Session 1713

Move in That Ease, Not Pushing


“Move in That Ease, Not Pushing”
“Attitude Toward Aging”

Sunday, February 13, 2005 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Pamela (Pviette)

(Elias’ arrival time is 14 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

PAMELA: Good morning, Elias. How are you?

ELIAS: As always! And yourself?

PAMELA: Great! Nice to talk to you.

ELIAS: And you also.

PAMELA: I’m going to ask for your assistance with this session, because it is my intention to create a session in which I accomplish all of my questions, and I know you are aware of how many there are. A lot of them I’ll probably just need a confirmation on, and some others I’m going to want to explore a little more and talk about maybe, but I’m going to ask your help that if I’m kind of being brief about something and it would benefit me to know a little bit more about it, then go into it, and vice versa. Okay?

ELIAS: Very well.

PAMELA: I think I want to start with my work scenario and what I accomplished last year in terms of changing careers. For this, it’s pretty much a confirmation of my job search and that I feel I’ve been able to pay attention a little more. The “pay attention” is still a struggle, and I want to talk with you about that a little bit later.

But in terms of the job search, I think some things clicked for me last year from the transcripts about moving from the familiar to the unfamiliar, and I’m understanding a little better about when something moves from concept into reality. I kind of feel it now when it happens. With my job search last year, I went about it from the stand point of not knowing what it was going to look like, but knowing that I wanted to not do it the way I’ve always done it my whole life, which is the way that society says — you need to do this, this and this. It was like, “No, I don’t want to go there.” So I just pretty much left myself open to new choices, even though I didn’t know what those choices were, because I had been reading about that, that I didn’t need to know what the choices were to open myself up to it.

I just had an epiphany in August of doing something that I would never, ever, ever have been open to doing previous to that, and yet it feels so right. So, I’d like to know your thoughts about that. I think where I really need assistance with this is moving into the idea of continuing with the trust that I’m going to be able to make a good living at it. I know it’s going to be in a different way than the traditional method of doing what I’m doing. Again, I don’t know what that’s going to look like, but one of the things that kind of stimulated me to schedule a session was that sometimes the fear pops up of what am I doing; I must be crazy! (Elias laughs) I know I’m not... I’m just a fan of Elias, and that’s my excuse!

ELIAS: And you are creating a new adventure and allowing yourself to pursue that new adventure in new and imaginative and creative manners. In this, continue to remind yourself how easily you created this new direction and how unconventionally you created that, and allow yourself to continue to express in that manner. Regardless that you may be engaging a type of activity that may appear to be very structured...

PAMELA: Yes, and conventional.

ELIAS: may incorporate your own creativity in that and breathe new life into a direction that surfacely appears to be very structured.

PAMELA: That’s what I have felt. For me to even be in this field, it’s something. Previously, because of my feelings about the medical field and the body’s ability to heal, I never was interested in working in the health industry. All of a sudden, here I am, and it’s like — whoa! This is just truly amazing, and yet I feel like there’s just something really different about it. So it’s exciting.

ELIAS: I am aware, and I offer to you my congratulations.

PAMELA: Thank you. It’s been really helpful. Your transcripts have been so helpful in helping me move little pieces of concept into reality. When they do, when they happen, it moves from that place of being words on a page, two-dimensional, to just expanding out, and you have this perception of it. That is what it is, isn’t it, that perception?

ELIAS: Yes, and also it becomes real. In that reality, you offer yourself tremendous freedom. As you continue to expand your awareness and you continue to generate these concepts into reality, you also continue to offer yourself new freedoms, and you become more aware of your individual power.

PAMELA: Yes. I still don’t see it. I mean it’s interesting; it happens so automatically. It’s funny. It’s almost like an automatic response, and yet... It’s very intriguing.

ELIAS: And that is how you create without engaging an intentional process — by trusting yourself and allowing yourself, rather than moving in directions that have already been established and that follow mass beliefs. Not that mass beliefs are bad, but at times they may be limiting.

