Session 1789
Translations: ES

A Belief in Co-Creation


“A Belief in Co-Creation”
“Ghosts and Hauntings”
“It Is Quite Real”

Sunday, July 3, 2005 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Axel (Pauline)

(Elias’ arrival time is 18 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

AXEL: Hello, Elias!

ELIAS: Ha ha! Welcome!

AXEL: Thank you very much. I am very happy to talk to you. How are you?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) As always, and yourself?

AXEL: Well, I know that you are as always. I’m going to say that I’m as always, as well. (Elias laughs) I’m so exited and happy to talk to you. I talked to you already subjectively, and now it’s objectively the first time.


AXEL: I have some questions, and I would like to start with questions about my partner, Anne. First of all, she would like to know her essence name.

ELIAS: Essence name Dakota, D-A-K-O-T-A.

AXEL: And she would like to know her essence family.

ELIAS: And the impression?

AXEL: She thinks that she’s like me, Sumari/Sumafi.

ELIAS: Reverse.

AXEL: Sumafi/Sumari?


AXEL: Is she a final focus?


AXEL: While I’m talking about this, am I Sumari and Sumafi, myself?


AXEL: I have other questions about Anne, then. She would like to know about her dad. Her dad died three years ago. At that time, she had the feeling that he was trying to talk to her. I would like to know what you think about it, if he’s trying to get in touch with her or to communicate with her.

ELIAS: Not trying, but is. It is merely a matter of noticing and paying attention. This individual is not engaging transition yet and therefore is continuing to create objective imagery which resembles that of your physical reality, although the individual is aware that the choice has been engaged to disengage. Therefore, the individual is aware that they are no longer participating within physical focus but continues to generate imagery similar to your physical reality.

Now; the individual that continues within physical focus can be receiving energy from the individual that has disengaged, if allowing herself to express an openness. As I have expressed to other individuals, one manner in which she may be aware of the presence of his energy is through the responses of creatures. That may be a clear indicator. Creatures are quite aware of other essences and energies that are nonphysical, and creatures actually physically see those energies and respond to them. Therefore, this may be an indicator to her in moments in which his energy is present, and she may interact with that energy.

I may also express to you, you may offer to her the information that if she is engaging communication with this individual, he shall be aware of what she is expressing.

AXEL: Thank you very much for that.

I also would like to know, Anne at times is experiencing strange feelings. It’s as if things were happening in her mind, as if she was perceiving different realities or other dimensions. I don’t know how to express it properly, but at times, anywhere, anytime, she can have the feeling that she can perceive other energies. She would like to know what it is, exactly.

ELIAS: This is herself allowing herself to engage other focuses of herself, whether they be within this physical dimension or other physical dimensions. They are other focuses of herself that she is allowing herself to tap into, and therefore also allowing herself alternative perceptions. That may also be developed if so choosing, and she may actually generate visualizations of these other focuses and even generate projections in which she may momentarily be the other focus.

AXEL: I would like to ask you as well about other focuses of Anne. She thinks that she has a focus in Roman and Egyptian times, and she would like to know if it is true or not.


AXEL: She would like to know if Aurelia is another focus of hers.


AXEL: We have a neighbor called Janelle. One day we were talking in the kitchen, and suddenly Janelle was channeling another essence. We would like to know if the essence talking through Janelle was Anne’s uncle, Joe. He died last year, and she would like to know if it was him or not.


AXEL: Can you tell me who it was?

ELIAS: This would be another facet of the individual’s essence, expressing information through the individual focus. This is not uncommon for individuals to tap into their own essence, other facets of their own essence, and express information.

Now; other facets of your essence may be expressed in other areas of consciousness, nonphysical areas of consciousness. Therefore, those facets of the essence are privy to other actions that are occurring within consciousness and can be expressing information concerning other individuals that have disengaged. But that is not the actual individual that has disengaged, it is information that this individual’s essence is presenting concerning other individuals. Are you understanding?

AXEL: Yes, I am. I have another question. It is about someone called Margaret, Anne’s cousin. Margaret thinks that she has a focus on the Titanic and would like to know if it is true or not.


AXEL: Now there are some questions about me. At times, I feel some vibrations in my head and my body, and at times, I have some visions. I see things about people and about the past or the future, although I understand that everything is happening in the now. I would like to know if it is real or if it is something that I’m making up.

ELIAS: No, it is quite real.

