Friday, July 15, 2005 (Private/In Person)

Participants: Mary (Michael), Cathy (Felicia), Mike (Dejha), Patrick (Derricka) and Katie (Synonn)

(Elias’ arrival time is 20 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

CATHY: Good morning, Elias.

ELIAS: Welcome.

CATHY: Thanks. We’ve got some new folks here. This is Mike.

MIKE: Hello.

ELIAS: Welcome.

CATHY: This is Katie.

ELIAS: Welcome.

CATHY: And you met Patrick before.

ELIAS: Yes.

CATHY: Do you like his hair?

ELIAS: I actually do not incorporate a visual of objects, merely energy. (Chuckles)

CATHY: Before I forget, let me ask this for Pat/Fryolla. She has a new grandbaby named Harley, and she would like her essence name and her stats.

ELIAS: Essence name, Allyce, A-L-L-Y-C-E (al LEESE). And the impression?

CATHY: She didn’t offer me any impressions on the stats.

ELIAS: Essence family, Sumari; alignment, Zuli; orientation, common.

CATHY: Is she continuing, final or...?

ELIAS: Continuing.

CATHY: I had a quick question about my essence name. It was interesting to me that in New Orleans Lynda tended to call me Felicity, and then recently Paula did the same thing. I was wondering if that is an indication that my essence tone has changed to sound more like Felicity than Felicia, or is that just them?

ELIAS: That is another focus.

CATHY: Oh, I see. That’s interesting.

Recently I had a dream in which you were standing next to me and we were looking at space and time as an undulating web of light. I was seeing the light kind of move through the waves, and you pointed out my focus of light, as a kind of being, perpendicular to the waves. You had on a suit of light with different faces and said that I had one too. I was wondering if that was an accurate translation of an interaction in the dream.

ELIAS: Yes.

CATHY: So my picture was pretty accurate?

ELIAS: Yes.

CATHY: Cool! Thank you for that. That was fun. (Elias chuckles) I really enjoyed that one.

This is for my mother, a question I was supposed to ask for her last time we spoke but I forgot to. She had a focus impression in which she was drowning, and her thought as she was drowning was what goes down must come up. She wondered if that was tied to the focus or the experience that we shared on the Titanic.

ELIAS: Yes.

CATHY: And that phrase is pretty accurate? (Elias nods) Okay.

This is kind of silly. Ever since my first light dream back in 1995, and then I had the crocodile dream, as I call it, I always had the sense that I keep coming into these things that I planned to be doing just a little bit late, like I’m always coming in in the middle, so to speak. We recently had a discussion on the intermediate list about this being maybe a common phenomenon for intermediates to feel like we’re coming into something after it’s already started and trying to catch up with ourselves.

ELIAS: Yes.

CATHY: So, this late thing — do we get to catch up with whatever it is? (Laughs) Or are we always going to be late?

ELIAS: In actuality, it is not a matter of catching up or being late. It is a matter of perception and when you notice. For as I have expressed previously with other individuals in relation to this particular orientation, much of what you do in processing is accomplished subjectively. Therefore, objectively you are unaware of your own process until a point in which you have assimilated enough information within the process to translate that somewhat into an objective awareness. This is what generates this feeling or this perception that you are moving into something in the middle or late, for you are in the middle of your process of information. But it is not a matter of catching up.

As an intermediate individual, you may notice within yourself that if you are attempting to evaluate how you are processing some direction or some subject matter, you do not know. This is a common expression with individuals that are of the intermediate orientation. If another individual inquires of you how you are processing information or how you arrive at a solution, your most common response is “I do not know.” You merely know at the moment that you have assimilated information, and it appears to you suddenly that you have offered yourself an answer.

CATHY: We constantly surprise ourselves.

ELIAS: Yes.

CATHY: It’s like wake up and whoa, where did that come from?

ELIAS: That is quite associated with that orientation.

CATHY: It can be a lot of fun to come into these things in the middle, because that’s when the most exciting things are happening anyway! You don’t have to sit through the boring bit! (Elias laughs with Cathy) We tend to also drop out more often before it seems complete to other people. It seems like other people continue longer, and we’re just like okay, got it, on to the next thing.

