Wednesday, October 13, 2004 (Private/Phone)

Participants: Mary (Michael) and Coen (Delaitre)

(Elias’ arrival time is 10 seconds.)

ELIAS: Good afternoon!

COEN: Hello, Elias; good afternoon! We finally establish objective communication! (Elias laughs)

ELIAS: And what shall we discuss?

COEN: To be quite honest, I’m not that sure of what we will discuss this afternoon. I’ve made four pages of questions, but as I wanted to speak to you a few months earlier, things developed and I think now there are other priorities. So let’s just see where we end.

ELIAS: Very well.

COEN: First of all, I would like to thank you. A couple of months ago, I did my running and I met an old man on a bike. He said hello to me, and immediately I knew it was you!

ELIAS: (Laughs) Quite perceptive!

COEN: And very creative. It was really a wonderful image.

ELIAS: I expressed to you that I would be encouraging. Ha ha ha!

COEN: And the place and the moment was really a beautiful time. It was excellent. (Elias chuckles) Thanks for that.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

COEN: I see a lot of blue screens when I enter other people’s rooms or when I’m other places. It always gives me a nice feeling. I want to thank you for that as well, because some of those blue screens must be you.

A few months ago, I needed a session because I had the feeling that things were running out of control. One of the reasons I wanted a session with you was to get my confidence back. The thing that surprised me was that in the last two months I managed to get my confidence back myself. That was a nice feeling, and I had the impression that one of the reasons I didn’t establish objective communication with you was because I wanted to find it myself.

ELIAS: Correct, and to offer yourself evidence of your own abilities and acknowledge yourself, which also facilitates your allowance of yourself to be appreciating yourself and your abilities.

COEN: True. Also, in the last few weeks, I’ve felt a little overwhelmed in my body and my consciousness; I’ve felt a bit shaky. My impression is that my body is trying to adjust to my expansion of consciousness.

ELIAS: Correct. There is tremendous movement occurring in this time framework and great potential for tremendous widening of awareness and awareness of self. There is a strength of energy which is being generated in association with this wave addressing to truths, which is being experienced by all of you within your reality, and that may be quite powerful and also somewhat unfamiliar energy. But it may be greatly beneficial if you are holding your attention in the now and if you are holding your attention upon you, being aware of your energy and what type of energy you are projecting outwardly. For there is also a tremendous potential for polarization in this time framework, which is occurring with many, many, many individuals. Therefore, it is important to maintain a balance and be aware of what you are doing and what type of energy you are expressing.

COEN: A few months ago, I had some days where I really felt lousy, as if there was a heavy energy leaning on me. Is that connected with it?

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: I had just more of an expression of expansion?

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: A few days ago, I visited what we call a haptonomen; I’m not sure of the English translation. Is that kind of visit beneficial to me?

ELIAS: And what is your assessment, thus far?

COEN: Two things. One of them is when I visit the person and I leave him, I leave the building, I feel much more relaxed. I have the impression that it really helps me. The other thing I notice is that I think I should be able to do it myself.

ELIAS: Both are correct, but do not discount yourself in this time framework in generating an expectation of yourself. For this may be a process that you are engaging to offer yourself more information experientially to allow you to generate this type of action yourself eventually, but not to overwhelm yourself with expectations and forcing your energy with yourself.

COEN: I understand. Would you agree with me that my ability to stay in the now and to focus my energy on myself are increasing?

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: That is what I myself objectively also noticed, that when I feel another energy, I think now I’m projecting the wrong energy, change it and go back to yourself.

ELIAS: You ARE generating much more of an awareness, and you are evidencing to yourself that you do incorporate the ability to manipulate your own energy and to alter your perception dependent on where you focus your attention.

COEN: That’s true. For instance, a year ago we spoke about the party we’re organizing for the foundation, and if I compared that energy with the energy I’m now projecting, it’s a hell of a difference.

ELIAS: Quite.

COEN: Thanks for the confirmation. (Elias chuckles)

In the transcripts, you mentioned that a focus after he disengaged moved to a further experience in another dimension. That also means, in my mind, that before I became this focus or this attention as Coen, I must have had other experiences or lives as Coen instead of Delaitre.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking, yes.

COEN: In a manner of speaking...?

ELIAS: For it is a choice whether the individual attention chooses to be experiencing other dimensions and focusing or manifesting within other dimensions or whether that attention chooses to be focused in nonphysical areas of consciousness.

COEN: Do I stay focused as an attention of Coen, or do I stay focused as Delaitre, or is there no difference in reality?