Let me express to you, my friend, you all incorporate this ability, but some individuals more naturally allow themselves to engage this ability and more easily develop that in allowing themselves to practice with this type of action. I may express to you, the more that you practice with this, the more accurate your interpretations shall become. For what you are doing is tapping into other individuals’ energies and allowing yourself to assimilate what is occurring within the energy of other individuals, and that offers you information. In that, you are tapping into one layer of other individuals’ energies, but you can develop that to be expanding your ability in assimilating and translating the energy of other individuals.

The vibration that you are experiencing is an action that occurs in what you would term to be a heightened awareness. It is your body consciousness expressing a heightened awareness, which allows you to naturally generate an openness to other energies, be it with another individual or even with other focuses of your own or of other individuals, and even tapping into energies of other essences.

AXEL: I would like to ask you another question. I would like to know if I have a focus called Raymond. At times, I see a kid; he must be about five years old. He was kidnapped, raped and killed in 1929 in the USA. His name is Raymond. I would like to know if it is real or not.


AXEL: Why do I see the boy at times? It’s totally unexpected. At times, I see what this man does to him. I would like to know if it has a meaning.

ELIAS: The reason that you allow this energy or you draw this energy to yourself is twofold. One aspect is that you incorporate several other focuses that have experienced similar actions, and the other aspect of why you draw this particular focus to yourself is that it is a scenario that is somewhat disturbing.

In being a disturbing experience, this presents a challenge to you in an exercise of genuine acceptance of experiences and of choices. It is providing you an example of different types of experiences that may appear to you to be negative or distressing or uncomfortable, but it is an opportunity for you to be genuinely evaluating the aspect of choice and not being a victim.

AXEL: I understand. I would like to ask you another question. I believe that I create my reality, but I have a very, very strong belief in co-creation. This belief stops me from doing a lot of things, and I don’t offer to myself a lot of choices because of this belief of co-creation. I’m going to give you one example, and I’ll give you another one so that you can try to explain.

I’m looking for a job at the moment, and to me, the belief that I have is that someone is going to create this job and someone is going to give me this job. For example, if I go for an interview for a job, when I see this person in front of me and he is asking me questions to give me this job, I have the feeling that this person is going to create the job and this person is going to give me the job. That’s why I have to think of this to trust myself, that I have this strong belief in co-creation.

ELIAS: I am understanding. This, my friend, is not unusual. But I may express to you, this is another element of this shift in consciousness, redefining your reality and generating a clearer objective understanding of how you actually create your reality and what occurs within it. That empowers you to be creating intentionally what you want.

Now; in this, all that exists within your reality is an expression of you. You do interact with other individuals, but all that you physically view and all that is within your physical reality is a projection that you have created in translation of energies. Therefore, although you may be interacting with another individual that you perceive to be interviewing you, you are interacting with that individual’s energy, but you are creating the actual physical reality of that. In this, you create constant reflections of what you express within your energy. Other individuals reflect to you what you are projecting in energy.

Now; let me explain. This is an amazing, precise action that you all engage. There is no accident in all of your interactions. It is not a situation in which you are manipulating another individual. What actually occurs in your reality is that every individual that you present to yourself within your reality, you have specifically drawn each individual, to be reflecting. Therefore, the important element is that you be aware of what YOU are projecting. It is important that you are paying attention to YOU and acknowledging YOU and appreciating YOU, for that is the energy that you shall project. Therefore, you shall precisely draw to yourself individuals that shall accurately reflect that to you.

If you are engaged in an interaction with another individual as in this example, and you are generating this interview, the interview and the outcome of it shall be determined by you, not by the other individual. For dependent upon what type of energy you are projecting, you shall draw to yourself a specific individual to be engaging that scenario of the interview that will reflect whatever YOU are projecting. Therefore, in a moment you may be engaging an interview with one individual and perhaps the outcome shall not be favorable, in your perception. But in that moment, you drew that particular individual rather than countless other individuals, for that particular individual shall reflect what you are projecting, that being a lack of confidence or trust in yourself or perhaps a lack of appreciation.

Now; you can practice with experimenting to reinforce your trust of your ability to be actually creating your reality and to offer you validation that this is actually what occurs. The manner in which you can practice and experiment is to be expressing some genuine appreciation of yourself and viewing what type of response you receive from other individuals, if that is what you are expressing — not necessarily verbally, but genuinely acknowledging some element of appreciation of yourself. It matters not what you are appreciating concerning yourself. It matters not whether you assess it to be a small element or a large element. Regardless of what it is that you choose that you can genuinely appreciate concerning yourself, that action automatically expresses a very powerful energy which projects outwardly from you, and other individuals shall notice.