ELIAS: Yes. But that would be a difference between the intermediate and the common individuals. Common individuals are quite fascinated with chasing and playing with the dead mouse, and therefore, they continue to be analyzing and evaluating even once they have offered themselves information, and complicating. But you are correct that this is also an element of the manner in which intermediate individuals process information. Once they have assimilated, they are moving on to the next adventure.

CATHY: I’ve felt like, for instance, this particular adventure is kind of winding down for me and I’m kind of looking for the next step of activity to get involved in again. I’m just kind of like okay, yep, done that, now let’s move on. (Elias chuckles) I’ve kind of noticed that. I didn’t really put it into words as well as you did, but I have noticed that.

Some things they collect on the lists, this is for KC’s information on her color list that she keeps. Some of us discussed in New Orleans about focus colors and essence colors. Since I was a child, I was always enamored by this cadet blue crayon. I think it was Katie — not my Katie but Katie from the lists — that told me that she thought that was a good indication that that would be related to my focus color or my essence color. I was wondering if you could confirm.

ELIAS: Focus color.

CATHY: That’s what I was thinking, that that was the focus color. What about the essence color?

ELIAS: And do you incorporate an impression?

CATHY: I don’t know why, but burnt orange just came into my head.

ELIAS: Correct.

CATHY: Oh, really? (Laughs) I’m not even that crazy about burnt orange.

ELIAS: I may express to you, the colors that you incorporate as a focus color or as your signature color, which would be your essence color, may not necessarily be colors that within a particular focus you may be drawn to. You may even incorporate a dislike for certain colors. But the point is that each color incorporates a vibrational quality, and that is what you resonate with.

CATHY: I got a quick little image in my head of what a room would look like in cadet blue and burnt orange, and I thought that would be really attractive! (Elias chuckles) It’s so odd.

PATRICK: A lot of people would find that repulsive.

CATHY: A lot of people would find that repulsive, wouldn’t they?

ELIAS: Perhaps not Michael! (All laugh)

CATHY: Do you want your colors, Patrick?

PATRICK: Oh, sure. Focus color — I’m going to guess some sort of yellow, because when I was little that was always a color that drew me to it.

ELIAS: A sunflower.

PATRICK: And my essence color, this is just a random thing that popped into my head. I just thought of white.

ELIAS: Silver.

CATHY: That would make a pretty room, too. (Elias chuckles) What about Katie? Do you want your colors, Katie, the colors of you?

KATIE: How does that work?

CATHY: How about if I explain it later? You don’t have to offer an impression if you’re not comfortable with that. Would you like me to get your colors anyway?

KATIE: Okay.

CATHY: Let’s go for her colors. You’re going to ask me to offer my impression, aren’t you?

ELIAS: No.

CATHY: Good! (All laugh) Yay!

ELIAS: Focus color, magenta; essence color, lilac.

CATHY: What about you, Mike? You want yours?

MIKE: Oh, sure.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Play the game! Offer impression.

MIKE: I think in terms of simple colors: green.

ELIAS: Focus color, that of grass. And the other?

MIKE: Blue, just regular old blue! (Elias chuckles) Not cadet blue, not navy blue, just blue.

ELIAS: Cobalt blue — but that would be regular blue.

CATHY: Paula and I went through seriously tearing down some walls recently, for me. At first I thought it was going to be for her, but it turned out it was my own things. It was facing some pretty difficult truths of mine, and I felt later after we’d gone through all of that that we had really done some huge exploding of the brick walls that we were talking about in New Orleans that I had been pounding my head against.

ELIAS: Ah! Congratulations!

CATHY: Then all of a sudden, the wall just went pfoo! It was just gone. It was this big gaping hole.

What was interesting about it was in New Orleans I thought there was a little window, just from our talk there, and then I looked out this big gaping hole and I noticed that the landscape was completely empty. There was nothing in it; it was just a totally blank sort of desert-y, dry landscape. I kind of gave this analogy to Paula and termed it “finding the big empty,” and felt like she was standing over my shoulder kind of looking at it with me. It was very daunting. It was very scary-looking because I didn’t know what I was going to put in that, but I felt such a peace once we actually managed to look at that. I did not “not do,” but I was very actively bashing my head against that wall, and it felt like some major changes happened.