ELIAS: There is no difference in actuality, for you are all of essence regardless of how you are focusing the attention. But this particular attention that you recognize and you identify now as yourself in this manifestation continues to incorporate its own identity. Therefore, this particular identity that you attach to this manifestation, this attention, does continue prior to this particular manifestation and subsequent to this particular manifestation. It does not become absorbed, so to speak, in some larger entity, for you already are that larger entity,

This is an element of the point of this shift in consciousness in association with your physical reality, for collectively you have all chosen to be widening your awareness to recognize that you ARE essence and that the whole of essence is embodied in your physical manifestation, therefore allowing you to realize much more clearly that you are not a part of and that you are no less than any expression of consciousness.

This is the reason also that this shift in consciousness is transpiring within the course of as many years as it has been in motion, for this is a tremendous undertaking to generate such an alteration within your physical reality. For it is altering some elements of the blueprint of your physical reality, for it is not incorporating as rigid of an expression of separation. It is not eliminating separation, for that is a belief also, but it is thinning that veil of separation to such an extent that allows you a much greater awareness of other aspects of yourself, such as other focuses and other information that may be accessible in association with different areas of consciousness.

COEN: Talking about separation, sometimes I have the feeling as if the walls or objects are vibrating, and my interpretation of this is that it is signal to me of less separation or that separation is not available. Do you agree with me?

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct. This also is an action that is occurring much more frequently with many individuals as they widen their awareness. For what you are observing is that the solidity of your reality is influenced by the belief of separation, and as you express less rigidity and strength in association with that particular belief — not that it is being eliminated, but that it is beginning to be neutralized through acceptance — in that action, what you observe is that the solidity of your reality in objects and manifestations appears less solid, and you actually allow yourself to view that objects are not stationary. They merely appear stationary, but in actuality they are continuously in motion. They are formed by links of consciousness that in conjunction with time generate physical manifestations or objects, but they are moving.

In that movement, as you continue to widen your awareness, you recognize that it is merely perception in conjunction with your belief of separation that generates the appearance of solidity. But in actuality, as I have expressed many times, even a wall that you perceive to be created of brick is in motion, and in thinning those veils of separation, you actually incorporate the ability to penetrate that wall in its movement.

COEN: Is it, at this moment, a theoretical thing or is it really something I can apply this afternoon — based on my beliefs and my development?

ELIAS: In this now, I would express to you that it would be unlikely that you would actually accomplish that action. But I may express to you that you are moving closer as you incorporate these moments in which you recognize that these solid objects are actually moving.

COEN: Also I had the impression that the flexibility we incorporate in our dreams is also, of course, possible within our waking reality.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

COEN: Another thing I noticed is that I have the impression that in this time framework we’re moving extremely rapidly. When I watch TV, there are so many programs dealing with witches or with magic or with mediums or other realities, it’s almost impossible to watch anything else. Also I noticed the development of mobiles from five years ago, and now, at this moment, you can’t live without one. Is it really going that fast at this moment?

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: Are we going even faster in the near future?

ELIAS: Yes, it continues to increase in rapidness. Even your time is increasing.

COEN: The energy problems, when will we be able to develop energy from water, from hydrogen?

ELIAS: That would be a choice of individuals joining collectively and choosing to generate that type of action, but it is a potential.

COEN: One of the things that always surprises me is that we never found a real substitute for oil.

ELIAS: But you are moving in that direction. It is intertwined with the movement of the Shift in association with economy and exchange, which I have expressed in the completion of this shift, that shall be one element of your reality that shall be quite different.

COEN: Did you also express that money will stay a long, long, long time in this reality? (Elias laughs)

A question about the City: I recently bought the computer game “Sims 2,” and I was wondering if the city you mentioned might be a virtual reality city or will it be an objective city?

ELIAS: Both. Presently, it is, in your reality, a virtual reality, but futurely it shall be an actual physical manifestation.

COEN: I had the impression when I played that game and saw it the first time — I was that shocked about the reality level of the game — that I thought within twenty years we will just have a virtual reality, and that will be possible. Compared to dreams, of course, and compared to what you’re telling us that reality and imagination is quite real, this might be an element as well.

ELIAS: Yes, and you are moving in that direction.

COEN: So the holograph deck of Star Trek will be reality?

ELIAS: (Laughs) I may express to you, this is a tremendous potential, and you are moving in that direction within your reality. I may express to you also that there already are some creations that are actual realities that you would view to be comparable to your science fiction. I have expressed previously, your science fiction is more science fact than fiction.

COEN: I read those sessions and it gave me a nice feeling — a lot of potential.

ELIAS: Quite.

