Jesus and Buddha, observed by 58 or 110, and I by (Chuckles) 63,000?

ELIAS: But that fluctuates continuously.

JENS: It fluctuates very much, very much.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: Yesterday, I got the number 58,000 for a total, and for the moment even 43,000. But are there any other essences in this dimension at present with more directed focuses, with more observed focuses, which is more observed by other essences? I don’t get...I don’t think so.

ELIAS: Yes, there are, but as I have expressed, it fluctuates continuously, and therefore, in one time framework or one moment the number, so to speak, may appear to you to be quite large, and it can fluctuate, and in another time framework, it may appear to you to be quite small.

JENS: Until last year, I have known only one...I’ve known your essence with more than three thousand focuses, which was the essence with the most focuses I have known until now. Now I have...(Elias laughs.)...much, much, much, much, much more. (Both laugh.)

You have said to me, I didn’t find it on the tape, but you have said, perhaps two or three years ago to me, my focus would not just be unique, but exceptional. This is one aspect of this exceptionality.

ELIAS: Yes. (Both laugh.)

JENS: The interesting thing is I’m aware of all these changes, and I’ve extremely expanded my essence, and millions of people of can say they are a primary or secondary aspect of myself. (Elias laughs.) Other people would do the same as I do, with other people to find out I am observing this person or this person—I have found a few hundred of them, but now millions of people can say the reverse. (Elias laughs.)

Erin/Melody, she has something similar. I’m quite often aware of her energy, even if I have no objective contact now for two years.

ELIAS: I am aware. She is quite playful.

JENS: Yeah.

ELIAS: And quite experimentive. (Chuckles)

JENS: Okay, you don’t want to express more. (Both laugh.)

ELIAS: (Laughs) But you are quite accomplished at this, my friend.

JENS: I’m very accomplishing, I think. (Elias laughs.) But if I remember, Myranda found out all of her focuses, and it was a number less than 100, and I have now nearly eighty thousand focuses. It’s not possible to find out all about them with birth date, and everything, and name. (Both laugh.) The interesting thing is most, almost all of them, are future ones. Very many are female and soft.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: The preferences are the same.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: How to do...how to go on? I had another impression about my...how much of acceptance and trust, objectively and subjectively, I have accomplished.

ELIAS: And what is your assessment?

JENS: The number...it was a percentage which came to my mind. It was, in April, very low, and now subjectively, it’s 100 percent. It’s fluctuating sometimes a little bit, but it’s most of the time 100 percent. And objectively, acceptance is very close to 100 percent—98-99 percent. And even trust fluctuates between 86-96 percent. So, I have almost accomplished acceptance.

ELIAS: Ah, but—

JENS: Yeah, almost. (Laughs)

ELIAS: —that action is an action that is continued in every moment, therefore, once accomplishing it, it continues to be the challenge to maintain that by continuing to express it in every moment.

JENS: Yeah. For example, during...shortly before the last session, I was able to translate the separation to other people, and then, for some time, I was able to repeat this expression and to direct it objectively, but after some while, I wasn’t able to do it anymore. (4) And now it’s the same. For during the last two days, I guess I expressed more and more moments of genuine appreciation.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: My...my boss was, even today, quite irritated because she said you have more of the money next year—and I wasn’t frantic in that moment about it—but the problem is to maintain it and to express it continuously.

ELIAS: Yes. But you can.

JENS: Can you give me some instructions?

ELIAS: You can. It is a matter of genuinely paying attention to you and to your energy and to what you are doing. Let me express to you, my friend, initially that may be somewhat challenging, but it is not a matter of setting an idea that you shall attain a point, so to speak, of accomplishment, and from that point on, it shall merely be. That is not the manner in which this type of action is actually accomplished. It is a matter of genuinely changing your perception and incorporating different choices, intentionally, that allow you to genuinely continue to express an acceptance and cooperation in each moment. This creates the maintaining of that state, but it is not a matter of attaining to a particular point, and thusly you need not incorporate any more action. That is not the manner in which this is accomplished.

This is the reason that I am continuously expressing to individuals the importance and significance of genuinely paying attention to your energy and what you are doing in every moment. And as I have expressed, initially, that may be somewhat challenging, but you shall discover that within a short time framework, it shall become more of a natural action in which it shall become more and more easy to generate that type of awareness: being aware of all that you are doing in every moment and what energy you are expressing continuously.