Then I had a dream at the same time where some doctors were looking at my brain, like a brain scan, and there were crusts of continents on the brain and they were breaking up and shifting and moving around on the surface of the brain. I thought that’s not too bad, it doesn’t look deadly so it was going to be all right.

So, I felt like all of that was kind of tied together. I was just wondering if there was anything you could say about that whole process that she and I did, because we basically threw everything out there to see what was going to happen. It was like shoving dynamite into a window and just seeing what would happen when you explode it.

ELIAS: I am acknowledging of you. I may also express to you, the freedom in what you have accomplished is that within this emptiness of this landscape, so to speak, you incorporate the ability to choose whatever you wish...

CATHY: ...to plant in it.

ELIAS: Yes, and to be as creative as you want to be.

CATHY: I got the impression that I was putting a few little sprouts in place, maybe just tentatively stepping a little tiny toe out into it, but not really just going in and grabbing the whole thing at once but kind of taking my time. I felt like it could be cowardly or it could be a balance.

ELIAS: I may express to you that that type of movement at this point in this time framework is wise, for that allows you to move in increments and not overwhelm yourself, which could occur easily.

CATHY: Yes, I can see that. (Both chuckle) Paula’s being very kind; she’s not shoving me out into it! I am very pleased with the way the interaction with Paula went. We just both seemed to get an awful lot out of that. It was very rewarding.

ELIAS: I express my acknowledgment to you. I am aware of the frustration that you were experiencing previously.

CATHY: Yes, enormous frustration! I’m surprised I don’t have more of a headache from that wall-hitting! But no, we did okay, and I was really happy with that.

So anyway, that covers my list here, and I was going to let Patrick ask some questions if he would like to.

PATRICK: I can’t think of anything. (Elias laughs)

CATHY: What was the thing you were thinking of earlier?

PATRICK: Oh, let’s see. The other day I woke up from a dream that I don’t actually remember and I got an impression of an event that was supposed to happen February 9, 2048. I was wondering if I just pulled that out of the air, if that’s actually significant, or if I got the date wrong or what. It was a certain event.

ELIAS: First of all, let me express to you, impressions are not fantasy. They are communications, and therefore, they are also real. Individuals incorporate a strong tendency to doubt their own impressions or to doubt information that they offer to themselves. This is a large challenge for most individuals, to trust and accept that what they present to themselves is quite real.

This would be a date in which another focus of you is born. Therefore, a significant event but offering yourself information concerning yourself — which is the same, in a manner of speaking, as connecting with a past focus, but it may appear somewhat different for the association is different when you present yourself with one that you consider to be future. That may feel suspect somewhat more, for there is an automatic association that future has not occurred and therefore does not exist. But in actuality, outside of this reality in which you experience linear time, you incorporate the ability now in this focus to tap into information which is simultaneous. All times are occurring now. Therefore, future or past matters not. It is all now, regardless, and you incorporate the ability to tap into that.

This is also significant, for in this time framework many individuals are beginning to tap into energy of future focuses. Which, the reason that this is significant is that future focuses can be helpful in your shifting, for they incorporate information beyond what you incorporate through experience. Future focuses that have been emerged in time frameworks beyond the completion of this shift or near the completion of this shift emerge or are born into this physical reality already shifted, for their focus shall incorporate a time framework, an expanse, in which the Shift is completed, and therefore, they already are shifted.

CATHY: If he opens himself up to that focus, that focus can ease his path a little?

ELIAS: Yes. It can be helpful even as a baby or a child, for it is already shifted. Therefore, its experience as a small one is already aware.

CATHY: I find Patrick to be pretty sensitive as it is, even at this date, to the energy around him. For instance, when Paula and I were going through what we were going through, he was sensing it, and then the next day he was telling me how his tension had just released. I got the impression that a lot of his tension had been related to picking up on my tension, and that when I released a lot of the tension, he felt it. I’m sure he’s got his own things that he was responding to, too; it’s not like he’s just mirroring me.

ELIAS: Correct.

