Tuesday, October 26, 2004 (Phone/Private)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Anonymous

(Elias’ arrival time is 21 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good morning!

ANON: Good morning!

ELIAS: What shall we discuss?

ANON: So many things to discuss! Let’s start with health things. See, before as a little girl, my mom trained me if that I got sick I would try to figure out why I was sick, and then just change everything or make it better. But now it’s like I cannot think that way anymore. I feel like I’m caught in between. These last few weeks my back has been hurting, and I can’t think what could be wrong. Could you help me with that?

ELIAS: And have you evaluated what you are doing?

ANON: See, that’s the question. What am I doing...?

ELIAS: Or what you are not doing? (27-second pause) What are you doing differently in this time framework?

ANON: I am doing a lot of things differently in this time framework.

ELIAS: Such as?

ANON: Like physically? Such as in general, I guess; let’s start with that. I’m trying new things, trying to do things differently.

ELIAS: In what manner?

ANON: I keep thinking that I almost feel like I’m on an edge, that I’m barely holding on to something, like I’m in between two worlds almost, between what I’m used to doing and what I believe now, and I am in this balance between the two. Sometimes I’m in one and sometimes I’m in the other. I’m trying to understand the space of the new way of thinking that I’m doing or being.

ELIAS: Express to me what is what you would term the old manner of thinking and what is the new manner of thinking?

ANON: I guess I would say it would be a belief that things are a result of something before, so all of the beliefs I have about my body are okay. There is something wrong with me because I didn’t do this before, so that everything is a consequence.

ELIAS: And now?

ANON: Now I’m trying to stay in the moment and say what is going on right now and what is happening right now.

ELIAS: But there is still an association with consequence, cause and effect.

ANON: Yes, I guess that’s why I feel like I’m in between. I’m in an in-between state. It’s like they’re both inside me. Sometimes I’m going back and forth; sometimes I’m in one all the time. Sometimes I’m okay and the other times I’m not, so I feel confused most of the time.

ELIAS: First of all, what you are doing or the association that you are generating is in relation to eliminating a belief or changing a belief and supposedly adopting a new one, which is not the situation, which I have expressed many times.

Now; as you recognize that you incorporate the belief of cause and effect and that actions incorporate consequences, remember that you are not eliminating that belief. It is a matter of accepting that you incorporate that belief, that you express that belief, and evaluating what the different influences of that belief are, therefore allowing yourself choices.

Now; in association with generating discomfort or what you term to be illness, as you express this belief that one action generates an outcome or one cause creates an effect, attempting to evaluate what you are doing that you are responding to in this manner is what shall offer you information.

Let me express to you, one element of beliefs that individuals generally are confused with is that the belief is expressed, and therefore, it does influence you to generate certain actions. It influences your perception, which creates an actual reality. Therefore, the manner in which you address to what you are creating is to address to the belief and which influence is being expressed that is creating a particular reality, such as an illness.

This is the reason that I inquire of you recently what have you been doing or what have you not been doing. For as you do incorporate this belief of cause and effect, this is the manner in which you are creating, which is not bad, but it is significant to understand what you are doing to create particular outcomes or what you are NOT doing that is creating particular outcomes.

And what is your evaluation? Not in generalities but specifically — recently, as you have generated this illness, what have you been doing differently, or what have you not been doing?

ANON: I have not been exercising, and I have not been eating appropriately.

ELIAS: Therefore, your evaluation is that incorporating this combination of not consuming appropriately and not engaging exercise has degenerated your physical body functioning to a point in which you now are experiencing discomfort, correct?

ANON: Yes.

ELIAS: Now with that evaluation, what do you do, moving one step further? (Pause)

ANON: I’m blank. I have no idea.

ELIAS: Listen to your body consciousness. Listen to what it is expressing to you. Your body consciousness expresses communications quite clearly and quite obviously. Are you experiencing fatigue?

ANON: Yes.

ELIAS: That is a communication. Are you experiencing an alteration of appetite?

ANON: Yes.

ELIAS: And how is that alteration being expressed? (Pause)

ANON: Well, before I was very strong with wanting to eat chocolate, and I couldn’t stop eating. It is changing now because I have been paying attention to it, but it feels sort of out of whack. Sometimes I’m hungry, sometimes I’m not, sometimes I can’t stop eating, and sometimes I can’t eat anything at all, which is very irregular. It’s been like that most of my life.