For in moving in that direction and actually creating that and doing that, you are generating a process in which you are actually changing your perception, and your direction is no longer gauged by what you shall accomplish in any particular event. And it is no longer motivated by an outcome, for you are paying attention to every action that you are doing in every moment and what type of energy you are projecting and paying attention to all that you are reflecting to yourself also, which initially, may seem confusing or overwhelming or difficult, but it very quickly becomes much more easily expressed, and you begin to recognize that you do incorporate the ability to genuinely be accomplishing that action in each moment, which ultimately allows you to direct yourself in whatever expression you want and to manipulate your reality in the manner that you want, whether it be in association with merely yourself or with other individuals, or with employment, or with family; it matters not. You do incorporate the ability if you are generating that type of awareness, and this is the reason that it is so very important.

JENS: Okay. I was correct with my expression that I have, starting two days ago, expressed genuine appreciation—

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: —even in definition.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: Okay. I had some other interesting experiences. For example, in July, I expressed a moment of genuine acceptance. In October, I was really aware, not only theoretically, but really in actually noticing that I do not actually move, but the surrounding around me is moving, and that was during driving my car. So I guess, at first, it was really impressive, and it will be important for projecting with body , (5) and however, for example, in November, the fourth of November, I experienced the recognition that I do create my reality, which is a very powerful feeling, and acceptance again. There are many expressions which are...sorry, I allowed myself many moments in which I turned my perception and showed really interesting perceptions and very uncommon perceptions. Will I be able to maintain this and intentionally create these expressions of appreciation?

ELIAS: Yes, you can. And once again, it is a matter of genuinely paying attention to your energy and to what you are doing and focusing. In that—

JENS:

ELIAS: In that action of focusing yourself, you allow yourself to balance and center, and in that, you incorporate tremendous ability to be intentionally manipulating and altering your perception and, therefore, creating entirely different realities. This is the action of shifting, my friend, and this is what you are doing, and I express my acknowledgment and my congratulations at your accomplishment.

JENS: I’m very proud of myself. (Elias laughs.) Yes, it’s very fascinating. And I’ve recognized that I was...it was much easier to create this movement and to relax when I was on vacation. I think there are two reasons for it: one is that I have expressed in this situation of vacation, less responsibility.

ELIAS: And less expectations of yourself.

JENS: Uh huh. And the other point is that the area where I was, the energy in this area fits much better to my energy than here in Germany.

ELIAS: I am understanding. Yes.

JENS: So I came back to Germany, I had the feeling that I have to leave, I am aware that I have to leave, or I will leave Germany. We have discussed the matter about two years ago . I have still problem to imagine how to realize that.

ELIAS: And this is—

JENS: I was feeling many things inside my house that here, and when I could imagine a higher state, I was sure that I can create it. But here I can, for example, imagine my teeth in a different state, without fillings, without everything, in original state of . I’m sure I will create this. I will create the original state of my teeth, and I will be able to...I don’t know how long it will take, but it is possible, and I do not...I trust my ability, at this point. But this movement outside to Germany, especially we have discussed the subject of India—I have to find a place. Now I not only find the actual place, but the area available of where I had my vision several years ago. So it’s...I know I have to leave Germany, and the problem with my job of next year encouraged me in this, in this thinking and feeling, but I still have no idea how to solve and what to do and how to .

ELIAS: And now begins your new challenge of genuinely expressing and creating an atmosphere of cooperation, which shall allow you to incorporate also the energy of your family, which shall create an increased energy with you to become inspiring and to offer yourself avenues in which you can generate this physical move. But the challenge is to genuinely be expressing cooperation, to genuinely be aware and not be expressing opposition in any of its forms, and to genuinely express cooperation—not compliance, not compromise, for those are also opposing energies, and it is not a matter of enlisting the cooperation of other individuals. It is a matter of you, yourself, generating cooperation with the other individuals to accomplish your direction. In this, that requires you to genuinely engage your creativity, to evaluate what the direction is that you want to proceed in which you already know and how to accomplish that, and to continue to be moving in your direction, but cooperating with the other individuals, and therefore, generating their energy in a manner that shall benefit you and shall lend or contribute to your direction.

JENS: When I move with my whole family, I have doubts with my wife. She creates much movement and but...

ELIAS: This is the challenge. It is not a matter of expecting her to change. It is a matter of you incorporating your own creativity to generate choices and actions that allow for her expression, but that you, in a manner of speaking, can use her expression to further your direction, and to view her expression as a strength to you.