CATHY: But he was saying that he really noticed suddenly he was more relaxed. He was not as conflicted feeling about things; he was more willing to just kind of let things unfold as they will.

ELIAS: Correct. Individuals in this time framework now experience varying degrees of awareness. Individuals that you perceive to be younger incorporate a natural widening awareness that you may incorporate some challenge in accomplishing. But the younger the individual is, the more they express a natural openness and also a natural directing of themselves, for the more they are associating with the movement of this shift objectively. Small ones that are emerging into this physical reality now are expressing even more of a wider awareness and a sensitivity to energy and an understanding of their reality and of consciousness. There are many (who are) even aware sensually; they view or hear other essences.

CATHY: Katie does that.

ELIAS: Yes.

CATHY: One day she was asking me, because she could almost feel when she’s on the back end of our house alone, she can almost feel others around her, and she wondered if that was a normal thing. I told her that was fine. I really think she’s picking up on the presence of others there.

ELIAS: Yes.

CATHY: She’s actually interacting with them in a way, because she’s aware that they’re there and she’s offering her energy back in a communication.

ELIAS: Yes, yes.

KATIE: Are you talking about me or some other Katie?

CATHY: You. You were telling me about that. (Elias chuckles)

As you were talking, I was thinking about two things. Kids today, we are all aware, are really, really much more knowing in their abilities than us old farts are. (Elias laughs with Cathy) I bet that makes it really tough for a lot of parents to figure out what to do if their kids (inaudible). Do they just stand back? It’s really hard to...

ELIAS: It is somewhat challenging for some individuals. But you may also notice individuals that incorporate small ones in a family, the parents are also changing. In a manner of speaking, as the small ones are very directing of themselves and expressing less and less willingness to be directed, the parents also adjust to that energy and reflect more of an allowance than individuals may have in your previous century.

Now; I may express, there are some individuals that are somewhat more rigid, and that generates considerable conflict. For the small ones are quite strong in their expression and their knowing of directing of themselves and hold to that directedness quite strongly.

CATHY: Right. It’s almost like if a parent can just let go for a moment, then they would be able to see that the kid really can figure things out themselves.

ELIAS: This is one manner in which large groups and establishments are being moved into change, for they are being challenged in their functioning if they do not change. Which, this is also another element of this shift that you can actually watch, that you can...

CATHY: Well, you can watch it with history just unfolding the way it is. Everything is becoming dispersed instead of directed from... I mean, just looking at the responses to the September 11 thing, help just popped up and went to where it was needed. It took the government four days to get on board, and meanwhile everyone else had been doing what had to be done. It’s really fascinating. (Elias chuckles)

I watch my kids and I just think wow, how lucky I am to be able to witness this! Then there are other times when I’m banging my head against the wall. (Elias laughs) Aaahhh! Do what I want! Do what I want!

ELIAS: It is an amazing unfolding of change.

CATHY: It is. It’s truly amazing. I’m really impressed when I step back and just look at it from the larger perspective. It can be so positive, but when you’re looking at just the individual pieces of it, it’s easy to get completely depressed. (Elias chuckles)

I had something else but it just went whizzing by really quickly. It was one of those other things that they tend to collect on the lists. Help me out here. What was it?

PATRICK: The only thing I heard was the plane.

CATHY: Do you have something else? What about you, Mikey? Let me think for just a minute here, see if I can find that thought. Do you know what that thought was? (Elias chuckles)

Oh, it was that question of dispersed-ness they talk about on the Web. Some essences are dispersed and others are not. It was talking about the dispersed responses in structures and society and stuff, so it kind of sparked the question of dispersement. Can you explain a little bit more what it means for someone to be dispersed? Are any of us a dispersed essence?

ELIAS: No.

CATHY: I didn’t think I was.

ELIAS: It is not a common expression of essence. It is somewhat of a challenge to offer an accurate exploration and explanation of dispersed and non-dispersed essences, for these are nonphysical expressions and do not easily translate into what is known within your reality. It is quite different.

I may offer somewhat of an explanation but may also express to you that it is figurative. It is not literal, for it is not an accurate translation. But were you to visualize an essence as a thing, which it is not, but were you to visualize an essence as a thing, essences generally would be contained or perhaps expressed as a bubble. A dispersed essence does not incorporate that bubble.