COEN: Moving closer to my own essence, one thing I noticed is that in our sessions you never call me by my essence name. Is that because I’m, at this moment, too far away from that connection?

ELIAS: Not necessarily; it is not necessary. Do you address myself continuously as Elias? No, you engage conversation with myself and I with you, and therefore it is not necessary to continuously express your essence name or your identification. YOU are aware of who you are, and I am aware also! (Laughs)

COEN: (Laughs) Okay. I’m still surprised by other people, you call them at different times by their essence name, but I’ll ask for it again in our next session.

ELIAS: Very well!

COEN: Especially after the beautiful image of you as the old man on the bike.

ELIAS: (Laughs) At times I may be incorporating the use of an individual’s essence name merely to snap their attention, for I am aware that their attention is drifting. Therefore, at times it may be beneficial for me to address them with their essence name to sharpen their attention and focus it more fully.

COEN: A wake-up call.

ELIAS: In a manner of speaking. (Laughs)

COEN: Value fulfillment — I tried to think about what I want to fulfill in this focus, but I’m not too sure. My impression isn’t that strong, but I think it’s to initiate new ways of people working together.

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: You agree with me? Is that my main fulfillment in this focus?

ELIAS: That would be the theme of your intent, but I may express to you, you generate value fulfillment in every moment regardless of what you do and regardless of how you perceive what is occurring within your focus. For if you are not generating value fulfillment, you shall not continue within this physical reality.

COEN: I understand the theme of my intent is to initiate new ways of people working together.

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: Do you see anything else or is that all?

ELIAS: That is the general theme, and how you express that in specific manners may be generated in many different manners and directions.

COEN: Did I choose my parents to give me an example of freedom and to be responsible for my own creations? Is that one of the main reasons?

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: I just read a session of Jim/Andrel a few months earlier in a session when people talked about being warriors in Japan in the 900s. I strongly get a feeling that I am connected to those people, that they belong to my group, so to speak.

ELIAS: Yes, you are correct.

COEN: You always talk about people go together in groups. The people that are around me now, is that my group or are there more?

ELIAS: Partially, but there are more. For in this time framework, as you have incorporated such a movement in association with your technology, you have allowed yourselves to be connecting with other individuals that may not necessarily be within physical proximity of yourself but that you have manifest with previously or futurely in groups. Therefore, you are allowing yourselves also a wider awareness of the extension of the groups of individuals that you manifest with in other focuses, not merely those that you physically surround yourself with.

COEN: And the people that I surround myself with, is that a kind of core group?

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: I’d like to check some impressions. My middle brother, my impression of his essence name is Boron.

ELIAS: Congratulations!

COEN: Okay! He belongs to Sumafi?

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: And alignment Vold?

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: How do I manage to get the essence names that easy? I got all my family members correct.

ELIAS: It is merely your allowance of yourself to be listening to your impressions and trusting yourself. It is not difficult to be accessing that type of information; it is merely a matter of how you direct your attention.

COEN: My mother’s essence name, is it Amaria?

ELIAS: Close. Almarie (ALL muh ree).

COEN: Essence family Ilda, alignment Sumari?

ELIAS: Correct.

COEN: My grandfather on my mother’s side, could you give me his essence name?

ELIAS: And you incorporate no impression?

COEN: My impression was Enogma.

ELIAS: Ah, that is a focus name.

COEN: That focus name is the same as my youngest son’s essence name! (Elias chuckles) No, I have no impressions of his essence name at this moment.

ELIAS: Very well. Essence name, Cholin, C-H-O-L-I-N (cho LIN).

COEN: In other sessions you told me he is closely connected to me. Is this focus of his in my direct surroundings?

ELIAS: Has been.

COEN: I don’t get a clear impression, but your remark from a few sessions ago intrigues me. I will think it over.

ELIAS: Very well.

COEN: I have names of a few people and I would like to ask you about my relation to them. The first is Patricia Carson, a singer, and when I put on her CD, I always get a nice feeling.

ELIAS: Counterpart action.

COEN: You also told me that I had a few dodgy focuses, and Gilles de Rais came to mind, the French guy who did a few not so nice things.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Correct.

COEN: I found one! Happy me! (Laughs) I’ll say no more; I’ll just enjoy.

Michelangelo, the painter?

ELIAS: Observing.

COEN: Winston Churchill, the guy from the UK?

ELIAS: Also observing and counterpart.

COEN: Vincent Van Gogh?

ELIAS: You incorporate a focus with that individual.

COEN: As family or as friend?

ELIAS: A friend.

COEN: Reading the other transcripts, there are a lot of people who are connected to Vincent Van Gogh in this forum.