In this, if you are allowing yourself, and you are following your own energy and allowing yourself to be directing of yourself and listening to yourself, you shall automatically present yourself with avenues to generate what you want. The reason that many individuals experience difficulty in this action is that they are attempting to force themselves to be creating, rather than merely allowing themselves to move and trust whatever direction they are generating, and following their energy in their individual treasure hunt.

PAMELA: One of the most recent transcripts released, the essence was Paneus, your discussion with him just opened up that concept for me of concept and reality. He was asking about wanting to create a relationship, and did he need to be more specific about the qualities of that person that he was interested in. You said no. The minute you said it, I knew exactly what you were going to say. For the first time, I could really see how I just tried to manipulate what was outside of me. Now I can see why it doesn’t work, because that’s projection. Yet — especially being common — it’s such a habit of I have to manipulate something out there. If I want to win the lottery, then I have to manipulate these numbers, or if I want to do something in particular then I have to make that change or make this person change. It was amazing to me how it again moved it just a little closer for me into the reality of seeing that you’re not trying to make something outside of you change or move.

ELIAS: Correct. I am acknowledging of you in your realization of what I have expressed. That is not the point. YOU are the point, and what you do and what you want to express, not what you want to acquire.

PAMELA: Yes, that’s what I’m saying. It helped me see that difference, because I’ve always been from that place of acquiring and now it’s no, it’s about generating it.

ELIAS: Yes, precisely.

PAMELA: Can you confirm, is it as solid in me as it’s feeling? I know I’ve got a ways to go with it, but I feel like I have a handle on it finally, that I get it.

ELIAS: Yes. I am acknowledging of you.

PAMELA: Thank you. I want to talk a little bit about my most automatic response. When you spoke recently — well, when I say “recently,” that’s a recently released transcript — with Don/Allard and you identified for him a most automatic response of not being satisfied with the current moment, wanting the next, waiting for the next moment, it just so triggered something for me of how much of my life I’ve felt I lived in that place. I always felt like the next moment would be better. I wasn’t satisfied now, so the next moment would be better, and that was totally just projecting out of the now.

I think I’ve shifted from that, where I’m in the now much more than I used to be, but I know I still find it challenging to pay attention to myself in the now. Especially my trait of when I get so involved in a passion or my new work, and there’s so much for me to learn and comprehend. I get so wrapped up in being left-brained about it and understanding it and trying to incorporate it. The whole day goes by, and I realize I had a great intention to be paying attention to myself, but of course, I didn’t. How can I remind myself more when I’m so involved in something mentally, trying to learn and grasp it? How can I better stay in attention with myself as well?

ELIAS: First of all, you may be somewhat perceiving this in black and white terms.

PAMELA: Paying attention?

ELIAS: Yes, and perhaps even too singularly, which is not uncommon. In this, many times you are paying attention to yourself and incorporating other actions also simultaneously. Let me express to you, in the expressions that I offer in communicating with any individual concerning being in the now and paying attention to self, that is not an exclusive action. I present it in the manner that I do, for many individuals are projecting their attention to the exclusion of paying attention to themselves. That is an action that has become very familiar to many individuals. In this, in association with the now, I emphasize that also, for many individuals project their attention either pastly or futurely to an extent in which they also exclude the now entirely.

Now; what I am expressing to you is that you notice those moments and allow yourself to pull your attention to you and to the now.

PAMELA: Notice what moments?

ELIAS: The moments in which you are projecting your attention to the exclusion of yourself and to the exclusion of the now.

PAMELA: But I’m not always aware of when I’m doing that. Just recently, again in a transcript, I’ve realized that there are many directions of paying attention to self, that it isn’t just one facet or one direction.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

Now; in this, also, you may be engaging in interaction with another individual, as an example...

PAMELA: Can we focus on when I’m totally involved in a task? I think I’ll understand that better.