CATHY: They’re more like a cloud.

ELIAS: It would be more likened to air. There is no membrane; there is no boundary. Remember, these are figurative, for there is no boundary with a non-dispersed essence, either. But you can notice at times a dispersed essence for they express themselves naturally in very similar manner to individuals that have intentionally developed their empathic sense. There is a very similar action that occurs. Dispersed essences move naturally through consciousness, through all essences. They easily connect with other essences and other elements of consciousness; whereas, you would incorporate developing your empathic sense to generate that same action.

CATHY: I wonder, would my mother be a dispersed essence? (Pause)

ELIAS: Yes.

CATHY: Ah, okay! That explains her! (Laughs)

ELIAS: Individuals that are dispersed, whether they are objectively aware of that or not, incorporate a natural tendency to receive information and energy from many different sources. They naturally draw energy. Therefore, some individuals that are dispersed may associate themselves or other individuals may associate with them that they are sensitives or that they may be psychic...

CATHY: That’s always the word we’ve used to describe her.

ELIAS: ...for they naturally move through energies and draw energies to themselves. They are naturally aware of other energies that are expressed and occurring.

CATHY: Even when we haven’t spoken for a while, if something is going on with me, she just knows. She just senses it.

ELIAS: Yes.

CATHY: That would explain a lot right there. That’s very interesting.

PATRICK: Write that down.

CATHY: What? Oh. We’ll be getting the tape, too. I can write it down, though. I’ll tell her: “Hello, Mom. You’re dispersed.” (Laughter)

PATRICK: I was wondering, the focus that you mentioned being born on February 9, where is that going to be? Is that in this dimension, or is that somewhere else?

ELIAS: Yes, in this physical reality.

PATRICK: Where in this physical reality?

ELIAS: And your impression?

PATRICK: It’s one of those “A” continents.

CATHY: Antarctica!

ELIAS: Not the continent, but close — an island.

PATRICK: I don’t know. Got any hints for the island, like which hemisphere?

ELIAS: Your “A” impression is correct. It would be an island near Australia.

PATRICK: I don’t know that much about Australia.

ELIAS: Ah! Therefore, the challenge to investigate.

PATRICK: Yes. I’ll have to work on that. (Elias chuckles) Allow yourself to be sensitive to what you present to yourself. Feel the energy of what you present, and you shall find the island.

PATRICK: Is it a big island or a small island?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) Neither. It is not small, but it is not large, either.

PATRICK: All I’ve got so far is New Zealand.

ELIAS: No. (Chuckles)

CATHY: One thing we were talking about, the dispersed essence part — and I know this isn’t really it but to my intermediate mind it is — the thought of autism came up and how much that diagnosis is appearing now in our culture and our world. Where before it seemed pretty much an unknown, now there are a lot of kids being diagnosed with autism. I understand that’s not a signal for a dispersed essence or anything; that’s just where the idea came from.

Would you offer a little bit of a discussion of the subject of autism, on what’s going on? Is it a child basically choosing that as a way of closing out too much stimulus or too much outside direction, or is that more that she already receives so much stimulus that it’s a way of relaxing? I’m just trying to get a handle on what is actually going on there and whether one would be doing a disservice to a child like that by trying to force an issue, say self-care or whatever, as a parent. I’m trying to be really general here.

ELIAS: It is not a dis-ease. It is a difference in perception. It is a choice, but it does not concern lack of or too much stimuli. It is not associated with that subject. It is a choice of experience to be experiencing different elements of reality.

One, generally speaking, these individuals allow themselves to tap into more of what occurs in the space arrangement. All realities occupy the same space arrangement, but in association with how you generate perception and the blueprints of each reality, that is what generates the separation of the realities. In this present moment in this space arrangement that you occupy that you perceive in this structure, this room, there are five individuals and there are objects. In actuality, there are numberless expressions of beings in this space. They all overlap. But you are unaware of what else occupies this same space arrangement, for you generate a particular type of perception in association with this reality. Within other physical realities, there are also individuals that express a difference and allow themselves to view and interact with other elements within their space arrangement — which may be some of you.