ELIAS: Now; this also is significant, although I am inquiring as to your appetite NOW. But what you have expressed is another subject in association with not listening to your physical body consciousness and what it is expressing to you, and that generates this erratic behavior in consumption. But in this present now, do you incorporate an appetite?

ANON: No.

ELIAS: And you are fatigued?

ANON: Yes.

ELIAS: What your body is attempting to express to you is to incorporate slowing your movement, allowing yourself to relax, allowing yourself to rest and altering what you consume in LISTENING to what your body consciousness is expressing to you. It is highly efficient at expressing communication to you in association with what it wants to be consumed to efficiently function. But if you are not paying attention, you continue to experience its communication to you in what you view to be a malfunction.

ANON: I’m sorry; I couldn’t hear the last part at all.

ELIAS: It is continuing to communicate to you that you are not listening by generating what you perceive to be a malfunction.

Now; prior to this creation of illness, what were you doing?

ANON: I was going wild! (Laughs) I’ve always eaten very healthy. I always exercise and take care of my body, and for the last eight months (inaudible).

ELIAS: And what motivated that action? (35-second pause) What has motivated your recent experimentation with different substances?

ANON: Yes, I did some... I never realized it was such a (inaudible). I wanted to sense what’s going on. I wanted to see what would happen if I didn’t follow all the rules regarding what’s right and what’s wrong.

ELIAS: And expressing a rebelliousness.

ANON: Yes.

ELIAS: Now; remember, I have expressed many times to many individuals, substances in themselves are neutral and do not actually possess the ability to generate any type of affectingness of any individual. It is the beliefs of the individual that generate the effects. Generally speaking, most individuals incorporate beliefs concerning different substances that allow them to generate different experiences in association with the consumption of different substances, which you also incorporate these beliefs. In that, you have generated different experiences in the consumption of these different substances, which I am not expressing a judgment of good or bad in association with that choice and that action. That is not the point.

What is the point is to be evaluating what your motivation has been and what you have generated in association with that. For now you have generated a physical affectingness within your physical body consciousness, which is not dangerous, but it is uncomfortable. You are not necessarily appreciating of this manifestation that you have created, and you are questioning what you have created and why you have created it. This is the reason that you incorporate the question to myself, and my response to you is “what you have been doing?” The direction that you have been incorporating has been leading, in a manner of speaking, to this type of outcome. For in association with your beliefs that if you incorporate certain actions they also incorporate consequences, that is your expressed belief, and you create in conjunction with your expressed beliefs.

In this, this is the reason that my first question to you — and my continued question to you — is what have you been doing and what have you not been doing that has ultimately generated this outcome. Which, what you have been doing is generating a rebelliousness and incorporating actions in many different directions that you would not necessarily generally be doing, and those actions that you generally do incorporate in association with what you perceive to be respectfulness to yourself you have discontinued.

Therefore, what has motivated that alteration? (34-second pause) What motivates the rebelliousness? A disquieting within yourself and a discontent within yourself, a realization that you are not expressing your freedom entirely and a frustration in not objectively knowing how to allow yourself to generate that. In that frustration and that discounting of yourself, you generate this rebelliousness in opposition to all that is familiar within you.

But some of those familiar actions and some of those familiar expressions that you have incorporated previously are expressions that you generate in association with gentleness with yourself and what you perceive to be a respectfulness for yourself. In your frustration, you have turned in another direction, and what is actually being expressed is a harshness with yourself and a lack of respectfulness for yourself and your body consciousness. In that harshness, you have incorporated what you in your common vernacular would term to be a time framework of wildness.

But remember, you incorporate an expressed belief of cause and effect and that actions incorporate consequences. Therefore, you are now generating your own consequences for your actions. In a manner of speaking, you are dissatisfied with what you have or have not created — or both, actually. Therefore, in that frustration, what you generate is a type of punishment of yourself. You shall generate an uncomfortableness, and that shall be your chastisement of yourself.

But in that, your body consciousness continues to attempt to communicate to you to be incorporating that gentleness with yourself, and it gets louder and louder and louder. Therefore, you incorporate more and more fatigue and more and more discomfort until the point occurs in which you stop struggling with yourself, and you allow yourself to relax and to listen and to incorporate that gentleness with yourself.

ANON: Thank you. I am starting to see, but I’m still very scattered.

ELIAS: I may express to you, your mother’s instruction to you as a small one to be evaluating what you are doing to recognize what is generating a physical affectingness has been expressed in wisdom. For physical affectingnesses in association with your body consciousness are directly associated with what you are generating inwardly, and that, generally speaking, is expressed in some manner outwardly in some type of imagery.