ELIAS: Very well. If you are involved in a task, and you are concentrating upon that task or how you term it to be learning some method or some different task, you are actually paying attention to yourself.

PAMELA: When I’m totally involved in pulling numbers together, in pulling information together and writing it and filtering and trying to figure how to organize it, that’s paying attention to myself?

ELIAS: You are, in some capacity, for you are engaging an action of offering yourself information and assimilating that information.

Now; if you are involved in a particular task and it is consuming your attention, and you are ignoring certain signals...

PAMELA: Like if I’m feeling a twinge?

ELIAS: Or if you are beginning to experience fatigue, or if you are beginning to experience some element of restlessness or...

PAMELA: I feel overwhelmed a lot at times. So I’m in the middle of something and I feel overwhelmed and like I’m going to run out of time, how do I deal with that?

ELIAS: In that, as you notice that you are beginning to feel overwhelmed and that you are lacking time, stop and refocus. Refocus your attention in the task that you are doing. For if you are focusing your attention in the direction of the task that you are incorporating, you are not distracted and you shall incorporate enough time. If you begin to experience an overwhelmingness and your attention moves to the time, you are correct; you begin to not incorporate enough time, for you are no longer focused upon what you are doing. You are focusing upon the time, and therefore, the time continues to move, but you are not necessarily producing, for you are paying more attention to the time than the task.

PAMELA: It’s just that sometimes it’s not until the end of the day that I look back and where I say I feel like I’m not paying attention to myself, because I look back on the day and I think god, I hardly made a dent in something, or I just feel like there’s still so much more to do. There’s always so much more to do.

ELIAS: That is correct.

PAMELA: That’s the next challenge that I have with this, and it comes back to trusting that there’s going to be another way, or that I’m going to find another way than the traditional way because I don’t want this to be drudgery. I don’t want to be tied to a phone. I don’t want to do some of the things I’ve seen other people do to be successful. Then I battle with I’m not spending enough time on this, how can I develop clients if I’m not spending enough time on it?

ELIAS: Allow yourself to relax and not push your energy. You were not pushing your energy when you presented this avenue to yourself. You were allowing. This is the reason that I began this discussion with expressing to you to remember that action. Remember the action of how you generated this new direction.

PAMELA: That easiness.

ELIAS: Yes, and allow yourself to move in that ease, not pushing, not generating tremendous expectations of yourself, but allowing yourself to accomplish whatever you accomplish in one day and appreciate that, rather than discounting that by anticipating what you must do or by expressing to yourself that you have not generated enough. Allow yourself to acknowledge and appreciate whatever you have accomplished in one day, and that shall allow you to relax your energy more and not generate these automatic expectations of yourself and allow yourself not to project in anticipation of future.

PAMELA: I can feel I’ve just tied my energy up in a knot about it.

ELIAS: That is the point of paying attention to the now. Not that you are not paying attention to yourself, although there are moments in which you are not paying attention to yourself, that you may more efficiently generate by genuinely checking in, so to speak, with yourself periodically throughout your day, and merely incorporating a moment to evaluate how you feel, evaluate what your body consciousness is expressing, and to evaluate whether you are projecting in anticipation and pushing your energy, or whether you are actually allowing yourself to focus your attention upon a particular task and relaxing in that and acknowledging yourself with it. Are you understanding?

PAMELA: I am. There have been a lot of opportunities to go play with a friend and I’ve passed them all up. I’ve got one scheduled this coming week, and I feel guilty about it! It’s like no, I need to have that time developing business, but I need to have the time to relax and play, and I...

ELIAS: What is important my friend — listen to this — what is important, especially within this time framework, is balance.

PAMELA: Yes, you talked about that with the tsunami.

ELIAS: Yes. This is very important.

PAMELA: So I’m balancing if I’m allowing myself to play and not get into this place of not having enough time to do everything.