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: Kafka, the writer from Czechoslovakia?

ELIAS: Partial observing and counterpart.

COEN: I had a strange thing happen. The writer John Steinbeck, who I feel connected with, I thought he wrote “The Catcher in the Rye,” a book I read, and I read a lot. Then I found out that “Catcher in the Rye” was not written by Steinbeck but by Salinger. Do you have any idea why the confusion?

ELIAS: Within yourself?

COEN: Yes. I thought John Steinbeck had written “The Catcher in the Rye.” I felt that had an importance.

ELIAS: This is a confusion that you have incorporated in association with another focus which generates a tremendous admiration for the first individual but experienced a tremendous connection to the story of the other individual in similarities of his own experiences.

COEN: So the confusion I felt was the confusion of one of my focuses?

ELIAS: It is a translation of that focus and therefore generated confusion within you.

COEN: Do I have a connection with John Steinbeck?

ELIAS: Counterpart, but also, as I have expressed, you do incorporate another focus that generates a tremendous admiration for that individual in that time framework.

COEN: Which essence did I fragment from? (Pause)

ELIAS: Fragmentation from the essence of Lazour.

COEN: There is the Seth connection. My impression was Patel, but thanks.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

COEN: The essence of my middle brother, which essence is he fragmented from?

ELIAS: Essence, Maktoo (no spelling given).

COEN: We discussed last time that at this moment I have six focuses, including myself, and I have made a list of those focuses that I think live in the present. The first one is a 5-year old boy who lives in New Zealand, and his name is John van Diepenhorst.

ELIAS: Correct.

COEN: The second one is an old lady in Spain. I feel her living in the Pyrenees mountains. She’s 95 years old, and for her name I have Ema, and then I am lost.

ELIAS: That would be what you term to be the surname, and the other name, or that which you identify as the first name, would be Alma.

COEN: The third, a focus living in Tasmania, Australia, 25 years old, and busy with the sea life — sharks and especially the white shark.

ELIAS: Correct.

COEN: That explains my interest in the white shark! A focus in Thailand, a girl 13 years old involved in child prostitution.

ELIAS: Correct.

COEN: The fifth is in Malaysia, merchandise, 45 years old, and his name, if I’m pronouncing it correctly, is Sihad Tonga Qua.

ELIAS: Correct.

COEN: It is quite amazing. The sixth is not that difficult — it’s me! (Elias laughs) Don’t tell me I’m correct; I’ll tell me I’m correct myself.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Very well!

COEN: Another focus I had an impression of was the brother of Herreshoff, the famous sailboat builder in the states.

ELIAS: Observing.

COEN: Beatrice de Planissoles, who was related to the Cathars in the Pyrenees. Is she a focus of mine?

ELIAS: Yes.

COEN: Brilliant. How many famous focuses do I incorporate?

ELIAS: That fluctuates.

COEN: Now?

ELIAS: (Chuckles) In this now, I may express to you 22.

COEN: And I already discovered a few of them! I think I’m now more relaxed in finding them than I was a few months ago. I’m still looking for a painter as a focus. Can you give me a clue where to find one? (Elias laughs) There must be a painter, not as a counterpart or an observing essence, but as a focus.

ELIAS: I am aware. Investigate Finland.

COEN: I had an impression of a man who got a knife in his back living in London in the 18th or 16th centuries. I felt him lying on the ground, and he knew he was dying. I could feel his emotion and confusion, but his acceptance of the situation that he was dying. I feel it was in the dark. Is that a focus of mine?

ELIAS: Yes, sixteenth century.

COEN: Those were my impressions so far. Not too bad, I must say! (Elias laughs) The time framework between my first focus and my last focus, my impression was my first focus was 30,000 years ago.

ELIAS: You are speaking of linear time, not as the initiating focus.

COEN: Yes, linear time.

ELIAS: Very well. Yes, you are correct.

COEN: And the last focus, 3500? (Pause)

ELIAS: Slightly further future.

COEN: Seth spoke about civilizations before this civilization, Lemuria if I’m not wrong, and that a few people stayed behind and started this new civilization. I always have the feeling that I’m part of that group.

ELIAS: That is an other-dimensional focus. Yes, you are correct, you do incorporate focuses in that dimension also, but that is a translation of information from the other-dimensional focus, which has been associated with this reality, but is not actually.

COEN: I create conflict in my expectations and the expectations of my partner in the frequency in which we should engage sexual activity, should make love to each other. I found two explanations for myself that I not create this conflict. The first one is there is still work on the belief that we co-create, that her reality is also my reality, and the second one is that I try to tell myself to stay in the moment and not look in the past or the future how many times we have made love. Do you agree with me?