My suggestion is that you incorporate that gentleness with yourself once again, and allow yourself to slow your movement temporarily. Incorporate relaxing and allowing yourself to rest, rather than forcing your energy continuously.

ANON: I have been trying to do that in the last couple of weeks, and it is very difficult. Is any of this related to the sense of boredom I’ve been feeling? When you mentioned the rebelliousness, it reminded me of that sense of boredom. If I feel bored, I really try to push in a different direction, and I’ve noticed that, too, lately.

ELIAS: Yes, which is also associated with this frustration of not quite knowing objectively yet what direction you choose to incorporate and how to be expressive of yourself in more of your freedom.

ANON: I imagine that all of that is also related to my work at the moment. That seems to be my main sense of not knowing what to do.

ELIAS: Correct. But express to me, in what capacity are you confused?

ANON: It seems like forever I’ve been trying to get away from my work, to change to something different, but I can’t seem to find something that I want to do.

ELIAS: What do you incorporate as likes or dislikes in ANY expression?

ANON: That’s what I’m learning to do, because I don’t know. I feel like all my life I’ve been trying to force myself to like the things I dislike, but I don’t know what I like.

ELIAS: Ah, and this is significant. Perhaps incorporate a time framework now in which you allow yourself to genuinely evaluate what your preferences are. It is not wrong to incorporate your individual likes and dislikes. That is associated with your preferences or your lack of preferences. As I have expressed previously, those are your guidelines for your directions and for how you express yourself and your behavior. I may express to you, it is ludicrous to attempt to force yourself to incorporate a preference for expressions that you do not prefer. That merely forces energy in opposition to yourself, and it certainly does not allow you to express a gentleness with yourself.

ANON: Except that my automatic reaction to expressing a preference is guilt — and I understand all about guilt.

ELIAS: For you are not worthy to express your own preferences.

ANON: (Laughs) No, I guess not.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, for a brief time framework incorporate an exercise of viewing yourself as two individuals. View yourself as you, but also view yourself as another individual. Each time you present yourself with a preference or a dislike, incorporate an action with yourself as though you were engaging another individual, and speak to yourself as you would to another individual were they to be presenting the experience to you. For in the same actions that you generate, were another individual to present those same scenarios to you, you would be encouraging of them rather than expressing to them in a discounting manner which would be intended to invoke guilt. You would not incorporate that action with the other individual.

ANON: No.

ELIAS: Therefore, temporarily incorporate this action of pretending, and generate another you that you may speak to in gentleness and supportiveness as you would to another individual, and thusly perhaps offer yourself encouragement rather than guilt. Expressing your own preferences, your own likes and dislikes, your own opinions is not bad. If it is not challenging another individual, it also incorporates no threat and no competition. It is merely an action of expressing your freedom, and this is the point. (30-second pause)

ANON: That sounds good. (33-second pause) Oh, I had a question before I forget. (Inaudible) We think we’ve shared some focuses. She has a number; I think it was 56.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: That’s pretty cool. Do I know her in her George Sand focus?

ELIAS: Quite briefly.

ANON: What about Georgia O’Keefe?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: I’ve been trying to write down all these attractions we have to the past or the future, and I am writing down the people who have caught my attention. Until this moment, I was still very afraid of all these impressions. Do I have a focus that is named Janet Moreau?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Wow! That’s pretty exciting. Was she a missionary in China?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Is she actually from Scotland originally?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Wow, I can’t believe it. And she knew Eric Little?

ELIAS: Somewhat.

ANON: I didn’t believe I could do it. Do I have a focus from (inaudible)? (Pause)

ELIAS: Repeat.

ANON: Do I have a focus as a Neanderthal?

ELIAS: Yes, several.

ANON: I was watching a movie once and they were showing that. I was so frustrated throughout the whole movie, and actually I didn’t finish. I was so angry because it wasn’t how it was supposed to have been. I thought “how do I know that,” and then, of course, I remembered that moment that it wasn’t that way.

ELIAS: Which your impressions are more accurate than the speculations of your scientists.

ANON: So how many focuses do I have as a Neanderthal?

ELIAS: 18.

ANON: I wanted to ask you about my nieces. Victoria, is she soft?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: And my niece Valerie, is she common?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: My friend Jim, is he common?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Christian, common?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: My brother-in-law, is he common also?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: I may have to start trusting my impressions.