This requires creativity and genuinely expressing and developing a manner of cooperation within yourself, continuing to focus upon your direction and proceeding in your direction, but not with a goal. This is what I was expressing to you previously. Not in association with an endpoint or a goal—more recognizing each moment, and altering perception itself, rather than generating the perception of if I continue, if I continue, if I am diligent, if I am incorporating tremendous concentration and work, I shall accomplish my goal. No, it is a matter of changing your perception and generating cooperation, enlisting the other individuals and their energy to support the direction that you are generating, even if they are not necessarily in agreement with you. That matters not.

JENS: Are my impressions about Kerala correct? The property I see in is situated in Kerala, is a state in—

ELIAS: Which we have discussed previously, and I have—

JENS: I wasn’t sure if we have discussed it. Now I have more detailed impressions, and I know it goes in the direction. It would help me to know if I’m correct. It’s actually not one property. There are two. And one directly at the ocean, a little one, and a bigger one at Ashtamudi Lake, close to Kollam.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: Okay, good. You remember when I was looking for a new property, a new dwelling, here in Germany? And I thought that the property I have seen in my vision was here in Germany, and it wasn’t. And after discussing it with you, and one week later, the problem was solved. It was very .

ELIAS: I am understanding.

JENS: Okay. What might lead to acceptance and appreciation? Are there any hindering elements I should pay attention to?

ELIAS: That would be what we have been discussing concerning cooperation and opposition. Pay attention closely to energy of opposition, and remember that can be expressed in many different manners, some of which may even appear, at times, in their camouflage to be helpful or even expressive of yourself, but in actuality, they may be merely couched in a manner in which the energy is camouflaged to appear surfacely as not opposing, but in actuality is.

This is important, my friend, for this is what shall allow you to genuinely be moving in this direction that you want and to genuinely be manipulating energy objectively in association with creating what you want. In this, it is important that you are aware and that you notice any expression of opposition, whether it be within yourself or in association with another individual.

Remember, there are many forms of opposition. Personal responsibility is one. Compliance is one. Compromise is one. Defense is one. Expectations—shoulds and should nots—are expressions of opposition. There are many different expressions that create an energy of opposition. And in that, when you generate an energy of opposition rather than cooperation, you restrict yourself, and you create obstacles.

Also remember, cooperation is not an action that you expect from another individual. That is opposition, for it is an expectation. Cooperation is a creative act that you do, that you generate, that shall allow you to continue in your direction, but also allow other individuals to express in whatever manner they do.

JENS: Are there any shortcuts? (Elias chuckles.) Of course, I had...perhaps I understand it’s a distortion, but I thought Prince Siddhartha has created a moment when he changed his perception, and we have discussed three of his works of his teacher, Lahiri Mahasaya; I guess, created a similar expression. They have changed their perception tremendously in the moment.

ELIAS: Yes, and you can.

JENS: Is this correct?

ELIAS: Yes, and you can generate that. The moment in which an individual can genuinely radically alter their perception is the moment in which physical wants become less important. This is not to say that physical wants are bad or that they are wrong. They are not. You occupy a physical reality. And this is not to say that you cannot radically alter your perception and continue to incorporate physical wants, for you can. But, generally speaking, those radical alterations of perception, in conjunction with physical wants, occur within a process. Individuals allow themselves much more flexibility if they do not incorporate attachments.

JENS: Okay, I’ll think about it.

ELIAS: And in that, subsequent to that radical alteration of perception, the elements of physical reality that they could form attachments with are also viewed differently. It is merely a matter of what you value, my friend, and in that, which direction you choose to accomplish this expansion, which allows you to alter your perception, and therefore, accomplish intentionally what you want.

But as I have expressed with you previously, the manner in which you can generate that is to begin now, which you already have, and you already are. You have been accomplishing considerably in creating what you want in more of an ease and moving more into a trust and an acceptance of yourself and your reality. And you continue to incorporate specific wants, which are not bad. They are your preferences, and they are also a recognition of your own energy and your natural free flow of energy and what you resonate with and what you resonate with more than you do with other aspects of reality, one of which is physical location. You have offered yourself information concerning your energy and what you resonate more freely with, and in that, as you continue to expand and you continue to be aware of your energy, and particularly aware of cooperating and opposing, that shall open the avenue for you to actually create another physical move.

JENS: What about my imagination? You have said that it would be quite dusty. How...how successful I am in using this inner sense in your assessment?

ELIAS: Somewhat, but you do incorporate a tendency to snare yourself in your playing with imagination in the manner in which you imagine, but you imagine in specifics.

JENS: Okay.

ELIAS: You allow yourself to play with imagining, but with specific wants in association with areas, with structures, with dwellings, with actions, rather than allowing yourself to be playful with imagination in other manners that you would consider not solid reality.