ELIAS: Correct. Allow yourself an incorporation of time to be playful, which also reinforces your appreciation of yourself and it is helpful to you to incorporate relaxing and not being so rigid.

PAMELA: Can you crystal-ball for me and assure me that I’m going to be able to pay all my bills and I’m not going to end up like some bag lady? (Elias laughs) It’s amazing, I’ve never been without money, and yet there’s something about this that’s just... I don’t see how I’m going to create it. It’s what scares me the most, and yet there’s a big part of me that knows I can do this.

ELIAS: And you can.

PAMELA: And I can play too, right?

ELIAS: And you can, and you ARE, and you will.

PAMELA: I want to talk about some of my other focuses. It’s very interesting to me, coming into awareness — you confirmed a lot of them in my last session — and I want to possibly get some more confirmations. The ones that have gotten in touch with me, that I’m in touch with in this focus, maybe fifteen or so, I’m sensing what we something about the way we interact with society. We share the absolute of feeling that we should be a certain way, or society expects certain things and so we need to toe the line and do those things. It’s interesting to me that I’ve connected with them in a way... it’s like I know them best by what they do as a livelihood. I know them best by that, as opposed to almost other things about them. Am I correct about the reasons I’ve connected with the ones I’ve connected with?


PAMELA: I feel there’s something important that I lend to this as final focus. I know I’ve heard you say often that really there’s not much difference between the beginning and final focus designations, and yet somehow I feel it’s important for me, maybe just in a confidence level. I don’t know. But one of them has shared with me that the reason that they’ve all gotten in touch with me is because they know I know that the past is changeable, and because of what I’m working with in my consciousness, they choose to be involved with that. When I first became aware of them, of course some of them seemed less than happy. I came to the place of I would love to see them make other choices and do better in their lives. Now, of course, I realize that that is totally discounting them and their choices, and I want to be in a place of honoring them and respecting them. How can I best lend energy to them? Is it merely by paying attention to myself? I know that’s true. But when I think of them, when I find myself conversing with one, how may I best lend energy to them?

ELIAS: By expressing a gentleness in energy and an acceptance of their choices.

PAMELA: And just being totally open to whatever they choose and not feeling they need to do or be anything different.

ELIAS: Correct. By accepting their choices, that is supportive, and by expressing a gentleness in your energy, that contributes an ease.

PAMELA: As I become more and more aware of how I create my reality, do they also become aware of that as they connect with me?

ELIAS: Somewhat, but not necessarily. They may not necessarily be more aware that they are creating their reality, but they become more aware of what they are doing, and they become more aware of themselves.

PAMELA: As final focus, I have a feeling, perhaps this is just a part of my intent — actually, I do think it is part of my intent, and I’d like your confirmation on this — I have this desire to put it all together. I have this desire to wrap it up, to organize all these experiences in this dimension, and I feel a tremendous responsibility, but not in a bad way about that. But somehow, I feel that as final focus I lend a strength to that, that perhaps if I were not the final focus, there would not be that additional element.

ELIAS: Correct. But I shall qualify: this is unique to you and is not an element of the designation of a final focus. It is...

PAMELA: It has to do with my intent in this dimension.

ELIAS: Yes. Therefore, it is an intent and a direction that is unique to you.

PAMELA: Is there a higher percentage of final focuses during this shift?

ELIAS: Not necessarily.

PAMELA: Is the final focus more able to incorporate — maybe again this is just me — but I feel an ability to really feel and appreciate all the families, all the colors, all the orientations. I want to talk to you about orientation later, but I also feel sometimes like I switch back and forth between them. Is that again just a part of my wrapping up, my kind of savoring, starting to savor all the different elements of each that I’ve experienced in all the different focuses?

ELIAS: Yes. That once again would not necessarily be associated with the designation of a final focus, but it is in association with you.

PAMELA: I’ve also been trying to identify what this base fear is that has been a part of my consciousness for as long as I can remember. I’m starting to become aware that I think a part of it is I’m actually afraid of enjoying this reality so much that I’m going to choose to stay, and for some reason, I don’t want to fragment.