As an example, you may be in a moment genuinely acknowledging some element of appreciation of yourself — perhaps your eyes, that you genuinely appreciate the color of your eyes, and you genuinely incorporate that appreciation as a strong preference of yours. In that moment, you may encounter another individual and they may express to you that your appearance is somewhat different or that you appear more attractive in that moment or that they are noticing some difference of you but are not quite clear what the difference is, but they are noticing. This is a validation to you of the energy that you are projecting. It allows you to experiment and also generate feedback in reflection, which reinforces your trust of your ability.

If you are generating an experience such as your example, as you are interacting with the other individual, temporarily, in your terms, imagine that the other individual disappears but you continue to be interacting and you continue to be discussing, but there is no other individual any longer for you have imagined the individual to disappear. Now replace the individual with an image of yourself. Now you are conducting the interview between you and you.

AXEL: I understand; I think I understand. But there is something that I don’t understand. For example, if I go to an interview for a job, what happens if I want this job, not because I think that having this job is better than not having one, I just want to experience this job, but what happens if the interviewer doesn’t want to give me this job? Will what I experience and what he experiences in his reality be totally different?

ELIAS: That is a possibility. As I have expressed previously, at times this does occur, in which two individuals may be interacting with each other and creating two very different realities. Generally speaking, that is not what you actually create. You may create that in moments, which is not unusual, but generally speaking, in a scenario such as the one that you are presenting, you are interacting with each other’s projection of energy in the same subject, and in that interaction, you are each generating what you have drawn to yourself, as I expressed to you previously.

You may be engaging an interview concerning a particular form of employment, and you may want this employment or you may think you want this employment, but you may not be trusting of yourself and therefore projecting that type of energy and creating an outcome in which the other individual does not want to offer that particular employment to you. But the point is is that you have drawn that particular individual to you in that moment for that is the type of energy that YOU are projecting.

AXEL: I understand very well. It means that now, if I turn the attention to myself and in the now if I trust myself, the interviewers that I will draw to myself will offer jobs to me?


AXEL: Okay, I understand. I have this belief of co-creation; it was difficult for me to understand it, but now I understand. Thank you very much.

ELIAS: Very well.

AXEL: I would like to ask you another question about what happened to me. I imagine that it is still happening, as everything is happening in the now. When I was four years old, I was sleeping in a house in a bed, and I saw like an essence or what I would call a ghost. That’s what I called it when I was small. It was all black with yellow eyes. It was staring at me as if it was trying to scare me. I was terrified. I must confess that since this time I have always been scared of (inaudible), and I’d like to know if you can tell me what this thing that I saw was.

ELIAS: I may express to you that it was an energy of another essence, but it also was a translation of yours of that essence. You translated that energy, being unfamiliar to you, into an image that was frightening. The energy of that essence in actuality was not being threatening and there was no intention of harmfulness, but this is the manner in which you translated that energy as an unfamiliar energy. Which, once again, is not unusual, for many unknowns and unfamiliar expressions or energies are suspect within your physical reality, and unknowns and unfamiliar expressions or manifestations become somewhat frightening, for it is difficult for you to translate what it actually is, for it is an unknown to you.

Just as many individuals encounter other-dimensional focuses of themselves in an actual physical manifestation that they may classify as an extraterrestrial, in actuality it is a bleed-through and is another focus of themself which occupies another physical dimension. But that is an unknown. Therefore, many times the translation of that is that it is threatening, and it generates fear within the individual.

Individuals generate fear in relation to what they assess as ghosts, for this also is an unknown, and it presents a challenge in how to translate that unknown. Your automatic response is generally “what does this unknown want?” And as it is unfamiliar, it is translated as threatening.

AXEL: I understand.

ELIAS: Now; I may express to you, now that you have allowed yourself to objectively interact and engage conversation with myself, perhaps I may generate an apparition to appear to you, and in that, perhaps your fear shall dissipate in knowing that my energy is not harmful and not threatening, and in actuality may be quite playful. (Laughs)

AXEL: Yes, I hope so. I really hope so.

Since I was a small kid, I’ve always been interested in out-of-body experiences. I’ve always wanted to be able to do that, but the problem is that I’ve always been scared (inaudible). I think that this fear has stopped me so far.

ELIAS: Yes, I am in agreement. But let me express to you quite definitely, my friend, essences are not intrusive, and there are no evil spirits. Therefore, there are no energies that shall be harmful to you in association with nonphysical energies. Any energy or individual that would be harmful to you within physical reality, once again, you choose and you draw to yourself to generate that experience. But within nonphysical areas of consciousness, essences do not express that type of action. There is no intrusiveness within essence.