I would encourage you to be generating a playfulness with imagination in a more colorful manner, in generating imagery of manifestations that would not necessarily physically appear in your physical reality. In actuality, this may be a fun exercise for you to engage with your children in generating imaginative stories with them, and perhaps even allowing them to contribute to the stories with what they can imagine.

I am aware that initially this may appear to you to be frivolous and somewhat of a waste of time, but in actuality, it encourages you to incorporate more flexibility, and it reinforces an aspect of you that generates inspiration, which, that in a manner of speaking, opens a channel of yourself in creativity, which allows you to actually generate inspiring manners in which you can accomplish in those physical manifestations that you want.

You express to myself you cannot imagine how you can accomplish these actions, but in playing with imagination you are merely concentrating upon the actions or the structures. In generating more colorful imagining, you encourage your own inspiration and creativity, and in that, you open that avenue to be allowing yourself to generate inspiring ideas in how to create these movements that you want, and they may appear to you suddenly in a burst of inspiration, and you shall answer your own question and express surprise with yourself and express to yourself, “Ah, this is the manner in which I can accomplish!” Incorporate imagining with magic. Listen to the small ones and what they can offer in magical imagining.

JENS: Okay, I will try.

ELIAS: And it shall be fun. (Laughs)

JENS: (Chuckles) And I guess I will have much more time next year for doing this kind of actions, because I was quite some time aware of only a half-paid job next year, and surprisingly I wasn’t sad about it or upset about that situation.

ELIAS: I am understanding, for this also is an element, or in your terms, a part, of what you want.

JENS: The problem of—no, not the problem—the fear is that I don’t have enough money.

ELIAS: Do not move—

JENS: I know we discussed this previously. I don’t have to acquire, but—

ELIAS: Correct. Do not move in that direction, my friend. That—

JENS: It’s a big problem for me.

ELIAS: That shall move you in the direction that you do not want to create. Let me express to you, allow yourself to maintain this appreciation and acknowledgment, and do not move into the concentration of doubt and lack.

JENS: (Laughs) This is easily expressed from you, but I live here.

ELIAS: I am understanding. (Jens laughs.) But acknowledge yourself, for you have accomplished considerably, and I may express to you that in our initial meetings and our initial conversations, you were very much in that direction of doubt and lack and not appreciating and not allowing yourself any acknowledgment, and you have altered that considerably. Remember that, and acknowledge yourself for what you have accomplished.

JENS: I acknowledge it. What about my thesis? We have to come up with...many times, and I thought this topic would be over, but today I was again in a situation to...lying on this topic, and I don’t want this anymore. What have I missed? Is there an aspect I haven’t attract to...what is the problem?

ELIAS: And what do you see?

JENS: To be honest, I’m quite unsure about...I should , and there are some aspects on it which are preferences, but others that are not preferences.

ELIAS: It is a matter of you paying attention to your energy and allowing yourself to move in your preferences, not compromising, not complying, not acquiescing, not restricting yourself.

JENS: That is easily expressed.

ELIAS: Once again, I am aware. (Laughs)

JENS: (Laughs) Because I still express not enough trust to create...I need money. I need an income and any source of...for my needs, and at present, I see only one source: that is a job of money. I am aware that, perhaps three months ago, I had accomplished something, and I had set something into motion with a change in my job. This is not with half of the time and half of the salary, but different. I don’t allow to see......I don’t allow impressions on this thing. I know I have set something into motion. Will it be a surprise? Have I missed something which I didn’t—

ELIAS: My friend—

JENS: —pay attention to?

ELIAS: —this is the point of paying attention to what you are doing in the present, for if you are paying attention to what you are doing in the present, you can be aware of what choices you are generating. Let me express to you, once again, as I have expressed previously, the choices and the actions that you incorporate each day repeatedly are the very same that create eventual events occurring that you may not necessarily want. And in this, if you are aware of what you are doing, you can also be aware of what other choices to incorporate to alter what you are creating.

JENS: This is the point. I don’t see alternatives.

ELIAS: I am under—

JENS: When I discovered this with a colleague, who is in a similar situation, and he is not satisfied with the situation, but he doesn’t allow to see alternatives.

ELIAS: I am understanding, but this is precisely the point. You are not paying attention to what you are doing in all of your mundane actions within a day and how that is affecting of what you are creating. But more than affecting of what you are creating, in those mundane actions, also is expressed alternatives, for in many of those mundane actions, you may be expressing preferences in actions that you do each day repeatedly that actually can inspire you to generate new directions, but they are so automatic and such mundane actions that you do not pay attention, and therefore, you do not see how they are affecting. This is the reason that it is so very important. I may also express to you an encouragement, if you are so choosing, you may engage this subject matter with Michael, and he may be offering you examples of his own experience in precisely this subject matter.