ELIAS: Ah, I am understanding. In this, it shall be quite helpful to you to genuinely allow yourself to be present in the now and to allow yourself to appreciate whatever you are generating in the now, rather than projecting your attention in anticipations.

PAMELA: Yes, it is. I didn’t realize that. Thank you.

ELIAS: Allow yourself to genuinely appreciate and savor what you are doing now and what you are generating now, rather than anticipating its disappearance.

PAMELA: Can I choose to return after I leave the dimension?

ELIAS: You can, but that would also be a choice that would involve a fragmentation.

PAMELA: Why would I be afraid of fragmenting?

ELIAS: It is not a fear of fragmenting; it is a preference to not. But you also incorporate a strong interest and curiosity for this physical reality. Let me express to you, at the point in which you shall choose to disengage from this physical reality, I may assure you that you shall incorporate equal curiosity for whatever new adventure you choose. It is not an ending. It is merely a movement into another direction, which you are quite familiar with even within this particular focus. But I may express to you also, the reason that you incorporate such an intensity of fascination and curiosity and appreciation for this physical reality is that you are actually allowing yourself to tap into the energies of other focuses of yours that also generate considerable excitement in exploring in their focuses.

Many of your focuses incorporate a strong fascination with this physical reality and a strong appreciation of it, and that energy you translate into your own appreciation and fascination with your exploration of this physical reality. You offer examples of other focuses to yourself of similarities in energy or experience or in beliefs or in perceptions. But you are drawing the energy of many other focuses that enhance and reinforce your view of this reality, which is another action that you have incorporated in what you term to be the tying up or organizing in your role.

PAMELA: I guess that leads me to getting some confirmation on some focus details. I realize I’m always Milumet; I’m always belonging to Milumet. Do I have a preference for Sumari alignment?


PAMELA: I haven’t been able to come up with connections between you and me, and I’m sensing they’re out of this dimension.


PAMELA: Are there any lives that we’ve shared here? If so, I’d say France or the British Isles.

ELIAS: Correct. Two.

PAMELA: Timeframe?

ELIAS: France, early 1700s; Britain, early 1500s.

PAMELA: That was when I was a sorcerer. Correct?


PAMELA: That’s an interesting focus. Why can I not see this person? Recently, I’ve just finally decided he’s male, but it’s very interesting to me that I feel I know a lot about what happened to him, but I can’t seem to sense him. Am I correct that my cat, Baby Doll, was with me there?


PAMELA: You told me that he lends a lot of bleed-through to me. Why would there be resistance to my seeing him more?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) It is the conflict between logic and magic.

PAMELA: I’ll explore that, thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

PAMELA: But you and I are strongly connected out of this dimension, and I think it has to do with color, am I correct?


PAMELA: I hope we can get to that later. Are there any focuses that I would be able to find in a history book? For some reason, I don’t think I’m recorded anywhere. I’m not, correct?

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: Is my beginning focus the peasant girl that was trapped in the snow? She seems somehow undeveloped as a focus, so I’m taking that as a beginning focus.


PAMELA: The paralyzed boy, did he recently disengage?


PAMELA: He’s the one that first contacted me in this focus way back when, when I was very young, and he’s the one who has shared with me the connection with everybody else. I don’t feel that that’s gone, so I can still connect with him even though he’s disengaged.

ELIAS: Correct, which is an element of this shift in consciousness. These veils of separation are thinning, and they have been thinning. In this time framework, it is much easier for individuals within physical focus to be connecting to and interacting with those that have disengaged and vice versa.

PAMELA: The Roman artist-teacher, is he Sumafi aligned?


PAMELA: Is the merchant seaman Ilda?


PAMELA: Will you confirm a young sacrificial maiden raised solely for purpose of religious-sexual sacrifice? I think she’s Zuli.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: And did someone die as a result of loving her — me?