In association with that choice, there is more of a comfort expressed with the individual in this reality to generate repetition or sameness in mundane actions associated with this reality, for there is a busyness that is occurring in interaction. Therefore, their environment is secondary, and it provides a stabilizing comfort to not generate that type of busyness in their environment. Figuratively, as an example, it may disturbing to you in your reality if a table is continuously jumping and dancing around your room. It may be distracting and distressing to you, for as you move about your room you may be bumping into the table as it dances.

CATHY: I’ve been bumping into a lot of things the past couple of days! (Elias laughs) I really have! Are they jumping in my way?

ELIAS: Therefore, in your reality it is efficient that you generate a table as a solid object that does not move. In actuality, it does move, but in your perception, it does not move, and that generates a stabilizing comfort with you. Individuals that choose this other type of perception incorporate perception to a degree that follows the blueprint of this reality, for they have chosen to be participating in this reality. Therefore, they view the same objects as you view. They create somewhat of a similar reality to yourselves, but they create also considerable differences.

I would suggest to any individual concerning any situation not to attempt to force another individual to generate any action. But also remember that they generate their reality also. Therefore, what is occurring within their reality they are also choosing.

CATHY: It’s such a fine line as a parent. Do you just go by what feels the right thing to do in that moment? I’m thinking of things like washing hair or just the general day-to-day things. As a parent, you’re kind of looking for independence. I know that’s a belief system, too. You don’t want to do the thing that’s going to hinder later by creating... Maybe it’s just when we look too far in the future.

ELIAS: Pay attention now and be present now, and listen to your intuition.

CATHY: It gets scary. It just gets scary sometimes.

ELIAS: Remember, you are generating a cooperation. Therefore, cooperate. Pay attention to what you are cooperating with, and in that cooperation, generate an openness in sharing. You share and she shares. That is the cooperation. You are not demanding or dictating, you are sharing, and you are allowing to receive, also.

CATHY: I so often feel guilty, like I would hurt her by wanting a little more independence. Sometimes I feel that I’m being demanded on and I feel guilty for that, so I end up just making it more difficult.

ELIAS: This is significant that you pay attention to you and your communications, for you are not being helpful if you are not paying attention to you, and you are not being supportive if you are not paying attention to you.

CATHY: It’s just hard! It’s so hard.

ELIAS: Unfamiliar. Pay attention to the expectations you express with yourself. This is important, for remember, you reflect what you project. Therefore, if you are generating expectations of yourself to perform in certain manners or to provide in any manner, that is the energy that you are projecting, and therefore, that is what you shall reflect. You shall recreate that. You shall create the need as the reflection of your expectation of yourself. If you are not generating the expectation, the reflection is not of need.

CATHY: I feel like you’re showing me another wall of the tower. Break down one wall, and Patrick can see it and feel it, and everything changes and shifts between us. Now you’re pointing off to the left. Oh, gosh!

ELIAS: Another challenge.

CATHY: (Dryly) Thanks. (All laugh)

ELIAS: Ah, but remind yourself and acknowledge how you express such freedom in breaking your wall!

CATHY: That was a good feeling to break it, but I didn’t think I was quite ready for the next wall yet. But I guess I am, since I asked the question!

Oh, gosh. Well, I guess it’s time to wrap this up. Have I got a wall behind me too that you’re going to show me later?

ELIAS: That would be your choice, what you are presenting to yourself. (Chuckles)

CATHY: Yes, I know. I think maybe I’ll just walk out of the tower next. (Elias laughs) The landscape looks a little better.

ELIAS: Ah! Rather than pounding.

CATHY: Yes. (Elias chuckles) Okay, got my next job!

ELIAS: Very well. I express to you great encouragement, and I shall be offering my energy in supportiveness also and an acknowledgment that you CAN accomplish.

CATHY: Thank you very much.

ELIAS: And I shall express to each of you my energy in appreciation and acknowledgment in each of your movements. I express to you, my friend, encouragement and supportiveness in your new adventures, and great lovingness to you each. I express to you all in fond friendship, au revoir.

CATHY: Au revoir.

Elias departs after 1 hour.

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