JENS: Okay, next thing—we don’t have very much time left. I have a new tile, a projection tile. (6)

ELIAS: Ah, and you wish to enter this tile?

JENS: Right.

ELIAS: And what is it?

JENS: It’s related to Sumafi.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: And has to do with projection of purposes . Actually, it’s not a projection, it’s just a person in the same position and change the surrounding around itself that it is different , and it’s .

ELIAS: An alteration of physical reality.

JENS: Correct.

ELIAS: Yes. So accepted.

JENS: Okay. And I have recognized that I fragmented from much...many more essences than before. At present, I fragmented from 8,251 essences.

ELIAS: Correct.

JENS: And I fragmented, for example, from...additionally now, from Telleth. (7)

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: From Bareon. This is the essence name of Buddha.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: From all twelve essences who are participating in the energy exchange.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: From Lakeisha and Ophioe.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: From Arcor.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: And from an essence with the name Arcon.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: From Aileen.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: From Lazour.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: And then from Sophia. This is a dream walker essence that has a connection to tile number one.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: And from, I’m not sure of these...

ELIAS: Yes, continue.

JENS: Ruburt and Joseph. (8)

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: So, I’ve recognized now 26 of them. More than eight thousand left.

ELIAS: (Both laugh.) You have presented yourself with quite a challenge, my friend. (Laughs)

JENS: There are even more, because I was only aware of eight of the twelve essences who are participating in the energy exchange, but Mary said all are now named.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: Okay, so from Samira fragmented until now 32,334 essences.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: I am quite productive. (Both laugh.) And even Wingnu is quite busy. (9) Last time I was aware, he fragmented from 19,251 or 54—no, 19,254 I would say at the moment.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: (Chuckles) Interesting how easily I can access in the moment this kind of information (Elias laughs.) and how blind I am on my mundane.

ELIAS: Ah, but this is an avenue in which to practice. (Chuckles)

JENS: Okay, I will do my best.

ELIAS: Very well, my friend. I express, as always, tremendous affection and appreciation to you, and dear friendship. I shall be offering my energy to you in encouragement of your new game. (Chuckles)

JENS: (Laughs) Okay. One last question about ABBA—the music group. I’ve recognized the energy of my partner, of myself, and of Lakeisha, my daughter. Ramla is observing essence of Agnetha.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: And Ranatad and Samira both are observing essence of Anni-Frid?

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: And Lakeisha has a counterpart action with Agnetha.

ELIAS: Yes.

JENS: I have more, but with plenty, for example, I can’t identify it at the moment, but it’s nice to know. I have much more questions I would like to ask you, but I guess the time is over. (Elias laughs.)

ELIAS: And we shall—

JENS: (Laughs) One last question. Sorry to Mary, but I have this fascination in my focuses and in my recognition of observing essences, and counterparts and so on, for extremely gorgeous women, and several of them are in the sex business, as prostitutes, as porn stars, and , but it’s increasing. Is this a situation to show me some beliefs I should address to or become aware or is it to show me preferences? What is it?

ELIAS: Preferences and differences.

JENS: Okay. I thank you for today.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my friend. I shall be anticipating our next meeting.

JENS: And I thank you for all your help if you are talking in my head. (Laughs)

ELIAS: You are very welcome, and I shall continue to be continuously available to you. In great friendship and lovingness, my dear friend—

JENS: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: Au revoir.

JENS: Bye.

(Elias departs after one hour, nine minutes.)

Jens’ Notes:

(1) Referring to Session #1753 on April 16, 2005.

(2) All numbers were accessed in the moment of the question. Their magnitude is astonishing because the average in this dimension lies between 300 and 600. (Session #388)

(3) Ibid.

(4) “Dropping veils of separation” as described in Session #689, Session 1753, and others.

(5) Projecting with body means moving to different places (teleportation) and different times (time traveling), not just in consciousness, but with “full solidity” (see also Session #1349).

(6) More information about the tiles can be found here: http://www.eliasweb.org/Ron/home.html.

(7) The essence name of Jesus Christ.

(8) Ruburt is the essence name of Jane Roberts and Joseph is the essence name of her husband, Robert F. Butts. Both became known for the Seth Material.

(9) Wingnu is an essence who fragmented from many participants of the Elias Forum (see Session #1413 and “Elias Darlings” Session #1491).


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