ELIAS: Yes, and also is associated with expectations in association with certain types of relationships and roles, that this is an action that is expected, rather than generating a free-flow of energy in acceptance in association with both individuals, and a cooperation rather than an expectation, which may also be influenced in your expression of appreciation.

COEN: Can you elaborate on that?

ELIAS: If you are expressing appreciation rather than expectation, you generate a much freer flow of energy, which does not generate threat with the other individual. As they receive your energy, it is responded to much differently.

COEN: That surprises me a bit, because I understand that I have expectations of others, but also that I have quite an open mind in what other people want and how they behave and what their preferences are. Now you’re telling me one of the things I do is create a lot of expectations of others.

ELIAS: In this, you may be receptive to the wants or the expressions of the other individual, but that does not negate your own expectations. This is the reason that it is important for you to be aware of what type of energy you are projecting and whether that energy incorporates an expectation or not. I may express to you, your evidence of the expression of your expectation is expressed in moments in which you generate a frustration or a disappointment.

COEN: Is that also connected with the strange relation I have with one of the employees at the racket center, one of the teachers? Is that also related to the expectations I have?

ELIAS: Partially.

COEN: When I think about expectations, that makes sense. Now all kinds of bells are ringing in my head. I need to think it over and have time to settle down.

ELIAS: (Laughs) Perhaps you may be offering yourself significant information.

COEN: (Laughs) That’s what I’m always afraid of here!

ELIAS: But that is the point, is it not? Would it not to be, you would not chance to be inquiring of myself! (Laughs)

COEN: I understand. What surprised me is that when I turn my attention to myself, it sometimes looks as if there is more of a block between my partner and I in a reaction kind of way: you are not close to me or you’re far away. Do you know what I’m trying to say?

ELIAS: (Gently) Let me express to you, my friend, the expectations are not merely concerning your partner, but yourself also. For you generate expectations of yourself to be expressing and acquiescing to the expressions and wishes of your partner, that in being a good spouse you should be understanding and allowing the expression of your partner. But in actuality, that is a camouflage for acquiescing and for allowing the other individual to express the lead, which limits your expressions. That generates a barrier in relation to your allowance of yourself to be expressing genuine appreciation, for it is not what you want from the other individual, it is what you want to express in freedom and in appreciation with the other individual. But if you are generating the expectations of yourself, of how you should be expressing, you generate that barrier, and in that, you are discounting of yourself and denying yourself, and that creates disappointment and frustration.

It also projects an energy that is received by your partner which is quite contrary to what you intend. You intend to be understanding and allowing, but in denying yourself and generating the expectations of yourself, what you actually project are expectations of your partner also. That creates an energy that is received in threat, and therefore, it is responded to in reflection of non-interaction or not wishing to participate.

COEN: The thing I should do is to do what I want without limiting myself of what the other person will think of it or if there is time enough and all those questions.

ELIAS: And in association with appreciation — appreciation of yourself, appreciation of your partner. That alters the energy that you are projecting, and in that expression of energy, you generate much more of an attraction.

COEN: I’ll have to think it over, what it means in my reality. I have the feeling that I will give myself a lot of examples and experiences in this field, because I feel it is one of the challenges that I would like to face at this moment.

ELIAS: Let me express to you, my friend, how does a flower attract a honeybee?

COEN: Just by being itself.

ELIAS: Correct. Not that the flower expects the honeybee, but that the flower appreciates its own beauty and radiates that, and that becomes attractive to the bee.

COEN: Wonderful image! Thanks, that makes it a lot clearer. I have a few more questions, but a lot of them are related to business. I think we will save them for another time.

ELIAS: Very well.

COEN: The final question: last Sunday, I went to a sailing competition, and sailing gives me an enormous sense of freedom. Is that one of the main reason I go sailing?

ELIAS: Yes, it is a preference, and that is also influenced by many other focuses that you incorporate as a sailor, which you draw that energy to yourself to reinforce and complement your preference in this focus.

COEN: Yes, I understand. Thank you.

ELIAS: You are welcome.

COEN: Now my eldest has entered the room, so I think it’s time to quit. (Both laugh) Thank you very much Elias, you gave me a lot of healthy information.

ELIAS: And I express to you, my dear friend, great encouragement, and I shall be anticipating our next meeting. I shall be continuing to express my energy with you to be reminding you to be playful and encouraging you to be appreciating.

COEN: I will.

ELIAS: Very well, my dear friend, in great affection to you, as always, au revoir.

COEN: Thank you very much, au revoir.

Elias departs after 58 minutes.

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