AXEL: Okay, I understand. I would like to ask you as well, I know that the shift in consciousness is happening at the moment. I would like to know if I have shifted myself.

ELIAS: You are shift-ing, yes. (Chuckles) The action of shifting is that of widening your awareness, and you are widening your awareness and you are shifting, which is redefining your reality and redefining terms within your reality, and that alters your reality. The more that you widen your awareness, the more you become familiar with yourself and how you create, the more you generate difference in your reality.

This is an action of becoming more aware of your perception and that your perception actually creates all of your reality, which, in that, allows you to intentionally manipulate your reality in the manner that you want, which is the point and one of the actions of this shift in consciousness. Also thinning the veils of separation, and that widens your awareness also.

AXEL: I understand. I would like to ask you another question about the time concept. You used to say that everything is happening in the now, right now. I would like to know if you could give me an example. What happened three minutes ago is happening now, and what is going to happen in three minutes from now is happening as well in the now?

ELIAS: Yes. This is the reason that it is significant and important to be aware of what you are doing in the now, what you are projecting, what is occurring, for what you create now also creates the past and the future. Your past is continuously being altered. It is as flexible as what you perceive to be the future, for it is continually changing. In each moment, any moment that you recall of previous experience changes it. Memory changes the past. Therefore, whatever you are experiencing now is also creating the future and the past.

AXEL: I understand. Let’s take an example. What will happen in September is actually happening now, hence the importance of turning the attention to the now?


AXEL: For example, if I want to do something in September and it is happening now, I have to imagine it and trust myself that it is happening in the now and I will be aware of it. One day it will come as I expected.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes, for the choices that you are generating now and the direction that you are generating now is what creates that future occurrence. But you occupy a physical reality in which one of the elements of the blueprint of this physical reality is linear time. Therefore, in the design of linear time, you insert experiences into the physical reality in conjunction with time. But in actuality, outside of the environment of your physical reality, all of these actions are occurring simultaneously.

AXEL: At the same moment, we create probabilities at each moment?


AXEL: I understand that. I would like to ask you another question about transition. I would like to know if I am in transition.


AXEL: I would like to know also what is my intent in this focus. I think that my intent is knowing who I am as essence and widening my awareness. I would like to know if it is the case.

ELIAS: That would be what you are doing in association with the shift. That would not necessarily be your intent in this focus.

As I have expressed to other individuals, the manner in which you assess what your intent in this particular focus is is to be evaluating what the theme of all of your experiences has been throughout the entirety of your focus, not merely now but from the onset of your focus. Throughout the focus, what is the general theme that has influenced your experiences?

AXEL: I understand. I would like to ask you another question about my fears. One day, I don’t know what happened to me at home. I was watching something on the TV that was talking about someone who was a serial killer in the USA, and somehow the fear came to me that this serial killer, who is now dead, was going to come in my bedroom and present himself in my bedroom. I think that with all these fears I created an image of him. I could feel his energy. Maybe it was my energy, but I could feel something in my bedroom, and I would like to know what it is exactly.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, fear can be a very powerful expression, and in that power, an individual, and yourself also, can actually create physical manifestations of the energy of fear, dependent upon how strongly it is expressed. What you generated in that experience was an actual forming of your own energy of fear. Had you continued, you could have actually generated a solid physical form. That is the powerfulness of the energy of fear.

But let me also express to you, this may be an example to you of how powerful your energy is. If you incorporate the power of energy in an expression of fear to generate a form, you also incorporate equal power to be generating other types of expressions that are more in keeping with your preferences.

Remember, essences are not intrusive. In this, whatever occurs within your physical reality that may be associated with a nonphysical energy is a translation of yourself to manifest in some threatening manner, just as with scenarios such as hauntings or poltergeists. What is actually occurring is there may be energy deposits within particular locations, there may be energies of individuals that have disengaged that may even contain some of the actual attention of that individual, generating stronger energy and a stronger presence, but it does not create physical occurrences that are disturbing. Individuals that interact with those energies are who create the actual physical disturbances.

I may express to you, an individual that has disengaged and is aware that they have disengaged and is projecting energy to individuals within physical focus may project an energy through layers of consciousness with enough strength to incorporate the action of a plant moving, the leaves of a plant moving, with no wind or no air disturbance, but it shall not levitate a vase and crash it to the floor. First of all, the energy required to manipulate physical objects within your physical reality from a point of a nonphysical attention is tremendous. It must be highly focused and projected through layers of consciousness, and that requires a tremendous volume of energy. For the most part, any nonphysical attention does not, in your terms, incorporate an interest in expressing that type of volume of energy. It is unnecessary.