ELIAS: That may be a novelty!

ANON: Yes. Do I have a focus named Vincent?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: More than one?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: I kept getting that name. I’ve been trying to pay attention to everything that happens at least twice. Now I’ve been seeing everywhere this star, a six-sided star kind of thing, or a cross, I’m sorry, a cross. I’ve been seeing it everywhere. Is that somehow an association that I have focuses in Nazi Germany?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: This is cool. Hessler, there’s a German name Hessler. Do I know him?

ELIAS: This individual is known to you. You know of him.

ANON: How do I know the difference between someone who I am and someone who I just know of? I guess I just got my answer, because I remember when I heard of that name, I thought “I know that person.”

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: It wasn’t like “I am that person.”

ELIAS: It may be at times somewhat confusing, but generally, if you are genuinely listening to your impressions, you shall offer yourself accurate information. At times it may be confusing merely if you are automatically moving into an association that you incorporate another individual as another focus of yourself, and merely move in that direction. That may not necessarily be accurate. But if you are genuinely paying attention to your impressions, you shall not always necessarily identify with another individual as another focus, and in that situation, you may evaluate further and assess whether you are known to that individual or admire that individual or may incorporate counterpart action with that individual. There are many different expressions that incorporate connections of other individuals, not merely other focuses.

ANON: Rommel, is he a focus of mine?

ELIAS: No. But that individual is also known to you in a much stronger capacity in serving with that individual militarily.

ANON: I could sense that I had a strong admiration whenever I saw him. It was like I was drawn to him.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: I had an experience where I felt like I was a focus where I was a eunuch in China.

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Leonardo da Vinci, did I work with him?

ELIAS: Briefly. The individual does incorporate an admiration for this individual tremendously and has briefly incorporated studying with this individual.

ANON: I was watching a show, and it was like I knew. It was shocking to me to know before they said what he was or what his family was. I was like no, he did this, and then suddenly they said it.

Do I have focuses in Senegal?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: I was getting that name for a while. When I was two years old, I lived in Peru, in Lima, and I remember one time picking up a piece of pottery and getting an image. I was thinking my own things at the time (inaudible), but I got an impression of a woman making pottery or cooking something. Was I getting an impression of another focus of mine?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Like a native Peruvian or Inca?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Van Gogh and Gauguin, they are two attractions. What would be my impression of that? Is Van Gogh a focus of mine?

ELIAS: No.

ANON: Do I know him in person?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: What about Gauguin?

ELIAS: No.

ANON: Neither one? He’s not a focus of mine, and I don’t know him?

ELIAS: You do incorporate a focus that is known to that individual, yes.

ANON: Interesting. If I understand correctly, the alignment is for the focus, right?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: My (alignment) family is Gramada, correct?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: Do I have a preference of family for my focuses in this dimension?

ELIAS: That would be the family that you are belonging to. The family that you are belonging to is incorporated throughout all of your focuses. Are you inquiring whether you incorporate a preference to one particular family as an alignment?

ANON: Yes. (Pause)

ELIAS: Not necessarily.

ANON: I have a strong sense of a warrior mentality, although I’m not one. Do I have a lot of focuses that are warriors?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: And you said that everything is affecting...?

ELIAS: Yes. That translates in this focus in a different capacity, but as a strength.

ANON: Do I have a Native American warrior?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: One more question, it has to do with Daryl. We share like 56 focuses, so are some of those observing focuses?

ELIAS: Yes, you do incorporate some shared observing focuses.

ANON: Where one of us is directing and one of us is observing?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: My last question – my niece, have I shared a focus with her where she is my mother?

ELIAS: Yes.

ANON: This stuff is mind-blowing!

ELIAS: And it is all you. (Chuckles)

ANON: Thank you so much for your answers.

ELIAS: You are very welcome, my dear friend. I shall be anticipating our next meeting, and I shall be offering you encouragement in the interim time framework.

ANON: I have felt you around, and I want to thank you for that, too.

ELIAS: To you in tremendous affection and fondness, my dear one. Au revoir.

ANON: Bye bye.

Elias departs after 59 minutes.

(1) Originally expressed as “Now; in association with generating discomfort or what you term to be illness, as you express this belief that one action generates an outcome or one cause creates an effect, and you attempt to evaluate what you are doing that you are responding to in this manner is what shall offer you information.”

©2008 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved

---

Copyright 2004 Mary Ennis, All Rights Reserved.