PAMELA: The sorcerer, is he Milumet/Milumet? (Pause)


PAMELA: What’s he aligned?

ELIAS: Zuli.

PAMELA: Really? I know he’s male; we talked about that. The elite athlete, Zuli?


PAMELA: There’s a connection with Zuli and Milumet, isn’t there? That’s why a lot of Zuli?


PAMELA: What timeline-location is that? I don’t get a sense of that. (Pause) Oh, I’m just thinking Greek...

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: ...Olympics?

ELIAS: Correct!

PAMELA: The alchemist is out of this dimension, and I think it’s male. Is he male? Maybe the gender doesn’t matter there as much.

ELIAS: Correct, but that would be an accurate translation.

PAMELA: Is he in a location similar to this, a planet? I believe he is.


PAMELA: Is there a name for that planet, that we know of?


PAMELA: Why does Lemuria feel warm and fuzzy to me and Atlantis feels jagged edges and emotionless?

ELIAS: For you incorporate focuses in both, and you incorporate less of a preference for Atlantis.

PAMELA: Is the alchemist there?


PAMELA: Will you confirm a woman on the East Coast? We talked about an East Coast focus in the time of Thomas Jefferson, but I think this is a contemporary 20th century female, married with a family, and she’s mostly content. I think she’s Borledim.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: A warrior, I think he’s Zuli or he could be Borledim, because what’s interesting to me is he’s huge, a very big man. He dies in battle. Society insisted that he be a warrior because of his size, and he really has a very gentle heart and he wanted to work with children. That’s why I’m not sure if he’s Zuli or Borledim.

ELIAS: Borledim.

PAMELA: And he’s familiar with the methods of war where they would just mass in a whole group and go with a whole group.


PAMELA: A stained glass artisan in France involved with the Gothic cathedrals?

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: Would that have been the focus where I knew you?


PAMELA: Sumari, though?


PAMELA: An architect/landscape architect in England, British Isles?


PAMELA: A singer, choirboy, again in England.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: A dancer, and I have no idea of timeframe or where, but female, I think.


PAMELA: Can you give me time or where?

ELIAS: España.

PAMELA: Oh, Spanish! A calligrapher, someone who did illuminations.


PAMELA: There’s all this Sumari. Someone very involved with the secret societies, I think very high up, and it was the total focus of my life, the total focus of my focus.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: Can you give me a timeframe for that?

ELIAS: Impression? (Pause) Feel into your impression.

PAMELA: No, I don’t yet. I’ll look into that.

ELIAS: Very well.

PAMELA: And a color specialist, and this is in another dimension.

ELIAS: Ah! Yes.

PAMELA: Also in another dimension where I breathe water but not necessarily as what I would know now as a sea creature.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: Some quick questions about the choosing aspect of myself. I’m finally getting a glimmer of what this is. Is this what I have thought of as quote-unquote my higher self, the part that I used to... The old ways of metaphysical thinking where I would say a part of me knows what’s best, a part of me knows what I’m doing. But I never really thought I would connect with it or that I would understand it. I just always kind of felt I know this part of me is taking care of me. Is that my choosing aspect? Am I starting to become aware of that part of me or identify it in that way? I’ve been aware of it, but now I’m starting to identify it more as being a part of me as opposed to this separate higher self that I thought it was.

ELIAS: Yes. Yes, you are correct.

PAMELA: And some quick questions about physical affectingness, and I have a feeling this is going to go back to our discussion about work and my tension and so on and so forth. But is there anything going on with not my vision but behind my eyes, in my head, that I should be aware of? I’ve kind of cursorily checked it out, and there isn’t anything. But I continue to feel some real strong affectingness that is very unusual for me, and I’d like to know whether you think I should... Is it something I should check into medically, or is it this whole tension thing?

ELIAS: Tension, and also pushing your energy.