When physical occurrences of disturbances happen, there may be an energy that is present that is nonphysical, but the physical occurrence is being generated by individuals that participate in physical reality. Your energy within your physical reality is very strong and can manipulate much more than you realize.

AXEL: I understand. I would like to ask you another question about projection of consciousness, as I tried to achieve out-of-body experiences for long years. I have never succeeded except once, when I had an out-of-body experience but it was totally unexpected. It did last about maybe ten seconds. After that, I tried a projection of consciousness. A friend of mine told me how to project myself just in imagination, but the problem is that I have a nonphysical place where I try to project, but the thing is that objectively I can’t perceive anything, I don’t see anything. I don’t know if when I imagine that I am there if I am really there or not. I would like you to explain this.

ELIAS: Imagination is quite real, and in this, as you generate a defocusing of your attention, that allows you to more easily project, and it is quite real.

The challenge for you is two elements. One is that you immediately discount your experience and express to yourself the doubt that it is real, which it is. The other is that you are not allowing yourself to relax. That generates a defocusing of your attention, which allows you to drift. Do not generate an expectation of how the projection shall proceed. Merely allow yourself to defocus your attention and accept what you generate.

Now; you can also incorporate a different method which you can experiment with, and that would be to choose a particular area or location that you want to project to, allow yourself to generate a strong expression of relaxation, not to the point of sleep but almost, and in that, engage your physical senses. Allow yourself to actually feel your physical senses in association with the other location. That shall encourage you to allow yourself to project.

This may be somewhat of a fun experiment for you, and one that would be less fearful, for you may incorporate a specific destination such as a meadow. In that meadow, as you visualize it, allow yourself to engage your physical senses. Feel the warmth upon your skin, smell the grass or the flowers, hear a breeze within the trees that surround you. Allow yourself to engage all of your physical senses in which you incorporate actual sense data of your physical body consciousness.

Subsequent to the experience or within the experience, do not discount it and express to yourself that this is not real, that it is imaginary, which in your terms is fantasy, although in actuality, all that is imagined is quite real.

AXEL: I would like to ask you two last questions. I would like to know about my partner’s uncle, Joe. My partner would like to know with Joe — he died last year — she would like to know where he is at the moment.

ELIAS: This individual also is not engaging nonphysical transition yet and is continuing to generate objective imagery in relation to this physical reality and is somewhat aware, not entirely yet, but is somewhat aware that there is a possibility that he is no longer participating in actual physical focus. Therefore, there is a partial awareness or a questioning within his perception of whether he is dead. (Chuckles)

AXEL: At times, I have the feeling when I go in a place, I can feel nonphysical essences. I would like to know if this feeling is real, or again if it is something that I make up.

ELIAS: It is quite real.

AXEL: You said that I was in transition. Can you give me the meaning of it, exactly?

ELIAS: Engaging transition within physical focus may be chosen for many different reasons. It occurs more frequently in this time framework, for it is an action that can enhance the individual’s movement in shifting.

The action of transition within physical focus may be chosen as a type of stepping stone for movement into nonphysical transition after death or it may be chosen for other reasons — to widen your awareness, to allow you to generate more easily experiences that you may not necessarily allow yourself if you are not engaging transition in physical manner. It allows you more of an openness to other facets of yourself, nonphysical and physical, other focuses, other-dimensional focuses. It may also allow you to be more open to thinning the veils of separation between yourself and individuals that have disengaged, or between yourself and other focuses, or thinning the veils of separation between yourself and all of your environment and all of your world.

It is quite efficient, actually, in association with this shift. For in the action of the shift, you are generating an action of becoming aware of your beliefs and accepting them. In nonphysical transition, it is a matter of shedding the beliefs that were associated with the physical reality. Therefore, in engaging transition within physical reality, that is helpful to you in accepting the beliefs that you incorporate within your reality.

AXEL: I understand. Well, I seem to have my last question. I hope I will interact with you nonphysically as well?

ELIAS: Ha ha! I shall be anticipating of that, and I shall be freely offering my energy to you!

AXEL: Yes, I hope when I go to sleep if I see an essence and if it is you, I hope I will not be scared.

ELIAS: Remember, I am quite fond of playfulness! (Laughs)

AXEL: Yes, yes, and I can’t wait. I would like to thank you very much for that, and as we say in my country, au revoir and merci.

ELIAS: And I express to you also, my dear friend, I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and I shall express my tremendous affection and appreciation to you. In great lovingness, au revoir.

AXEL: Thank you very much, Elias. Thank you.

Elias departs after 1 hour, 7 minutes.

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