PAMELA: This whole attitude toward aging has really floored me. All my life I’ve looked so youthful and young, and then it seems like in the last half a decade it’s just collapsed on me. It’s like oh my god, I’m getting old. This can’t happen! I know part of it is no, no, no, no, this doesn’t happen in other dimensions; I don’t want this to happen here. So it’s like an annoyance with it. (Elias chuckles) But I feel like it’s such an absolute for me, it’s kind of throwing me for a loop. How can I best start to accept and yet transform?

ELIAS: That is once again an action of appreciating what you have created as a physical manifestation. In the lack of appreciation, you force energy in opposition, and as you generate the opposition to what you have created, you reinforce your fear and your dislike.

PAMELA: And it just continues and grows.

ELIAS: Correct. Therefore, if you are generating a different type of energy in appreciating what you are creating, what you have physically manifest, you shall generate a different type of energy and even a different perception, which creates a different reality of your physical projection.

In all of the years prior in which you incorporated the perception and the actual physical manifestation of a youthful appearance, what were you doing? You were naturally relaxing with your appearance and appreciating the youthfulness of it. Now you are opposing your physical appearance, and therefore are generating in conjunction with that opposition.

PAMELA: But it was like a time bomb that went off in me. I wasn’t consciously aware of having these attitudes toward aging, and then it was like blam! turn this age, and all of a sudden, all these physical affectingness things happened, and it’s just been like one after another. Crud! (Elias laughs) I mean, that’s what’s been bizarre about it. I didn’t feel like I sat there and all of a sudden thought okay, now I’m gonna start feeling old. It was just sort of creeping up on me.

ELIAS: Correct. That is the nature of beliefs.

PAMELA: So it’s again just to see a belief and accept them and say that’s what they are, and if I choose to express something else, I may choose to express something else.

ELIAS: Correct. Evaluate the belief and what the influences are.

PAMELA: Did you ask me or are you commenting?

ELIAS: I am expressing to you evaluate the belief and thusly explore the different influences. In that, you may choose which influence is more associated with your preferences.

PAMELA: Thank you for the reminder.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

PAMELA: I have a question about my kitty Vicki, who’s with me now, sitting on my lap. I’m very concerned about her health. It’s been very sudden. Is she making the choice, is she close to making the choice to disengage, or is this a complete reflection of what’s going on with me and the turmoil I have felt about this new line of work?

ELIAS: It is more associated with the latter. In this time framework, that choice of disengagement is not being expressed now. It is more a reflection of your energy, and in this, I am not expressing to you in any manner that you are responsible or at fault. But you create your creatures, and in that creation, you create them specifically to be specific and intimate reflections to you, and they willingly incorporate that action.

PAMELA: But you also said that once created, they then have choice.

ELIAS: This is correct.

PAMELA: You told me when Baby Doll left that what she did and the way she did it was a gift to me, and yet it was also her choice to leave at that time, and I don’t...

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: I would like to know why she wanted to leave at that time, and I would also like to know... You’ve confirmed for me that Vicki has not yet made that choice, but I’m trying to understand. It’s my creation, and while they’re here, they’re willing to reflect and yet then they have the choice to leave when they want to leave.

ELIAS: Correct. Generally speaking, that choice to disengage is in some capacity associated with you and your direction, generally in a supportive manner to you. Regardless of how you may feel in grieving and in loss, the choice is generated to be supportive to you in whatever direction you are engaging, allowing you to be more focused upon yourself and your direction.

PAMELA: I really got that while you were talking about it. I saw something about that; I mean I understand that. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

PAMELA: I’d like to ask some particulars about my friend, Andrea. Her essence name?

ELIAS: Essence name, Elsa, E-L-S-A.

PAMELA: And is she Milumet/Sumari, or the healing family?

ELIAS: Sumari.

PAMELA: Then she’s what I am. She belongs to Milumet and she’s aligned Sumari?


PAMELA: Oh my god! She’s the first person... Nobody else in the whole Elias focus group that I’ve seen is Milumet/Sumari!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Congratulations!

PAMELA: No wonder she and I connect. Is she intermediate?


PAMELA: You told me my color was orchid, and that was before I realized there were two colors, a color for belonging, or for essence, and then for focus. Is that what it is? I’m gonna say orchid is... I don’t know. This is weird to me that I don’t get more information about this when I love color so much. I’m going to say orchid is my essence color.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: When you say orchid, I’m wearing a shirt that has a stripe in it. Is that what you mean by orchid? (Pause) Or darker?

ELIAS: That is correct, what you are wearing.

PAMELA: Then is my focus color what I would call periwinkle?


PAMELA: Why do I resonate with the entire spectrum of color as we know it here, the jewel tones. When I see the colors of the rainbow together, it’s like it just makes me sing.

ELIAS: For you appreciate the vibrational quality and you appreciate the beauty of the presentment of all of these colors.

PAMELA: Is there something creatively that I can develop? I feel like something’s coming my way in terms of working with color in some way that isn’t now done, or at least is not widespread. I couldn’t even give a name to it, but that somehow I’m going to be involved with it and it will be a source of income.

ELIAS: And that, I shall suggest you allow yourself to be open to your communication of imagination. Yes, you are correct. That is a strong potential, and you shall allow yourself to discover that potential in paying attention to your communication of imagination.

PAMELA: Lastly, I want to ask about orientation. I feel either really strongly that I switched orientations around the age of 13, or that almost my whole life I have surrounded myself with other than common, except for my father and possibly my aunt. But I feel that in my childhood, if I was common... I don’t know. I can’t even imagine.

ELIAS: Yes, you have been incorporating the same orientation throughout the entirety of your focus, but you also have allowed yourself an openness to the other orientations, and you have incorporated somewhat of surrounding yourself with other orientations to offer yourself a clearer understanding of the differences of how you create and how you perceive, which has been helpful to you.

PAMELA: Only recently, though. I feel like in the first half of my life, it just totally completely confused me, because I kept trying to do it the way everybody else did. (Elias laughs) And that wasn’t common.

ELIAS: I am understanding.

PAMELA: I kept thinking there was something wrong with me because they do it this way and it works for them, so why doesn’t that work for me?

ELIAS: Correct. In this, you also have paid attention more to the other orientations, and therefore, you generate that comparison, for you do not generate the interest in the individuals that incorporate the same orientation as yourself. Your interest is in those individuals that incorporate different orientations than yourself, but you generate comparisons.

PAMELA: Is my mom soft?


PAMELA: Is my brother intermediate?


PAMELA: My aunt and father are common?


PAMELA: My friend Ampawan I’m going to say intermediate.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: We know Andrea. My niece Mindy, is she soft?


PAMELA: And my grandparents on my mom’s side? (Pause)

ELIAS: Your question?

PAMELA: Oh, I guess I’ll say intermediate to both of them.

ELIAS: Correct.

PAMELA: Jeez! Every single person! Well, that makes sense. We did it! You helped me accomplish. We got through all my questions!

ELIAS: Congratulations!

PAMELA: Congratulations to you. I am so impressed. And I would like some final words and all the encouragement you can send my way.

ELIAS: I shall be offering you tremendous encouragement, my friend, and I shall be continuously offering my energy to you in supportiveness, also. In this, remember the ease.

PAMELA: Remind me. You and I have been connecting lately, haven’t we?


PAMELA: Finally! When the two light bulbs blew, it was you, wasn’t it?

ELIAS: Yes. (Laughs)

PAMELA: I’m starting to notice. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

PAMELA: I love you dearly.

ELIAS: And I express to you, also. I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and I shall be offering you playful energy to remind you to balance.

PAMELA: Thank you.

ELIAS: In great friendship and dearness to you, au revoir.

PAMELA: Thank you Elias. Namaste.

Elias departs after 1 hour, 6 minutes.

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